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Very Big thanks to all people who made this possible (I can't mention names cuz they are too many )
The Easy Guide:
1- Check your Hboot version from the Bootloader (by switch on your device while holding volume-dwon button) , if it's 0.98.0000 then you are lucky and go to step #3 otherwise go to step #2.
2- Now you need to downgrade your Hboot, the safest way is by flashing old offical rom that has Hboot version 0.98.0000 (e.g. RUU_Saga_HTC_Europe_1.28.401.1_Radio_20.28b.30.080 5U_38.03.02.11_M_release). Fallow the steps in this thread How to DOWNGRADE Desire S with S-ON, keep in mind you will lose all data when downgrading your rom.
3- Use the AlphaRevX Public Beta 2 tool to S-OFF your device by fallowing the instructions in this guide [AlphaRevX] Public Beta 2 for Desire S.
4- (Optional) Flash recovery via Rom Manager, or use this 4EXTRecovery v2.1 (personally, I prefer the last one ).
If you want ENG HBOOT instead of AlphaRevX Hboot, check this [MISC] ENG HBOOT is here !
Important Note: when you have ENG HBOOT in your device, DO NOT flash any offical rom unless you know what you are doing, cuz your S-OFF Bootloader will be replaced with S-ON version that come with the offical rom..
Nice guide although I believe that the last step step 5 is unnecessary, as I believe that the alpharevx hboot is patched to contain the same functionality as the ENG hboot, at least that's what ieftm posted.
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ben_pyett said:
Nice guide although I believe that the last step step 5 is unnecessary, as I believe that the alpharevx hboot is patched to contain the same functionality as the ENG hboot, at least that's what ieftm posted.
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That's exactly what I thought too
ben_pyett said:
Nice guide although I believe that the last step step 5 is unnecessary, as I believe that the alpharevx hboot is patched to contain the same functionality as the ENG hboot, at least that's what ieftm posted.
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yeah that's right, moreover the alpharevx hboot will not flash bootloader from PG881IMG official rom file
I'll change it now
The eng hboot is NOT modifyed . The REAL deal. i belive alpharevxs is text edited ..no other reasons to change it, as it have the functions.
Thx
Marsdroid
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I have a Dutch VodaFone Desire S with a upgraded HBOOT, is this a problem when downgrading the HBOOT ?
No not problem at all but you'll lose all data when downgrading
Hi everyone, I'm new to the forum, basically I bought my desire s a few weeks ago and managed to root it, then added a Rom. However I believe I need to put back a stock Rom as it needs returning owing to a faulty speaker where I can't hear it ring, the output is getting worse each day. So basically I need to know which Rom and how to do it. I have tried searching but come to a dead end, lots of help for the desire but not my desire s. Many thanks in advance.
I'm sure I saw a thread knocking about in this forum where someone described the process of returning the phone completely back to s-on stock state, but I can't seem to find it myself now either.
Iirc though, restoring back to a stock rom and kernel may be enough to override the hboot and make it s-on and without root. There's something somewhere about flashing a stock hboot I'm sure.
Sorry I can't be more help than that.
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You need to look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
This will over ride your alpharev hboot with an Eng S off hboot flash it via bootloader or Android flasher 1.8
Once you have done this you can flash an official ruu which remove your s-off and root status
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1113820
tnx very useful
craig1965 said:
You need to look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113820
This will over ride your alpharev hboot with an Eng S off hboot flash it via bootloader or Android flasher 1.8
Once you have done this you can flash an official ruu which remove your s-off and root status
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When I try this method, bootloader says bypassed?
Any ideas.
chill...............
Ok this is how I did it I download this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15493125&postcount=1
On my lap top I extracted the zip file
Then put your phone in fastboot making sure it says fastboot usb then run Android flasher 1.8 chose hboot and browse for the .img file you extracted from the zip file earlier if all goes well you will be eng s- off then you can reflash an ruu
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You can also follow this if you find it easier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187231
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I currently have a desires s (S-ON, not-rooted and bootloader unlocked), I am not sure if I should downgrade to hboot 0.98 as S-OFF for this is not available right now and as the title says I want you all to tell me what to do !
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
(kinda new to all this so I don't know if I am being a noob, but I seriously need your reply on this)
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I can tell you what i did:
I unlocked my bootloader at htcdev right away when i got my desire s, then got superuser access to my phone. It was pretty fun, but I couldn't do EVERYTHING Plus, I lost parts of my warranty.
I really wanted s-off to be able to flash all roms available.
After a month or so, i did a downgrade of the hboot, with this instructions.
It worked flawlessly, although it's an hour of work or so if you're new to android. Terminal/ADB looks weird and complicating at first, but hey, you just need to copy the lines off the tutorial, it works perfect if you do as told
My advice: DON'T unlock at HTCdev (gives yo FULL warranty, even if you flash a custom rom), and just simply follow the downgrade instructions. Then you'll have full access, full warranty and no limitations at all, it's absolutely worth the downrade/s-off!
