Xperia Arc and Desire S are in the same price - General Questions and Answers

Hahaha lmao I know, unbelievable
Obviously the Arc is better hardware-wise (minus RAMs) .. I'm not sure what to buy though. I freakin' hate Sony Ericsson's UI (Everything about it, launcher, menu, dock, icons, status bar, dialer etc) and there is no Cyanogenmod or any other Vanilla android rom for it. I'd have to settle for lousy launchers, so if I ignored the software I would have a bigger screen and a bigger camera
Desire S has every type of ROM (Cyanogen, Hydrogyn, Revolution, Vitrorous etc) and a beautiful original user interface.
So it's more of a software vs. hardware thingy, they're both Android but there is UI differences. What would you do if you were in my place?

Nex_1 said:
I freakin' hate Sony Ericsson's UI (Everything about it, launcher, menu, dock, icons, status bar, dialer etc)
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Quite a lot of S.E users do, but a bit of modding here, bit of modding there and you can have a sweet looking U.I.

Hmm, is it possible to have the Vanilla Gingerbread interface (maybe a white status bar?)
It looks interesting though, I checked the Green Glow theme on your signature and it's fantastic .. Is it the only theme available or there are more?

I'd go for the desire s. Which is exactly what I did! Havn't looked back since. Great phone
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HTC Desire S here.

I believe it's a more deep question than hardware vs. software. I think of htc as an premium smartphone brand, and the quality of its devices one step above the rest. It's a bit like having a GT-R and a Ferrari, both are fast as hell, both are good looking (i prefer the design of the Arc tbh), but the ferrari will be a head turner more than the gtr even if more expensive (this was said before i checked the specs)
They're the same price so i'd go with the Desire S, the Arc it's gorgeous but it's way to big to me. 3.8 it's the ideal size imo
EDIT: i just checked the specs of both again on gsmarena and that totally changed my opinion xD

Big community will keep the desire alive for ages.
Take the Desire S

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Android UI over Android 2.0 Donut

http://blog.se-nse.net/useb-exclusive-rachael-ui-demo-video/
wow! kinda blueish but very nice one
yea thats on the sony i think.. idk looks kinda windows mobile haha
rosie / sense is better IMO, but its still quite good...just a little impractical looking in some places.
looks good. more interested in what it got under the hood though
Its slightly impractical and it won't even work on our phones.
This is from the Sony Ericsson Rachael which has a 1Ghz snapdragon processor. If you think Rosie runs poorly, I can't even imagine how this would run.
1. Not "Donut"
2. Wrong forum
That is definitely from the Sony Ericcson Racheal. It is suppost to be based off of the Android 2.0/Donut but the UI is just an overlay or a sony exclusive UI just like the Rosie/Sense UI is for HTC. Also, good look running a ROM with it on the G1.
It's not "donut", it is sony ericsons ui. Kind of like how HTC has it's own ui.. I don't care for it..
Donut or not it is a UI that is layered over Android just like Sense is layered over Android. 1.5 or 2.0 who cares.
When i first got the G1 last October, the Rosie and this new SE UI is what i was hoping for...i couldn't wait for Touchflo-ish looks came to Android...Now that they are starting to, i have to decide if i want the awesome looking software with lots of features or keep the physical keyboard! Damn decisions!
I upgraded to the G1 from a TMobile Wing and i had a similar issue...the newest ROMs were to big to work nicely with the Wing's hardware...I feel i am in for the same disappointment with the G1 now! Damn you Google for allowing HTC to build a barebone spec device for the first Android device!!!!
Looks nice... now I just need a device with Snapdragon in it...
looks ok... but a little bland imo... I think rosie/sense looks nicer.
Wow! I think it looks hot!! I'm looking forward to the Sony snapdragon phone.
Eh ... looks kinda bland and too blue. Not that impressed. Hopefully they clean up some of the graphics.
looks pretty ugly to me,
I don't like the animated contact cards
dweller88 said:
I don't like the animated contact cards
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ditto.....
As mentioned before, not donut. Threads here are worse than Fox News.
Man that UI looks awfully boring. From a designer's point of view...The floating selector for the contacts is ok, but there's way too much blue which makes everything feel muddy, and there's little style. But's there's still time for a lot of tweaks hopefully...otherwise meh.
Sense is better by far at this point.
i only like the floating contacts, and animations.. everything else looks dull.

