Hi,
I'm not sure if this is even possible, but I can't seem to find anything solid on it - and I'm new to the device, and very limited 'experience' flashing my old Wildfire.
What I want is a stock (Google stock, not HTC stock) that is capable of receiving OTA updates as soon as Google releases a new iteration of Android. Essentially like a Nexus device.
I'm not bothered about any other hacky features (for the moment, at least). I just want an AOSP ROM that ideally have OTA updates.
Do the TMOUS ROMs do this?
Also, can someone please briefly explain (or link to a guide - I couldn't find one) how to flash said ROM without adb/AndroidSDK?
Thanks in advance,
PS:
Kernel version: 2.6.35.13-3422292
Baseband version: 10.56.9035.00U_10.14.9035.01_M
Hello, no such thing at the moment, sensation Roms are still in their infancy and removing sense brings problems, at the minute the closest you will find is the beast rom which is what I use, other then that just wait for cyanogenmod to be released oh and before people start flaming for this being in the wrong section, just remember this is a new user so be nice
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meegs said:
Hello, no such thing at the moment, sensation Roms are still in their infancy and removing sense brings problems, at the minute the closest you will find is the beast rom which is what I use, other then that just wait for cyanogenmod to be released oh and before people start flaming for this being in the wrong section, just remember this is a new user so be nice
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Ah, okay, thanks.
So, in general (and therefore one could assume Sensation AOSP ROMs once ou of infancy) do AOSP ROMs allow OTA updating, like as soon as the Nexus devices get them?
Or do the developers of said ROMs still need to tweak them, and there is no bog-standard Google ROM?
The forums are split up into sections there is one called Q and A post further questions there unless your a developer sharing a mod or Rom you more then likely shouldn't create threads here.
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Ah, okay, thanks.
So, in general (and therefore one could assume Sensation AOSP ROMs once ou of infancy) do AOSP ROMs allow OTA updating, like as soon as the Nexus devices get them?
Or do the developers of said ROMs still need to tweak them, and there is no bog-standard Google ROM?
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pretty much every dev rom has OTA updating disabled, because an OTA update would do things like disable root.
also the only OTA update a sensation would ever receive is an update with Sense, which would be incompatible with whichever AOSP rom you have.
most devs update their roms pretty quickly after an OTA though. unless it is an entirely new android version, which can take some time.
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Ah, okay, thanks.
So, in general (and therefore one could assume Sensation AOSP ROMs once ou of infancy) do AOSP ROMs allow OTA updating, like as soon as the Nexus devices get them?
Or do the developers of said ROMs still need to tweak them, and there is no bog-standard Google ROM?
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There is no stock Android ROM from Google for the Sensation - any would have to be ported from another device or created from scratch from source. As such, there will never be OTA updates from Google themselves as the ROM would not have come from them
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There is no stock Android ROM from Google for the Sensation - any would have to be ported from another device or created from scratch from source. As such, there will never be OTA updates from Google themselves as the ROM would not have come from them
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True, so the answer to that bit is a no! Sorry its not the news you were hoping for but hopefully you still enjoy your sensation
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True, so the answer to that bit is a no! Sorry its not the news you were hoping for but hopefully you still enjoy your sensation
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Okay, I didn't think it was possible anyway - just some posts I read led me to believe it was.
Hopefully an AOSP ROM for Sensation will arrive before long that has OTA updates in some capacity outside of ROM Manager.
F012DY said:
Okay, I didn't think it was possible anyway - just some posts I read led me to believe it was.
Hopefully an AOSP ROM for Sensation will arrive before long that has OTA updates in some capacity outside of ROM Manager.
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You're not quite getting it, the sensation will never get an ota update outside of rom manager, unless you're running a stock, non-rooted sense rom.
The *only* devices that will get an aosp ota of any kind outside of rom manager are the nexus devices. There's no way around that.
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Let's put it this way.
Nexus series gets official updates from Google because Google is the one that's 'selling/branding' the devices. Just take Google in this case as yet another manufacturer which provides OTA for its fleet of devices. Like for HTC, it provides OTA updates for our devices with Sense..
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most devs update their roms pretty quickly after an OTA though. unless it is an entirely new android version, which can take some time.
