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[Q] Can't move files from internal SD card to external SD card from within the XOOM

I've searched the forums and can't seem to find an answer to this, but I do know that others have the same issue. For example, when I download a file such as a new kernel zip file, I am unable to move (using Root Explorer or any other file manager) the file from the internal SD card over to the removable external SD card. I always have to connect to my Mac in order to place the file on the external so that I can move forward with flashing, etc. Anyone have a fix for this? I can't believe that such a simple and required function doesn't work. I realize that the external SD card functionality is based on a hack/mod, but it seems like not being able to write to it from within the device makes it somewhat useless in many ways.
EDIT: Nevermind, SOLVED. Found out you have to "copy" and not "move"...works like a charm

In Root Explorer you need to go to the top left and you'll see a button that says Mount R/W make sure it isn't set as Mount R/O. Afterwards make sure you move the files to SDCard/External so you can see it in recovery.
Good you got it to work..

[Q] sdcard0 and sdcard1?

Why do the phone recognize my internal storage as sdcard0? This tends to lead to some problems when locating files in recovery.
Is there a way to make sure extraneous files, such as downloads, stay only on the sd card under sdcard?
Sometimes when placing a file on the sdcard from USB-to-PC connection, I navigated to the root folder using a file explorer, and tap sdcard, only to find it's not there. Instead of I have to home-->storage-->sdcard1.
Can anyone explain what exactly is going on in this case?? Or if anyone found a way to consolidate the folders, how can I do it??
Thank you.

jldr said:
Why do the phone recognize my internal storage as sdcard0? This tends to lead to some problems when locating files in recovery.
Is there a way to make sure extraneous files, such as downloads, stay only on the sd card under sdcard?
Sometimes when placing a file on the sdcard from USB-to-PC connection, I navigated to the root folder using a file explorer, and tap sdcard, only to find it's not there. Instead of I have to home-->storage-->sdcard1.
Can anyone explain what exactly is going on in this case?? Or if anyone found a way to consolidate the folders, how can I do it??
Thank you.
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The storage isn't extended, it's two separate file spaces. Your internal memory is reported as an internal SD card (sdcard0) and your SD Card is reported as an external SD (sdcard1)

jldr said:
Why do the phone recognize my internal storage as sdcard0? This tends to lead to some problems when locating files in recovery.
Is there a way to make sure extraneous files, such as downloads, stay only on the sd card under sdcard?
Sometimes when placing a file on the sdcard from USB-to-PC connection, I navigated to the root folder using a file explorer, and tap sdcard, only to find it's not there. Instead of I have to home-->storage-->sdcard1.
Can anyone explain what exactly is going on in this case?? Or if anyone found a way to consolidate the folders, how can I do it??
Thank you.
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If you download the Motorola USB Device Manager then in my computer your device will be recognised with internal and external storage available, all folders under these will be clearly visable and you shouldn't have any issues transferring data between the two.
Cheers

I have that manager and it works well, but I would like the folder "sdcard" in the home to link me to the sdcard1 and not sdcard0. Right now the "symlink" in root browser points there. Anyway to change that?

Failed to write to sdcard1 after ota kitkat

Has any one else lost the ability to write to their socketed sdcard since the 4.4.2?

thesavo said:
Has any one else lost the ability to write to their socketed sdcard since the 4.4.2?
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Thats a "feature" of kitkat. Can't be changed unless you have root.

Seriously?

Yes, see here for fix(if your rooted):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix

thesavo said:
Seriously?
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It's a security issue. Before KK, the SD card was wide open to any other process to be able to request read/write to any directory and file, regardless of whether or not they created that file or directory.
Now, under KK, a program can create a file or folder in a "protected" area and only that program has the ability to modify the contents in that folder. It cannot modify other folders or files that it didn't create.

Time to move the podcasts. So my older shows that I worked hard to keep to keep the ext sdcard1 as a target, will have to be copied to sdcard0.too bad.thanks @iBolski
No wonder BeyondPod kept 'accidently' putting shows on SDcard0 for the last year. Even though I "pinned" it to SDcard1 in the advanced settings.

Even with the application that patches the /etc/permissions/platform.xml, I have found certain apps still do not work correctly. Dolphin Browser, for example, cannot switch to /storage/sdcard1. It keeps saying it can't find it and I need to ensure I don't have "USB Mode" enabled, which I don't even have as an option when connected to a PC.
I also have init.d installed on my machine and I had startup scripts that mounted various directories from my external to the internal SD card to "fool" the device so that apps that wouldn't save to the external but the internal would save across a mount. Well, that no longer works. For example, Amazon MP3 will not save downloaded music anywhere except to the internal sd card. I had my startup scripts mount an amazonmp3 directory on my external SD card to the internal amazonmp3 directory on the internal memory card. When I proceeded to download music, it didn't show up in the external directory. However, I noticed that the internal sd card's memory did decrease. I then unmounted the directory and saw that the Amazon MP3 app was ignoring the mount under KitKat and directory saved the files into the /storage/sdcard0/amazonmp3 directory, even though it was mounted to the directory on the external SD card. It did work under JB and ICS, but apparently, with KitKat, some apps will still write directly to the native directory on the internal SD card, ignoring the fact that I've mounted a different directory to it.
The stock Moto camera will write to the external SD card if you go and change the setting for it. However, the Google Camera does not give you any option to store your pictures anywhere except on the internal SD card memory. :crying:
Remember, apps can write to the external card, if you don't apply the "patch", but only to what is considered a protected are (the /storage/sdcard1/Android directory structure) and then, they can only write to a directory that the app created. They can read other directories, but they cannot modify them.