I'm running ICS now and couldn't be happier with my phone!
First of all thank you for your help on this, even I have had the same thought that its better to downgrade my phone and S-OFF it rather than keeping it S-ON.
Btw I came across anouther doubt which I guess its better to ask here instead of creating a new thread every time, : if I have to use an ruu to downgrade ny device, should my current radio (as seen in bootloader) match the ruu's radio ??
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No
Have changed my Rom twice not touched the radio firmware at all.
If it ain't broke don't fix it, also read on xda somewhere radio firmware is a local thing it may work in your area but not mine
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13th Dev said:
I could either keep this hboot and simply unlock the boot loader, root my phone and install a custom recovery to flash roms. But that way I won't be able to S-OFF my device and hence I wouldn't be able to install all custom roms such as virtuous saga which requires S-OFF .
And If I downgrade my device, I am not sure if the kernels,radio, and other things would be that efficient plus I doubt if I would be able to install all roms, like ICS Sense 4 roms
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IMO, there is not much need for you to flash radio.. most of the time you won't need to do so..
and HBoot version can be changed if you are S-Off..
but i have to disagree with your statement that if you don't S-Off you are not able to flash all custom roms.. yes, some may fail to boot up, but mostly they will boot up without problem..
I am currently at the same Hboot as you, HTCDev unlocked and i have tried many roms without problem..
the only thing about having S-On for me is that i will always be dependant on my computer to flash ROM.. other than that, there's no problem generally.. Oh, maybe there is one thing, HTC may know that your phone has already been unlocked since you are using their unlocker.. but there are some ways to relock it and restore the "RELOCKED" in bootloader to "LOCKED"..
I am a newbie, and that's why i unlocked it with HTCDev, but if i were to do it all over again, i would have spend few more days to learn how to downgrade the Hboot and S-Off instead.. you can always flash newer Hboot later anyway..
So my advice, don't worry so much about the radio, or the Hboot version (you can tweak that later) at the moment, then downgrade the Hboot and S-Off it..
IMO it's much better than using HTC unlocker..
thank you guys for all your help and advice, finally after spending a couple of days,I successfully downgraded hboot 2.00.0002 to .98 one.
once again, thankyou all
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I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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13th Dev said:
@doghous exactly !, I'm thinking of changing my hboot to the new re_engineered 2.00.0002 by vampire36, or if someone could suggest a better one.......
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I have successfully S-Off my DS from HTC Unlock using the method by Skanob, it's pretty straight forward and noob-proof.. (not that you need that now ) and can be used to revert back to stock, S-On, Locked (not Re-locked) if you ever need to repair..
As for Hboot, i have upgraded the Hboot to Eng Hboot 7.00.1002 (the one you mentioned above) so that would be my recommendation, too!
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I assume that you're revolutionary S-OFF by now, you can now easily upgrade on the latest re-engineered hboot
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Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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ENG v7.xx.xxxx
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This one isn't an eng hboot. Better use 2.00.2002
anchemis said:
Does anyone know what the differences between the different versions of ENG Hboot?
ENG v0.98.2000 vs. ENG v2.00.xxxx vs. ENG v7.xx.xxxx
Any benefits of using v2.00 or v7.xx over the v0.98?
Thx.
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A good question actually, even I have the same doubt and would really appreciate if someone could post the answer !
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This is what I've gathered from forum trawling...
v0.98.xxxx: the original hboot for 1.x roms
Has the partitions: /system, /cache, /data (all ext3 or ext4)
Fastboot support, supports Revolutionary S-OFF
ENG v0.98.xxxx: engineering version of above
v2.00.2002: the new hboot for 2.x roms (Sense 3.0 etc.)
Has the partitions: /system, /system/lib, /cache, /data (all ext4)
NOT supported by Revolutionary
-> apparently, some Sense 3.0+ roms need this new /system/lib partition to work (stability issues), but I'm not sure which ones though...
->Note Revolutionary is NOT supported, so to S-OFF you need to downgrade using TacoRoot, ZergRush/Misc_versions, XTC clip or some other method.
ENG v2.00.xxxx: engineering version of above
RVL v6.98.1000: hboot that comes after you S-OFF with revolutionary
It is of a higher version number so breaks overflashing functionality, so you CANNOT revert to RUU (for warranty returns etc.)
-> Note: This can be overflashed with v6.98.2000 (OverARX), which then allows you to overflash a stock or engineered hboot.
v7.00.1002[\B]: modified 2.00.2000
NOT ENG BOOTLOADER
But are there any real life benefits of one over the other?
for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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I got really frustrated with being S-ON and found the HBOOT downgrade instructions dubious so I found someone in my area with an XTC CLIP device and S-Offed the bastard , don't care much about warranty at this point however.
@ste_vald well done there !, having an s-offed device is surely much better
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for example I have the Rev v6.98.1000 hboot, so what you mean is that I could have problems while flashing roms (occasionally), and hence I should change my hboot to the engineered one ?
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No, you should be fine installing most of the ROM's (unless specified otherwise in the OP of the ROM).
