Well I was thinking of flashing a new radio to match the rom im using. I just need help to know how are the way the phone can be bricked. or what happens if you flash an unmatched radio
There is no such thing as unmatched radio. It might not work as well as supplied radio, but it should still work. General conception is that latest radio is always the best, you just need to flash RIL which matches the radio to ensure maximum compatibility. Be very careful with flashing radios as this is the easiest way to brick. The safest way IMHO is to flash via adb.
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So I tried to update to the latest Radio for ATT. I was getting a 2Mb up connection.
I tried getting the RIL for this as well via
http://www.megaupload.com/?f=YCU9JUCT
Once I flashed the RIL I'm lucky to get .55Mb up
Is there a way to remove the RIL? I've looked around and have yet to find a way. I've tried reflashing the radio and downgrading the the stock one...which got me 1Mb-ish. And then putting back on the newest ATT radio.
Help please!
Terrold said:
So I tried to update to the latest Radio for ATT. I was getting a 2Mb up connection.
I tried getting the RIL for this as well via
http://www.megaupload.com/?f=YCU9JUCT
Once I flashed the RIL I'm lucky to get .55Mb up
Is there a way to remove the RIL? I've looked around and have yet to find a way. I've tried reflashing the radio and downgrading the the stock one...which got me 1Mb-ish. And then putting back on the newest ATT radio.
Help please!
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The RIL is flashed separately from the radio. Typically you will get the best connections by having a matched set. If you want the newest radio and RIL for AT&T, click the top link in my sig and go to the second post. It has them in one zip file you can extract.
So run the radio as a PD98IMG through hboot and then flash the RIL? Just wanna make sure I'm doing it correctly.
Edit: So I went to the link and answered my own question. Thanks!
So I had the problem where I was not provided a locked APN. I chose menu and reset to default and it gave me the stock att one. And my speeds are worse then before.
Run a nandroid backup, then flash attn1's pd98img ROM. see if that changes anything.
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Terrold said:
So run the radio as a PD98IMG through hboot and then flash the RIL? Just wanna make sure I'm doing it correctly.
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Yep, easy as pie. I would recommend reading up on radios before you flash them. Sometimes the newest one isn't the best performing.
Yeah I'm back to stock. I couldn't find one that was recommended for cm7. And I get 3down and like 1.5 up or so. Can't complain. Its all a learning experience though.
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Hi,
I have just recently acquired my first android device - a Sensation.
I have followed the guides on here and have got s-off and have been flashing roms.
Wow! This is all totally up my street and I love it - thanks to all the devs and people here who are making this possible!!
but I do have a quick question....
Im wondering what happens when I flash a new radio and kernal.
I know the radio is the bit that connects to the network etc and that the kernal is the bit that provied the core of the operating system but what happens if I flash new ones on top of an existing rom and then revert back to a nandroid backup or if I perform a full wipe and then flash a new rom? Am I stuck with the new radio and kernal or are they both replaced with the new rom?
thanks!
Nat.
Traffik said:
Hi,
I have just recently acquired my first android device - a Sensation.
I have followed the guides on here and have got s-off and have been flashing roms.
Wow! This is all totally up my street and I love it - thanks to all the devs and people here who are making this possible!!
but I do have a quick question....
Im wondering what happens when I flash a new radio and kernal.
I know the radio is the bit that connects to the network etc and that the kernal is the bit that provied the core of the operating system but what happens if I flash new ones on top of an existing rom and then revert back to a nandroid backup or if I perform a full wipe and then flash a new rom? Am I stuck with the new radio and kernal or are they both replaced with the new rom?
thanks!
Nat.
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Some ROMs include a custom kernel. Otherwise they use stock. They don't include radios. If you flash a ROM the kernel gets flashed too. If you want to use a different kernel you flash that after flashing a ROM. If you restore from recovery your ROM and kernel go back to what you backed up.
You flash radios apart from ROMs. Flashing ROMs does not change your radio. Radios also control wifi, bluetooth, GPS.
Ok great thanks for clearing that up!
I'm not 100% clued up on this whole radio thing though.... I have read that they are region specific yet some roms recommend you to update to a specific radio. I am worried that once I start fiddling with these radios I will end up screwing the performance of my phone.
I have also read that there is a higher risk of bricking your phone when flashing a radio which puts me off a bit.
And finally, how can I backup the radio I have now so that I can go back if needed?
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Anyone?
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You can't back the radio up but there is a Radio thread which has all the radios in it to download
Traffik said:
Ok great thanks for clearing that up!
I'm not 100% clued up on this whole radio thing though.... I have read that they are region specific yet some roms recommend you to update to a specific radio. I am worried that once I start fiddling with these radios I will end up screwing the performance of my phone.
I have also read that there is a higher risk of bricking your phone when flashing a radio which puts me off a bit.
