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[Q] New Inspire User with Stupid Questions

Howdy, folks. Hope I can rely on your feedback regarding a few Inspire related questions, because your answers will determine whether I bring it back or not.
For the record, I'm experienced with HSPL, MAGLDR and have been flashing ROMs since my Kaiser. However, I’m new to Android and only have experience working with DL’s DesireZ on my HD2.
Account Questions:
I picked up an Inspire today for $50 on an upgrade with 2 year commitment. I’ve been off contract for better than three years, but in the process the rep at the AT&T store told me I’d lose my $15/month unlimited MEdiaNet option and they migrated me to a $15/month 200MB data plan. Though I have never yet used more than 200MB per month, I worry about what happens the one month I go over. I’ve seen reports from some users here that they were allowed/able to have their old plans grandfathered. What would you say my chances are of calling AT&T and telling them to restore my MN account and grandfather me? Who should I talk to, or am I just kidding myself?
Stock ROM Questions:
Ok, so no secrets that the AT&T stock ROM is full of crap, and have the following problems:
I can’t run Titanium Backup because the ROM isn’t rooted. I see a couple rooting options, but if you can recommend which option is best and why, that would be helpful.
Android Market shows AT&T apps, rather than 'my installed apps'. How do I fix that?
If I’m able to root and use my (licensed) copy of TiBu, can’t that remove some of the ROM stuff by using the ‘Chuck Norris’ mode? If so, is it possible to incorporate an application in the ROM in its place as long as it fits?
Is there a ROM out there that replicates (identically) the stock ROM but removes the branding and market app issues?
Flashing Questions:
I’m no stranger to HSPL and MAGLDR, having installed it on my HD2. But if I can’t find a ROM that works for me and decide to return the phone, how can I restore the handset to the factory state so I don’t get a raft of $hit from them or void my warranty if I need to send it in for service? In other words, for WM, all I need to do is to reflash a factory ROM from SD. Is there a similar deal here?

BillTheCat said:
Howdy, folks. Hope I can rely on your feedback regarding a few Inspire related questions, because your answers will determine whether I bring it back or not.
For the record, I'm experienced with HSPL, MAGLDR and have been flashing ROMs since my Kaiser. However, I’m new to Android and only have experience working with DL’s DesireZ on my HD2.
Account Questions:
I picked up an Inspire today for $50 on an upgrade with 2 year commitment. I’ve been off contract for better than three years, but in the process the rep at the AT&T store told me I’d lose my $15/month unlimited MEdiaNet option and they migrated me to a $15/month 200MB data plan. Though I have never yet used more than 200MB per month, I worry about what happens the one month I go over. I’ve seen reports from some users here that they were allowed/able to have their old plans grandfathered. What would you say my chances are of calling AT&T and telling them to restore my MN account and grandfather me? Who should I talk to, or am I just kidding myself?
Stock ROM Questions:
Ok, so no secrets that the AT&T stock ROM is full of crap, and have the following problems:
I can’t run Titanium Backup because the ROM isn’t rooted. I see a couple rooting options, but if you can recommend which option is best and why, that would be helpful.
Android Market shows AT&T apps, rather than 'my installed apps'. How do I fix that?
If I’m able to root and use my (licensed) copy of TiBu, can’t that remove some of the ROM stuff by using the ‘Chuck Norris’ mode? If so, is it possible to incorporate an application in the ROM in its place as long as it fits?
Is there a ROM out there that replicates (identically) the stock ROM but removes the branding and market app issues?
Flashing Questions:
I’m no stranger to HSPL and MAGLDR, having installed it on my HD2. But if I can’t find a ROM that works for me and decide to return the phone, how can I restore the handset to the factory state so I don’t get a raft of $hit from them or void my warranty if I need to send it in for service? In other words, for WM, all I need to do is to reflash a factory ROM from SD. Is there a similar deal here?
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Well first of all welcome to the Inspire.
Well first of all I have rooted 4 inspires with the inspire hack kit. I think it is the best method. If you root there are many att stock rooted roms with all the bloat removed. There are also gingerbread sense roms ready to go. ATT wont even release these roms for another year. If you want your apps att dont list just put you phone in airplane mod and turn on wifi to get them. I use right at 2gb per month. If you are always on wifi you should be ok. I would start on the 2gb plan then downgrade if needed. I used 200mb in 4 days.
If you have other questions just send me a pm.