SGS II regret................

Hi Guys
I bought the SGS II but i started to regret this decision after a couple of days
Everyone wants something out of a phone and Sensation might be a perfect fit for one person, while the SGS II for another
I owned the desire HD before and I really appreciated how smooth the interface was, and the number of business widgets readily available with sense (email, calendar, people, friend stream). I also appreciated how social networking is integrated into sense
In all honesty SGS II is a beast when it comes to speed, but it UI is way behind sense. Out of the box it does not offer the widgets i want,and 3rd party widgets are not as good or do not offer functionality or integration with sense
Amazingly, SGS II UI also becomes laggy when you fillout 7 screens with widgets. I had 7 screens of widgets on the DHD and the scrolling was very smooth
SO MY QUESTION IS
is this smoothness retained in sense 3.0. Do they still have the same nice sense widgets integrated with the system and is sense still smooth even after you fill out 7 screens with widgets ?
Thx
Yes everything is integrated very well. So far no lag with filling 7 screens with widgets
idesmond said:
Yes everything is integrated very well. So far no lag with filling 7 screens with widgets
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same here. 7 Screens filled. No lag
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Went from Desire HD til Sensation, and I am very pleased.
The form factor of the Sensation, although the difference is not huge on paper, is all in favour of the Sensation. It's much more manageable, and feels better in my hand.
The build quality is better, and to me it feels like an "improved" Desire HD, where all small quirks have been fixed (like battery and Sim card covers, and power/volume buttons)
In short the Sensation feels like a better quality device.
I have always liked Sense, and Sense 3.0 is a very good improvement, with nice new features. (I used Sense 3 addons on my DHD, and I would never go back to Sense 2.1 now)
It is to early for me to conclude battery performance, since the battery only have 2-3 cycles completed, but I have complaints on performance so far.
Speed of dual core is also hard to comment, as my Desire HD ran custom ROM, so it was fast. The Sensation does not feel slow at all, but about the same as the single core 1Ghz DHD. My guess is that when HTC opens the bootloader and custom ROMs are created, it will be noticably faster!
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if Sense 3.0 is ported to SGS II and TouchWiz 4.0 is ported to Sensation
I've always said I don't really mind what software the phone is running (as long as it's Android!) because I or another dev can port the software I'd like
i personally hate widgets and sense. So on my sensation I went with launcher pro and like 2 widgets. I dunno its just personal preference i guess everything is.
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To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if Sense 3.0 is ported to SGS II
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You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
karnovaran said:
You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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That was all before HTC opened the DEV Center for Sense, it may get quite a bit easier to work with Sense.
karnovaran said:
You should be surprised if that happens, because Sense has never been successfully ported to a non-HTC phone. Mildly functional versions have made it to the original Motorola Droid and some Galaxy S variants, but they have never been daily drivers. There are just too many proprietary HTC bits for developers to reverse engineer.
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Always time for a first, though