iBolski said:
It's a security issue. Before KK, the SD card was wide open to any other process to be able to request read/write to any directory and file, regardless of whether or not they created that file or directory.
Now, under KK, a program can create a file or folder in a "protected" area and only that program has the ability to modify the contents in that folder. It cannot modify other folders or files that it didn't create.
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That's official explanation (bull****) as you described above with non stock camera. Basically KK made external storage almost useless. I found this nice description quite long time ago.
https://plus.google.com/+TodLiebeck/posts/gjnmuaDM8sn

Zeljko1234 said:
That's official explanation (bull****) as you described above with non stock camera. Basically KK made external storage almost useless. I found this nice description quite long time ago.
https://plus.google.com/+TodLiebeck/posts/gjnmuaDM8sn
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I know at this point, Root Explorer still works with it, after setting the correct permissions into the /etc/permissions/platform.xml file. That works for a lot of apps. The only one that I know that is currently broken is Dolphin browser. I cannot navigate to the /storage/sdcard1/ area anymore. It keeps telling me it can't find the file or directrory and that I should make sure the SD card is ready and USB Mass Storage (haven't seen this option since my Droid X2) is not on.
So definitely, Dolphin Browser is doing something differently that even the patch isn't working for it.

Problem is that without root user cannot edit platform.xml and even after that some applications refuse to write to sd card. Another example is OfficeSuite 7 Pro which I bought and now cannot edit file if it's needed. Workaround is to save to internal then overwrite to sd card.
Basically stock Android becoming more and more limited, harder and harder to get root... That's so bad that I wouldn't update to official kk in the case that my phone has locked bootloader.
Read this article http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...use-even-more-issues-for-root-app-developers/

[Q] Unmovable Files

Hi. I try to explain this briefly and informative so you can help me out. I transferred a huge amount of files (video, music, pictures and apks) via zapya from my old xperia m dual to xperia m2 aqua. After moving files I just found out the files do not get automatically in Album, Movies and .... apps and just remains in Zapya and you can view them only there (So noone else faced such problem?!) But the main problem is, I just finded files and moved them with ES File Explorer File Manager, this is what happend >>>
I accidentally moved files to wrong section (storage/emulated/0) which I guess is systemic path. So the phone began to alerting me with love storage space and when I tried to move files to SD card (with same method i moved them to wrong path), It says the phone needs to be rooted for moving files. Now the files can not be deleted, copied, cut or modified as I guess the phone consider them as systemic files and phone internal storage became full.
I just don't want to root this new phone (at least now, or even root and unroot again), so please help me what to do without rooting (I consider root/unroot as my last hope).

What is the version of android you use ?
If I remember correctly in Android 4.4 KitKat without root you can copy, move files as follows:
Internal memory -> external sd card.
External sd card <-> cloud storage.
You can only copy, move in this direction, but not back:
Internal memory -> external sd card.
Cloud storage -> external sd card.
Also you can't rename or delete folders on external sd card.
You can fix this inconvenience only if you're rooted.
You need to add add <group gid="media_rw" /> in file /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml .

Root
I am concluding that only rooting can make it possible, but waiting for more responses maybe something happen! Now looking for a safe half root method.

Try with File Commander that came with phone as preinstalled system app. You can't use ES File Explorer to edit files on external SD card as KK restriction because it's user application, only system apps can do that.
@AleksJ
Sorry man, but you are so wrong, you can edit external SD card content only with system (non-user) apps and that's KK restriction. So I got this File Commander app preinstalled and I had used it until I rooted my phone. Now Solid Explorer is the best...

Go to Settings/Memory (I think). There is an option to move images/video/music files and maybe other content from/to the internal memory and the SD Card. It also has an option to wipe the cache files (not the directory /cache which is another thing).

Read-Only Internal Storage? (Please Help!)

Hey, so i tried copying music to my phone from my computer, and it didn't work, as it said it can't write to the internal storage which is read only. I got the same result when trying to transfer files to my device via bluetooth or airdroid. The thing is, i can view and copy files from my internal storage onto my computer, but not the other way around. Now, apps like my camera say to "insert an sd card" and don't work, as it can't write to my storage.
Has anyone encountered this problem, or know how to solve it? Much appreciated!