And on another note, I was on a $30/month MediaNET/unlimited messaging plan that was lost when they did the upgrade. I called and did a little *****ing and they opened a case with the department that has the ability to put it back on (which I think is BS, as others have said managers have put it back on the spot for them). But anyway, about 8 days later I got a text saying my case had been resolved. They put me on a $30 unlimited plan, and $20 unlimited text plan. So it's a little more pricey, but that wasn't what I was worried about, I wanted my unlimited data back.

I've had unlimited since way back in 2008, during my iPhone days. I didn't have to call and ***** and moan about it until they gave it back, they actually gave me the regular unlimited data that works with the inspire when I switched from iPhone to inspire. Will come in mighty handy due to my modded apn for hotspot capabilities. Anyway, the only way you could get unlimited data now is if you called in and asked. It would be $30/mth, no txts included. Hope I helped in a small way at least!

Welcome to the inspire forums!
BillTheCat said:
I can’t run Titanium Backup because the ROM isn’t rooted. I see a couple rooting options, but if you can recommend which option is best and why, that would be helpful.
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Personally, through all the threads and videos on the web it seems to be a consensus that the hack kit is the most complete step by step process that yields consistent results. I researched with the youtube videos and even tried to use the GUI, but it failed to push the img to my phone, so I ended up using the hack kit anyway.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
I'm not sure which gold-card method the hack kit currently uses, but it is most likely a good idea just to replace those first steps with the Gold Card Maker that nelify came up with.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970157
Aside from that, just follow the hack kit's steps to a standard s-off rooted stock ROM. From there, I recommend flashing any ROM that uses the inspire as a base (ClearDroid or TPC come to mind first, though I haven't used them).
BillTheCat said:
Android Market shows AT&T apps, rather than 'my installed apps'. How do I fix that?
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You could get another version of the market app perhaps... but generally this is something that would change using almost any other ROM.
BillTheCat said:
If I’m able to root and use my (licensed) copy of TiBu, can’t that remove some of the ROM stuff by using the ‘Chuck Norris’ mode? If so, is it possible to incorporate an application in the ROM in its place as long as it fits?
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Yes, but depending on what you want to remove you may want to be careful.
BillTheCat said:
Is there a ROM out there that replicates (identically) the stock ROM but removes the branding and market app issues?
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Check ClearDroid , or This thread

gflare said:
Yes, but depending on what you want to remove you may want to be careful...
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Thanks for the feedback. I was able to successfully create a gold card and unlocked and flashed REMix 5.3, and am very happy with it.
I would like to understand a bit more about how to remove some of the built-in apps and replace them with another of my liking. Is there a guide for how to do that?

Potentially HUGE BUYER'S REMORSE!?

Hey guys and gals, Please advise.
I've been a Sprint customer for 2 years my contract is up. Had an HTC hero which was an amazing phone considering it's age.
I bought 2 VM phones; the optimus V for the wife, and the Motorola Triumph for me. Owneed them both for 12 hours and I'm a bit concerned.
I've rooted them both and removed some bloat. I looked online and see nothing but praise for the optimus V and the MT looks like a lemon based on reviews! I noticed some lag on the touchscreen (I tried to ignore it but the killer is the GPS, the optimus found location in 5 seconds, and the MT was still searching after 5 minutes.
Should I return this thing? Is it a software problem or hardware? Will a custom ROM help?
Please tell me if i should exchange it for the optimus.

Had the same feeling back in August when I purchased the phone. Do yourself a favor and install CM7. You will notice an insane difference; it’s more like owning an entirely different phone. That thing they call an operating system that’s installed out of the box is an insult to both the user and the phones hardware which is actually very good. It took me a few weeks to get the guts to install the Rom but it came to either that or throw the thing in the Delaware. Now a days you could not rip the device from my cold dead hands. I use the TG reloaded build and if you’re not familiar with Roms CM7 is for the most part the closest thing you can get to striate up Google's Gingerbread with a few tweaks and no Virgin Bloatware. Anyhow with the correct software the Triumph is a beast and runs circles around some of my friends higher end phones using their stock Roms. Also, the processor used on the Triumph is used in other devices as a 1.4g processors, including a few tablets so don’t be afraid to crank it up a notch or two. Also the TG Reloaded edition uses a 64 MHz minimum frequency when idle compared to the 246 MHz minimum used in the stock Rom, literally doubles the battery life.

