Has any one else lost the ability to write to their socketed sdcard since the 4.4.2?
thesavo said:
Has any one else lost the ability to write to their socketed sdcard since the 4.4.2?
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Thats a "feature" of kitkat. Can't be changed unless you have root.
Seriously?
Yes, see here for fix(if your rooted):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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It's a security issue. Before KK, the SD card was wide open to any other process to be able to request read/write to any directory and file, regardless of whether or not they created that file or directory.
Now, under KK, a program can create a file or folder in a "protected" area and only that program has the ability to modify the contents in that folder. It cannot modify other folders or files that it didn't create.
Time to move the podcasts. So my older shows that I worked hard to keep to keep the ext sdcard1 as a target, will have to be copied to sdcard0.too bad.thanks @iBolski
No wonder BeyondPod kept 'accidently' putting shows on SDcard0 for the last year. Even though I "pinned" it to SDcard1 in the advanced settings.
Even with the application that patches the /etc/permissions/platform.xml, I have found certain apps still do not work correctly. Dolphin Browser, for example, cannot switch to /storage/sdcard1. It keeps saying it can't find it and I need to ensure I don't have "USB Mode" enabled, which I don't even have as an option when connected to a PC.
I also have init.d installed on my machine and I had startup scripts that mounted various directories from my external to the internal SD card to "fool" the device so that apps that wouldn't save to the external but the internal would save across a mount. Well, that no longer works. For example, Amazon MP3 will not save downloaded music anywhere except to the internal sd card. I had my startup scripts mount an amazonmp3 directory on my external SD card to the internal amazonmp3 directory on the internal memory card. When I proceeded to download music, it didn't show up in the external directory. However, I noticed that the internal sd card's memory did decrease. I then unmounted the directory and saw that the Amazon MP3 app was ignoring the mount under KitKat and directory saved the files into the /storage/sdcard0/amazonmp3 directory, even though it was mounted to the directory on the external SD card. It did work under JB and ICS, but apparently, with KitKat, some apps will still write directly to the native directory on the internal SD card, ignoring the fact that I've mounted a different directory to it.
The stock Moto camera will write to the external SD card if you go and change the setting for it. However, the Google Camera does not give you any option to store your pictures anywhere except on the internal SD card memory. :crying:
Remember, apps can write to the external card, if you don't apply the "patch", but only to what is considered a protected are (the /storage/sdcard1/Android directory structure) and then, they can only write to a directory that the app created. They can read other directories, but they cannot modify them.
iBolski said:
It's a security issue. Before KK, the SD card was wide open to any other process to be able to request read/write to any directory and file, regardless of whether or not they created that file or directory.
Now, under KK, a program can create a file or folder in a "protected" area and only that program has the ability to modify the contents in that folder. It cannot modify other folders or files that it didn't create.
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That's official explanation (bull****) as you described above with non stock camera. Basically KK made external storage almost useless. I found this nice description quite long time ago.
https://plus.google.com/+TodLiebeck/posts/gjnmuaDM8sn
Zeljko1234 said:
That's official explanation (bull****) as you described above with non stock camera. Basically KK made external storage almost useless. I found this nice description quite long time ago.
https://plus.google.com/+TodLiebeck/posts/gjnmuaDM8sn
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I know at this point, Root Explorer still works with it, after setting the correct permissions into the /etc/permissions/platform.xml file. That works for a lot of apps. The only one that I know that is currently broken is Dolphin browser. I cannot navigate to the /storage/sdcard1/ area anymore. It keeps telling me it can't find the file or directrory and that I should make sure the SD card is ready and USB Mass Storage (haven't seen this option since my Droid X2) is not on.
So definitely, Dolphin Browser is doing something differently that even the patch isn't working for it.
Problem is that without root user cannot edit platform.xml and even after that some applications refuse to write to sd card. Another example is OfficeSuite 7 Pro which I bought and now cannot edit file if it's needed. Workaround is to save to internal then overwrite to sd card.
Basically stock Android becoming more and more limited, harder and harder to get root... That's so bad that I wouldn't update to official kk in the case that my phone has locked bootloader.
Read this article http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...use-even-more-issues-for-root-app-developers/
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I've searched the forums and can't seem to find an answer to this, but I do know that others have the same issue. For example, when I download a file such as a new kernel zip file, I am unable to move (using Root Explorer or any other file manager) the file from the internal SD card over to the removable external SD card. I always have to connect to my Mac in order to place the file on the external so that I can move forward with flashing, etc. Anyone have a fix for this? I can't believe that such a simple and required function doesn't work. I realize that the external SD card functionality is based on a hack/mod, but it seems like not being able to write to it from within the device makes it somewhat useless in many ways.
EDIT: Nevermind, SOLVED. Found out you have to "copy" and not "move"...works like a charm
In Root Explorer you need to go to the top left and you'll see a button that says Mount R/W make sure it isn't set as Mount R/O. Afterwards make sure you move the files to SDCard/External so you can see it in recovery.
Good you got it to work..
Hi, can anyone please help?
