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Random Shut Down Issue - Theory: Let's compare apps

Some of us are having problems with our Captivate randomly shutting down. AT&T technical support thinks it could be apps that we've installed. Could they be right? My replacement device didn't start shutting down again after 3-4 days of owning it. By that time, I have already installed some favorite apps. Here's my list. Let's compare and figure this out. It's just a theory. Can't hurt.
<<<< OMG! While typing this new thread to turn on my phone so I can see the list of apps I have installed, MY PHONE TURNED OFF ON ME! WHAT THE...!!! >>> Anyway...
Apps installed:
-SMS Back Up and Restore
-Yahoo! Mail for Android
-Adobe Reader
-XDA-Developers
-Market History Manager
-Speedtest.net
-Google Maps

Mine never did it until I set advanced tag killer to harsh every half hour. I watered down the harshness a little bit and it hasn't shut off since
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Theres a thread in the vibrant section that's about the same problem and it happens after 3 days could try there
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Thanks. I just posted on an existing thread over there. I will do a hardware master reset later and observe again the next 3-4 days. Samsung gave me the directions. (Hold the volume up and down plus the power button, all 3 buttons for 15 seconds, etc.)

most are saying that its bad RAM/memory and exchanging the handset fixed all the problems

andy2na said:
most are saying that its bad RAM/memory and exchanging the handset fixed all the problems
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Is there a memtest type application for android? Bad memory would make sense, but so would a number of other theories.

Ur welcome hope it helps and u get it figured out
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RexEscape said:
Thanks. I just posted on an existing thread over there. I will do a hardware master reset later and observe again the next 3-4 days. Samsung gave me the directions. (Hold the volume up and down plus the power button, all 3 buttons for 15 seconds, etc.)
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Yeah, that's their answer for all problems, big and small. I'm sure in some cases it's valid, but the reset is used more as a "what the hell' reply rather than a knowledge-based solution.

Jack45 said:
Yeah, that's their answer for all problems, big and small. I'm sure in some cases it's valid, but the reset is used more as a "what the hell' reply rather than a knowledge-based solution.
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...which I agree to some point. Some users just end up loading crap on devices which screws things up (some of the apps mentioned above might be crap, or not, not sure, it's only a theory. Of course, a perfect device is a unit that can withstand ANY apps you feed to it. But we don't have THE perfect device (yet, or ever).
I will do the hardware master reset in a few minutes and not load anything for 3-4 days (but I will enter my Gmail account and let it sync with my Contacts, Calendar, and Email, but that's it...for now).

RexEscape said:
...which I agree to some point. Some users just end up loading crap on devices which screws things up (some of the apps mentioned above might be crap, or not, not sure, it's only a theory. Of course, a perfect device is a unit that can withstand ANY apps you feed to it. But we don't have THE perfect device (yet, or ever).
I will do the hardware master reset in a few minutes and not load anything for 3-4 days (but I will enter my Gmail account and let it sync with my Contacts, Calendar, and Email, but that's it...for now).
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What steers me away from the app theory is that there have been several posts indicating that the random shutdowns have occurred with a stock device. No apps downloaded / installed.
I don't have an answer except to say that the master reset can't hurt. Realistically, though, if you go a few days without a shutdown don't sit back and smile like the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes the shutdowns occur weeks into ownership. I'm not being negative, just realistic.
I wish you well.

Jack45 said:
What steers me away from the app theory is that there have been several posts indicating that the random shutdowns have occurred with a stock device. No apps downloaded / installed.
I don't have an answer except to say that the master reset can't hurt. Realistically, though, if you go a few days without a shutdown don't sit back and smile like the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes the shutdowns occur weeks into ownership. I'm not being negative, just realistic.
I wish you well.
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Agreed. Like I said, this is my second device and the shutdowns didn't start until 3-4 days after ownership on both devices. The reality (for me) is that the Captivate isn't so great after all after two devices already (sorry to say) but I'm not going to give up just yet. I have until the 31st to decide whether I will continue this 30-day early upgrade trial or take it back and continue to use my HTC Fuze and just let my contract expire (in October). If I take it back, come October, I will decide whether I will stay with AT&T and take on another (hopefully bug-free) Captivate, or move to Verizon and check out their Android phones -- HTC and Motorola devices!