Yes, give the CM7 TG-Reloaded ROM a try. The Motorola Triumph is based on Huawei Ideos X6 reference design, which is sold as different variants world-wide. The hardware is very capable, but either the Motorola people or those responsible for getting it to work on VM were very sloppy, so all the bugs in stock ROM. Most have been addressed in CM7, but still some remain.
As for the better battery life, the 61 mhz low freq helps only a little, other factors include less junk running in the background, battery-optimized interactive governor, and wakelock bugs in the stock kernel that prevent phone from entering deep sleep mode (common, but hard to track problem on a lot of Android phones).

I love my MT running miui [email protected] there's a agps fix somewhere on this site. I personal don't have any issues with this phone
Sent from my Motorola Triumph using Tapatalk

Thanks for the replies.
I agree that CM7 makes this phone waaaayyy smoother than stock. I still get an occasional lag on the touchscreen and the 4 "buttons" on the bottom are sometimes unresponsive; but this thing is awesome. The only reason the Optimus V is more popular is because it's cheaper. The MT is sexy :^)
The thing I miss from my HTC Hero was the ease of wireless tethering. I didn't really use it much, but it was nice to know I could run any piece of hardware without any mods.
Does the CM7 TG reloaded ROM have an OC kernel built in or do I need to flash one?

Bruce777 said:
Thanks for the replies.
I agree that CM7 makes this phone waaaayyy smoother than stock. I still get an occasional lag on the touchscreen and the 4 "buttons" on the bottom are sometimes unresponsive; but this thing is awesome. The only reason the Optimus V is more popular is because it's cheaper. The MT is sexy :^)
The thing I miss from my HTC Hero was the ease of wireless tethering. I didn't really use it much, but it was nice to know I could run any piece of hardware without any mods.
Does the CM7 TG reloaded ROM have an OC kernel built in or do I need to flash one?
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I may be close to fixing the touchscreen issue, it bugs me too. CM7 allows built-in wireless tethering, and you can add it to be a quick toggle in the notification bar, along with other options. OC kernel is built-in, check out the first post on the ROM thread to read up about all the features.

Whyzor said:
I may be close to fixing the touchscreen issue, it bugs me too. CM7 allows built-in wireless tethering, and you can add it to be a quick toggle in the notification bar, along with other options. OC kernel is built-in, check out the first post on the ROM thread to read up about all the features.
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Needless to say I NO longer have buyers remorse!
Yes, I saw the wireless tethering options...I tried multiple time to initialize it, but my laptop would not connect. Any threads you could send me to? (yes I did look in the ROM thread :^)
thanks

Bruce777 said:
Needless to say I NO longer have buyers remorse!
Yes, I saw the wireless tethering options...I tried multiple time to initialize it, but my laptop would not connect. Any threads you could send me to? (yes I did look in the ROM thread :^)
thanks
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The first few times I tried to connect it may take a long time for the client (PC) to recognize and go through to the internet, give it a few minutes & try to refresh a webpage. It works for me & others.

Bruce777 said:
Needless to say I NO longer have buyers remorse!
Yes, I saw the wireless tethering options...I tried multiple time to initialize it, but my laptop would not connect. Any threads you could send me to? (yes I did look in the ROM thread :^)
thanks
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Wireless tethering worked fine for me when I tested it (only tried it to make sure it worked). I didn't have to do anything special to make it work.

Whyzor said:
The first few times I tried to connect it may take a long time for the client (PC) to recognize and go through to the internet, give it a few minutes & try to refresh a webpage. It works for me & others.
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I was really excited when you said the CM7 native wifi tether worked...but I couldn't get it to
I even factory reset and wiped everything to make sure it was a fresh attempt. Still nothing. Both my PC and Hp touchpad can find the signal but neither connect/keep the connection. After attempting the connection (and saying it's connected for around 3 seconds) the touchpad will no longer reads the wifi signal.
Any threads on this for me to research? I looked to no avail.

