Hi Everybody !
you all know how strange it might be some requests form your boss but this is the most strange one !
My Boss has a system that work on WM 6.5 only and doesn't work on WM 7 and he requested that I should Provide him with 40 New WM 6.5 devices !
you know that they are not available currently So I figured out that I should buy new WM 7 Devices and Flash it Back to WM 6.5 !
I think theoretically this is possible but have anyone tried it ?!!!
I want to Try it on HTC 7 pro Device , Could anyone tell me what the steps I need to do that ?
any other suggested Devices ? I only want it to be New ,with QWERTY keypad and I can install WM 6.5 on it !
Thank you all in Advance.
Sorry, but you can't go back to something you never had!
WM is very, very, very, very different to WP. In fact they share just about nothing.
There is currently no way of putting WM6.5 on a WM7 device, which you'd have known if you'd spent roughly 70 seconds doing a search of the forum.
Unless it's something very specific, there's probably a way to do whatever needs doing on WP7, but unfortunately if your boss is insistent on non-standard software WP7 isn't going to work for you I'm afraid, the best thing you can do is try and find a bunch of WM6.5 devices.
andrewkeith5 said:
Sorry, but you can't go back to something you never had!
WM is very, very, very, very different to WP. In fact they share just about nothing.
There is currently no way of putting WM6.5 on a WM7 device, which you'd have known if you'd spent roughly 70 seconds doing a search of the forum.
Unless it's something very specific, there's probably a way to do whatever needs doing on WP7, but unfortunately if your boss is insistent on non-standard software WP7 isn't going to work for you I'm afraid, the best thing you can do is try and find a bunch of WM6.5 devices.
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I think I will try to gather some WM 6.5 Devices
Thank you for your support.
A lot of the enterprise (read: work related) features that were standard in WM6.x were left out of WP7. I only discovered that after setting up Exchange Server 2010 with my WM6.5 phone and was not able to duplicate the same tasks on WP7.
Longhair said:
A lot of the enterprise (read: work related) features that were standard in WM6.x were left out of WP7. I only discovered that after setting up Exchange Server 2010 with my WM6.5 phone and was not able to duplicate the same tasks on WP7.
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That is the Problem my Friend !
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Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
WM6.0...
The new look and a lot faster device...
Is there any feature that won't be available with WM6, that did work fine in WM5?
Thanks,
vma
Video call isn't working yet.
Rolud said:
The new look and a lot faster device...
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The way I see it, WM6 may or may not work for you and may or may not do it for you. Try it. You can always go back to WM5. Most people don't.....
Well .... the simple answer is that I did a lot of searching and reading, and finally tried it out for myself.
I asked this very question a while ago right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1130569&postcount=88
And came to the follwowing conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1155497&postcount=89
In the conclusion, the thing about the Bluetooth Stack / Voice Command - it was actually Voice Command that was the problem and this issue was fixed in Jrwightmcps' 2.02.00 WWE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297256
Crossbow ONLY!
Tell you the truth... i see the new WM6 is better eye-catching GUI not to mention the enhancement in the functionality and other usability such as email related functions. I know that MS wont just upgrade for no obvious reason nor for desktop OS compatibility.
Yet i reckon i wont -never- go back to magento! Crossbow ONLY!
@nvatvani:
Indeed your posts where the only ones I read, that contained some usefull info about the subject.
No offense to all the other members of course!
I was simply wondering about what to do when my MDA Pro arrives: replace the German firmware with a WWE WM5 one or go straight ahead to WM6 without even looking at WM5.
Also, I had some problems with my Blue Angel, when I tried WM5 on it: it may have been a coincidence, but one day after the upgrade the screen went mad and totally messed up. Only 1 Hardreset in about 100 tries would bring it back to normal for some period of time and even reflashing it with WM5 or 2003SE would not make it work normal again. The screen would get messed up suddenly for no particular reason. At the end I had to send it in for repair, which was actually a good thing, as I complained about the loose stylo and bad working hardkeys, all within warranty. I got a new key-pcb, backside and they reflashed the device with 2003SE. I posted this issue in the BA forum, but got no usefull hint. This means I am a little scared of upgrading to unofficial releases.
Other than that, I have no problems with flashing, as I do that on my other hobby (satellite receivers) frequently, including JTAG-operations for repairing bricked devices. The same applies to games consoles. (Note: I do not sell or benefit commercially from that activity and my goal is not to get illegal software or TV - not that you guy's get the wrong idea about me).
