Howdy, folks. Hope I can rely on your feedback regarding a few Inspire related questions, because your answers will determine whether I bring it back or not.
For the record, I'm experienced with HSPL, MAGLDR and have been flashing ROMs since my Kaiser. However, I’m new to Android and only have experience working with DL’s DesireZ on my HD2.
Account Questions:
I picked up an Inspire today for $50 on an upgrade with 2 year commitment. I’ve been off contract for better than three years, but in the process the rep at the AT&T store told me I’d lose my $15/month unlimited MEdiaNet option and they migrated me to a $15/month 200MB data plan. Though I have never yet used more than 200MB per month, I worry about what happens the one month I go over. I’ve seen reports from some users here that they were allowed/able to have their old plans grandfathered. What would you say my chances are of calling AT&T and telling them to restore my MN account and grandfather me? Who should I talk to, or am I just kidding myself?
Stock ROM Questions:
Ok, so no secrets that the AT&T stock ROM is full of crap, and have the following problems:
I can’t run Titanium Backup because the ROM isn’t rooted. I see a couple rooting options, but if you can recommend which option is best and why, that would be helpful.
Android Market shows AT&T apps, rather than 'my installed apps'. How do I fix that?
If I’m able to root and use my (licensed) copy of TiBu, can’t that remove some of the ROM stuff by using the ‘Chuck Norris’ mode? If so, is it possible to incorporate an application in the ROM in its place as long as it fits?
Is there a ROM out there that replicates (identically) the stock ROM but removes the branding and market app issues?
Flashing Questions:
I’m no stranger to HSPL and MAGLDR, having installed it on my HD2. But if I can’t find a ROM that works for me and decide to return the phone, how can I restore the handset to the factory state so I don’t get a raft of $hit from them or void my warranty if I need to send it in for service? In other words, for WM, all I need to do is to reflash a factory ROM from SD. Is there a similar deal here?
BillTheCat said:
Howdy, folks. Hope I can rely on your feedback regarding a few Inspire related questions, because your answers will determine whether I bring it back or not.
For the record, I'm experienced with HSPL, MAGLDR and have been flashing ROMs since my Kaiser. However, I’m new to Android and only have experience working with DL’s DesireZ on my HD2.
Account Questions:
I picked up an Inspire today for $50 on an upgrade with 2 year commitment. I’ve been off contract for better than three years, but in the process the rep at the AT&T store told me I’d lose my $15/month unlimited MEdiaNet option and they migrated me to a $15/month 200MB data plan. Though I have never yet used more than 200MB per month, I worry about what happens the one month I go over. I’ve seen reports from some users here that they were allowed/able to have their old plans grandfathered. What would you say my chances are of calling AT&T and telling them to restore my MN account and grandfather me? Who should I talk to, or am I just kidding myself?
Stock ROM Questions:
Ok, so no secrets that the AT&T stock ROM is full of crap, and have the following problems:
I can’t run Titanium Backup because the ROM isn’t rooted. I see a couple rooting options, but if you can recommend which option is best and why, that would be helpful.
Android Market shows AT&T apps, rather than 'my installed apps'. How do I fix that?
If I’m able to root and use my (licensed) copy of TiBu, can’t that remove some of the ROM stuff by using the ‘Chuck Norris’ mode? If so, is it possible to incorporate an application in the ROM in its place as long as it fits?
Is there a ROM out there that replicates (identically) the stock ROM but removes the branding and market app issues?
Flashing Questions:
I’m no stranger to HSPL and MAGLDR, having installed it on my HD2. But if I can’t find a ROM that works for me and decide to return the phone, how can I restore the handset to the factory state so I don’t get a raft of $hit from them or void my warranty if I need to send it in for service? In other words, for WM, all I need to do is to reflash a factory ROM from SD. Is there a similar deal here?
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Well first of all welcome to the Inspire.