Bruce777 said:
I was really excited when you said the CM7 native wifi tether worked...but I couldn't get it to
I even factory reset and wiped everything to make sure it was a fresh attempt. Still nothing. Both my PC and Hp touchpad can find the signal but neither connect/keep the connection. After attempting the connection (and saying it's connected for around 3 seconds) the touchpad will no longer reads the wifi signal.
Any threads on this for me to research? I looked to no avail.
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Nevermind, I just tried wireless tether for root users, after about 10 attempts with the native app, and it works! Better to be lucky than good.
Now...has anyone had any luck getting Sprint visual voicemail to work on this thing? :^) Mine half works , I can compose messages to myself but any calls wont actually work.
thanks again for the replies people. We SHOULDN'T be in 'low activity" section

Bruce777 said:
Nevermind, I just tried wireless tether for root users, after about 10 attempts with the native app, and it works! Better to be lucky than good.
Now...has anyone had any luck getting Sprint visual voicemail to work on this thing? :^) Mine half works , I can compose messages to myself but any calls wont actually work.
thanks again for the replies people. We SHOULDN'T be in 'low activity" section
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VM doesn't support 3rd party Voicemails so getting a visual one may not work... You can ask VM about it and see if they can let you but it may just be a network thing with them...
And the MT is in a low activity section because no one is here there all at android forums...

Triumph has a few hardware issues that won't go away, like GPS and touch response puking randomly.
Also while CM7 does bring extra functionality, it is less stable than stock.
Optimus V is basically the only solid prepaid phone on VM.
Hopefully Sprint learned their lesson to not rebrand POS phones and instead, use existing phones that have proven themselves. We will likely see much better phones by end of 2012 based on what was said at CES '12, so just hang tight.

wonshikee said:
Triumph has a few hardware issues that won't go away, like GPS and touch response puking randomly.
Also while CM7 does bring extra functionality, it is less stable than stock.
Optimus V is basically the only solid prepaid phone on VM.
Hopefully Sprint learned their lesson to not rebrand POS phones and instead, use existing phones that have proven themselves. We will likely see much better phones by end of 2012 based on what was said at CES '12, so just hang tight.
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Yea... by the end of 2012, well its the beginning right now and if they don't start getting newer phones, I may have to switch to another company... I heard Straight Talk is getting the LG Optimus 2X so that may be incentive enough for me. VM needs to get a dual core and not just keep bringing in more and more phones that have 600mhz or 800mhz processors with 3 inch screens...

marc12868 said:
Yea... by the end of 2012, well its the beginning right now and if they don't start getting newer phones, I may have to switch to another company... I heard Straight Talk is getting the LG Optimus 2X so that may be incentive enough for me. VM needs to get a dual core and not just keep bringing in more and more phones that have 600mhz or 800mhz processors with 3 inch screens...
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Yeah that phone looks really promising, but ST is expensive - paying $25 on VM vs $45 for ST, unless you need the higher end plan on VM anyway.
If you're willing to go high end, you can grab a Nexus/GS2 and use it on tmobile's prepaid instead, it's what I'm doing current with TMO's $30/mo plan.

wonshikee said:
Yeah that phone looks really promising, but ST is expensive - paying $25 on VM vs $45 for ST, unless you need the higher end plan on VM anyway.
If you're willing to go high end, you can grab a Nexus/GS2 and use it on tmobile's prepaid instead, it's what I'm doing current with TMO's $30/mo plan.
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So with TMO's prepaid you can use any TMO phone then?

marc12868 said:
So with TMO's prepaid you can use any TMO phone then?
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That's what I've heard. If you buy a used/unlocked TMO phone, you can get the TMO activation kit for something like $7 ( it's just a SIM ) and put it in your phone and your good.
This is what I'm thinking about doing myself. I get ok coverage with VM on my LGOV, but not great.
My wife has a TMO Exhibit2-4g and it's a great phone and the service is good as well. She's on the $50/month plan, I'll opt for the $30 I think.

dwcasey said:
That's what I've heard. If you buy a used/unlocked TMO phone, you can get the TMO activation kit for something like $7 ( it's just a SIM ) and put it in your phone and your good.
This is what I'm thinking about doing myself. I get ok coverage with VM on my LGOV, but not great.
My wife has a TMO Exhibit2-4g and it's a great phone and the service is good as well. She's on the $50/month plan, I'll opt for the $30 I think.
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Yea I did some looking and youbcan use any t-mo phone. I'm thinking Akita switching over too. $30 for 5gb of 4g and unlimited texting is good deal. I don't even talk on the phone for minutes to matter lol. Vm service is just starting to annoy me :/

i had both of these phones! i liked the V better. but the MT was newer and bigger so went to that. but still have the V.