Anyway, thanks for your replies!
Cheers,
vma
What Windows Mobile 5.0 AKU 2.0 has and Windows Mobile 6 (the cooked ones, having tried them all) doesn't have, according to my experiences:
1. Videocalling - at least not a proper one
2. Bluetooth Dial Up Networking (the DUN profile)
3. Wireless Modem (yet some WM6 ROM's have it, although without shortcut in the start menu)
4. Cyberon Voice Dial by default (some WM6 ROM's have it by default, others will need a 500kB CAB to activate it)
The reason why I went back to "good old" WM5 is mainly the reliability. Ok, the OS may be a bit slower here and there, but it has all the functionality (e.g. videocalls and Bluetooth DUN), and NEVER hangs. It just always works and that's what I desperately need right now.
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The things Windows Mobile 6 has for me that 5.0 hasn't which I miss the most:
1. High resolution browsing in the normal Internet Explorer (I don't want to use alternatives)
2. HTML email support
3. The impressive speed of the OS
Applications like WM6's Windows Live and the superb Remote Desktop Client are also available for WM5, so I don't need to miss those, otherwise I sure would, and then I might have sticked with WM6.
The new sounds and GUI are great, but I don't really miss them, since that's not a true functional thing.
Having WM5 up and running again, without freezes and memory leaking and with full HTC Universal functionality, is enough for me to be happy with it and to stick with it. If there ever will be a ROM that actually ADDS Windows Mobile 6 on top of all of this (without a single registry tweak or CAB fix needed), then it's the time for me to upgrade again.
If such a ROM will ever see the daylight, since it won't be officially available for the Universal, I don't know. I think the HTC X7500 (Athena) will be there sooner (April 2007 over here), and that one will have a official WM6 upgrade for sure. That'll be my next one, so until then: WM5 for my Universal!
So far for my opinion.
why do I use WM6
vma said:
Hi,
While I am waiting for my MDA Pro to arrive, I have been reading a lot in the Universal section (have a BA myself).
May I ask for some valid reasons why someone would want to use homebrewed WM6 releases instead of official/customized WM5?
I do understand the fun it is to try out new things, but is it really worth it? I did not find many posts that would clear this question.
Thanks,
vma
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To be honest, I used them all and later delteted them after 5 2 hours. They leak a lot, ram is at minimum and useless third party applications, and a lot fo thing sodn't really work or missing (I just want a vanill aone without 3rd party applications).
Except for one rom, Darkforce, it is fast and furious, and so far I have using it for two days; battery usage is good, and no leaks. However, no video calling, and no way to set com ports for bluetooth devices. any1 has this problem?
However, common to all ROMS, no video calling, old calculator, speed dial messed up (some work and some don't), wireless connection bubble missing (yes you can install a cab but I don't want to do that).
<Mind you, contrary to other reports, I never had any freezes with any rom.
The thing that attracts me is HTML in email, High resolution mode in explorer, better remote desktop connectivity.
So I thhink I am sticking with DarkForce ROM, so far so good.
Thx
Hello, I was wondering if there was a Linux-based OS I could install on my phone (like Android, except that I hear that Android doesn't support a lot of phones yet). I am quite disappointed with the interface Windows Mobile 6 gives me and it isn't very touch friendly, and doesn't provide simple (and quick) ways to access things.
I am mainly looking for one with a much more usable interface and a decent set of applications (that either comes with it or is available with it).
Any further information on this would be appreciated.
Edit: any general information on any hacks/programs I can install to improve the general UI of the whole phone would also be appreciated. I've also heard about Windows Mobile 7 - when will it come out, and will it be a free upgrade?
I reckon WM 7 will be released in 2010, so that'll take a while.
WM 6.5 seems to be more finger friendly (the bigger start menu, etc. NO personal experience with it different from seeing today-screen and start menu on a flashed hermes), but just running M2D/TF3D on a WM 6 device already improves it by a lot.
Also, which OS you can install is limited to your device, it might be useful to mention which one you have.
Ok, My phone is a Dopod 383 Pro. It has many names sometimes it's called a HTC something, an I-Mate something and so on, but I call it a Dopod 383 Pro.
How do I get WM 6.5 on it?
What about M2D or TF3D, what are they?
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Ok, My phone is a Dopod 383 Pro. It has many names sometimes it's called a HTC something, an I-Mate something and so on, but I call it a Dopod 383 Pro.
How do I get WM 6.5 on it?