I just did a hardware master reset. It isn't exactly a hardware master reset like the tech guy described it. He gave me the directions to "delete user data". It deleted the apps that I have downloaded from the Market, and other things. I don't know what else. However, when it booted up again, I noticed my settings and widgets are still there. My homescreen was still customized the way I had it. So, it's not a total master reset. The software Factory Reset isn't also a total (software) reset. I did that and found some folders left in my internal memory (not my external MicroSD) from the previous working session. Hmm..

my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.

vksf01 said:
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
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exactly how it happens on mine.

i'll see what happens over the rest of the week and then try the master reset. if it still happens, i'm going to return this for another one. unfortunately, i've had it for over 30 days.

vksf01 said:
i'll see what happens over the rest of the week and then try the master reset. if it still happens, i'm going to return this for another one. unfortunately, i've had it for over 30 days.
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Even after 30 days, you will still be able to return it (maybe to Samsung) for repair or a replacement. Good luck.

vksf01 said:
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
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Mine has shut down twice, and I've only had it for 12 days. As you described, it happened both times in the morning, following a recharge.
I had to remove and replace the battery to get it to turn back on, is that the same thing that happened to you? I mean to say, did you have to remove and replace the battery to get it to work again?

The two Captivates I've owned (and returned due to a combination of GPS and Random Shut Downs) have shut down on me even in the middle of the day (not only in the morning after recharging for the night). It shut down on me while getting my afternoon coffee. I was showing the phone to the Barista, set the phone down on the counter to pay, picked it up, walked back to my office and just when I'm about to wake it up, it does the bootup. It also shut down on me at night while walking in the dark. I noticed my pocket lit up. I pulled out my phone and I saw the Shut Down screen as if you had pressed and held the power button (but nothing else was in my pocket that could have pressed the button!).
Random, I tell ya. Random.

pmpntl said:
exactly how it happens on mine.
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Larry202br said:
Mine has shut down twice, and I've only had it for 12 days. As you described, it happened both times in the morning, following a recharge.
I had to remove and replace the battery to get it to turn back on, is that the same thing that happened to you? I mean to say, did you have to remove and replace the battery to get it to work again?
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no, i just turned it back on using the power button.

I just wanted to chime in to say that I am having the same problem. Random shutdowns, not necessarily related to charging. Often they are in the morning however. For me it has been happening a few times a day. Likewise, it seems to have not happened at first, but began a few days ago (I have owned the phone about 2 weeks.)
Are you guys rooted? I have tried unrooting to see if that matters. I don't know why it would, but perhaps...

Random Shutdowns and LauncherPro

I've been very careful not to point a finger at a particular app as a cause of random shutdowns (other than aggressive user settings within SetCPU). Before I continue, let me say that I believe there is more than one culprit responsible for shutdowns and that most are caused by non-app related issues.
I've had my third device for 2-1/2 months. No shutdowns whatsover...until I installed LauncherPro last week. Then they started. I removed LauncherPro and - back to normal. Another user on another forum experienced the same effect and caused me to start this thread. I hereby declare an official suspicion that LauncherPro is one of the causes of random shutdowns. Before you react, I understand that many use LauncherPro with no problems. Great. I'm not saying that the app itself is poorly coded, but rather that it may begin a chain reaction in some devices that causes random shutdowns. I have not taken this declaration lightly. I waited a long time before openly stating my theory. I hope it proves of interest.

Are you using Task Killer? I was having the same issue and thought it was Launcher Pro for a while but when I stopped using Task Killer my random shutdown problems stopped.
Captivate Cog 2.2 Beta 9

No task killers.

I've recently had some extended freezes and one force close with launcher pro, and one shutdown when I was launching Vlingo and/or starting bluetooth, can't recall which step. Might be something to do with the recent update.
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I suppose I can test this out on mine. I'll let you know what I find.

I was using LauncherPro on my previous handset which experienced random shutdowns, but the shutdowns continued even after reflashing to factory with no add-ons or apps. Not saying that LP isn't causing problems of it's own, but power issues exist regardless.

