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I currenly have a Class 6 (I think) Sandisk 8GB micro-SDHC card in it that I was using in my HTC Desire so micro-SDHC cards should definitely work.
I have heard reports that you can't use a card > 16Gb in the tablet but that's unconfirmed AFAIK.
I've also heard rumours that the keyboard's full-size SD card slot will take SDXC format cards which supports >32Gb capacity but again I've seen no confirmation of that.
I am snapping this up as soon as it's released here.
Questions on the storage:
1-As mentioned above, is this confirmed that the tablet microSD won't accept anything larger than 8GB?
2- If i get the dock and say I have a 16gb microsd card in the tablet and 32gb sd card in the dock, i should be able to access BOTH of these from the tablet (while docked) correct? So theoretically, I would have 16GB-built in flash on tablet + 16GB microsd card on tablet + 32GB SD card in dock = 64GB?
3-I just want to find out if by docking the tablet, the tablet storage just acts like another drive?
Thanks
KG
1- Even though I have the original manual here as a pdf, there's no info on what is the maximum size of SD card in the tablet slot.
2- I'm 99% sure that it's like that. Everything else would be stupid because many android applications store data on the (tablet) sd card.
3- yes, quite sure it does.
As a plus, you can use the USB 2.0 ports to add external hard drives.
Quote from manual:
USB Port (2.0)
The USB (Universal Serial Bus) is compatible with USB 2.0 or USB 1.1 devices such as keyboards, pointing devices, flash disk drive and hard disk drives.
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Hope I could help.
Regards,
qwer23
There's a way to use USB host without the dock? I don't want to buy the keyboard because i've already got a 13" notebook for mobility, i just need a tablet but the USB host is necessary for me.
qwer23 said:
1- Even though I have the original manual here as a pdf, there's no info on what is the maximum size of SD card in the tablet slot.
2- I'm 99% sure that it's like that. Everything else would be stupid because many android applications store data on the (tablet) sd card.
3- yes, quite sure it does.
As a plus, you can use the USB 2.0 ports to add external hard drives.
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Hope I could help.
Regards,
qwer23
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Thanks for the reply!
In that case, I can't wait to get this tablet what a great concept, best of both worlds. No need to buy a case, just shut the lid and you can carry it on travel without worrying too much just like a laptop, with all the various expandability options, no need to worry about HDD space either.
When combined with dock, it actually has 2 3.5mm sockets, which means I can use 1 device and myself and my wife can watch the same thing with 2 headphones and not worry about viewing angles thanks to the IPS screen...
So long as the 16GB tablet+dock comes in at around $500 or less, I am good...!
KG
Any answer on maximum capacity?
qwer23 said:
1- Even though I have the original manual here as a pdf, there's no info on what is the maximum size of SD card in the tablet slot.
2- I'm 99% sure that it's like that. Everything else would be stupid because many android applications store data on the (tablet) sd card.
3- yes, quite sure it does.
As a plus, you can use the USB 2.0 ports to add external hard drives.
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Hope I could help.
Regards,
qwer23
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Did you by any chance find out what is the maximum capacity of the microSD card that can be used in the tablet?
I have a 16Gb class 10 installed and working perfect. I'm just thinking to purchase one of 64Gb and I'm not sure it will work.
There is no rated max capacity, I've see people who put 128GB cards in there (NTFS formatted) that work fine.
That's great news. I'll try to find a good deal on a 64Gb card and use it with my Transformer
Does anyone know if we can connect an external USB drive to the TF101 without the dock? Thanks.
junks2010 said:
Does anyone know if we can connect an external USB drive to the TF101 without the dock? Thanks.
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yes you can but you need to mod your charging cord or buy the asus proprietary port/usb dongle
Wanted to ask those who already have their tablet and dock whether you can plug a USB external HDD (without its own power) into the USB port and use it, or whether external HDD need to have their own power supply? Does the USB port on the dock provide enough power to external HDD?
yes, I've got a 500GB passport and it works great, I stor my movies on it and had no problem playing directly from the hard drive
sapiers said:
yes, I've got a 500GB passport and it works great, I stor my movies on it and had no problem playing directly from the hard drive
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Thats brilliant news as I have a passport drive as well....just waiting for my dock now.
and it can read and write to ntfs formatted drives. so no 4gb limit.
yep..my western digital portable works perfect on TF.. not sure about those requires additional powers..but it makes sense they should work well too
sweet, i was worried that the dock wouldn't provide enough power to my passport. Man i love those little drives
I've got a simpletech 160GB formatted NTFS and can't find it on the USB port. Any help?
Thanks.