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The *only* devices that will get an aosp ota of any kind outside of rom manager are the nexus devices. There's no way around that.
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These two seem to contradict, what I'm asking is if the update from ROM dev is OTA through settings or whatever, or if it requires a flash and possibly wipe of dalvik cache?
I'm surprised no one has done an AdamG and compiled an AOSP ROM for the Sensation. He did it for the Desire and it was an AWESOME ROM
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These two seem to contradict, what I'm asking is if the update from ROM dev is OTA through settings or whatever, or if it requires a flash and possibly wipe of dalvik cache?
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First quote: talking about making a rom based on an ota from HTC, I.e. behind Google's current release version.
2nd quote: talking about an aosp rom. And no, there isn't a way for us to do an ota update through the settings menu, only through cwm/rom manager.
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That's not strictly true, MIUI do it apparently
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That's not strictly true, MIUI do it apparently
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Miui are weird have are a venture backed group. (They have money). Not sure exactly how they do, but they may have created their own checking app that then downloads a .zip for Yuri specific device, then uses cwm to flash.
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Mod please close this thread as it has nothing to do with Android Development.
Not seen much of miui till recently, I don't get it, why would I want my android phone to look like an iPhone, clunky useless and a bit rubbish, please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't get the hype, sorry for going a bit OT
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Related
http://phandroid.com/2011/06/14/htc-desire-wont-receive-gingerbread-due-to-memory-constraints/
What do you all think about this?
Edit - epic fail on my behalf.
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We think this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
i knew it this is going to happened ....due to less internal space...
they could at least update it to 2.3 but stay with the same sense version
don't matter got devs
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We think this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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Where is the other dedicated thread discussing this announcement?
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umair_903 said:
they could at least update it to 2.3 but stay with the same sense version
don't matter got devs
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Yeh, it's called use a custom rom
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they could at least update it to 2.3 but stay with the same sense version
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lol why bother when you have muc better roms here, for example Sense 2.1+2.0 mix from Baadnewz, or RCMix, and coolexe and damo are working on sense 3 ROMs, all of them already have gb 2.3.3 or 2.3.4...
It's my personal opinion, but even if they updated to 2.3.4 I would have a custom ROM on my phone... Why not be original?
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Where is the other dedicated thread discussing this announcement?
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You are right, there is no ONE thread about this..There are just 3 threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123641
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123738
and one more that was in this section (development) already deleted..like this thread will be in few minutes
I agree. Sod em If there was an official rom released i wouldnt use it as
a> it would prolly be bloated
b> wheres the fun in that and
4> BORING
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You are right, there is no ONE thread about this..There are just 3 threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123641
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123738
and one more that was in this section (development) already deleted..like this thread will be in few minutes
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Fair enough
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makes me that much more appreciative of all the Devs work here on xda!
Epic fail
Oho, what a surprise
Oh well i'not jealous anyway, Oxygen is good enough, so close to stock that it's probably even better then the buggy port they would have fed us with. The only thing i'd want from google is launcher and a browser rewritten so that they can use our gpu...other than that any update sounds quite pointless to me.
If we're not getting any "revelations" about that coming to ics (and then i SEE it working with my own eyes, because they LIED about 3.0 getting it), then wp7 here i come babe...
For those asking : "Why so interested in the official update ?"
Our great Devs will take it, and then modd it, it'll be SO fast, as like everything is perfect, then a custom kernel, then a DAMN GREAT ROM....
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Anyone have any ideas??
I am also interested in an answer to this question. I also installed CM7 on my Bravo, and now I'm a little nervous. I don't keep anything of value on my Google account, but still...
I don't think cm7 is the cause of this. No way would it have virus'
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The CM's developers are an unbelievable organisation.CM is used by lots of people..A lot I mean. I'm not much into all that stuff but I think that the 7 version of CM is considered as an original android development.Do you think they would jeopardize that for some random email? I dont think so..Maybe it is a coincidence, maybe it is not.I'm almost sure that it aint a virus..but you could never know.If you have any doubts about them you can change your rom, but there's no way imo that they have stolen your account..Good luck.
Did you download CM7 from the official sites?
Wipe all and make a fresh install of the rom.
And change your gmail account password!