I have just purchased the Asus eee pad Transformer and it automatically updated to 3.1. I have put some apps on it through the android market.
I went to put some apps/photos etc onto the removable card to save some internal space but when I went into settings then to applications then to manage applications the option to 'move to sd' was not showing on any of the apps. can anyone tell me why and if possible how to rectify this.... what is the point in having a removable card and cant use it. Any replies would be much appreciated..... thanks Jayne
16GB is not enough space for your apps?
You dont need to move apps to SD card as all internal memory (about 16 or 32GB depending on which version you have) is used for applications.
removable sd can be used for for music, movies and any other 3rd party files..
16gb is more than enough for installing apps... (I think...)
there's no app2sd in honeycomb, this is different from what android 2.x does.
thanks for the replies,
I am not able to put pictures/music etc. on to sd card. how do you do it in case I am missing something
thanks
There are several ways to add to The removable SD card. You can get ES file explorer and transfer from SD Card ( internal mem) to Removable card or if you set up your system right use ES file explorer to transfer from your desktop/laptop to the Removable Memory. If you don't want to do that, just put the removable card in your computer , transfer music and photos to it and return it to the TF. I use a Tonido Plug ( small inexpensive ubuntu server) on my network to store everything, then just download or stream to TF via ES File Explorer.
Thanks for this answer, I was actually also asking myself this question.
I saw that app2sd exists on the android market so I guess it doesn't work on our transformer, right ?
there is also an issue I am facing : I downloaded a free application to measure the speed reading and writting of the new SD card I have installed. Whatever I try, the software always check the SDcard directory (so internal) but never the microsd I have installed.
I tried with another one and there is still the same problem. Is it a honeycomb restriction ?
Working with the microsd card seems very difficult (I am still a newbie that may explains why).
Indeed, most of apps only see your internal SD Card.
I've found something to work around the problem - you just have to edit/modify the vold.fstab file.
You can find it in /system/etc/.
Then replace this line:
dev_mount microsd /Removable/MicroSD auto /devices/platform/sdhci-tegra.2/mmc_host/mmc1
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by this one:
dev_mount microsd /sdcard/_MicroSD auto /devices/platform/sdhci-tegra.2/mmc_host/mmc1
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Reboot your TF01!
Now, your TF101 will mount the MicroSD in a directory from the internal SD Card '/system/sdcard/_MicroSD'. All your apps will see it...
PS: you can edit/modify this file with some apps like Root Explorer.
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I tried to edit this file but came back with read only tag. I tried to change permissions but again came back read only system file. How do I change the read-only tag?
Found how to do it
I found how I could use adb to pull the file, edit in Notepad and then push it back. It worked.
Hi,
Despite its claims, Dropbox will not display my External SD card when I chosoe Export->Save to device.
Yes, I've gone into the Settings and checked "Display Advanced Devices"
I've also made sure my SD card is mounted and writeable. The My Files application is able to move a file from Dropbox to my SD card and the Music player can play music from it too so I know that A)The card is working and B)My device can see and use the card correctly
The problem is inside Dropbox itself but their technical support people are just making me jump through hoops, sending them screenshot after screenshot of other applications saving to the SD card i.e. they think there's something wrong with the device, not their software.
Has anyone else had similar trouble?
Could someone who has managed to get this working take a look at their external SD card contents and see if they have an folder on there for Dropbox anywhere?
Cheers - Brad
By writable, do you mean "The card isn't locked" or "I've rooted and disabled the KitKat external storage security measures"?
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I mean the card isn't locked. I know there are Android security measures that restrict things but DropBox say that they can write to an external SD card, presumably in their own allotted area. No rooting should be necessary.
netizensmith said:
I mean the card isn't locked. I know there are Android security measures that restrict things but DropBox say that they can write to an external SD card, presumably in their own allotted area. No rooting should be necessary.
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That used to be the case in the first few months, yes. However recent updates to Android made that impossible. Quickpic, ES and VLC run into te same issues. I'm on an older firmware version and they work in exactly that manner, but those on a newer update have found that it no longer works.
That's incorrect.
I just downloaded Smart File Manager and used it to copy a document from internal storage to my sd card. I did this 1 minute ago so it definitely works on the latest android OS version for Note Pro 12.2
When you copy you can only copy to a specific location on the SD card:
/storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.smartwho.SmartFileManager/files
Any attempt to copy to any other location on the SD card will fail but the folder above is "owned" by Smart File Manager so it is allowed to copy there. Dropbox would have its own location on the SD card too but on my SD card there is no folder that looks like it's owned by DropBox. I suspect that is why it is failing.
Hi. I try to explain this briefly and informative so you can help me out. I transferred a huge amount of files (video, music, pictures and apks) via zapya from my old xperia m dual to xperia m2 aqua. After moving files I just found out the files do not get automatically in Album, Movies and .... apps and just remains in Zapya and you can view them only there (So noone else faced such problem?!) But the main problem is, I just finded files and moved them with ES File Explorer File Manager, this is what happend >>>
I accidentally moved files to wrong section (storage/emulated/0) which I guess is systemic path. So the phone began to alerting me with love storage space and when I tried to move files to SD card (with same method i moved them to wrong path), It says the phone needs to be rooted for moving files. Now the files can not be deleted, copied, cut or modified as I guess the phone consider them as systemic files and phone internal storage became full.