Well first of all I have rooted 4 inspires with the inspire hack kit. I think it is the best method. If you root there are many att stock rooted roms with all the bloat removed. There are also gingerbread sense roms ready to go. ATT wont even release these roms for another year. If you want your apps att dont list just put you phone in airplane mod and turn on wifi to get them. I use right at 2gb per month. If you are always on wifi you should be ok. I would start on the 2gb plan then downgrade if needed. I used 200mb in 4 days.
If you have other questions just send me a pm.
And on another note, I was on a $30/month MediaNET/unlimited messaging plan that was lost when they did the upgrade. I called and did a little *****ing and they opened a case with the department that has the ability to put it back on (which I think is BS, as others have said managers have put it back on the spot for them). But anyway, about 8 days later I got a text saying my case had been resolved. They put me on a $30 unlimited plan, and $20 unlimited text plan. So it's a little more pricey, but that wasn't what I was worried about, I wanted my unlimited data back.
I've had unlimited since way back in 2008, during my iPhone days. I didn't have to call and ***** and moan about it until they gave it back, they actually gave me the regular unlimited data that works with the inspire when I switched from iPhone to inspire. Will come in mighty handy due to my modded apn for hotspot capabilities. Anyway, the only way you could get unlimited data now is if you called in and asked. It would be $30/mth, no txts included. Hope I helped in a small way at least!
Welcome to the inspire forums!
BillTheCat said:
I can’t run Titanium Backup because the ROM isn’t rooted. I see a couple rooting options, but if you can recommend which option is best and why, that would be helpful.
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Personally, through all the threads and videos on the web it seems to be a consensus that the hack kit is the most complete step by step process that yields consistent results. I researched with the youtube videos and even tried to use the GUI, but it failed to push the img to my phone, so I ended up using the hack kit anyway.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952352
I'm not sure which gold-card method the hack kit currently uses, but it is most likely a good idea just to replace those first steps with the Gold Card Maker that nelify came up with.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970157
Aside from that, just follow the hack kit's steps to a standard s-off rooted stock ROM. From there, I recommend flashing any ROM that uses the inspire as a base (ClearDroid or TPC come to mind first, though I haven't used them).
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Android Market shows AT&T apps, rather than 'my installed apps'. How do I fix that?
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You could get another version of the market app perhaps... but generally this is something that would change using almost any other ROM.
BillTheCat said:
If I’m able to root and use my (licensed) copy of TiBu, can’t that remove some of the ROM stuff by using the ‘Chuck Norris’ mode? If so, is it possible to incorporate an application in the ROM in its place as long as it fits?
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Yes, but depending on what you want to remove you may want to be careful.
BillTheCat said:
Is there a ROM out there that replicates (identically) the stock ROM but removes the branding and market app issues?
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Check ClearDroid , or This thread
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Yes, but depending on what you want to remove you may want to be careful...
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Thanks for the feedback. I was able to successfully create a gold card and unlocked and flashed REMix 5.3, and am very happy with it.
I would like to understand a bit more about how to remove some of the built-in apps and replace them with another of my liking. Is there a guide for how to do that?
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I just purchased Samsung Captivate and is missing PC Internet option. Is there any way to bring it back?
I noticed that too, so I rooted my phone and side loaded a wifi tether app, you can find the link in one the stickes for faq's about the captivate. Of course the next step would be to load a custom rom like Cognition or Auxura. I'm running Auxura right now and it's pretty awesome. Hopefully this helps!
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I noticed that too, so I rooted my phone and side loaded a wifi tether app, you can find the link in one the stickes for faq's about the captivate. Of course the next step would be to load a custom rom like Cognition or Auxura. I'm running Auxura right now and it's pretty awesome. Hopefully this helps!
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This is absolutely one of the top five posts I've seen on the net and the best one on xda.
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Thank you for the reply, I will try to root my phone.
Which method of rooting do you recommend?
This is my first android phone, so to learn about it and what's going on in it I used the update.zip that just roots it. Did everything to it piece by piece until I got comfortable with it. I don't like those one in all wonder drugs that people made. I learned doing it myself.