I've been using LauncherPro (and upgraded to Plus when that came out) since release. No random shutdowns. Actually no random shutdowns at all. But I guess I'm lucky

pezx44 said:
I suppose I can test this out on mine. I'll let you know what I find.
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Your device would have to be inherently susceptible to shutdowns caused by the action of LauncherPro for your test to work. If your internals are solid, nothing will happen.

pfroo40 said:
I was using LauncherPro on my previous handset which experienced random shutdowns, but the shutdowns continued even after reflashing to factory with no add-ons or apps. Not saying that LP isn't causing problems of it's own, but power issues exist regardless.
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Agree. LP, IMHO, is simply offered as one possible culprit.

tysj said:
I've been using LauncherPro (and upgraded to Plus when that came out) since release. No random shutdowns. Actually no random shutdowns at all. But I guess I'm lucky
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You are fortunate, as there are multiple scenarios under which shutdowns have occurred...e.g., during high charge percentages as experienced repeatedly by some. My LP experience is being offered as my phone has served as an otherwise stable environment.

Jack45 said:
Your device would have to be inherently susceptible to shutdowns caused by the action of LauncherPro for your test to work. If your internals are solid, nothing will happen.
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Oh I'm quite susceptible. I get it regularly until my battery is down to about 82. I've used LP the whole time I had the phone. Currently I am using Captivate Keep Alive and it seems to work. I also started another thread where I found that running Grooveshark keeps the phone alive for me. I can guarantee that my phone will shut off within a couple of minutes of unplugging it without these things.
I'm charging now. I have already backed up and removed LP and CKA. When it is fully charged I will unplug it and leave it alone for a bit and report back. I agree with people who say "hardware issue - return it" but I can't do that and don't mind testing different workarounds. So far CKA has been working pretty well for me but I'm open to running less instead of more to solve it.

pezx44 said:
Oh I'm quite susceptible. I get it regularly until my battery is down to about 82. I've used LP the whole time I had the phone. Currently I am using Captivate Keep Alive and it seems to work. I also started another thread where I found that running Grooveshark keeps the phone alive for me. I can guarantee that my phone will shut off within a couple of minutes of unplugging it without these things.
I'm charging now. I have already backed up and removed LP and CKA. When it is fully charged I will unplug it and leave it alone for a bit and report back. I agree with people who say "hardware issue - return it" but I can't do that and don't mind testing different workarounds. So far CKA has been working pretty well for me but I'm open to running less instead of more to solve it.
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Excellent. Two separate potential culprits - charge level and LP. I'm looking forward to your assessment.

I decided to reinstall LP to get a baseline. 6 minutes after unplugging it I tried to turn the screen back on and found that it had shut down. I recharged and repeated. Again I found it had shut down when I checked after 6 minutes.
I then recharged and removed LP. I waited 6 minutes and found that it was still on. I am recharging and will try again after a longer period of time but it looks promising. I will let you know when I have more info.

Well, no dice. I checked after a half hour and it was off. I'm open to any other experiments though.

pezx44 said:
Well, no dice. I checked after a half hour and it was off. I'm open to any other experiments though.
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You have no complaints, my friend. A half hour of uptime is better than 6 minutes!
So, yours is a power-related issue and it looks like CKA is the answer. I wonder if Froyo will address this.

But it was only a half hour when I saw it was off. It could have been 6.5 minutes in.
I'm currently running Froyo (Cognition 8.1). This has been an issue for me since before that though. One thing I can't quite remember is if it happened before I unlocked my phone. Is yours unlocked? I needed to do this because I do not live in the US.

pezx44 said:
Is yours unlocked? I needed to do this because I do not live in the US.
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Unlocked, rooted, and stable (which is more than I can say for myself).
On a more serious note, when I first received my replacement I created the following settings to try to avoid the shutdowns until I was confident that the phone was o.k.
For your consideration:
1. Wi-Fi was always on and is set to never sleep. The "never sleep" settings can be accessed via the Wi-Fi settings page menu, Advanced tab at the bottom. Reason: I'm attempting to generate additional under-the-cover activity (plus I do use Wi-Fi). As I'm not a technician, this may be nonsense.
2. Power saving mode was not checked. Reason: "Don't do me any favors, Captivate. Your idea of power saving may get out of hand."
3. I never let the phone go into sleep mode on its own (that's still the case). Default is 30 minutes, but I always push the button to get it to sleep and get it to wake. Reason: Just in case the built-in sleep timer thinks that "sleep" and "coma" are synonymous.
You can try these three mods to see if they work for you. Remember to uninstall CKA for now to make the above a valid test.
Don't forget to write.