What about M2D or TF3D, what are they?
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You can get WM 6.5 (BETA) on it by flashing your ROM. I'm not experienced with this, so for more information about flashing you should check out the stickied posts.
M2D (Manila 2D or TouchFLO2D) and TF3D (TouchFlo3D) are today-screen plugins by HTC, which give a bar with tabs at the bottom of your homescreen. Here's a youtube video to give you an idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjMAUprcFqc&feature=related
The difference between M2D and TF2D is the name, and the difference between those and TF3D is that TF3D has some more fancy animations and such, but requires more of your devices CPU power making it a bit slower.
I believe you have to flash your ROM for this aswell, with a ROM that has 1 of them built in, but I'm not entirely sure.
One thing - Before flashing, Read all information about it you can find. If you fail, things can turn nasty.
Hope that helps
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Hello, I was wondering if there was a Linux-based OS I could install on my phone (like Android, except that I hear that Android doesn't support a lot of phones yet). I am quite disappointed with the interface Windows Mobile 6 gives me and it isn't very touch friendly, and doesn't provide simple (and quick) ways to access things.
I am mainly looking for one with a much more usable interface and a decent set of applications (that either comes with it or is available with it).
Any further information on this would be appreciated.
Edit: any general information on any hacks/programs I can install to improve the general UI of the whole phone would also be appreciated. I've also heard about Windows Mobile 7 - when will it come out, and will it be a free upgrade?
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Yes you can install 6.1 or even 6.5 and maybe linux, just do a search on your correspondent subsection here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
For example, if you enter on Universal section you can see linux for Uni, and there are also for other devices
Good luck,
Rather than looking for a new OS, why not change how it looks via WAD2, SPB Shell etc?
As the title says...
Which one do you prefer? Why?
Cheers...
6.1 because is more stable, uses less resources, does not include the SUPER HORRIBLE honeycomb.
Maybe later when 6.5 is more mature....
Or better wait to WM7
Just my 2 cents
I like WM 6.5 because it's the latest & greatest so far from MS. I'll move up to WM 7 when available. I do not like flashing backwards (downgrading)!
I've tried couple of 6.5 ROMs on my BA and Kaiser. I'm not too impressed. One 6.5 ROM was quite quick. However, after using it for a week, I still prefer WM6.1 with the HTC Home today screen.
The windows 6.5 widgets look great. I feel that windows is trying to copy the finger scrolling found on the I-Phone. The fact is, the I-Phone is not nearly as fast to find contact with etc. I can find things a lot faster using HTC Home with WM6.1. I don't even like WM6.1 with Touch Flo or whatever it's called.
I'd like to hear other user comments.
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6.1 because is more stable, uses less resources, does not include the SUPER HORRIBLE honeycomb.
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Did you mean the new Programs interface?
I saw some videos, and I don't like it so much... Any chance to replace it with anything else?
Been using WM 6.5 (miri's WM6.5 rom) for my Touch HD for a couple of months now. The latest builds are really fast and stable and I will never go back to WM6.1.
What about program compatibily?
In WM 6.1 (latest versions) there are some problem running TCPMP or other (old) apps....
Is it the same on WM 6.5?
And... Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
I used versions 11 and 13 of 6.5 but didn't work on my opal, freqvent crashes and slow. Then I installed version 14 of 6.1, so far it is working well.
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Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
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Anyone?
WM 6.5 is DEFINETELY better, there are lots of improvements and still some to come. I recently wrote a few emails with Loke Uei and I also participated in a discussion with the WinMo team on Facebook.
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
@orb3000: What you´re talking about ?!?!? The current version of 6.5 isn´t even an official one yet...so you can´t really compare. And on my TouchPro it is quite fast, responsive and bug-free. You better get a new device...
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Did you mean the new Programs interface?
I saw some videos, and I don't like it so much... Any chance to replace it with anything else?
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Yes.
I think it can be replaced
m.schmidler said:
WM 6.5 is DEFINETELY better, there are lots of improvements and still some to come. I recently wrote a few emails with Loke Uei and I also participated in a discussion with the WinMo team on Facebook.
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
@orb3000: What you´re talking about ?!?!? The current version of 6.5 isn´t even an official one yet...so you can´t really compare. And on my TouchPro it is quite fast, responsive and bug-free. You better get a new device...
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What¿
As said is just my opinion, I know it´s not official yet, but anyway honeycomb for me is horrible, so I won´t use it till final is out and a nice customization appears, I comprare it because is the question on this thread.