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I just now got the update from JH6 to JH7, and this option is now missing from the USB selection screen!!
With the UK USB drivers, my PC was happy chugging along through 3g on my captivate with rather impressive transfer rates -- I canceled my land line internet connection it was so good! I'm really not interested in rooting the phone, as I feel very comfortable with the level of consistency I've been having compared to other horror stories. My GPS is even decent the majority of the time.
My question -- is there a way to revert back to JH6 without loosing all of my data? Or better yet, another way to gain back the tether without root?
I believe PDAnet will let you tether without root. Look in the market or google it. Flashing back to JH6 via ODIN is the only way to go back, and you will have to reinstall what you don't backup.
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I just now got the update from JH6 to JH7, and this option is now missing from the USB selection screen!!
With the UK USB drivers, my PC was happy chugging along through 3g on my captivate with rather impressive transfer rates -- I canceled my land line internet connection it was so good! I'm really not interested in rooting the phone, as I feel very comfortable with the level of consistency I've been having compared to other horror stories. My GPS is even decent the majority of the time.
My question -- is there a way to revert back to JH6 without loosing all of my data? Or better yet, another way to gain back the tether without root?
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Just a word of advice to keep an eye on your data usage. I'm assuming you are on AT&T, and if you are just now getting the update, you are probably on a 2gb data plan. If that's enough to get you by on your home pc, that's awesome.
A great program for this is 3g Watchdog, free on the market.
Luckily I'm grandfathered in a corporate plan, and only the iphone data plan has the limited use services. With the android phone, I'm still on unlimited data.
PDAnet is not available on the market, at least not from the Market app on the captivate, perhaps it may need to be side-loaded?
It really sucks that the market pulled ryans OCLF because that was TRULY the easiest way to root period. You could flash the leak as it has everything you need to tether.
EDIT: seems I need to catch up, the easiest way in the world to root is back on the market, RyansOCLF, pay the 1.99 its worth it, even if you dont use the lag fix you can root 2.1 in 2.1 secs.
Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers
shakeyourmatt said:
Hello all,
new user...this place rocks...and so do you all..etc etc
I was just wondering how they (USCC) know if I root my phone or not?
It's almost like they beg us to void the warranty by not giving any updates or accurate release info....could that be apart of the big plan? Lure us into this excellent online community...(which quite possibly could be an average idiots downfall)?
Couldn't I just load up the stock everything, and they would never know?
cheers
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Depending on what you do they can't. If you have Froyo then obviously you have loaded unofficial software and they could see that. Otherwise I am not sure what you mean by load up on stock everything. If you did that on Eclair then I am not sure why you would want to root to begin with.
all you have to do, no matter what you flash to, is use Odin and you can go back to stock 2.1. even if you where using the fryoy leak with custom boot animations and all kinds of other mods...as long as you can boot in download mode you can go backto the way this phone was right out of the box
As of now this is only possible for mesmerize users, showcase has no 2.1 odin.
Swyped from my Mesmerize
Actually, I doubt USCC even checks. When you take your phone if for warranty, they just send it to the manufacturer and if the manufacturer (samsung) says that it's not warranty worthy then it isn't. At least that's how it worked for my TouchPro.. But all root does is add some files to the system. If you remove those two files it's like your phone was never rooted.
If you only rooted & it's stock firmware, hit the menu key while you're on the home screen then hit settings>factory data reset (THIS DOES NOT TOUCH DATA ON YOUR SD CARD). No way for them to know then. Make sure you have all your data backed up onto your SD card before doing this.
