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[Q] Buying an Inspire when it's back in stock..

So I'll be coming from a S***sung Craptivate after it killed its own memory, resulting in not having enough room to load a back-up or a fresh ROM after a full wipe. (Phone is actually in two pieces, divided straight across the center) I had the phone flashed with a rooted deodexed and lagfixed ROM (Paragon RC6) and undervolted and stock clock speed (1ghz). I also had a different launcher, text based icons, widgetlocker, basically nothing was "stock" about it, but that was out of need, to fix the shutdown problem, the crappy GPS, the crappy sound, the crappy speed, the crappy lag.. etc etc..
I will be buying a Desire when it is back in stock locally, hopefully with tomorrow's shipment. But I have a few questions...
How much different is everything about modding this phone? I've read the guides and the stickies, and liking the Ingersol ROM (with just a battery notification mod, would like it to be white and turn red below 15% instead of the crazy colors it does.)
I only have 3 questions really... but one or more may become more. Please bare with me.
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!

You need to downgrade to get unknown sources back. HTC sense is basically a theme that designed for there phone if I'm not mistaking. The gingerbread themes here are very smooth and good. You will encounter bugs but that will always be fix from the developers
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GTIVRon said:
1. It looks like to root I'd have to DOWNGRADE.. what does this downgrade affect, or is an up-to-date version flashed after the root?
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It only enables the exploit to get S-OFF (think recovery 2e from the Captivate, vs 3e which required signed update.zip's). Once done, you don't have to worry about it again. There are plenty of stock based ROM's like TPC or dilligaf for you to choose from if you so desire.
2. Can anybody tell me what HTC Sense is all about? Is it the launcher? It seems like a combination of apps already out there but from HTC (Flip to silence for example). What do I lose by going with a non-sense ROM? Also I take it using Desire based ROMs don't use Sense? But why would people want to use a ROM based off a different phone altogether?
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Sense is more than the launcher, it is a complete rework of the Android framework, like TouchWiz, but nowhere near as craptacular. It is actually useful. Any HTC sourced ROM will originally have Sense in it, but some HTC ROM's that say "no-sense" have a good chunk of that removed and are more like AOSP Android, but not quite all the way. Then there are other ROM's like CyanogenMod, which are based on actual Google AOSP code and have NO HTC software in them. It really is your choice which to use. I tend to flip between them. My personal favorites are CM7 and RCMixHD 5.9.4. I would flash them both to see what your preference is.
3. Gingerbread ROMs (CM7 and the like) were buggier than all hell on the Captivate. Sure it looked good (but that's theming) and was supposed to be fast, but all over the Craptivate develpment forums was posts about widgets/apps not working, not refreshing, or force closing constantly with 2.3.3. A lot of the phones functionality was lost too, like the ability to take pictures, or use it for social networking (Facebook not working..). How do the 2.3.3 ROMs take to the Inspire?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advanced!
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They work perfectly, with only the minorest of troubles that tend to be app specific, like the Gmail word wrap issue(which is not even a big deal at all). I haven't used a Froyo ROM in weeks.
And finally, welcome from another former Craptivate user! You will be MUCH happier with this phone.

Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!