Jack45 said:
Unlocked, rooted, and stable (which is more than I can say for myself).
On a more serious note, when I first received my replacement I created the following settings to try to avoid the shutdowns until I was confident that the phone was o.k.
For your consideration:
1. Wi-Fi was always on and is set to never sleep. The "never sleep" settings can be accessed via the Wi-Fi settings page menu, Advanced tab at the bottom. Reason: I'm attempting to generate additional under-the-cover activity (plus I do use Wi-Fi). As I'm not a technician, this may be nonsense.
2. Power saving mode was not checked. Reason: "Don't do me any favors, Captivate. Your idea of power saving may get out of hand."
3. I never let the phone go into sleep mode on its own (that's still the case). Default is 30 minutes, but I always push the button to get it to sleep and get it to wake. Reason: Just in case the built-in sleep timer thinks that "sleep" and "coma" are synonymous.
You can try these three mods to see if they work for you. Remember to uninstall CKA for now to make the above a valid test.
Don't forget to write.
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1. I have the same setting for wifi (I use my phone for SIP calls often).
2. I absolutely agree with you on this and it is also already my setting.
3. I always turn off my screen too, but I will set it to 30 minutes to see if that makes a difference and test again without LP/CKA. I can't see how it would be related but I certainly don't mind trying it if for no other reason than to rule it out.
I'll let you know how things go.
And just in case, by unlocked we are talking SIM unlocked right?

>>> I always turn off my screen too, but I will set it to 30 minutes to see if that makes a difference and test again without LP/CKA. I can't see how it would be related but I certainly don't mind trying it if for no other reason than to rule it out.
As the timeout for sleep mode is power-related, I wanted to take that out of the Captivate's hands. The on-off switch is OURS to deal with at will. Want the room light on? Turn it on. Etc. Basically, I wanted to generate persistent under-the-cover activity (WiFi) while eliminating decision making activity on the part of the device.
>>> And just in case, by unlocked we are talking SIM unlocked right?
I can place any non-AT&T SIM in the phone and it will work.

No LP issues here since I've owned the phone.
I've had LP on with full charge all the way down to 30% +/- and still ran like a champ.
Currently on Cognition beta 9 - still the same story.
I truly think you have a lemon phone. And I just flashed and haven't tweaked any of the default settings that are "out of the box" after a flash... so I assume they are all default.
The only FC/shutdown issues I've had recently were with Cognition beta 7 and advanced audio manager. I removed it and *poof* no more FC's. And since I was never that concerned with my sound settings (it's on vibrate 99% of the time anyways due to work environment and a lil' guy) I didn't care.
I'd look into getting a refurb - or flashing to Cognition's latest and greatest (hmm... well I would wait for 9.2 as he is having some "growing pains" with his new kernel) and see how it goes then. Can always Odin back to stock if needed.

Anybody having reboots/freezes, have you tried this?

Don't ask why but try doing the following:
- Settings -> Sound -> Haptic Feedback. UNCHECK (turning it off)
- Settings -> Language and Keyboard -> Android Keyboard Settings -> Vibrate on KeyPress. UNCHECK (turning it off)
I've had good results since doing this without changing anything else, phone has been more stable and no random reboots or freezes yet. Theory is due to the custom driver/vibrator used in the LG G2X (per CM7 team) there's a memory leak or some bug that over time causes the phone to reboot/freeze.
Why I think this:
- A few times in the last few weeks it froze was when a notification came in (GMail, SMS, etc.) that would have caused the phone to vibrate but instead of doing so it just did the SOD. Know this because I have a XOOM with me (3G) and emails come to both XOOM and G2X same time
- If I leave everything on, after about 2-3 days of use the vibrations start getting wonky with some lasting longer than they should or just not doing it properly
- Had a similar issue with CM7 on my Verizon Incredible where vibration issues would eventually lead to a reboot/freeze
NO GUARANTEES THIS WORKS. But I wanted to share and get more feedback. Please make these changes and then restart so its fresh. You don't need to disable vibration alerts, just the haptic feedback and keyboard vibrate.
Please post your feedback. Thanks.

I dont have reboots and never have those on...I'm gonna turn em on and see what happens..

I just turned mine off as suggested... I am on my 2nd G2x and am experiencing reboot issues already. I will keep you posted after a couple days on the results.
Thanks for posting this potential fix.