I've actually taken my phone in to the USCC shop a couple of times, the store manager thinks mine is so much better than his because of the theme and density and stuff. He asked me how it was so fast and I told him it was a secret
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they CAN see if you are rooted and you can take that to the bank. but because of a certain thing called the Bill of Rights they can not do anything with the information.
ya know when you download apps and it warns you about how it can collect data?
well every single carrier in the world CAN see EXACTLY what you have on your phone with regards to Firmware and Kernel.... that is a 100% guarentee. i know for a fact they can.
it is the EXACT same way that the network knows if your phone needs an update.
it pings your phone and requests firmware information. if its old it tells you there is an update, if not, it doesnt.
on my old EVO if you were running a non stock firmware, or even one that was modified you would not be told of updates because the network knows your not on a stock rom. the phone sends the servers information it doesnt recognize in regards to what you are running, or it sends info that the servers have listed as not eligible for upgrades and it denies you the upgrade.
now, JUST rooting, thats a little different. it needs more info than just "what firmware do you have Mr. Phone?"
but i can guarentee you that the phone IS sending data to the carriers about what it is running.
Hello, can someone help me with something. I rooted my htc inspire a few months back. I did not change the room just left it as is. I am now trying to tethering my accer a500 to my htc inspire. I have tried the hot spot and also tried to hook cable to tablet from phone. when i try hot spot it turns on then turns off says i need to call att.
I am wondering do i have to flash phone with a differnet rom inorder to use those functions. or is their a way around the issue. Sorry for my lack of knowing lol. i am looking but I have not found a newbie guid covering this. I am asuming i do need to flash phone with custom rom but wanted to make sure.
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I guess should of added more info. I have rooted my phone a long while back. I did not flash a custom Rom to my phone. I am running the Rom the phone came with just rooted. Thanks again for any help someone will be able to give. I am still reading the fourms just guess not understanding. From what I am getting if I want hot spot to work or tethering to work I need to flash my phone with a custom Rom.
a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.
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Lol sorry but you really think I didn't do that like a month ago. Really I have read and re-read every topic even close to covering this topic. One topic saying yes you can the next saying it didn't work. Figured would find someone nice enough to say yes you can do it, and here is the topic area to look. Thank you for the link
Update, followed your link and it went no were. Google free tethering again and came up with the same thing. Someone saying they have a way to make it work. Then a bunch of posts after that with people saying it worked for a bit but not now. I'm just looking to see if it can be done, what has and has not worked and if I am right and I need a custom Rom.
I use EasyTether Pro, don't know if its safe, but I have been using it for almost 2 years on 2 different phones, and haven't been stuck with a higher bill yet
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I tether my HP Touchpad about an hour a day and have never got hit with the email from AT&T.
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thanks for the info
Was wondering do you guys use the cable, or set up a WiFi way. I don't plan on doing any downloading I use a program that looks up info for me on the net. Maybe some Facebook on the night ****. Once again thanks for the help with this very cool.
I dont have to DD an app to use hotspot because my dev built it in, which most roms do... but if you must stick with your stock rom... (thumbs down)
I used "open garden" wifi tether on a few different phones requiring that functionality. Its one of the best out there IMHO
P.S. If you like the stock feel and stability? of your stock rom, but are ready to open your phone up to a brand new life...
My suggestion for a jump off point(ROM) is 'COREDROID'! I dont rock it anymore, but it was imo the best, next very close runner up would be 'AndroidRevolution'...
Both of those have built in hotspot, plus a WAYYY faster UI than stock. Just My Opinion. good luck!
I have never tried to tether using stock rom, however almost all custom roms I have used have the ability to tether. Maybe try a custom rom, I like IceColdSandwich v 4.2. Good luck!
Thank u very much that was what I was really looking for. I will start looking for custom Rom that might work for me. I really need to learn how to back up the Rom I have so I can save it so I can flash it back to phone if need be. Thanks again all for all the help with this.
Start by looking for a recovery like "cwm recovery"... within the Inspire forums. Follow the directions exactly and read them ALL first, then reread them before flashing. Once youve achieved a recovery, you'll have opened yourself up to try ROMS i.e.Try coredroid for a few days then perform a backup of coredroid, then flash AR and run that for a few days.
As it seems in your OP, youre kinda used to a stock ROM and both of those are based on stock, with enhancements, and bloatware removed... MUCH FASTER and responsive.