I was able to get my Seagate Freeagent GO drive to work perfectly through the keyboard dock. In fact, I had an SD card, USB mouse and external HD all going at the same time
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What would be the difference between a 3.0 usb drive and a 2.0 usb drive? I think the usb ports on the TF are 3.0. TIA - sheureka
interesing.. I can power the drive fine (which is more than I can do from some of the usb ports on my desktop ).
usb 3 seems to have more connections and more power... i noticed that the ps for the tf is 15v vs 5v for standard usb.. I don't know about speed differences though. there are some threads on blown ps's with extension cables too so there is something specific here.
so. i think it's great that the usb here can power a hdd!
Its running usb 2.0
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Need to be careful. Many people are using USB connectors to do things that are very different than spec. Bottom line a physical USB connector may not have USB signals & power on it.
I think it's the drive as it runs fine on my computer, reformatted it NTFS, and even with plugged into both usb ports it still doesn't read in the TF.
USB powers it, tried usb mouse okay, sd card in kb is fine too.
I don't have a problem getting another hdd (maybe one listed here as working).
any other thoughts appreciated.
I am having a similar problem with a WD 500GB and an Oyen esata/USB 2.0 enclosure. Drive works fine on powered USB 2.0 port on my laptop, but not on the Transformer. The drive powers on, the Removable Storage notification flashes, but the drive is not recognized.
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What would be the difference between a 3.0 usb drive and a 2.0 usb drive? I think the usb ports on the TF are 3.0. TIA - sheureka
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Speed and power required. USB 3 is a lot faster.
USB 2.0 ~60MB/sec
USB 3.0 up to 640MB/sec
Prime 1.5 solved the problem. Apparently some custom kernels cannot handle NTFS.
my transformer would freeze if I tried plugging in a drive with multiple partitions, not sure how many partitions it supports formatted the drive to one partition and all is well
I have a Maxtor 3200 Personal storage 500GB with own power supply and it works.
I also have a Seagate 1TB Expansion Portable drive USB2.0 powered and this also works.
Powers up hdd but no recognition
TF101 3.2.1 Build HTK7.US_epad-8.6.5.13 stock
I am having similar issues as Adam. I have a 1TB Buffalo Ministation. My win vista pc also didn't see it initially... had to download the driver. Then I formatted it with a 32GB FAT32 partition and did the rest NTFS. My dvd player couldn't see the NTFS so I tried it to exFAT. Took all night, and still no compatibility (had to try). So now I formatted it back to NTFS. The transformer hasn't been able to recognize it in any formatted format. Not even the FAT32 bit. But it does power it nicely.
Hope someone has a trick up their sleeve, this little hdd is so portable!
SOLVED! I plugged it in on the other side (which is the left side of the dock) and VOILA! I have NTFS and the partitioned FAT32 access. How nice Now to figure out if I can somehow use it without the dock.....
I have a 2.5" 750gb Seagate Momentus HDD and a 2.5" 120gb OCZ Vertex 3 SSD both can be powered just fine by the TF. Using the Vertex 3 drive uses less power than my Seagate Momentus because there are no moving parts so I prefer it.
Incidentally, the TF uses USB 2.0 ports, not 3.0. You can use a USB 3.0 cable as it is backward compatible to 2.0. My Vertex 3 has a USB 3.0 type interface on the external enclosure it's housed in but it kicks back to 2.0 speeds while plugged into the TF which is more than enough while watching movies from it.
Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
well there is no usb 3.0 support so those are out unless you get a backwards compatible one. And you also have to check the power consumption i think it hase to be bellow 15volts but im not sure
As far as I know all USB 3.0 drives are backward compatible.
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
mrevankyle said:
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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What. There are 4 kinds of USB (not counting on the go, wireless and eventually others) : USB 1.0, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
Hi-Speed USB means just USB 2.0, Super Speed is USB 3.0 and the older ones are plain and simply USB.
The theorical top speeds are: 1.5mbps, 12mbps, 480mbps and finally 4000mbps
High speed was briefly and not standardized with USB 1.1 so some device makers had that nonsense on their hubs.
Maybe you misunderstood? Some drives don't like some hubs, but that's a power requirement... If the drive needs x volts and the hub can't offer them because it's already sharing the power with other devices and has no wall plug to get extra power, the drive will just spin up and down without ever starting. 3.5" drives always need their own power adapter, so those always work, 2.5" ones usually draw the power from the USB and as such might be a little hit and miss with hubs, however the Transformer powers them up quite well.
Western Digital makes awesome, reliable, fast and quiet drives, I do have an USB 2.0 My Passport... And several others in various devices
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shaneledford said:
Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
AcIdC0R3 said:
I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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droidjens said:
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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Thanks everyone. So far It looks like this one is a pretty good choice. It has good reviews and if its confirmed working on the Transformer I might go ahead and grab it.
Hope it'll serve you well.
I just remembered that I had to re-format it to NTFS before the Transformer would recognize it. Just thought I'd let you know.