So, who want's to see some Sense 4.0 with ICS

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-ville-caught-on-video-with-sense-4-0-31211379/
I don't like it. HTC must have been high out of their minds to take Sense this far. The animations are unnecessary.
I agree, Im not really liking it. The dockbar, IMO, looks like garbage. All those animations seems like it lags the UI as well
the animation is nice. but i don't like the launcher, sense's 3.xx launcher is better that.
I like the animations. The dock and the actual device are ugly. Sucks. HTC messed up on this one. For sure il be getting the amaze instead now. I rather have sense 3.0 on android 4.0.
coupetastic-droid said:
I like the animations. The dock and the actual device are ugly. Sucks. HTC messed up on this one. For sure il be getting the amaze instead now. I rather have sense 3.0 on android 4.0.
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Why if you can just root it an hopefully downgrade lol
i honestly do like thgis sense. i mean sure the launcher is a bit iffy but i like it and if it gets ported to our phone i wont mind using it as a DD
O__o what happened????
Software: it doesn't even look like Sense anymore...
i agree, the animations, while nice, look like they hog a bunch of memory, and aren't necessary... if it lags on a device like that, imagine how it would run on our Glacier..LOL
Hardware: reminds me of the Galaxy Nexus, specially from the side lol
it doesn't look as pro and nice as the Sensation... i mean.. wow.. single LED light? the Sensation has two...
much rather get the Sensation instead.
quite disappointed... hope HTC changes it before the official release.
Eww ugly
I'm a Rom Flip Flopper
I was concerned that Sense 4.0 would look too much like previous versions and not allow enough of ICS' great UI to show through. The leaked video was a pleasant surprise!
I like the new status bar, clock/weather widget, and dockbar. All three are a nice change from previous versions which were pretty close to identical going from the Cupcake version of Sense that came out on the Hero all the way up to Sense 3.5 on the Runnymede and Rezound. Finally something different!
Like most people I did not at all like the needless animation in the Settings window, but I'd still be interested in running 4.0 on the MT4G or any future device.
Not a big fan of Sense in general, but it does seem HTC has gone overboard with this one. The phone itself looks pretty sleek though, wonder how cool it would be running AOSP ICS.
I haven't seen the video yet, I'm throttled, but judging by the comments. It's possible that it's just a beta or something, I'm just guessing.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
........Death before dishonor........
Team MS
I actually like it, it sure looked like a beta to me. There is no way HTC is going to release something that laggy
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I think it looks pretty good. I definitely like the new launcher. I hated the rosie dock.
I thought it looked pretty cool. Cant wait to see a finished product
I could care less about the lag; it's the UI itself that annoys me. This has resource hog written all over it. And, Sense got uglier. All this resource rape is unnecessary; people have made exact replicas of Sense using images and other widgets, and it uses a ****lot less resources than Sense's framework (not to mention, the framework is modded to hell). HTC is just getting unnecessary now.
I think HTC should of just watered it down, a lot. Keeps beats and add universal support. Animations are nice so keep those, and have HTC Widgets, and apps and that's it. Stock ICS with minor tweaks.
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GazaIan said:
I could care less about the lag; it's the UI itself that annoys me. This has resource hog written all over it. And, Sense got uglier. All this resource rape is unnecessary; people have made exact replicas of Sense using images and other widgets, and it uses a ****lot less resources than Sense's framework (not to mention, the framework is modded to hell). HTC is just getting unnecessary now.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Sense has so many little touches are throughout the UI...far too many to list. There's no way to replicate the Sense experience with themes and widgets.
It's sort of like generic cola...it tastes ok and a little like real Coke, but there's no way to duplicate genuine ice-cold Coca-Cola Classic (or Pepsi ).
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I'm gonna have to disagree with that. Sense has so many little touches are throughout the UI...far too many to list. There's no way to replicate the Sense experience with themes and widgets.
It's sort of like generic cola...it tastes ok and a little like real Coke, but there's no way to duplicate genuine ice-cold Coca-Cola Classic (or Pepsi ).
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+100%
you're absolutely right.
people may have made "replicas" of it, but nothing beats the real thing.
just like how those people in China make those fake Android phones/iPhones and sell them
Looks great, but I'll always trade the looks of sense for the responsiveness and better battery life I get from an AOSP or CM build.
After looking at this, if sense REALLY turns out to be that way, I'm hoping some smart guy will make a rom for it without all the needless animations and resource hogging things.
I was really dissapointed that Touchwiz phones were more popular than Sense phones for 2011. I thought HTC would learn from that, but it seems they've gotten worse. I've been kind of excited for a Sense 4.0 rom but now im just probably gonna use my core droid 3.5 rom til my contract is up. If a nexus phone doesnt come to T-mobile... I will be forced to buy the only thing i see good enough....... a galaxy S 3 phone.
btw: I just saw this video today so im late XD.