So just start with one thing at a time - Recovery Time!!!
p.s. once youve installed your recovery, you should backup your current config before going to the next step - ROM!!! Practice good backup skills, and you'll limit your headaches considerably.
hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.
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hello, thank you all for your replies. I am really wanting to move up to custom roms. Prob is I do not know how to back up my current rom, and how to check it to make sure its good. I am looking for the info and what app to use to get the best back up file. i want to be sure I know how to back up and also how to go back to the back up if need be before I move forward. If someone knows of a guide to do that stuff or has any good information could you pm me please. thanks a bunch for the help.
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as for backup between ROMs the two major ones are Titanium Backup and MyBackup
Darunion said:
a 30second search of putting 'free tether htc inspire' into google would have given you the answer you need. This has been asked over and over and over. You are technically breaching your agreement and if you get caught that is on you. Here is a link in the market for a simple to use app. Next time please search before making threads.
https://market.android.com/details?...EwOSwiY29tLm1zdHJlYW0uZWFzeXRldGhlcl9iZXRhIl0.
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I used the EasyTether app a few times around last Christmas. Today I got the email from AT&T about tethering. So I guess now we can't use EasyTether?
I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.
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I went to my local store yesterday and had a rep examine my phone to be sure there was no way I could tether. She noted it in my account. Today I got a txt msg saying I was tethering. So I called the 866 number in the msg and the phone rep told me they can now tell any time a computer or any other device is plugged into the phone and any time a tethering app is used. So according to her logic, we can't even use our computers to charge our phones.
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no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol
Darunion said:
no, she means they can detect the tethering. not the connection itself. u can still charge and xfer files and sync lol
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*I* know that. But she apparently doesn't. She told me that ANY time ANYTHING is plugged into the phone now counts as tethering. Even if NO apps are being used. I know better than to believe that lol.
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Sucks for EasyTether and PDANet users
This seems a good place to ask. Of course, the ref with whom I spoke claims that their system is flawless, but is there anyone here who kows AT&Ts systems that can speak as to the reliability of their inspection system?
The reason I ask, I was informed that "the data connection from your phone was opened to another device several times within the past 2 months." I used it once, I'm afraid that something looks like tethering to their system, and I'll end up with a more expensive capped plan rather than my unlimited plan (truth is that I've only gone over 3 GB once of which I'm aware, I just don't like the concept of caps.... or more cost).
I finaly put a custom rom on my phone and was able to hotspot and tether my phone to my laptop. Only used it to load one page of xda just to see if it worked or not. I never got a text meassage or phone call or anything. I also use a bunch of bandwidth on a daily bases. e-mail, web games and such. I had to re-lock my phone sending it to htc to get repaired, when i get it back it will be re rooted and custom rom and tethered again. Will let you know what happens then. lol
They will constantly improve the system. the more people that find ways around it the more they will invest in closing the holes. they didnt used to have the ability to see but more and more is pointing to packet inspection and TTL's on them to see if theres another device behind the phone. it's not just an apn setting anymore. it's best either to not tether and breach contract or just pay the $15 a month and use it. Getting around it now, could change next week or a month or tomorrow. companies will do what they can to protect their services from being taken advantage of, and with the number of users that are stealing tethering data, that is a considerable cost. do i think its fair that i need to pay $15 to connect my pc to phone for just a picture here and there, no, but the consumer always wants everything for free.
Hello. Since this is my 1st post as "M4TGS" few words about me: I'm new MT4GS owner and new Android user, coming from WinMo world (been using PocketPCs since WinMo 2003 SE) so if something sounds noobish please forgive me, I haven't had Android phone before (or linux on my PCs).
Please correct me if/where I'm wrong.
My phone is:
LOCKED
S-ON
HBOOT-1.45.0013
with T-Mobile's ROM full of useless junk (I knew that would be the case when I bought it, I had WinMo phones from T-Mo before and they always were loaded with garbage, which I always flashed with modded ROMs, I don't know why I just assumed all Android phones are easy to root and flash shouldve done some reading here first...)