[Q] tethering and my htc and att?

Hello, can someone help me with something. I rooted my htc inspire a few months back. I did not change the room just left it as is. I am now trying to tethering my accer a500 to my htc inspire. I have tried the hot spot and also tried to hook cable to tablet from phone. when i try hot spot it turns on then turns off says i need to call att.
I am wondering do i have to flash phone with a differnet rom inorder to use those functions. or is their a way around the issue. Sorry for my lack of knowing lol. i am looking but I have not found a newbie guid covering this. I am asuming i do need to flash phone with custom rom but wanted to make sure.

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I guess should of added more info. I have rooted my phone a long while back. I did not flash a custom Rom to my phone. I am running the Rom the phone came with just rooted. Thanks again for any help someone will be able to give. I am still reading the fourms just guess not understanding. From what I am getting if I want hot spot to work or tethering to work I need to flash my phone with a custom Rom.

a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.

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Lol sorry but you really think I didn't do that like a month ago. Really I have read and re-read every topic even close to covering this topic. One topic saying yes you can the next saying it didn't work. Figured would find someone nice enough to say yes you can do it, and here is the topic area to look. Thank you for the link
Update, followed your link and it went no were. Google free tethering again and came up with the same thing. Someone saying they have a way to make it work. Then a bunch of posts after that with people saying it worked for a bit but not now. I'm just looking to see if it can be done, what has and has not worked and if I am right and I need a custom Rom.

I use EasyTether Pro, don't know if its safe, but I have been using it for almost 2 years on 2 different phones, and haven't been stuck with a higher bill yet
Sent from my Inspire 4G

I tether my HP Touchpad about an hour a day and have never got hit with the email from AT&T.
Sent from my HTC Inspire using Tapatalk

thanks for the info
Was wondering do you guys use the cable, or set up a WiFi way. I don't plan on doing any downloading I use a program that looks up info for me on the net. Maybe some Facebook on the night ****. Once again thanks for the help with this very cool.

I dont have to DD an app to use hotspot because my dev built it in, which most roms do... but if you must stick with your stock rom... (thumbs down)
I used "open garden" wifi tether on a few different phones requiring that functionality. Its one of the best out there IMHO
P.S. If you like the stock feel and stability? of your stock rom, but are ready to open your phone up to a brand new life...
My suggestion for a jump off point(ROM) is 'COREDROID'! I dont rock it anymore, but it was imo the best, next very close runner up would be 'AndroidRevolution'...
Both of those have built in hotspot, plus a WAYYY faster UI than stock. Just My Opinion. good luck!

I have never tried to tether using stock rom, however almost all custom roms I have used have the ability to tether. Maybe try a custom rom, I like IceColdSandwich v 4.2. Good luck!

Thank u very much that was what I was really looking for. I will start looking for custom Rom that might work for me. I really need to learn how to back up the Rom I have so I can save it so I can flash it back to phone if need be. Thanks again all for all the help with this.

Start by looking for a recovery like "cwm recovery"... within the Inspire forums. Follow the directions exactly and read them ALL first, then reread them before flashing. Once youve achieved a recovery, you'll have opened yourself up to try ROMS i.e.Try coredroid for a few days then perform a backup of coredroid, then flash AR and run that for a few days.
As it seems in your OP, youre kinda used to a stock ROM and both of those are based on stock, with enhancements, and bloatware removed... MUCH FASTER and responsive.
So just start with one thing at a time - Recovery Time!!!
p.s. once youve installed your recovery, you should backup your current config before going to the next step - ROM!!! Practice good backup skills, and you'll limit your headaches considerably.

hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.

gage0727 said:
hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.
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as for backup between ROMs the two major ones are Titanium Backup and MyBackup

Darunion said:
a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.
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I used the EasyTether app a few times around last Christmas. Today I got the email from AT&T about tethering. So I guess now we can't use EasyTether?