[Q] Questions about Sense and Android 4.0

Hello guys,
I've just recently got the One S on contract from Netcom and coming from a Samsung phone this really has been a new experience for me all together. But I have a problem. The phone itself works flawlessly and lags nothing compared to the HTC One X - but I really, really, really HATE SENSE.
I just can't seem to get used to it and since I've pretty much done custom flashing on my old Galaxy S since the very start, I just can't wait to replace SENSE as soon as possible - in the mean time, would it be possible to just unlock the device and put a STOCK version of ICS on it? Like one for the One S so that I get to keep stuff such as the HTC browser and maybe the custom Alt+Tab kind of thingy they put on?
Personally would like to build my own custom ROM with some mixed ingredienses but I wouldn't know where to start.
Any ideas? Or do I just have to wait and stick to this in the mean time?
As a stop-gap measure, you could install another launcher. I did this on the HTC Sensation for awhile before we started having either the non-sense options or true AOSP builds like we have now. From my limited experience, this is a flagship device and developers and users and documentarians will show up. The Sensation has a pretty rich community of both sense and AOSP builds now. One cautionary note though. On my Sensation running a modified version of CM9 there are things still being fixed. You may find early versions of ICS will have a variety of issues as developers get things solved. Its particularly hard before source gets released though. Its like peddling a bicycle backwards in a dark tunnel when its raining.
As mentioned above, install Nova launcher for now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389071
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ok thanks guys. will have to settle with it for now I guess.
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Au Contraire!
I am going with the One S because it runs Sense 4 ( best android overlay)
I was going to go with Samsung Galaxy S2 but my friend showed me his, everything about TouchWiz was unappealing from the large text the stale interface.
AndroidBlizzard said:
Au Contraire!
I am going with the One S because it runs Sense 4 ( best android overlay)
I was going to go with Samsung Galaxy S2 but my friend showed me his, everything about TouchWiz was unappealing from the large text the stale interface.
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I guess each one has it's own taste
My gripe with sense is just what you describe as appealing.. the small black text on white background in most of the interface is killing my eye-sight at night. Guess I have been used to the Android 2.3 experience for too long and as much as Sense 4 works wonders - it just not my cup of tea. This could of course be fixed if there was a "black" skin that could be applied. Preferably with as little bright colors as possible (I know, may sound boring but will eventually save a few hours of battery in the long run due to the AMOLED display running "less hot" )
I'm in the same situation as the OP, really enjoyed ICS on my Desire until the display broke (got slammed display first into table... IKEA > HTC)
Anyways here's hoping that I understand these nuggets correctly: "MoDaCo Custom ROMs are based on official ROMs - either shipping or leaked."
"Stock style and Vanilla (ICS) style prebakes will be available as the ROM takes shape."
Source: first post in [ROM] 11 Apr - MoDaCo Custom ROM for the HTC One S - Sense and Vanilla styles in the One S Development forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592126
So hopefully Paulobrien just removes Sense etc from an official ROM. Not sure whats up with the cooking lingo though, maybe there is a dev-chef-lingo dictionary somewhere on XDA!
Also I second your request for where to start learning to build your own ROM! Should post a Q in the noob-friendly thread here.
aureleuz said:
I guess each one has it's own taste
My gripe with sense is just what you describe as appealing.. the small black text on white background in most of the interface is killing my eye-sight at night. Guess I have been used to the Android 2.3 experience for too long and as much as Sense 4 works wonders - it just not my cup of tea. This could of course be fixed if there was a "black" skin that could be applied. Preferably with as little bright colors as possible (I know, may sound boring but will eventually save a few hours of battery in the long run due to the AMOLED display running "less hot" )
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Perhaps you are right
Looking at sense 3.0 interface , the black blackground is weird, sense 4 with white background for settings seems much more natural. I have spent quite some time around my friends who have EVO 3D and Sensation, and I have to admit I will miss the eye catching animations and the easy access carousel function. Of course this is will be my first HTC phone so I can see how people hate the white look of settings. Coming from an iPhone with white settings too, it will be a similar transition for me. Sense just seems to have so much depth and much to explore compared to other Android Overlays. Having ICS along with it just makes the experience much smoother and sweeter.(Pun partially intended )
So... can anybody tell me if the Stock ROMs that have been cooked for the One S recently work good enough to run for production (i.e. HTC camera, launcher, weather widget)
I really would like to feel that AOSP experience again just like on my old Galaxy S. But I don't want to loose any functionality
aureleuz said:
So... can anybody tell me if the Stock ROMs that have been cooked for the One S recently work good enough to run for production (i.e. HTC camera, launcher, weather widget)
I really would like to feel that AOSP experience again just like on my old Galaxy S. But I don't want to loose any functionality
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Try Black Dragon 3.8 Rom. Very stable and keeps all functions working.
LikeaG2root said:
Try Black Dragon 3.8 Rom. Very stable and keeps all functions working.
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Kthx.
Does that include the HTC ImageSense chip-drivers? I really like the way the camera snaps those pics in a fraction of a second!