AlexTheStampede said:
So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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...but extremely dependable, very effective and lower power consuming than any of those Buffalo drives. I have a Buffalo NAS drive and they're good for that but as for using one for a portable drive I would not. If you're going to use a regular HDD I would at least go with a Seagate or Western Digital drive as they tend to be better drives and are far quieter than any other brand on the market today. Yeah it may be a little more expensive but it's worth it. At least it was for me that is.
i have a 350g western digital that ive had forever.
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
r_nt said:
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
sonami said:
why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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Only one of the cards is micro; the other is full-sized. No switching necessary.
Hey there folks, I was wondering if there was a special type of internal adapter to exist that would allow me to use 2, 64 GB micro sd cards in my phone. I'm looking for like a male micro sd card input-to-dual female micro sd card output adapter to connect to the female micro sd card input in the inside of my phone. It would use the same concept of the cable that is used to connect a desktop hard drive to the power source, then from the power source to the motherboard to make the drive primary or slave.... I think cuz I cant remember the name of that kind of cable?
Anyways, it would look kind of like this:
__________ _____
\_PHONE_/ __ \M-SD/
I I / \___/
I_I_______/
I _____
I____/M-SD\
\ ____ /
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Why not just get a wireless hard drive? I have one and it's awesome.
Interesting - what brand do you have?
I have the SanDisk 64 GB Micro SD Card. It's the Class 10, grey and red-colored one. Iv'e never had any issues with my card, I just want to be able to add another 64 GB card without having to lug around a hard drive. There was a guy who had a similar kind of cable adapter setup but it was a male micro sd card input-to-dual female (reguar-sized) sd card output and his S3 was able to recognize his total memory of 128 GB's. How expensive, how big in physical size, and how big in GB size are wireless HDD's these days??
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They had something like that before, can't seem to find it, you can try to contact them.
The price isn't cheap nor expensive.
http://www.redtron.com/
you can also try this place.
http://dx.com/
The sandisk 128gb sd cards work with the s4, so this might be the easiest solution.
Yes, I realize the 128GB micro SD Card from SanDisk works with the Galaxy devices but I had initially asked the question way before the 128GB mSD came out this year. But still, if such a PCI type of card reader extender exists & it could let your galaxy device read (2) 128GB mSD cards.... WOW!
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Ahh ha! I found it... kind of. It's basically this: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014...rd-Compact-Flash-CF-Card-Type/1889508912.html but has (2) strips coming off if it to tie into a set of dual micro SD TF adapters. This would allow you to input the male side of this adapter into the back of the phone/tablet, while you could potentially input (2) 128GB micro SD cards into each slot of the TF adapter. If I remember correctly, this guy's version years ago was similar to what I'm looking for but his had 2 TF slots each for 2 separate regular-sized SD cards and was able to read up to 128GB's or so with his. Im saying, take the same technology but add 2 TF adapters to input (2) 128GB micro SD cards instead and put the male end of the adapter into the female micro SD card slot into the back of the tablet/phone.
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I bought a female USB to male micro USB adapter and I can plug a thumb drive into my phone. It works great for transferring files. Now I just need a splitter to power an external hard drive to see if my phone can read that too.
It also works with a wireless mouse and keyboard USB dongle.
Similar to this:
http://www.cablewholesale.com/products/usb-firewire/usb-2.0-cables/product-30u2-21100.php?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=organic&gclid=Cj0KEQjwo82eBRCR1Yr2u-G-sK8BEiQAbrSjVKXXSZGmryevIlcw9Ba7QB4yBwXzpL_lsmo6hWFJ7D8aAiOt8P8HAQ
The only dual micro sd adapter I have ever seen was for the playstation portable. 2 cards into one memory stick adapter. I have used the full sd to micro sd with a 128gb card. Worked fine when formatted to fat 32.
Now that 128gb micro sdxc cards are availble, no need for that Macguyver stuff.
Now if you could find an microsd to otg cable adapter with multiple microsd slots, that would be a winner.
Yeah, now you're talking... with "the micro usb-to-multiple micro SD card slot!" Imagine if there was an OTG cable just like that with support for dual/triple micro SD cards each at 128GB's and that the OTG cable could read it on all Galaxy tablets & the S4 & S5's?! Ohhhh the insanity!! :what:
The iSheep would have heart-attacks!
I shall buy the first OTG triple micro SD card cable you make if you patent it and build it!
:thumbup::beer:
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...or just get an OTG cable and format an external portable drive to Fat32 and duct tape it all together 2TB in the palm of your hand!
honestly, and thin film OTG ribbon cable with built in USB hub and multiple SD card slots should work it could be thin enough fold over and to be double sided taped to the exterior of your battery cover without being too obvious. this would add maybe 2-3mm overall in thickness. probably wouldn't be to durable though. maybe integrate it into a TPU cover/case to protect the thin cable...
but then we are starting to get ridiculous.