GTIVRon said:
Thanks!
In terms of stability, "snappiness" (at 1ghz clock speed), and resource consumption/management, is there a noticeable difference between Sense based, and AOSP based ROMs?
I'm also looking for decent battery life. I understand that screen on time and brightness, along with reception are the biggest consumers, but do one of the above based ROMs seem to do a better job of managing power consumption?
I am pretty weary of flashing a GB ROM just because of the numerous compatibility issues that I witnessed on the craptivate forum..
On the RCmix ROM, does it come overclocked by default? It says to use SetCPU to adjust it, so I'm assuming it runs at 1.0 ghz right off the flash? That ROM along with the theme with the white notification bar icons seems to be what I'll be flashing first. Thanks for the helpful information thus far!
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The only thing about sense that really eats battery is the constant data usage of the HTC sense account, if you don't set up an account, your battery life should be rather good. As far as the gb roms they are all working very well, and you will find a small bug here and there, but all the major roms are very good daily drivers.
Most of the roms here have numorous tweaks for stability and snappiness, and you would probably be pleased with any of the major ones. I would say there is more difference between stock sense and tweaked sense than tweaked sense and no sense as far as performance goes. I ran stock for all of a few hours when I got this phone, and have been on a few roms with and without sense, and all of them have been very snappy and smooth.
Any of the major roms that support clock speed adjustments will use setcpu to adjust it, you can run at basically any speed setcpu lets you(within reason, and check the rom post for exceptions and recomendations) I currently run at a maximum of 1.5ghz on miui and my battery life is just as good as it was running 1.2ghz on android revolution.
And last but not least, don't be afraid of gingerbread here, most major bugs have been worked out and 90% of the problems posted about are due to the installer, not the rom.
Welcome aboard!
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Just an add on note:
Gingerbread sense ROMs do not have overclocking right now. But really they are so butter smooth especially when compared to a captivate. RCMix5.9.3 has no compatibility issues I have found.
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Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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XAviierG said:
Is there any gingerbread non sense Rom ?
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MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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id10terrordfw said:
MIUI and CM7 pop to mind. Those are AOSP sourced.
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Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.

XAviierG said:
Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yes they are. 2.3.3.
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XAviierG said:
Those are gingerbread? I thought they werent.
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Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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pside15 said:
Yep they are GB. There is also Ultimate Droid, which I am using now. This is the best ROM I have used so far, but all of them have been rock solid as far as performance goes. I don't think you will find a bad ROM on here. You will recognize some of the devs from the captivate forums.
As for my battery life. I have been unplugged for just over 15hrs and I am down to 21%. That is with 2 push email accounts, 3 hours streaming rhapsody, 2 hours mp3 music, 30 mins of calls, and about 1 hour of browsing/gaming. It also helps that I am on wifi for 90% of the day.
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Have you tried Phoenix
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Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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mattmiller said:
Xaviier my man u may post,but a lot of times your information is short with not much Info.lmao buddy cm7 is pure gingerbread and miui. And htc sense is they user interface...meaning its the over lay on top of android. Without the ui, it would be pure vanillia.sense pretty much makes the experience of using the layout of android a lot more customizable with exclusive sense Widgets,sync options,even that beautiful clock. Kinda like how ur cappy had the touchwiz interface,just a lot better.
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Haha yeah I do post a bit. IM always on my phone and its just everything going on and I try to make It simple. Once again thanks for putting that all out
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XAviierG said:
Have you tried Phoenix
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Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.

pside15 said:
Not yet but I plan to. I used Adam's ROMs on my Captivate and they were top notch.
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yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...

It all depends what theme goes with you.
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GTIVRon said:
Are there any benefits of going with the GB version of RCmix versus the Froyo version? Basically I don't feel comfortable flashing an OS not designed for the device so I'm leaning towards the Froyo based version of that ROM.
Thanks agian for all the help. Really looking forward to this phone. Using a S***sung Mythic for the time being, I can't even type on this phone...
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I've gotten better performance out of the GB ROMs I have used. I believe that ROM is based off the leaked GB for the Desire HD which is the same thing as the Inspire, so you shouldn't have any worries about it not being designed for this phone.

XAviierG said:
yeah its good. IM currently using the ultimate droid
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Yea, the UD ROM is really good. I've been on it for the past week or so and it is running like a champ. Making it really hard to switch to something else.

Best Rom for the charge?