I just don't want to root this new phone (at least now, or even root and unroot again), so please help me what to do without rooting (I consider root/unroot as my last hope).
What is the version of android you use ?
If I remember correctly in Android 4.4 KitKat without root you can copy, move files as follows:
Internal memory -> external sd card.
External sd card <-> cloud storage.
You can only copy, move in this direction, but not back:
Internal memory -> external sd card.
Cloud storage -> external sd card.
Also you can't rename or delete folders on external sd card.
You can fix this inconvenience only if you're rooted.
You need to add add <group gid="media_rw" /> in file /system/etc/permissions/platform.xml .
Root
I am concluding that only rooting can make it possible, but waiting for more responses maybe something happen! Now looking for a safe half root method.
Try with File Commander that came with phone as preinstalled system app. You can't use ES File Explorer to edit files on external SD card as KK restriction because it's user application, only system apps can do that.
@AleksJ
Sorry man, but you are so wrong, you can edit external SD card content only with system (non-user) apps and that's KK restriction. So I got this File Commander app preinstalled and I had used it until I rooted my phone. Now Solid Explorer is the best...
Go to Settings/Memory (I think). There is an option to move images/video/music files and maybe other content from/to the internal memory and the SD Card. It also has an option to wipe the cache files (not the directory /cache which is another thing).
Hi,
Samsung S8+ exynos, running latest samsung stock image, rooted with magisk 17.3.
SD card set up as regular external storage, *not* adopted storage.
Whenever I try to have something write to SD card I get "Can't write to (volume id of filesystem on card)". I believe its this "security" feature biting me that was introduced some time back in kitkat.
So far I had been using netapp sdfix (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix) to sort this out, but it seems that doesn't work anymore in android 8.
Any ideas? I'm not afraid to ssh into my phone and do stuff at the lowest level.
Cheers
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There are apps that move your apps and the data to external storage. Thats all I know. And you can also set up your camera to save all pictures n videos in external storage by going into settings. Hope that helps. I know it's not the best solution but it helps save up your storage 100%
I know all that, that's not the issue here.
The issue is (for one example) that I can't set the music folder for the humble bundle app to the music folder I'm using on the SD Card (which works just fine in any music app).
I can't use id3fixer to repair mp3 files because it cannot write to the files.
I can't use ghost commander or amaze to create a folder on SD card - it works with the built in "file manager" in android though.
[Lemmy said:
;78046099]Hi,
Samsung S8+ exynos, running latest samsung stock image, rooted with magisk 17.3.
SD card set up as regular external storage, *not* adopted storage.
Whenever I try to have something write to SD card I get "Can't write to (volume id of filesystem on card)". I believe its this "security" feature biting me that was introduced some time back in kitkat.
So far I had been using netapp sdfix (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix) to sort this out, but it seems that doesn't work anymore in android 8.
Any ideas? I'm not afraid to ssh into my phone and do stuff at the lowest level.
Cheers
[L]
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Check magisk repo there's an app in there to change the setting to read/write permissions for SD cards
but with that module active, wouldn't that mean that for example media scan would find every mp3 file twice?
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;78046939]but with that module active, wouldn't that mean that for example media scan would find every mp3 file twice?
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I don't know you would have to try and find out. As far as I am away it basically gives you read/write access to your SD card it doesn't control what is written to it.
Another thing that you could try is in twrp in the mount menu is to mount SD card.
...and then *reboot* into the installed system, right? I'm pretty sure mounting the card RW in twrip is not going to help...
Then use the magisk module to change the sd card permission to r/w
I don't use ghost commander but it does have access to read/write to SD card(according to google description)
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Then use the magisk module to change the sd card permission to r/w
I don't use ghost commander but it does have access to read/write to SD card(according to google description)
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It doesn't, at least not on android 8...
spawnlives said:
Then use the magisk module to change the sd card permission to r/w
I don't use ghost commander but it does have access to read/write to SD card(according to google description)
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Tried the module, it does mount the card writeable, but the media scanner does not touch anything outside /storage, so id3fixer does not know about the media files, and can't fix the tags.
Why does it seem to require higher magic to be able to just copy and use mp3 files from my computer....
[Lemmy said:
;78049321]Tried the module, it does mount the card writeable, but the media scanner does not touch anything outside /storage, so id3fixer does not know about the media files, and can't fix the tags.
Why does it seem to require higher magic to be able to just copy and use mp3 files from my computer....
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Have just tried ghost commander file explorer
Basically in normal use it is not in root mode. You have to enable it in settings under advance - show advance home items. This will bring up root mode and mount menus in the home page menu. Have changed sdcard from r/w to r/o back to r/w with no issues. So I would check you settings to see if it is enabled.