Had these off ever since I got the phone, haptic feedback gets really annoying. Will put them on and see what I find

I have had those on and had no reboots.
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witeboy07 said:
I have had those on and had no reboots.
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Might be related to hw. The vibrator in the phone is a piece of hw so maybe some versions have problems and some don't. I know while my Incredible had vibration problems on CM7 others didn't with same exact software.
I wanted to see more if people getting reboots benefitted at all from these or not. It you don't have reboots at all this post is irrelevant.

mobilehavoc said:
Might be related to hw. The vibrator in the phone is a piece of hw so maybe some versions have problems and some don't. I know while my Incredible had vibration problems on CM7 others didn't with same exact software.
I wanted to see more if people getting reboots benefitted at all from these or not. It you don't have reboots at all this post is irrelevant.
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It might have more to do with the software. I've used the stock ROM, the leaked 2.3.3, and Cyanogenmod, and all three use different vibration models. The 2.3.3 was particularly bad, CM7 is probably the best.

Bought my G2x on the 9th( So, hello! I'm new ) and everything was great until... yesterday actually. Had a bootloop and had to factory reset, then it locked up later. Then today it locked up and I pulled the battery and just now it didn't come on when I tried to unlock it.
So... I'm trying this. Hopefully it works. D:
If not, I'm gonna have to get a replacement or something. I'll be back with a follow up, some time.

For those of you who try this, please update here after a day or two. I am likely to let T-Mobile switch my phone out to a Sensation today so I may not have a G2x to play with any more. I really like it and if there is a simple fix I'd be willing to give it another go.

Trying it now
I haven't had it reboot on me since I did a factory reset last week...
I'm going to turn off the vibrate settings as described in the first post. I'll come back in a few days to respond if I've had any reboots, freezes, etc.
EDIT: I'm also going to reboot after changing these settings just to make sure they "stick" and the phone is "fresh".

Day 1, no freezes.
I charged the phone and it didn't freeze either...
It's Day 2 now and I'll let you know how this goes down as well.

I haven't had either of these options checked since I first got the phone. I have a reboot approx every 1-2 days and a freeze every 3rd time.

Another strange thing
It's been over a day and a half after I've turned off the haptic feedback settings described by OP and no reboots or freezes yet. Even while using wifi calling and heavy camera use and very heavy picture uploading directly from phone to picasaweb.
Something else strange that happened to me before that could be related to the vibrate software/hardware is when some one called me it would vibrate and ring like normal but after sliding the green arrow over to answer it stopped ringing, answered the call just fine, but the whole time while talking the motor continued to vibrate in the two pulse way it normally does! Has anyone else had this happen!?

harleyxlc said:
I haven't had either of these options checked since I first got the phone. I have a reboot approx every 1-2 days and a freeze every 3rd time.
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Try wiping your dalvik cache as I've posted in a separate thread.

worked for me. 2 days no problems

day/charge 2 and 3... everything is going well.

[Q] What problems still exist after update?

It appears that both LG and T-mobile are putting a LOT on the hope that this update has indeed fixed all of the problems plagued with the G2X. But to be honest with you, I only notice 2 differences with the update...gps and data speed.
Problems I'm still having:
Random reboots
Lock-ups when switching from USB storage on to off
Sleep of death (try to wake the screen with the power button, and you can see some kind of slight light behind the black screen, but requires a battery pull)
Camera is dark, dark, dark
MP3 Ringtone at max volume when call is coming in is distorted
I will edit this if I think of more, but I have to go handle some business en el bano.
Please reply if you are having these issues, not having these issues, or if you have other issues.

mmapcpro said:
It appears that both LG and T-mobile are putting a LOT on the hope that this update has indeed fixed all of the problems plagued with the G2X. But to be honest with you, I only notice 2 differences with the update...gps and data speed.
Problems I'm still having:
Random reboots
Lock-ups when switching from USB storage on to off
Sleep of death (try to wake the screen with the power button, and you can see some kind of slight light behind the black screen, but requires a battery pull)
Camera is dark, dark, dark
MP3 Ringtone at max volume when call is coming in is distorted
I will edit this if I think of more, but I have to go handle some business en el bano.
Please reply if you are having these issues, not having these issues, or if you have other issues.
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Only problems ppl complaining about is not having lg camera in gb
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mmapcpro said:
Problems I'm still having:
Random reboots
Lock-ups when switching from USB storage on to off
Sleep of death (try to wake the screen with the power button, and you can see some kind of slight light behind the black screen, but requires a battery pull)
Camera is dark, dark, dark
MP3 Ringtone at max volume when call is coming in is distorted
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So basically this update has fixed nothing?

