Both USB 3.0 both 2.5" both 3 year warranty
I want extra storage but don't know which one to get ?
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Go with the 500GB drive. The ports on the Transformer are USB 2.0, so you won't see any speed benefit from having a SSD connected.
However, if you want something that you don't have to plug into a USB port, the SD card slot will support SDXC cards. You can add an additional 64GB or 128GB SDXC card for around the same price as a comparable SSD.
So there would be no benefit to the SSD?
Plus 500GB does sounds nice
Its a go flex they any good ?
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There are.
The whole "no moving parts" thing is a really good benefit.
I take my tf+dock to work everyday, i dont turn it off. I would be forced to turn it of if it had a standard drive in there.
And are you going to have 500gb of data?
Close to it I have allot of music movies and then there's the data for my university papers etc
I may not fill up 500 but I know I will probably fill up 320 so its wether I condense things down and get the SSD benefits or deal with the battery drain inherent with the HDD and the possible failure of the HDD later on
Also the HDD i'm looking at is a sea gate go flex 2.5" portable would this be the best brand or can someone recommend anything better HDD wise?
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An SSD's performance lies in being able to read multiple files at the sames time at high speeds.
Personally i feel SSD's real speed is only put to use as an internal disk on your laptop/desktop to boot/operate faster.
For an external multimedia storage drive I recommend going with a 500gb 7200 rpm drive.
Obviously you can disconnect it after you are done using it. Power consumption difference will be around 0.5-2W average for SSD and 0.7-2.5W for an external drive.
But to save battery and money go with the 500gb drive, briefly connect it and transfer data you wish to access onto your internal memory and use it
You will actually get the best battery life possible by storing your files to a SDXC card (0.06W to 0.3W), but of course like the SSD you're limited by meager storage space compared to a regular hard drive.
All good points I think I will go for the 500 just hope it doesn't screw up also do any of the portable hard drives have spin down or are they constantly spun up ?
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I might be late but if you haven't bought yet, I'd vote for a both.
Buy a smaller SSD/SDXC/SDHC with a reasonable amount of space for files you will carry around all the times.
Get a HDD for storing really large files like movies which you'd need once in a while.
When not powered up, HDDs can take a lot of shock with no damage . Get the 500gb.
i would also go with the 500gb
Ha ha Nibras good to see you however I probably can't afford both
I think the 500GB is the right choice now for a on off switch between the port and cable
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If you can afford a 64gb SSD disk and external chassis, you can probably afford an external 2.5" 500gb disk and a 32gb SD-card.
You should get the SSD and not the HDD. Lower power consumption, no moving parts, all around solid performing. I have a OCZ Vertex 3 120gb SSD and you couldn't pay me to use a HDD for my external enclosure. Swapping between my desktop, laptop and TF is easy squeezy. No heat generated because of no moving parts. SSD is definitely your best bet. If your still in doubt, there are a ton of reviews on the Vertex 3 all over the internet and that it outperforms better than any other drive on the market today.
Cheers...
I love the idea of ssd but hate the price for a decent size and I will fill up most of the five hundred gigabit maybe in future a small ssd inside the dock but too start with price wise and what people are saying hdd is the winner
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Ha ha Nibras good to see you however I probably can't afford both
I think the 500GB is the right choice now for a on off switch between the port and cable
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I wasn't suggesting 64GB SSD and 500GB HDD. Like the below quote suggests, I was suggesting a somewhat smaller HDD and SDD. A 500GB or so HDD and a 32GB or so SSD.
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If you can afford a 64gb SSD disk and external chassis, you can probably afford an external 2.5" 500gb disk and a 32gb SD-card.
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I love the idea of ssd but hate the price for a decent size and I will fill up most of the five hundred gigabit maybe in future a small ssd inside the dock but too start with price wise and what people are saying hdd is the winner
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That's true. I hate how expensive they are.
If Internet is cheap where you live, you can move the large files to cloud as well. Or, store then in a network drive at home.
I think you answered your own question if you have enough files to fill up a 500GB drive that you can actually put to practical use most of the time. You'd just be disapointed having something smaller no matter how fast or trendy if you had to spend lot of time moving stuff around all the time.
I'm with an earlier poster that thinks a SSD is better used as a boot drive for a device to get everything up and running fast and to put your page file on for quicker memory management access also.