And finally, how can I backup the radio I have now so that I can go back if needed?
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Yes flashing a radio can be risky because a failure there can brick it. As long a you get a radio for the Sensation, do the md5 checksum, and don't pull the battery while flashing, it should not brick it. A bricked phone is almost always accomplished by someone not reading and following directions correctly.
Flashing radios and kernels are for more advanced/power users. Most of the time you are probably fine with your current radio and if you have no issues there is no reason to have to do it.
Flashing ROMs is much safer and is usually all you need to turn your phone into a beast.
Thanks!
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Hello everyone,
I am new to androids and have rooted and s-off'd my phone, new kernel, etc...
My question is, what is the "radio"? I keep getting asked what radio am I running... I just reply "what ever came with it" lol...
Can someone explain to me what the radio is that they are referring to and is there a different one I should/could run?
MTIA!
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Radio file is essentially your baseband configuration, the heart of all wireless communication on the device.
If something bad happens when flashing the radio, or the radio is not correct for the device, bricking the phone beyond any recovery is the usual end result.
Great information... Thank you, Blue!
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Blue6IX said:
Radio file is essentially your baseband configuration, the heart of all wireless communication on the device.
If something bad happens when flashing the radio, or the radio is not correct for the device, bricking the phone beyond any recovery is the usual end result.
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Thanks Blue!
So where would we look to see what version of the radio we are running?
Col.Kernel said:
Thanks Blue!
So where would we look to see what version of the radio we are running?
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Boot into Hboot. It's right there at the Hboot menu, 4th or 5th line down in green at the top.
( Boot to Hboot by turning off fastboot in settings: power: uncheck at the bottom of the menu. Then power off the phone, hold down the volume down key and press power - sometimes have to press power twice while holding the volume down key. - for anyone just tuning in. )
You can also check your RADIO version by going to
settings: about phone: software information: more: and then look under baseband version for it.
People often confuse a ROM and a RADIO, and they aren't the same - though some ROMs will include a new RADIO.
The RADIO and Radio Interface Libraries (RIL) have to match up or your phone will be in a very bad way, so if the RIL is not compatible with the RADIO ugly things will happen.
Generally speaking you should avoid flashing a RADIO if possible, and it should be a last resort to fix communications problems with the phone.
Flashing a ROM which includes a RADIO is okay, but make sure it's a decent ROM and be careful being a tester for a brand new developer with a ROM that includes a RADIO file.
If you flash a new RADIO, or a ROM that includes a RADIO, absolutely make sure you have at the very least 50% battery, but full charge is highly, highly recommended.
Do not interrupt the flashing process while flashing a new RADIO, and good advice would be to just leave the phone alone to do it's thing and just don't touch it while flashing. (you should do that anyway, though)
Wow, Blue, you are loaded with great information!
Thanks for the tips!
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The radio and ril don't HAVE to match up although it is recommended. I messed with radios up the yin yang on my hd2 and mt4g. It is recommended.
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I'm thinking about upgrading my Thunderbolt from CM 7.1.1 to one of the Liquid ICS ROMs found on this board. I have a few reservations so I want to do this right. I know enough to be dangerous but I'm far from an expert so any help is appreciated.
First, what I did to get to where I am: I went from a Stock Gingerbread HTC Sense ROM to CM 7.1.1 following this how-to: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Thunderbolt:_Full_Update_Guide
To my knowledge, I've never flashed any radios and following that guide worked perfectly. The ROM is a little buggy but not bad. For the most part it works brilliantly and I love it.
However, as I said, I'd like to try Liquid ICS and my understanding is it requires you flash a radio. What I want to do is ensure that I can do a full Nandroid backup now so that in case I'm not a fan, I'm able to restore back.
Presumably that would involve flashing the radio that I'm currently using and then restoring from the Nandroid backup. Is that right?
If so, how do I find the current radio file? My baseband version looks odd to me, but maybe it isn't. It's listed as "1.39.00.0627r,0.01.69.0625r". The comma (seemingly separating two version #s?) is what is throwing me off.
Anyway, I really want to try ICS but I just want a method to get back to my current state if need be. How can I accomplish this?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Find the 605.19 radio and flash in the bootloader by renaming it PG05IMG.zip. The file has to be on the root of your sd card for the bootloader to detect the radio. To go back to your old radio just download the one you had and flash it in the same manner. Radios aren't as simple to change back to as a Rom but once you know how to flash a radio its easy enough. Just remember to check the md5 sum of your radio after you download it and before you flash it. It will brick your phone if you flash a bad radio. Always rename the radio after you flash it or move it to another directory so that if you need to go into the bootloader it doesn't try to run the update again.
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So my assumptions were correct. I need to flash the 605.19 radio to get to Liquid ICS.