So, after reading a lot of threads here today it seems that:
1 - I cannot change my ROM (due to S-ON and bootloader version that hasn't been cracked yet), is that correct?
2 - I cannot get rid of T-Mobile's junk from my stock rom either, because even if I use the "temp-perma-SuperUser" method, delete the "bloatware" apk, the bootloader will do crc check on next boot and restore them all again, is that correct?
3 - Assuming I understood 1 and 2 correctly, is there a way to stop the "bloatware" from starting at boot? For WinMo 6.x we had few different utilities that basically work on the phone similar to batch scripts on Windows, and a lot of automation could be achieved with those; if there is something like this for Android could it be automated to stop some of the bloatware and remove their shortcuts from menu at every boot?
(i.e. T-Mobile's-specific apps such as "My Account" or "Visual Voicemail", specially the latter bugs me the most because my canadian provider Wind doesn't have Visual voicemail and I can't just tap on "voicemail" without being nagged to enable visual voicemail every time I tap on voicemail in notifications, its so annoying)
4 - How on earth do I make videocalls with this phone and ROM? (yes I searched forum for that and found "Qik" which is not what I'm asking about - I can install i.e. Skype and it'll serve me better than this Qik)
On my last WinMo phone I just tapped the "camera" icon in the phone app and it did videocall using data connection. I can't find anything like it (nor anything pointing to videocall or datacall) on this phone, what am I missing?
Any answers appreciated, TIA!
Well ill just start by saying 1 is wrong so you might want to do some more reading chief, i didnt get through the rest of your post yet just wanted to say your first thought is wrong
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Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
MT4GS said:
Thanks. It seems like you're right, as I just found in post from yesterday:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657414
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Couldnt tell ya man, maybe it does it by gmail addresses? I never use my ffc, i have a iTurd for facetime thats it. My android is my pocket PC lol so mostly all text based things
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"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
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"iTurd" lol certain Steve blowjobs must be screaming in his grave for such sacrilege!
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I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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strapped365 said:
I couldnt pass a pair of brand new 4th gens for 2 hundred man, only reason they were bought is because i dont live with my 2 year old daughter so we facetime when i dont see her
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Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
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Man, seems like same case here, my sonny is bit older than your dottie, but he too lives with his mother... that's my only reason for videocall need in this phone
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Yeah hmm maybe find a friend that has a phone with a ffc and video call and see if once you add all the info to the address book it gives you the option to video call. I would say google talk has video call but its trash. Then again you might have to use a 3rd party app like qik, thats what comes stock right
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I know exactly what you mean. I came over to this phone about 2 months ago from a Touch Pro 2. Boy the difference is figuring out how to get around the security on it.
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware.
You'll still be S-on, but will be able to flash any custom ROM you want, you just have to push the kernel separately through ADB instead of in a nice neat package.
Yes HappyKhicken it seems much more work to customize it than it was with any Windows Mobile. Not that it would discourage me its just an observation.
I'm still reading around, I have just found out about the "wire trick" to make radio S-OFF, so I want to learn as much as possible before I do anything other than hard reset.
Since you also had TP2 can you explain to me how do you make a videocall here?
I can't figure out how to make videocall at all
If you remember in WinMo (well, depending on ROM and dialer canvas version you had of course) when you tap phone there was the icon that looked like one of those old Logitech round webcams, when you tap this icon it switched to "videocall" to the person you were dialing, and if this person didn't have video capability it switch back to "voice". Can't find anything like this here.
Also probably stupid question: is it possible to restore unlocked/s-off phone back to being locked with s-on and full of junk stock rom? (in case I would need to send it back to htc for warranty repair or replacement, I don't have T-Mobile's option with Asurion insurance since I'm not their customer and I'm in Canada)
thx
HappyKhicken said:
Anyway, just use HTC's unlock tool assuming you are on the newest software version. If you're not, then update to the newest. This will allow you to flash custom ROMs. Flash Clockworkmod recovery. Then just flash superuser through it. This will give you root and the ability to delete the bloatware..