I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.

struff said:
I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.
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no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol

Darunion said:
no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol
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*I* know that. But she apparently doesn't. She told me that ANY time ANYTHING is plugged into the phone now counts as tethering. Even if NO apps are being used. I know better than to believe that lol.
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Sucks for EasyTether and PDANet users

This seems a good place to ask. Of course, the ref with whom I spoke claims that their system is flawless, but is there anyone here who kows AT&Ts systems that can speak as to the reliability of their inspection system?
The reason I ask, I was informed that "the data connection from your phone was opened to another device several times within the past 2 months." I used it once, I'm afraid that something looks like tethering to their system, and I'll end up with a more expensive capped plan rather than my unlimited plan (truth is that I've only gone over 3 GB once of which I'm aware, I just don't like the concept of caps.... or more cost).

I finaly put a custom rom on my phone and was able to hotspot and tether my phone to my laptop. Only used it to load one page of xda just to see if it worked or not. I never got a text meassage or phone call or anything. I also use a bunch of bandwidth on a daily bases. e-mail, web games and such. I had to re-lock my phone sending it to htc to get repaired, when i get it back it will be re rooted and custom rom and tethered again. Will let you know what happens then. lol

They will constantly improve the system. the more people that find ways around it the more they will invest in closing the holes. they didnt used to have the ability to see but more and more is pointing to packet inspection and TTL's on them to see if theres another device behind the phone. it's not just an apn setting anymore. it's best either to not tether and breach contract or just pay the $15 a month and use it. Getting around it now, could change next week or a month or tomorrow. companies will do what they can to protect their services from being taken advantage of, and with the number of users that are stealing tethering data, that is a considerable cost. do i think its fair that i need to pay $15 to connect my pc to phone for just a picture here and there, no, but the consumer always wants everything for free.

Help Needed. FAST, LATEST, SIMPLE, NO BLOATWARE ROM SGS - SCH-I535

I have SGS3 - SCH-I535.
I have already made a mistake of flashinga Wrong ROM and Hard Bricking it. Sending it to Repair - JTAG and now, I got the Stock ROM 4.0.4 on my SGS3 after 10 Hours. Just because of a small File,
So basically, I do not want to make my life hell once again.
I want someone to suggest me some good ROM. But I have simple requirements.
1. Simple, Clean, no Bloatware, or Extra crap, from Verizon or Samsung.
2. FAST FAST FAST FAAAAAAAST
3. IN BUILT WIFI TETHERING APP, - I have Unl.Data Plan. So I want to use it, for tethering on my ipad.
4. Please suggest me a Link or a Thread or a Site.
P.S: My Phone is just like, out of hte box when it was first released with Verizon around 2 Years back. No Rooting, No updates or Nothing.
SINCE I ALREAD F'ed up once, I don't want to take the same risk once again. So, kindly need the guidance of the experts, who have been using LATEST GREATEST SUPER FAST ROMS.
I will be using my Verizon Unlimited Data Plan SIM card and my Straight Talk 1 Year T-Mobile SIM Card in this Phone.
With Straight Talk, I will get only 2G speeds. But, thats OK. I will move my Verizon Unl. SIM to my Jetpack, and I get 4G LTE Speeds via Wifi.
Si kindly help me guys. Thank You for Your interest.

qzmpal said:
I have SGS3 - SCH-I535.
I have already made a mistake of flashinga Wrong ROM and Hard Bricking it. Sending it to Repair - JTAG and now, I got the Stock ROM 4.0.4 on my SGS3 after 10 Hours. Just because of a small File,
So basically, I do not want to make my life hell once again.
I want someone to suggest me some good ROM. But I have simple requirements.
1. Simple, Clean, no Bloatware, or Extra crap, from Verizon or Samsung.
2. FAST FAST FAST FAAAAAAAST
3. IN BUILT WIFI TETHERING APP, - I have Unl.Data Plan. So I want to use it, for tethering on my ipad.
4. Please suggest me a Link or a Thread or a Site.
P.S: My Phone is just like, out of hte box when it was first released with Verizon around 2 Years back. No Rooting, No updates or Nothing.
SINCE I ALREAD F'ed up once, I don't want to take the same risk once again. So, kindly need the guidance of the experts, who have been using LATEST GREATEST SUPER FAST ROMS.
I will be using my Verizon Unlimited Data Plan SIM card and my Straight Talk 1 Year T-Mobile SIM Card in this Phone.
With Straight Talk, I will get only 2G speeds. But, thats OK. I will move my Verizon Unl. SIM to my Jetpack, and I get 4G LTE Speeds via Wifi.
Si kindly help me guys. Thank You for Your interest.
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We don't do suggestions as some of the immature members of the community will turn it to a debate. I will also add that not all people have the same experience with each ROM.