Get a new device? I´m on it believe me, but til now not convinced 100% about where to go... I think I´ll wait for 2010 HTC models with snapdragon and for that time hopefuly some better 6.5 will be out there, or even wm7
My Universal is much better than your Touch Pro!
m.schmidler said:
The new startmenu is maybe not everyones taste, but the new todayscreen is well done (espeically when doing some modding with the help of Xda-Devs ^^), MyPhone, Marketplace will be great and the overall fingerfriendlyness and speed has improved.
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I found a way to replace Start Menu with iLaunch or MortButton...
A lot better!
Anyway.. Does anyone here know if I can use a tab similar to M2D MEssages Tab?
Cheers...
6.5 is fine by now... xda-devs have stabled it in many ROMS and with the addition of many many mods it looks amazing and has great functionality. The thing is, that you need to differentiate WM6.5 from the Titanium interface.. Titanium is wonderful. WM6.5 is somewhere only a small small upgrade of by microsoft to 6.1. some menu changes.. some bar changes... things are mostly graphical and still do not match to the new behavior of rhodium manila and its additions (such as the start menu and pop up menus)
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The thing is, that you need to differentiate WM6.5 from the Titanium interface..
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yes, for sure...
The only thing I don't like on WM 6.5 is the Start Menu...
But I found out a way to change it with iLaunch...
Do you know any other program similar to iLaunch (free and maybe better!)?
Wm6.1 is better
WM6.5 is not a significant update. i feel only the looks and graphics has been updated no new revolutionary feature.
WM6.1 with touchflo2d/3d is fine...
flaviopac said:
yes, for sure...
The only thing I don't like on WM 6.5 is the Start Menu...
But I found out a way to change it with iLaunch...
Do you know any other program similar to iLaunch (free and maybe better!)?
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Maybe this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471861 can help you?
flaviopac said:
Anyone?
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Yes! sbp diary.
flaviopac said:
Is it possible to have something similar to "M2D Messages Tab" to see our SMSes directly on our Today?
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mirchichamu said:
Yes! sbp diary.
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I guess I can't have anything similar in Tytanium WM 6.5 home screen, right?
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I guess I can't have anything similar in Tytanium WM 6.5 home screen, right?
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I don't think so. You have to go to e,g sbp pocket plus and the install sbp diary to see your sms on todays screen.
there are many many Titanium mods under development right now.. in the dev&hack section.. go check them out and see if it is either existant or possible to create such a thing.
uys help me out here im stuck between a Touch Pro or Magic I dont know im really tempted with the Magic but I have zero experience with Android, With winmo its like I know it straight out the box as i have just got rid of my TyTn II and flashed hundreds of different roms, i know roms are flashable on Android but is that as easy as it is on winmo? Help me out. It has to either be the touch pro or Magic no others cant afford anything better ????
Well Thank you in advance. Please Help me sort this out guys.....
Matter of prefernce and convenience really, suggest you try both and decide...both have their pro's and cons...not necessarily affecting everyone...
WM - lack of growth - been stuck with 6.5 and 6.5.x and will probably be there for another decade - till microsoft decides to give out Wm7, software compatibility and availability is good and convneient to install, and play around and reconfigure. most important for me - outlook integration...and Tomtom - cannot live without them
Android - only reason why i dont move over is the lack of GPS software and outlook integration - yea I know - there are many workarounds - but then I am not looking for them - i want a seamless integration like activesync - when that comes - I move. GPS I can overlook but am waiting for voice support on GMaps for UK - then will consider.
i suggest you pick up the phone, use it for a day/two - if you dont like - return and pick up Touchpro2 - I have been using TP2 and HD2 for ages now and dont feel the need to move on - unless something substantial comes my way - not even iphone is appealing - sorry - I dont like being tied up with chains. I like to let my phone 'evolve'
Happy hunting...
As stated above, is matter of preferences.
From my point of view I see WM as a solid business oriented OS with thousands of great apps (found here of course). and with the upcoming WP7 WM will expand even more.
Android I see it more like very young fun/multimedia OS.
So it will depend on what you want from a device
Let us know what you finally got
I really like my Touch Pro and will be getting an HD2 soon. I would say that is really depends on what you want in your phone. The big difference IMHO is that the Marketplace for Android is about 100x better…good luck.