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OK. I bit the bullet, went to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1532809
run the HTC unlock, and now my bootloader says ***UNLOCKED***
(this was easy-peasy, just somehow no one mentioned in htc unlock tool thread - or I didn't notice it - that an account on htcdev is needed, but I made some quick fake email acct and registered there with it, hopefully I won't need it again? I just realized I didn't save any info for these accts lol)
So, next step would be to flash recovery - either CWM or "Stock 1.55" as there are these 2 to choose from at fifth step on HTC Unlock Tool.
What are the difference between these two?
If I flash one of them now, can I flash the other one later?
I'm not going to flash any new ROM yet, I need to get accustomed to Android first, but I would want to get rid of some bloatware and T-Mobile-specific apps that came with stock ROM since I'm not on T-Mobile. I know I need to flash CWM or Stock Recovery to gain root access, but I don't know which one should I choose / what are the major difference / advantages / disadvantages ?
MT4GS said:
What about my question 4 (videocalls)?
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Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
Fuzi0719 said:
Skype works very well on this phone. I've done videochat with a few friends, one of them using another Android, the other friend on an iPhone 4S. We were using Skype since that is a common software for us. Oh, I forgot, I also did Skype video chat using my MT4GS to another friend in Turkey, he was using his laptop. Great thing about Skype is it works on 4G or Wi-Fi (I have unlimited 4G data so I don't worry about it).
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Thanks. Yeah, I installed Skype from Google Play (I think Android Market was better name) and indeed it works great. I think sound quality is way better than Skype for Window Mobile, maybe it is better than 'regular voicecall' too, or so it seems.
But it came to me clear now, and I can't believe it, but despite most of Android 'smartphones' having front cameras, the OS itself doesn't have videocall capability built-in, am I correct?
It's kinda let down if true? because AFAIR even my old TyTN II (thats ancient 2007 model) and every other WinMo smartphone with front camera I had after that also had videocall built-in right there in the dialer
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
thenpaxtongoes said:
Good god it took me two days to realize I needed to reenable usb debugging after the bootloader unlocked. AJSNFLASKDA
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OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
MT4GS said:
OK... care to explain more, specially that you post the same comment in other thread (so I guess it is either important or spam)...
I'm sure I'm not the only noob to this phone and Android OS in general, so:
Why does the usb port need to be in debug mode and how do I start it if it is necessary?
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To do many adb functions the device must be in debug mode.
The usb port itself isn't in debug mode, rather the whole device is.
In a very technical sense, a ROM is not 'polished' or 'finished' if it releases with usb debugging enabled - but I released mine that way because I use it so very often.
The setting is in:
Settings - Applications - Development
Sent from a digital distance.
Thank you Blue6IX for excellent explanation and thenpaxtongoes for the reminder
Now to root my unlocked phone:
volume down + power, to go into hboot, plug in usb, fire up HTC Unlocker Tool and install CWM or Stock recovery, but do I need to change on my phone's hboot menu screen down to Recovery first or do I keep it at default Fastboot to install one of the Recoveries?
Another question is which recovery to install? It seems CWM is the one to go with but what are the advantages/disadvantages of CWM vs Stock 1.55 recovery? TIA
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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What I find the easiest to do is just use something like My Backup Pro or Titanium Backup to "freeze" the things I don't want, usually those things from T-Mobile or HTC that startup in the background but I never use. Like the Group Messaging stuff (there are 3 processes associated with that, I freeze all 3), the SWM-C process, T-Mobile ID (a caller-ID type thing you have to pay for). Yes, they still take up storage space but that is negligible, by freezing them they no longer are taking up processing/battery time.
MT4GS said:
RESURRECTING an old thread
I have just rooted my MT4GS and I want to get rid of some of the stock T-Mo apps.
There was a thread here I read half a year ago with a list of apps that can be safely deleted, but I just spend good 30min trying to find it... I guess it was a post in some unrelated thread or such.