Thankyou to everyone who helped me with this im now the proud owner of a transformer and a seagate 500gb 2.5" hdd and hdmi cable and 16gb class 10 sd card all for under 1000nzd yay
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Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
well there is no usb 3.0 support so those are out unless you get a backwards compatible one. And you also have to check the power consumption i think it hase to be bellow 15volts but im not sure
As far as I know all USB 3.0 drives are backward compatible.
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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What. There are 4 kinds of USB (not counting on the go, wireless and eventually others) : USB 1.0, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
Hi-Speed USB means just USB 2.0, Super Speed is USB 3.0 and the older ones are plain and simply USB.
The theorical top speeds are: 1.5mbps, 12mbps, 480mbps and finally 4000mbps
High speed was briefly and not standardized with USB 1.1 so some device makers had that nonsense on their hubs.
Maybe you misunderstood? Some drives don't like some hubs, but that's a power requirement... If the drive needs x volts and the hub can't offer them because it's already sharing the power with other devices and has no wall plug to get extra power, the drive will just spin up and down without ever starting. 3.5" drives always need their own power adapter, so those always work, 2.5" ones usually draw the power from the USB and as such might be a little hit and miss with hubs, however the Transformer powers them up quite well.
Western Digital makes awesome, reliable, fast and quiet drives, I do have an USB 2.0 My Passport... And several others in various devices
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Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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Thanks everyone. So far It looks like this one is a pretty good choice. It has good reviews and if its confirmed working on the Transformer I might go ahead and grab it.
Hope it'll serve you well.
I just remembered that I had to re-format it to NTFS before the Transformer would recognize it. Just thought I'd let you know.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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...but extremely dependable, very effective and lower power consuming than any of those Buffalo drives. I have a Buffalo NAS drive and they're good for that but as for using one for a portable drive I would not. If you're going to use a regular HDD I would at least go with a Seagate or Western Digital drive as they tend to be better drives and are far quieter than any other brand on the market today. Yeah it may be a little more expensive but it's worth it. At least it was for me that is.
i have a 350g western digital that ive had forever.
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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Only one of the cards is micro; the other is full-sized. No switching necessary.
Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
assuming you have the keyboard dock too, not only for the USB port but for the extra battery capacity too.
but my WD 750gb works just fine!
I'd suggest MXPlayer 'cause the stock apps suck at decoding divx and other random container formats.
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Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
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Cool thanks, just ordered a Toshiba Stor.e Alu 1TB (ebay special buy) which is bus powered, should both be here on the 2nd so will plug it into the dock to check.
I am heading down to Spain as I have an apartment there then going to see where the mood takes me, I have 3 months off work (well I say off work, taking the Infinity with an RDP program and my iPhone so I can tether the data) that way I can still work from where ever I am!
The infinity + dock seems the perfect device for me, can carry it easily, brilliant battery life and the full qwerty keyboard.
I plugged a 500GB bus powered USB drive into the dock USB port and it works great!
My 2TB Western Digital MyPassport works just fine. I did format it to get rid of the silly software, though. Don't really notice any powerdrain at all.
I've somewhat accomplished this before with a 2-usb hard drive. The main usb port for transferring I plugged into the infinity, and I plugged the port for power into a portable external battery. It was recognized as another SD card on my infinity. It worked flawlessly when transferring 800MB+ files.
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Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
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Yup. It works. Mine is WD 1TB, connected via USB of the dock.
I've tried plugging in a standard usb drive (8gb thumb drive) in the usb port before but I can't browse to it in the stock file browser,"external storage"just shows as empty. Do you use a special app for that?
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I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Not only is an external a great solution, and works perfectly with the dock. It also has a really nice transfer rate. I was getting over 20mb/ps transferring from my 128gb flash drive to the micro sd. I have yet to spring for a 128 sdxc for the dock, but it's on my list.
So far I tried:
- External usb 2.0 disks
- Wireless mouse
- Linksys usb to ethernet
- Usb sticks
The dock's usb port seems to accept anything: even ethernet that allows me to even use my Infinity in the basement of my house (only wired connections there)
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Thanks for all the input folks, shall experiment with the dock and hdd when they arrive next week! Quite excited, like a big kid lol
Wow good info in this thread. I never even thought to try my external hd with my infinity dock. Will save a ton of time during file transfers.
I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
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I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
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I'm one of those people that traded in there TF201 for TF700... I know this was asked and answered early on in the TF201 threads, so I guess I just carried over from there and never bothered asking it again.