Cool Thanks
Well you said try both so time to buy Android then =D If i dont like it then ill have to wait until i can get a new one NO MONEY =D im buying from a guy on here I hope =D depending on if my Kaiser actually gets paid for =/ well thansk guys, and i agree the iPhone is a fail if someone came up to me and said here have this for free id say fine butI wouldnt pay for one tbh I hate Apple all toghether the Macs always crash (That is definately not off subject in anyway =D) Well thanks for your help guys oh one more thing anyone know how easy it is to flash roms on Android I know its possible, is it the same as winmo?
devdarshan said:
Matter of prefernce and convenience really, suggest you try both and decide...both have their pro's and cons...not necessarily affecting everyone...
WM - lack of growth - been stuck with 6.5 and 6.5.x and will probably be there for another decade - till microsoft decides to give out Wm7, software compatibility and availability is good and convneient to install, and play around and reconfigure. most important for me - outlook integration...and Tomtom - cannot live without them
Android - only reason why i dont move over is the lack of GPS software and outlook integration - yea I know - there are many workarounds - but then I am not looking for them - i want a seamless integration like activesync - when that comes - I move. GPS I can overlook but am waiting for voice support on GMaps for UK - then will consider.
i suggest you pick up the phone, use it for a day/two - if you dont like - return and pick up Touchpro2 - I have been using TP2 and HD2 for ages now and dont feel the need to move on - unless something substantial comes my way - not even iphone is appealing - sorry - I dont like being tied up with chains. I like to let my phone 'evolve'
Happy hunting...
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I don't know that many GPS software. But on my WinMo I had Sygic Mobile Maps. Which is cross platform. Works on WinMo, Android & Symbian. I just copied everything directly over from my WinMo SD to my Android SD. 'Acquired' an APK file. And it worked perfectly and just as good as on my WinMo.
Actually, even better. On my WinMo starting it up could easily take 30 seconds. On my Android it's done in less than 5 seconds.
Wm all the way but i think Wm will not be as popular as the years go don't think Microsoft has the heart for it
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I don't know that many GPS software. But on my WinMo I had Sygic Mobile Maps. Which is cross platform. Works on WinMo, Android & Symbian. I just copied everything directly over from my WinMo SD to my Android SD. 'Acquired' an APK file. And it worked perfectly and just as good as on my WinMo.
Actually, even better. On my WinMo starting it up could easily take 30 seconds. On my Android it's done in less than 5 seconds.
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Yes, Sygic is one of the GPS navigation software that runs fine on Android (tested on my HTC Desire).
In addition, there are the free Google Maps with voice navigation for selected countries (Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, USA and UK).
Add to that:
* Navigon for Android
* nDrive for Android
* iGO for Android
* Copilot for Android
Is this enough for you?
Android and Windows Mobile which do you like better?
Magic is capacitive touch,but resolution only has 480*320.
Pro's resolution is 640*480.Pro display effect is better than magic.The same price£¬Acer A1 and i8000 are great too.
Android or Windows Mobile
Both of them are very good, it depends what you want from a device...if you are in Uk I would go for Htc Hero with 3Uk ...3G signal 24/7 the device is very nice, powerful and fast , fantastic media experience better then Desire and Magic. If you are a business person go for the HTC HD2 or the Touch Pro 2. They do the job. Android still my last choice anyway.. personally speaking........but you know?! the choice is yours.
Here something will help you to know members opinions on both OS´s
Search always before creating new threads.
Hey Guys,
1) sorry if this has come up before, search-fu is weak and nothign relevant seems to come up with the "Similar threads" thing.
2) My provider has all but forced me off Windows Mobile, which is fine, since with sideloading being such a hard task on WM7, and that I would have to pay alot to get a WM7 handset and go up monthly fees too, i'm not too fussed.
So i've taken the plunge and gone for an Android phone, trouble is I have a few apps on my old windows mobile device I would love to run on Android... number 1 priority being TomTom Navigator, which yes, I could repay for, but I don't see why I should have to.
So, is there any software in the works that will let me run Windows Mobile based apps on an Android phone?
many thanks
Sorry for bringing an old topic back into the daylight, but I have the same thought. I definately need some apps of WM running on Android when I'll buy my new phone, so this kind of emulator would be a major reason to switch from my outdated Touch Pro. Couldn't something like Haret be created, just to run Windows Mobile, not Android?
There is no, for now
thanks for clearing that out, that's a pitty. But how about the future? Is it at least theorically possible to create something to have this kind of dual boot? Would Android community and developers be interesting in this?
Yeah I wish that was possible, but no.