ok, i just tried the most roms out there for my 3 smartphones (live with walkman, Xperia S and SGS3 LTE I9305 ) and i found this
CM roms is the most clear an good enough to make u live happy and im using it on the live with walkman but; personally i liked the stock in the SGS3 and Xperia because of the camera app .. the stock rom have best camera app and make the camera work better even if u install any app it will have the same bad pics in the CM..
anyways ... thanks for @cyanogen team for there hard work
press THANKS if i helped

These kinds of threads are not generally allowed on XDA for the simple reason that they tend to turn into arguments. I will close this thread, but also leave you with this suggestion:
READ, READ, READ! Everything you wish to do is outlined within these forums, tried and tested by the members. Follow the instructions prayed and you should be fine, but keep in mind no one but yourself is responsible for any damages dine by following the methods listed.
Each device reacts differently, as does each user's experience, so experiment a little and see what works best for you.

[Q] Advice and Options

Hey everyone, just looking for advice mainly.
I just recently bought my M8 as I retired my DNA which I ran ViperDNA for the past couple of years. I am still on a grandfathered unlimited plan, thus the reason for creating a thread. I haven't been in depth with androids in quite a while. I simply rooted and rom'd my DNA, and left things.
A little background - obviously I have the M8 and unlimited data. I also have a macbook pro, and my old windows 7 laptop died out on me. And finally, I am not the most code savvy anymore and wish to keep things simple.
What I am looking for from my new phone is pretty simple. I am perfectly fine with most things stock on it. All I would really like to do is remove the tethering block, and possibly delete a bit of the bloatware that came with it.
From my reading, it looks like I need to root to be able to tether. If I root without flashing a custom rom, am I still able to update when they hit verizon? Will simply rooting my phone give me the options to remove bloatware?
If not, what other options do I have? I am passed the point of wanting to wipe my phone from time to time to update and such. I tend to keep everything on it, and it gets old having to re-personalize it to my liking.
Thanks in advance for any help.

I would say a good choice is root/unlock and install the Viper ROM for the verizon M8. This ROM will do OTA updates as they come out and does not require you to re-personalize. I have been running this ROM for several months now and have had no issues. Great solid ROM.

HollywoodTate said:
Hey everyone, just looking for advice mainly.
I just recently bought my M8 as I retired my DNA which I ran ViperDNA for the past couple of years. I am still on a grandfathered unlimited plan, thus the reason for creating a thread. I haven't been in depth with androids in quite a while. I simply rooted and rom'd my DNA, and left things.
A little background - obviously I have the M8 and unlimited data. I also have a macbook pro, and my old windows 7 laptop died out on me. And finally, I am not the most code savvy anymore and wish to keep things simple.
What I am looking for from my new phone is pretty simple. I am perfectly fine with most things stock on it. All I would really like to do is remove the tethering block, and possibly delete a bit of the bloatware that came with it.
From my reading, it looks like I need to root to be able to tether. If I root without flashing a custom rom, am I still able to update when they hit verizon? Will simply rooting my phone give me the options to remove bloatware?
If not, what other options do I have? I am passed the point of wanting to wipe my phone from time to time to update and such. I tend to keep everything on it, and it gets old having to re-personalize it to my liking.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Just root won't stop ota's but do you want to keep root? There are certain apps that you can use from the play store for tethering that say they get around needing the paid service for tethering. I have used them in the past but i like the native tether app my phone didnt seem to get as hot. Honestly never tried any on my m8 rooted and soff since aquirering the phone. If your not interested in flashing want ota and root.. Might want to root and soff.
See that the last post offered viper ROM good ROM allows what you want.