Hello, I am coming from a fascinate to the droid charge. I have a few themes I will be porting and was wondering what the best rom for me to port to is. Been awhile since I wasnt sure which rom to use. Thanks in advance. GoS
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I use gummy charged 1.5
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Lurking around, the first ROM I'm flashing will be danalo1979's Humble Froyo ROM
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GummyCHARGED 1.5 is the current king-o-the-hill, IMHO.
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Themes? GummyCharged. General use/battery performance? Humble.
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I am totally diggin the Humble froyo ROM

Might as well concentrate your efforts on EP1F GB roms.
Glad to see you here from the Fascinate forums.
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Personal opinion, humble 2.1 (ep1f) and really happy with battery life! Netflix, skype, etc...
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I previously used Gummycharged 1.8.5(used it from June 28-July 15) and just recently switched to Humble 1.35 and believe me when I say it's a HUGE difference! Humble is absolutely incredible, the battery life is phenomenal and the transitions are much better then the non apparent ones on GC. Another plus for Humble is it receives updates almost daily and updating is very simple if you are already on a previous version of Humble(just install .zip from SD card in CWM).
So, best ROM? Well, I've only tried GC and Humble but seriously, Humble is probably the best lol.

give altered beast a try. i know it isn't really being updated anymore but its incredibly stable so updating isn't really an issue. i used gummy for a few days and it would randomly reboot at least once a day so i dropped it for stock debloated EP1F which is what i am currently on and i LOVE IT.

I've tried every ROM and build of Froyo and GB to date. At the end of the day I keep going back to Eclipse. Has better signal strength, no reboot issues the theme/look is done fully threwout the ROM, and battery life is awesome on it.

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I've tried every ROM and build of Froyo and GB to date. At the end of the day I keep going back to Eclipse. Has better signal strength, no reboot issues the theme/look is done fully threwout the ROM, and battery life is awesome on it.
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Yeah Nitro's EF roms were pretty stable. As far as signal goes, im not sure why you would get different signal strengths. You Radio shouldnt be changing from one rom to another, unless these are odin pkgd roms that include different radios. I can see im gonna have to do alot more research on this device. Oh well, how do you like thr droid Charge in general?
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Froyo ROMS - Humble VS GumnyCharged

Hey guys I'm proud to say j just got a Droid charge. I'm loving it. But I'm wondering which froyo rom is the better one, humble, or gummycharged. On this I mean based on the performance, battery life, and ui. Please help me out here guys! Thanks in advance
Sincerely,
The new proud owner of a Droid charge: D

Humble for battery life. Gummy for features. Try both.
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Grats on your new Charge! I can guarantee you'll be satisfied :]
To put it short, Humble has better battery life, great animations(like moving from page to page), great speed with no hints of lag(pretty much the same as GC in this department), UI is exactly the same(which is a stock GB look, the only difference is Humble has a better battery indicator from the start), it doesn't randomly reboot like GC did for me(and plenty of other people) and it's updated MUCH more then GC is.
Humble clearly wins this fight, I had GC for a few weeks and I think Humble suits me much more.

blarrick said:
Humble has ... great animations(like moving from page to page).
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I found Humble's animations extremely annoying, FWIW, and since personal preferences win in the end you'd probably be best off trying both and just going with the one you like.
I'd also definitely suggest you try Eclipse, which is what I settled on myself. It's a fantastic ROM all-around (which is what I expected from Nitro after his great work on the Fascinate). And it has a very nice custom theme to boot.

Any battery life advantage humble has is due to imnuts kernel being packaged in...if you flash that kernel with gc you would get virtually identical batt life I'm sure
99% percent of battery life differences are always going to be kernel related...the rest of framework changes or tweaks that claim to do that are generally placebo at best

I have a somewhat related question. Does the black themed Gtalk in GC's rom make a difference in battery life? I really like it but I would like to try Humble's rom.
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I have a somewhat related question. Does the black themed Gtalk in GC's rom make a difference in battery life? I really like it but I would like to try Humble's rom.
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Im not 100% sure but I doubt it matters all that much. Try it out for yourself and see if you like it. After all thats why we have choices right? Everyone likes something a bit different

I have not used GC, But I see no point as I love Humble. It is fantastic.

also doesnt humble use a significant amount of frameworks/apks from gc?

Yeah when i'm back I'll flash humble and see how it goes. I only ask about the black themed Gtalk because i use Gtalk a lot. But I'll let you guys know
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nitsuj17 said:
also doesnt humble use a significant amount of frameworks/apks from gc?
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Pretty much it is imnuts' debloated rom with some GC frameworks/apks.