I want all the T-Mobile-specific apps gone (and yes I did backup on SD card with clockwork recovery). :cyclops: Can someone point me in right direction?
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Here is the original thread that was started a long time ago. I have still found it useful on occassion. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1222672&highlight=bloat
I have SGS3 - SCH-I535.
I have already made a mistake of flashinga Wrong ROM and Hard Bricking it. Sending it to Repair - JTAG and now, I got the Stock ROM 4.0.4 on my SGS3 after 10 Hours. Just because of a small File,
So basically, I do not want to make my life hell once again.
I want someone to suggest me some good ROM. But I have simple requirements.
1. Simple, Clean, no Bloatware, or Extra crap, from Verizon or Samsung.
2. FAST FAST FAST FAAAAAAAST
3. IN BUILT WIFI TETHERING APP, - I have Unl.Data Plan. So I want to use it, for tethering on my ipad.
4. Please suggest me a Link or a Thread or a Site.
P.S: My Phone is just like, out of hte box when it was first released with Verizon around 2 Years back. No Rooting, No updates or Nothing.
SINCE I ALREAD F'ed up once, I don't want to take the same risk once again. So, kindly need the guidance of the experts, who have been using LATEST GREATEST SUPER FAST ROMS.
I will be using my Verizon Unlimited Data Plan SIM card and my Straight Talk 1 Year T-Mobile SIM Card in this Phone.
With Straight Talk, I will get only 2G speeds. But, thats OK. I will move my Verizon Unl. SIM to my Jetpack, and I get 4G LTE Speeds via Wifi.
Si kindly help me guys. Thank You for Your interest.
qzmpal said:
I have SGS3 - SCH-I535.
I have already made a mistake of flashinga Wrong ROM and Hard Bricking it. Sending it to Repair - JTAG and now, I got the Stock ROM 4.0.4 on my SGS3 after 10 Hours. Just because of a small File,
So basically, I do not want to make my life hell once again.
I want someone to suggest me some good ROM. But I have simple requirements.
1. Simple, Clean, no Bloatware, or Extra crap, from Verizon or Samsung.
2. FAST FAST FAST FAAAAAAAST
3. IN BUILT WIFI TETHERING APP, - I have Unl.Data Plan. So I want to use it, for tethering on my ipad.
4. Please suggest me a Link or a Thread or a Site.
P.S: My Phone is just like, out of hte box when it was first released with Verizon around 2 Years back. No Rooting, No updates or Nothing.
SINCE I ALREAD F'ed up once, I don't want to take the same risk once again. So, kindly need the guidance of the experts, who have been using LATEST GREATEST SUPER FAST ROMS.
I will be using my Verizon Unlimited Data Plan SIM card and my Straight Talk 1 Year T-Mobile SIM Card in this Phone.
With Straight Talk, I will get only 2G speeds. But, thats OK. I will move my Verizon Unl. SIM to my Jetpack, and I get 4G LTE Speeds via Wifi.
Si kindly help me guys. Thank You for Your interest.
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We don't do suggestions as some of the immature members of the community will turn it to a debate. I will also add that not all people have the same experience with each ROM.
ok, i just tried the most roms out there for my 3 smartphones (live with walkman, Xperia S and SGS3 LTE I9305 ) and i found this
CM roms is the most clear an good enough to make u live happy and im using it on the live with walkman but; personally i liked the stock in the SGS3 and Xperia because of the camera app .. the stock rom have best camera app and make the camera work better even if u install any app it will have the same bad pics in the CM..
anyways ... thanks for @cyanogen team for there hard work
press THANKS if i helped
These kinds of threads are not generally allowed on XDA for the simple reason that they tend to turn into arguments. I will close this thread, but also leave you with this suggestion:
READ, READ, READ! Everything you wish to do is outlined within these forums, tried and tested by the members. Follow the instructions prayed and you should be fine, but keep in mind no one but yourself is responsible for any damages dine by following the methods listed.
Each device reacts differently, as does each user's experience, so experiment a little and see what works best for you.