I had no problems before update except for some minor black light bleed. After update I had a few sleep of death issues happened 4 time in the few days running the update. Yesterday I flashed the rooted update and have had No problems yet.
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It fixed my wifi, it's like night and day now. Battery has very slightly improved. LG camera is gone. Overall though, I'm happy.

I was happy but just had a random shutdown. First one hopefully last. That is with the update
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I really HATE the new buttons on the keyboard...as well as the fact that double hitting spacebar no longer equals a period. I know they're petty, but they annoy the f*** out of me.

bballcat03 said:
I really HATE the new buttons on the keyboard...as well as the fact that double hitting spacebar no longer equals a period. I know they're petty, but they annoy the f*** out of me.
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Should be a setting under the keyboard settings to re-enable the double tap period shortcut.
G2X CM7

omarsalmin said:
So basically this update has fixed nothing?
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I know right? Since I updated my phone still won't help me make an army of tiny, laser toting robot minions. Stoopid LG.
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My problems got worse. GPS won't lock on now, and when it does, it's like 30 miles off.
Getting more freezes and reboots.
Finally decided to try a warranty replacement!

The update fixxed all the reboot problems for me, however my GPS still takes forever to get a fix, and once when checking for a text message i was expecting, i would turn the screen on and off every 15 seconds or so for about 2 minutes, which eventually led to the screen getting stuck. Everything seemed to work (slight vibrate when using the unlock slider, able to feel buttons being touched through the vibration), just the screen was frozen. Weird bug, was fixxed with a battery pull and a restart though.

for those wanting the lg camera app on gingerbread, couldnt you just make a backup of the application with titanium backup and restore? Or is it not compatible on gingerbread?
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I have the following issues:
1. Phone turned off while charging overnight
2. During calls, it cuts in and out almost constantly (or every several seconds)
3. Battery life hit the crapper (due to Juicedefender not turning off radio and bloatware present again since I'm not rooted anymore)
I haven't gotten any reboots or lockups, yet
Wifi is pretty solid now
Somewhat better performance, although it lags a bit when woken up

d12unk13astard said:
for those wanting the lg camera app on gingerbread, couldnt you just make a backup of the application with titanium backup and restore? Or is it not compatible on gingerbread?
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Not yet compatible.
G2X CM7

Lakonikos said:
The update fixxed all the reboot problems for me, however my GPS still takes forever to get a fix, and once when checking for a text message i was expecting, i would turn the screen on and off every 15 seconds or so for about 2 minutes, which eventually led to the screen getting stuck. Everything seemed to work (slight vibrate when using the unlock slider, able to feel buttons being touched through the vibration), just the screen was frozen. Weird bug, was fixxed with a battery pull and a restart though.
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Regarding GPS, just curious if you have wireless networks enabled under Settings > Location and Security
G2X CM7

Just got the OTA this morning and I've noticed much faster GPS lock and vastly improved call quality (no more drop outs!). Only been a few hours though so this is just my initial impressions. Would love it if the battery life improves but I'll have to wait and see.

My phone is way faster now and I even got a quadrant score above 3000 but it's locked up and rebooted 3 times today so I have mixed feelings.
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cuda340 said:
My phone is way faster now and I even got a quadrant score above 3000 but it's locked up and rebooted 3 times today so I have mixed feelings.
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My Quadrant speeds are the same as before... Around 2800.
I've had several random reboots today and only had maybe 4 over the last 3 months with Froyo. Trying out some different ROMs, xboarders tweaked, to see if that corrects some of the problem.

[Q] Another G2x noob, is my phone going to be a lemon?