How do I know which radio I have now? How do I find it? And the Nandroid restore will work after flashing back to the old radio?
street9009 said:
So my assumptions were correct. I need to flash the 605.19 radio to get to Liquid ICS.
How do I know which radio I have now? How do I find it? And the Nandroid restore will work after flashing back to the old radio?
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You don't have to use that radio... It's only advised. If you want to flash liquid ics then go for it. If you have some data issues then try flashing the new radio. Make a nand of your current Rom of course in case there is something that you just can't stand. I would say that if the radio you are using now works fine for you then it should still work fine.
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Ah gotcha. But still just in case- how do I find the radio file for what I currently have in case I do have to/wish to flash the 605.19 radio?
street9009 said:
Ah gotcha. But still just in case- how do I find the radio file for what I currently have in case I do have to/wish to flash the 605.19 radio?
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Hit settings, about phone, radio version is under "baseband."
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Honestly I would recommend .9 radio or .19 anything else is just crap.
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My baseband is listed as "1.39.00.0627r,0.01.69.0625r". What does that mean?
Holy crap..... That is the first radio put on this phone ROFL. If you had any issues with data that could be it. Download the 605.19 and try it. Heres a link with all the radios.
http://forums.infectedrom.com/showt...rbolt-Radios-Collection-778-Radio-Modem-Tweak
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I'm not having any issues with data. I'm just asking in case I want to go back to what I have and the 605.19 *doesn't* work with what I have. What I have is working perfectly.
Yep you can always go back. Just download that radio and flash it the way I posted earlier. I don't know if you will have problems with your current radio but I imagine you're going to have data drops with them and liquid ics. They fixed the ril using the .19 radios so they seem to work better.
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Makes sense. Okay, one last question- looking at the link you posted, it looks like I have two radios (at least it's two separate files on that link). Am I losing my mind?
No. They can be packaged together or separate. They can even be mixed or matched. It's usually better to use the same two though. If you do go back you will have to flash each one of those radios to get it back the way you are now. That is unless you can find someone that knows how to combine the two in a zip.
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So if I want both back- I can flash one zip and then the other and it'll have both?
street9009 said:
So if I want both back can flash one zip and then the other and it'll have both?
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Yea. Just remember to change the name of the zip before going back to the bootloader so that you don't try flafhing the same one again.
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Much appreciated! Think I'm gonna give it a shot.
I am on stock T-Mobile rom:
Android version 4.0.4
HTC Sense version 4.1
Software number 2.35.531.7 710RD
HTC SDK API level 4.23
HTC Extension version HTCExtension_403_1_GA_20
Kernel version [email protected]#1
Baseband version 1.08ts.50.02.16_10.08e.50.04L
Build number 2.35.531.7 CL96068 release-keys
Browser verion WebKit/534.30
I want to flash a new radio since the version I have the signal keeps dropping and I cannot flash any radio. I am rooted, I go to TWRP and successfully flash a different radio but when I check the settings again it still say 1.08ts. I even tried an older RUU but it keeps failing. I do not want to flash another countries RUU since I'm afraid it will brick it.
Is there away to change just the radio?
There is a universal radio flasher in the dev section.
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bstylz911 said:
There is a universal radio flasher
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..but you have to be on a low hboot (1.06 or 1.09) or s-off for that. On sense ROMs anyway.
so that means I would have to wait until a newer RUU comes out?
princeferoz said:
so that means I would have to wait until a newer RUU comes out?
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I would S-Off the device and then flash the radio installer.
That way you can quickly and easily try a bunch of different radios.
what rom are you on
when you say ck settings, are you talking about Phone/Settings/About Phone
i would have to re-read the OPs on the cm and sense radio installer, but thought with them you could be on a higher hboot, since radio is put into system partition and bypasses htc restrictions. may be wrong--
i did some reading but no time to read all. you need to read them for yourself. talking about the cm and sense radio installer threads
my understanding is with cm rom and cm radio installer you can flash radio if above .09 hboot. it puts radio in system
with sense it puts it to phone. but there was a temporary installer that put it into system and could be used with higher hboots.
don't know if that installer is still available for dl from tecardo
some reading and a nandroid advised as i have no time to read both threads
princeferoz said:
so that means I would have to wait until a newer RUU comes out?
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Just s off. Its not as hard as it looks.
I'm on hboot 1.14 and s offed. Glad I did
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Thanks for all your help. I was able to get S-Off and flashed a new radio but the radio still keeps fluctuating.
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Thanks for all your help. I was able to get S-Off and flashed a new radio but the radio still keeps fluctuating.
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am pretty sure you flashed the radio properly the first time but fail to check radio version on fastboot since it doesn't show correct radio on settings>"about phone" (known bug)
the radio flashed properly and it shows the correct radio in settings but the signal still fluctuates.