See, now you're getting somewhere with your "usb hub & multiple SD card slots" idea MadMan. I saw an OTG cable with dual female micro SD slots but it was too thick (like an inch thick) and had a super sticky/tacky tape on the back so one could attach it to the back of your phone or phone case. Just too bulky. Although, the Wifi idea is something to look into as well but I'm usually not in areas that have Wifi, thus the desire for more space without carrying around an external HDD.
I was looking for basically a male Micro SD Extension Cable (like you see below) with a ribbon type connection but has dual female Micro SD slots so it could fit between the back of the phone and front of the battery or back of phone and front of phone case... not for the extension cable to be put on the back side of the phone case.
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Interesting
the psp adaptors work good but are very flimsy
Just get a dual interface flash drive, micro usb + usb PC storage. The sandisk ones are pretty cheap and go up to 128gb. Theyre really small too, dont stick out much on the phone. Plus the storage speeds are much faster than micro SD and all your files are on one storage. I use mine for screen recording games with no lag or stutter, whereas writing to the micro SD causes a lot of games to pause so the card can catch up. Easier transfer to PC or sharing with other USB readable devices too. Much more worth it than a dual micro SD port (though it sounds pretty awesome)
Ok, so ya'll can keep this post going but I have officially lost interest due to my S5 having caught fire last week! Due to the damages to the phone, being a very long-standing TMobile customer, and misinformation from a few folks.... I have now received a FREE upgrade to a Galaxy S8! So happy now! Now I'll just swap over my *still working, yet undamaged* 64 GB Micro SD Card but maybe get the 256 GB SanDisk Micro SD Card in the future just for the hell of it... cuz I can! :silly:
Here's a pic that I took with my burner phone of my S5 after it caught fire.
spicy_puerto_rican said:
Here's a pic that I took with my burner phone of my S5 after it caught fire.
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And how in the hell did you manage that? :angel:
I have used external hard drive before with my note 3 but it's only 150GB. Now with S6 having no expandable SD card, I'm thinking I'd keep an external hard drive handy. I know it supports USB OTG on the get go but can I it run 1 TB HDD without extra power source? I think this is better than buying a 64 GB model with the same price of 32 GB model and 1TB HDD.
or do you think I should go with the 64 GB model?
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I have used external hard drive before with my note 3 but it's only 150GB. Now with S6 having no expandable SD card, I'm thinking I'd keep an external hard drive handy. I know it supports USB OTG on the get go but can I it run 1 TB HDD without extra power source? I think this is better than buying a 64 GB model with the same price of 32 GB model and 1TB HDD.
or do you think I should go with the 64 GB model?
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Did you have 1TB of storage on your previous phone with SD? If not, why do you need the hassle now? Why not get a MicroSD adapter that is a fewe $ and still use your MicroSD?
To naswer your wuestion - it will not handle a device with that much power draw.
Szadzik said:
Did you have 1TB of storage on your previous phone with SD? If not, why do you need the hassle now? Why not get a MicroSD adapter that is a fewe $ and still use your MicroSD?
To naswer your wuestion - it will not handle a device with that much power draw.
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Because my macbook storage is almost full so I find the need of using an external HDD. Do you have any idea what maximum storage GS6 can handle via USB OTG?
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Because my macbook storage is almost full so I find the need of using an external HDD. Do you have any idea what maximum storage GS6 can handle via USB OTG?
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Hard to say, but I would first start with upgrading your Macbooks drive instead of looking at solutions like connecting a 1TB drive to a phone.
An extreme solution would be to get get proper cables and use a powerbank to power the drive and have it working on the phone, still.
KristianKenneth said:
Because my macbook storage is almost full so I find the need of using an external HDD. Do you have any idea what maximum storage GS6 can handle via USB OTG?
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It's not the size drive that's the issue, its the type of drive you connect. A flash drive is one thing, bit don't think about hooking up a 2.5" mechanical external hard drive. Even if it worked, your battery would die in no time.
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Let me break it down.
Note 3 USB OTG output current: 900mA
Note 2 USB OTG output current: 500mA
Note 4 USB OTG output current: 600mA
S4 USB OTG output current: 500mA
HTC m7 USB OTG output current: 300mA
HTC m8 USB OTG output current: 500mA
So, maybe, maybe not. Note 3 can run every drive I've tried except the power hungry 4TB Seagate Backup Plus Fast.
If you want to measure your drive and find out the current draw, just buy the inexpensive CHARGER Doctor.
Also, the S6 will probably have 600mA output, so it most likely can handle some drives, but you'll need to measure to be sure. I'll be testing an S6 soon to verify output current.