My observation so far after trying both on both froyo and gingerbread
For Froyo = I enjoyed Humble the best
For Gingerbread = I enjoyed Gummy the best
For now I am sticking with Gingerbread. Everything just feels faster.

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Pretty much it is imnuts' debloated rom with some GC frameworks/apks.
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eh...so it uses the good stuff from gc

So does gummy charged beat both?
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Roms & Ports

What's the difference between a rom and a port?

Roms/custom roms are built for your specific phone
Ports are roms built for another phone but are made usable for your phone-the rom is tweaked a little to work with a different phone.
Example: theres a rom for an htc inspire thats really popular, a dev may ask permission to port it he will then tweak the files to work with our phone allowing us to flash the rom on ours.
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mg2195 said:
Roms/custom roms are built for your specific phone
Ports are roms built for another phone but are made usable for your phone-the rom is tweaked a little to work with a different phone.
Example: theres a rom for an htc inspire thats really popular, a dev may ask permission to port it he will then tweak the files to work with our phone allowing us to flash the rom on ours.
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Oohh, got it. Thaankks
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Oohh, got it. Thaankks
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There are many ports in the superthread. They are all possible from the i9000 Captivate phone.
Linuxbozo made the hellraiser kernel for us to make it possible.
The known bug on that kernel is the first call sound issue when you first boot. Just toggle the speaker once.
Native Infuse ROM are Zeus, Numas, Caty, Bionix, Victory and... Vagabond.

qkster said:
There are many ports in the superthread. They are all possible from the i9000 Captivate phone.
Linuxbozo made the hellraiser kernel for us to make it possible.
The known bug on that kernel is the first call sound issue when you first boot. Just toggle the speaker once.
Native Infuse ROM are Zeus, Numas, Caty, Bionix, Victory and... Vagabond.
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In your opinion, which one is the best?
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That's very hard to say. They all have some characteristics that sets them apart. There are some features in some ROMs that are not in others.
You kinda have to look thru the op's and determine which is for you.
You really can't go wrong. Once you have a good installation, and it is stable, for most users, just walk away.
The flash addicts will try something else, looking for another fix.
For example, the Vegabond I put together, is debloated. I have maximize battery life short of undervolting, but that is not likely with a stock kernel. HDMI will work w/ stock.
dman and bigfau made great roms.
Gtg's Infused -he a master dev.
nop's a master but we dont see 'im much
The ports have their own merits. I have not tried CM7 or MIUI.

I used CM7 for quite a while and really liked it, but I now need Bluetooth, so I have switched to Zeus. I really like CM7 with cyanbread, so I am trying to reproduce the look, might have to try theming. Zeus seems to be the hot infuse rom, from my experience, seems like almost everyone is running it.

What Are Some Other 'Mods' I Can Do?

Hey guys, I'm looking for some other modifications I can do to my phone to make it maybe even faster and such, rather than flashing roms or new kernels. I'm using LiquidSmooth RC5 and IK 1.4, of course its pretty fast and conservative now, but I'm just looking for something else fun I can do:fingers-crossed:

STVERDI said:
Hey guys, I'm looking for some other modifications I can do to my phone to make it maybe even faster and such, rather than flashing roms or new kernels. I'm using LiquidSmooth RC5 and IK 1.4, of course its pretty fast and conservative now, but I'm just looking for something else fun I can do:fingers-crossed:
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Ummm as far as changing it goes, you can play with various theme's using the Theme Chooser and get the theme's from the market. Try out a different launcher (i use apex and its blazing fast) use icon packs with a custom launcher. You could download rom toolbox pro and mess with different kernel values, oom settings, stuff like that.

What kernel is "ik"?
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Chuckleb0ne said:
What kernel is "ik"?
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It's LeanKernel. Can be found over in Rootzwiki. Highly recommend it!
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Have you tried different governers/schedulers? You could also try to undervolt for better battery life. They're just minor tweaks, but lots of combinations and possibilities.