[Q] Sony's UI or default UI

Hi! just wondering... do you like how Sony changes the look of android?
It doesn't look bad but why do some manufactures need to change the icons, apps' layout (especially the sms) and everything what Google intended to be. I know that it needs to be somehow distinct or unique but I really love how the 'default' android looks like. You may say buy another phone but Xperia's 'external' design fits me & my wallet or flash another rom but some roms are just modified stock roms. They could have just added the features & apps and followed the UI just like CyanogenMod. The only thing i love about the Xperia's stock rom is the Walkman app and the illumination bar and I haven't switched to CM10 yet because the video playback/recording doesn't work. Sorry if you think that my comment is stupid but do you like how Sony changes the look of android's GUI?
Definitely prefer sony UI! It's nice,great,simple... When I'm on CM10 i always flash xperia z style systemUI,status bar,install walkman,xperia lockscreen...:laugh:
Me, too. Timescape ui FTW! It's the most beautiful and most "operational" one on android smartphones. Also, it's way better than stock google's one.
Sony ui any day, with all things colorized according to theme.
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NeoTrix said:
Sony ui any day, with all things colorized according to theme.
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i like that feature though i hope we could choose on a wider range of color just like what windows 8 has on its start screen or on its desktop. i mean would it be great if the color theme adapts to your wallpaper or the album cover of what you're playing so that your phone could adjust to your mood. i think i'm just being silly here :cyclops: but that would be so great...
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i like that feature though i hope we could choose on a wider range of color just like what windows 8 has on its start screen or on its desktop. i mean would it be great if the color theme adapts to your wallpaper or the album cover of what you're playing so that your phone could adjust to your mood. i think i'm just being silly here :cyclops: but that would be so great...
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I do see that coming in the future actually.
But as for now,if your wallpaper has a green base,choose green theme and change wallpaper?
Hi,
Stock, pure, Vanilla Android will always be my preference. That's also why I love CyanogenMod! It's just... So pure and clean! My Nexus 7 with KitKat gives me the desire to taste CM11 on my E!
Ofcourse, Sony's skin is the best skin on the market! Together with Oppo, I like them the most. Compared with the stuff Samsung drops on their phone, unbelievable. Allthough I do like the new Windows 8-like skin they put on KitKat. But TouchWiz is just completely messed up! LG isn't much better. The childish icons make me want to hit the screen...
No, how Google intended it to be will always rock for me. I don't even have to install a ROM on my Nexus. It's fine as it is(rooted and TWRP installed, but still...).
That's my opinion . If Samsung would stop to hire toddlers for their UI team, that would be sweeeeeet...
Have a nice day!
MatsPunt said:
That's my opinion . If Samsung would stop to hire toddlers for their UI team, that would be sweeeeeet...
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:laugh: :laugh: LOL!!! i can't stop laughing when you said that and i totally i agree with you but if samsung wants their device to be more child-friendly or toddler-friendly, they're probably making a good job...
Android bells, Android bells, Google all the way... CM11 is coming to town, riding on the E!
Excuse my terrible parody of Jingle Bells. Continuing...
I love Google's stock UI, and TouchWiz comes close. Sony's UI, at least in my E or my friend's J, looks unfinished. The design just isn't consistent, and that's a big ouch. Samsung, however, looks solid. Not necessarily refined, but it's cool either way.
(prepares for flames)
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Samsung, however, looks solid. Not necessarily refined, but it's cool either way.
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(flames coming )
Its not that I hate TouchWiz. It's just different from the way Google intended it to be! When I bought my SII, I used TouchWix for two months. Then I got fed up and installed Paranoid Android.
It changed my life... No more glossy, shiny icons and messy menus. Pure Android!
I absolutely agree with you when you say that Samsung is consistent. They managed to screw up all of Android . Not just one element...
But everyone can have their opinion. I can(and will) respect that!
Little off topic: I'm currently having €250. I have a nice little job and this number will increase. Should I buy a mid to high range phone(for example: Nexus 5) or a high end phone(for example: Xperia Z1)?
What would you do?
Have a nice day!
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MatsPunt said:
Little off topic: I'm currently having €250. I have a nice little job and this number will increase. Should I buy a mid to high range phone(for example: Nexus 5) or a high end phone(for example: Xperia Z1)?
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I'd get the Nexus, but that's just because I like updates and AOSP-like stock ROMs. I'd say if you need the camera, get the Z1, else get the Nexus.

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