However, ENG Hboot is recommended so that if required later you can easily flash new radio's / Hboot.
Thank you, but can't I flash radios on this rev hboot
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No, i believe you can't! You will require an ENG Hboot...
Ok here it goes I will try to explain my situation. Sorry for my lack of information, and other nonsense.
I have unlocked bootloaded using HTC dev my bootloader shows a pink ***UNLOCKED*** at the top. I have loaded cwm recovery using aahk. All my attempts at trying to gain s-off have failed. I dont care about setting CID to 111111 (however many 1's it is) Is there a way to gain S-OFF with out using the aahk. I can't seem to flash any ROMS using cwm because of s-on?
When trying to attempt the downgrade via aahk in linux I am getting invalid image or some error in HBOOT, I just need to figure out how to gain s-off and all my problem I think will be solved. My problem, I have root, s-on, cwm recovery. but when flashing zips in CWM I get stuck on HTC screen. It's like its failing to write to some partitions because of s-on? I can make and restore backups just fine, except that one time when I flashed a boot.img with fastboot. (was getting desperate) so I restored and flashed the boot.img from my nandroid. All is well again.
Running Software:
Android v 2.3.3
HTC Sense 2.1
Baseband 12.56.60.25U_26.10.04.03_M
Kernal 2.6.35.10-gd2564fb
Build 2.47.502.7
HBOOT info:
*** UNLOCKED *** (Via HTC DEV )
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-0.85.0024
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.10.04.03_M
Please any help or other information will be very helpful, in the mean time I will search and read up on everything. But all I seem to find is outdated information, and aahk. I would prefer to do everything manually, not matter how hard or how long it takes. I feel better doing everything myself, and I will know what went wrong and where when doing it this way. Please if there is a way to manually S-OFF, HELPS! :angel:
P.S. I have root if that helps, gained root using another tool I think it was htcsupertoolv3, but I have tried another tool as well, HTC_QuickRoot_1.1.13_Release.
Another question, Is it the radio flashing that gains S-OFF? is there a way to radio flash using fastboot with S-ON? I can flash stuff with fastboot. I Imagine I can flash with Hboot as well using a gold card, but for some reason I'm getting invalid image errors in Hboot when using aahk.
I just need some help in general lol. Don't be shy ppl I hit the thanks button alot. Thanks in advance!
You need to flash the insecure boot img and relock the bootloader before trying to run aahk... Do you have good instructions for that process?
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RuggedHunter said:
You need to flash the insecure boot img and relock the bootloader before trying to run aahk... Do you have good instructions for that process?
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Wow, so all I need is the boot.img ( I can flash with fastboot correct?) Then relock bootloader, I don't exactly have good instructions, but I'm sure I can find! Thank you My head was hurting, now to start my search!
p.s. If you already got a link by all means post away!
I pm'd you step by step instructions for unlocking inspire, build 3.02.502.52...assuming that's what you are dealing with... If you're part way through the process already, or have already rooted via another method though, I have know idea if it'll work or what potential consequences there could be....so use it at your own risk.
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I pm'd you step by step instructions for unlocking inspire, build 3.02.502.52...assuming that's what you are dealing with... If you're part way through the process already, or have already rooted via another method though, I have know idea if it'll work or what potential consequences there could be....so use it at your own risk.
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Worked Like A Champ! Thank You, That boot.img is actually the one I flashed before when I thought I had screwed everything up. I just didnt relock then rerun aahk. I feel so dumb now. Thank goodness you saved my day! Much LOVE AND THANKS!
Glad I could actually help...
Now go flash Viper 1.2.3 in the Desire HD Dev threads and enjoy your *new* phone!
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Totally went with Jellytime R30 xD, Perhaps I'll try Viper
This was my first HTC phone, and I must say after getting through all the confusion in reading old outdated stuff. It's one of my favs!
Again Thanks for the info about flashing the insecure boot.img and relocking bootloader in prep for aahk, Hopefully ppl like me who tend to overlook stuff will see this, and help them too.
Until my next phone adventure! Peace OUT XDA!
I'll just put this link here for anyone else who stumbles across this thread. It's a detailed list of instructions for new att Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30828287
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Hi guys
How can I Downgrade my hboot from 2.15 to 1.14
I've got ota jb.
now i'm using viper 1.2.1 custom rom
and have: unlocked,rooted,supercid,,cwm,
I want to install ruu but first i must s-0ff......i tried to s-off but due to my hboot version s-off method didnt work
by the way I tried facepalm s-off method
I'm not sure you can now. I've seen a few people mention in the forums that if you didn't S off before doing the OTA, you'll have to wait for a new method as the exploit was patched. I could be wrong, check the S off thread.
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Thank you npiper05
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You should be able to s off with 2.15 bootloader. I have done it no problems. Go through the s off process step by step, and for some reason it can matter what sort of ROM you have before going s off. So for example, try flashing the JB version of Viper, and then do S-Off (or one of the custom sense stock roms, ie latest t mobile, etc).