From having had Viper previously, I will say I loved it. But at the same time, there was still a bit of flashing to do and that is not what I am looking for at the moment. As for the apps to use to get my tether working, nothing that I know of will allow wifi tethering without root.
So I guess my question at this time is am I able to just simply root my phone to do all that I have mentioned above without flashing a rom? Are there other steps I need to take to reach my goals? I am fine with the stock rom. I just dislike bloatware, need the wifi tethering, and would also not mind to have the battery saver app that comes stock but is hidden.
Thanks for the suggestions so far.

Well, you can use Weaksauce to root only, the question is if you will keep root through the next OTA update. Nobody will know until you try it....
Just rooting will not allow you uninstall apps on the /system partition. You need to be S-off for that. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but that is my current understanding of S-on on this device......
There is a way to tether without root: it's the paid version of FoxFi. Not the most elegant solution from what I'm reading, but it works.
But you know, I think you would get everything you desire by getting S-off, flashing a custom recovery and then CleanROM. It's strictly debloated, perm-rooted stock. Clean, simple and stable.
And when the next OTA comes out, you can bet that Scott will put out a CleanROM version of it in no time. Why is that harder than taking an OTA?
It just involves downloading a file and flashing it in recovery..

I'm curious to see the outcome of the OP. I recently came back to Android from using an iPhone for over a year. I went to the iPhone because I was tired of roming and never being content with the device performance. There was always bugs, updates or new kernel. Now that I'm back I'm getting the root itch again but really want to refrain of tinking with it and going through that downward spiral again. I love the stock look and would like to deploy maybe try a asop rom or two.
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I like clean ROM also.... It is kept up-to-date very well... The good stuff worth having in an ota is usually offered by most devs very quickly. I don't know what was needed on your DNA to root and unlock for custom recovery but the m8 process is really quite easy (if you have a PC) lol.
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ddgarcia05 said:
I'm curious to see the outcome of the OP. I recently came back to Android from using an iPhone for over a year. I went to the iPhone because I was tired of roming and never being content with the device performance. There was always bugs, updates or new kernel. Now that I'm back I'm getting the root itch again but really want to refrain of tinking with it and going through that downward spiral again. I love the stock look and would like to deploy maybe try a asop rom or two.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Maybe a gpe ROM? Lol so may choices. The problem with to root or not to root is that its an option now but what if an ota patches the exploit allowing the root? Then you don't have an option except to wait for another exploit if you didn't root and soff your device. If you ask me I would rather have the control to make that decision and not be forced into one. You never know when an update includes a patch for known exploit(s). Just my opinion.

ddgarcia05 said:
I'm curious to see the outcome of the OP. I recently came back to Android from using an iPhone for over a year. I went to the iPhone because I was tired of roming and never being content with the device performance. There was always bugs, updates or new kernel. Now that I'm back I'm getting the root itch again but really want to refrain of tinking with it and going through that downward spiral again. I love the stock look and would like to deploy maybe try a asop rom or two.
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No spiral with CleanROM. Check out the thread. It's pretty boring - which is good! Because there are no bugs (unless introduced by users flashing something on top of the rom), it works just as good as stock, battery is great.... Flash and forget....
thunderbls said:
I like clean ROM also.... It is kept up-to-date very well... The good stuff worth having in an ota is usually offered by most devs very quickly. I don't know what was needed on your DNA to root and unlock for custom recovery but the m8 process is really quite easy (if you have a PC) lol.
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Maybe a gpe ROM? Lol so may choices. The problem with to root or not to root is that its an option now but what if an ota patches the exploit allowing the root? Then you don't have an option except to wait for another exploit if you didn't root and soff your device. If you ask me I would rather have the control to make that decision and not be forced into one. You never know when an update includes a patch for known exploit(s). Just my opinion.
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Exactly right! It seems to be getting harder and harder to find exploits for root, S-off etc. Anybody think it'll get easier with Android L??? I don't.
You can always flash back to stock, but you never know if the next update won't lock it down for months - or longer....

Rather than removing the bloat, I'd use something like Titanium Backup to just freeze it. I can't say for sure about this phone but my last phone was a Razr Maxx. With that phone, if any of the bloat was removed, the update would fail. If you just froze the apps, you could always unfreeze them, then run the update.