I'm kinda hesitant to post this, because I know you guys go through great lengths to emphasize searching first. I watched the video when I registered, nice touch. More forums could use vids like that!
oh well, here we go:
I have owned an Iphone every since they where introduced to the market. I have been wanting to make a switch for a while now. I was very close to purchasing a G2x back in April when they came out, but I held off. Well recently, a coworker let me check out his HTC G2 and I was amazed at the functionality, features, and other misc items compared to my old Iphone 3GS. I was never a fan of the slide out keyboard, so I knew the G2 was not for me.
Last week, I just missed the free promo on T-MO's web site, so Instead I purchased a G2X locally. I was totally unaware of all the problems you guys where having, as the typical review sites never mention these issues.
I have owned the phone for 8 days, So far here is whats been a going on:
7-29-11 Purchased the phone from Best Buy, decided to buy from them since they where the cheapest out the door with out rebate. I hate rebates! lol
Right before I am going to bed, I plug in to charge, and the phone shuts off, I cannot get it to power back up. I did not know about pulling the battery, I thought it had just died. I was going to wake up the next morning and take it back.
7-30-11 When I woke up, I looked around online, and found out about removing the battery and putting it back in. Now phone is working again.
I was able to get the OTA update to 2.3.3, right after the update, I did a master reset.
8-2-11 I downloaded a "radio scanner" app, and the first time I executed it, the phone froze, requiring another battery pull. Afterwards, the app ran fine.
Those are the only 2 major issues I have had.
Here are a few other things I noticed:
Screen: No separation, very slight light blur around top corners with lit black screen. Does not bother me, and I can't really notice it 99% of the time.
GPS: I know some have been having issues with this, for me, The time to get an accurate fix can sometimes take anywhere from 5-30 seconds. Even with the stock toggle always turned on, I do not always have the GPS Icon in the top bar, I don't know if I am supposed to. Can someone please confirm this?
WI FI: Seems to be working like intended, no complaints there.
BT: I have nothing to pair with the phone, so I will probably never know.
Making calls: this is kinda annoying, I will look through my call log and select a person, I see the dialer initiating so I put the phone to my ear, but a few seconds go by and nothing.... I look at the phone and find myself looking at the call log again, like the dialer crashed? Also, during the conversation the screen will turn off. I think this is normal, but when the phone detects motion shouldn't the screen turn back on?
Other than that, I love this phone so far. However, I do not want to swap handset after handset, refurb after refurb with T-MO or LG.
Is it possible that the phone will NOT continue to get worse as time goes on? Or should I take the first shut down as a sign of whats to come in the future? I have a 6 days left to take this thing back, but I am having a major conflict with myself about keeping it. What makes it even harder, Is I have already ordered a 32g micro SD, Trident case, and 3 extra data cables.
My plans are to root it, and run some sort of rom with it once I read up and half ass know what I am doing.
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TLDR:
Have owned phone for a week. Shut down instantly the first time I charged it requiring a battery pull. Froze/crashed due to an app maybe Second battery pull.
Question a few functions but otherwise works like a champ.
Purchased case, micro sd, extra data cables.
thinking of taking it back and cancelling contract to avoid future headaches, but not sure if I should or want to at this point. need avdice please!

Doesn't sound like a lemon. The stock software is buggy. If you're gonna root it and flash another rom then you're gonna love this phone.
The GPS indicator is normal. It only shows when an app is using GPS for your location. Otherwise it doesn't show.
G2X CM7

It doesn't sound like a lemon to me either. I bought mine in April and my phone had a few reboots while charging overnight and two freezes in the first month. It has been OK since then, although I did not do anything about it (and I'm still on Froyo). The only thing I do is that I reboot my phone manually once in 7-10 days because the phone starts to lag. I believe this is normal for all smartphones including iPhone...or am I wrong?

Oh, forgot to mention when I hit the power button to wake the phone and go to the lock screen, I briefly see the last screen I was in before the phone went into sleep mode. Total lack of QA in my opinion... Will a rom fix this?
And yes Man of La Mancha, the iphone would get somewhat glitchy, but a reboot always took care of it. I didn't really have to reboot it too often, maybe once every 2 weeks or so.

HTXg2x said:
Oh, forgot to mention when I hit the power button to wake the phone and go to the lock screen, I briefly see the last screen I was in before the phone went into sleep mode. Total lack of QA in my opinion... Will a rom fix this?
And yes Man of La Mancha, the iphone would get somewhat glitchy, but a reboot always took care of it. I didn't really have to reboot it too often, maybe once every 2 weeks or so.
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The lockscreen issue is a known bug. CM7, or any ROM with 2.3.4+ doesn't have that problem.