For those that care I also had success with a USB 3.0 External right away. It comes with a secondary USB to power cable but that has never actually needed to be used. The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ). So long story short USB 3.0 devices should also work but at 2.0 speeds.
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The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ).
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I did the same thing with my laptop, but shortly there after, I came to realize that I wasn't using it at all in complete favor of my TF201/700.... Now I've got a lappy with a pretty 120 ssd, and not being used. Coincidentally, I have more space than that in my tablet now...
right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
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right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
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I can test it tomorrow, but I would imagine the storage part of it would work. The issues you would run into is not being able to write to it, not being able to play a regular dvd movie as it would have to be mp4 formatted, and other minor issues that require software support.
We already know gamepads, keyboards, mice, flash drives, sd card readers, and other such work..
Hi there, unfortunately nexus 4 don't have micro SD slot for memory card. I thought about how get to device additional memory. At the market there is nice gadgets like Seagate wi drive and other portable WiFi drive. Now I use 3g Wi-Fi router with shared over ftp micro SD card. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37531070#post37531070
at this link I have review how I to do it. If you have idea about wireless access additional memory, please post here. I'm will happy to see your review and gadgets that's can help improve memory for nexus 4 usage
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Trouble is I need the space for music on the move!
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Trouble is I need the space for music on the move!
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I had the same problem and here's what I did..
Got a small MP3 player like the Sandisk Sansa Clip+ .. put a 16GB memory card in it and now i'm good to go.
Amazon has it for $30.
SQ will be as good/if not better than your Nexus 4 and you will save on your Phone's battery also.
Would a WI drive work? Not sure how their companoin app works though.
http://www.kingston.com/en/usb/wireless#wid
what would be better is if they make a cable or adapter that allows you to plug in a flash drive. much more smaller to carry around in your pocket, backpack, car, or wherever.
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what would be better is if they make a cable or adapter that allows you to plug in a flash drive. much more smaller to carry around in your pocket, backpack, car, or wherever.
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You mean OTG? It's not functioning on the N4,,,,yet.
But when, and IF, someone gets it working, check out this.
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You mean OTG? It's not functioning on the N4,,,,yet.
But when, and IF, someone gets it working, check out this.
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Thanks! i never looked into an OTG cable. Ive always thought it was only meant for video output.
I am considering buying an Otg pen drive to expand capacity as well as keeping some important wip data off device, but want to know if anybody has tried them in 32 or 64 Gig capacities and how is their form factor as don't want it sticking like sore thumb that could likely damage the USB port. A unit with micro USB on side would likely be better suited, if anyone came across a model that kind?
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I am considering buying an Otg pen drive to expand capacity as well as keeping some important wip data off device, but want to know if anybody has tried them in 32 or 64 Gig capacities and how is their form factor as don't want it sticking like sore thumb that could likely damage the USB port. A unit with micro USB on side would likely be better suited, if anyone came across a model that kind?
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I am using 3 USB thumg drives. 128 GB and 64GB. SandDisk and Kingston they work with no problems.
Also Meenova MiniMicroSD card reader with 64GB micro SD that works without the OTG dongle.
All work fine.
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I am using 3 USB thumg drives. 128 GB and 64GB. SandDisk and Kingston they work with no problems.
Also Meenova MiniMicroSD card reader with 64GB micro SD that works without the OTG dongle.
All work fine.
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Thanks,
Do your thumb drives have internal OTG /,MicroUsb (as i don't want to use a dongle cable).
Just Might as well get that Card Reader anyways as that opens up a lot of possibilities.
Thumb drives require dongle.
Meenova goes direct but as for now only 64GB.
Would u guys rather have a external HD or a bigger micro SD card when u need more space?
And also would it be better / faster to run games though an external HD or a SD card ? (Games as in steam games.)
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USB3.0 transfer speeds are higher than SD, however in reality disk transfer speed makes negligible impact to gaming, it only alters load times.
external drive and cloud for me!
I've been migrating all my files over several years to external hard drives. I've taken the drives from my computers as I've retired them and turned them into slave drives first then later removed them into cases as external drives. Lately I've taken to using cloud storage. I like taking advantage of free storage offers from the various cloud drives available. Think am up to 100 to 200 gigs so far over several clouds right now. That leaves me plenty of room for on board computer gaming storage. I keep my most important go-to files on SD cards and am good. So I guess I try using all available and affordable storage.
I prefer SD so I don't have to tote around another piece of hardware and use my only usb port for it as well.
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