The rom was downloaded from the Bravo dev section and is the only CM7 rom available for the phone. It is not officially supported and therefore not on CM7's site
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The rom was downloaded from the Bravo dev section and is the only CM7 rom available for the phone. It is not officially supported and therefore not on CM7's site
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It won't be the issue. I don't think you should blame CM.
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As said earlier, the official CMteam don't, and wouldn't backdoor their ROM. Other parties (those who make unofficial variants/other ROMs) don't have the reputation to protect. This is why, when I install a ROM from a not so renown team, I make a phony gmail account during the signup.
You could try an install the gapps bundle from CyanogenMod wiki (I can't post links as I'm new, but google "cyanogenmod gapps" and it's the first result)
I'm not blaming CM. I was just asking what might have caused this. I just found it strange that it happened within hours of installing the ROM. I have never had my email hacked.
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It won't be the issue. I don't think you should blame CM.
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As per title, is there a complete JB Rom that I can obtain?
I'm a new Android user and yet to touch the stock Telstra One XL rom, so yes I'm a newbie to this.
I basically want the full functions of the phone like using the camera etc, as I noticed some roms here aren't final.
And Sense 4.0 is quite laggy and I'm really anal about it, so thought a clean and bloatware-free OS would do the trick.
If anyone can assist please.
Android 4.03 - HTC Sense 4.0 - Software 1.89.841.9
What you need to do first is look inside the threads for original android development when you see 1 that said jelly bean or c m 10 read the very first host of the thread and see if it says a daily driver. If you're new to routing and developing for android you may get overwhelmed really quickly so it's best to wait until you find a rom that is available as a daily driver . Please excuse any typos you may find since I'm typing this using my voice lol
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oddfuturejoey said:
What you need to do first is look inside the threads for original android development when you see 1 that said jelly bean or c m 10 read the very first host of the thread and see if it says a daily driver. If you're new to routing and developing for android you may get overwhelmed really quickly so it's best to wait until you find a rom that is available as a daily driver . Please excuse any typos you may find since I'm typing this using my voice lol
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OK, thanks mate. Yes I want to use it and pretty much forget it, until a new software update becomes available from HTC/Telstra.
Just looking for a clean installation. Not really liking Sense 4.0 performance-wise.
I'm gonna be honest: I love Sense (at least the way the widgets look), but everything else is ehh. Check out the AOKP ice cream sandwich rom. It's optimized for speed. Once you root and unlock your bootloader that should be the first one you check out: it made MY XL run smooth as butter
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Forgot to add: if you want easy customization AOKP is also the way to go. Take my word for it, brother
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Currently I don't think there are any Jelly Bean Roms that are 100% done. I am using the CM 10 by h8rift and I think this one is as close as there is to being 100% done. Here is the link to check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1790032.
I am using this as my daily driver and haven't had too many problems with it and I love how fast and smooth everything is. That being said if you are looking for a rom that you can flash and leave and not mess with basically forever I wouldn't recommend and of the Jelly Bean ones. Some of them are getting close to being complete but none are quite there yet. I would stick to one of the Ice Cream Sandwich roms. I haven't tried any of them so I don't have personal experience with any of them but I do like the work h8rift has done on the CM 10 rom so I would at least look at his CM 9 rom and see if that looks good for you. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1808206. As I copied the link still seems like there are some things that need to be sorted out so I might go with the person above me's recommendation as he at least has personal experience.
Hope this helps!
Use the search feature. There aren't any hidden roms that aren't in the original android development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
Is this OK for the Telstra HOXL? Version 1.89.841.9
Now I just gotta research how to root the phone...
I've googled, so is the correct way to unlock and start adding custom roms?
http://ausdroid.net/2012/05/21/how-to-root-the-htc-one-xl-generic-telstra/
I'm thinking of using HTC Dev under "unsupported" models as it looks more legit.
Miguel One XL said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
Is this OK for the Telstra HOXL? Version 1.89.841.9
Now I just gotta research how to root the phone...
And I've googled, and is the correct way to unlock and start adding custom roms?
http://ausdroid.net/2012/05/21/how-to-root-the-htc-one-xl-generic-telstra/
I'm thinking of using HTC Dev under "unsupported" models as it looks more legit.
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no, you'll brick your phone with that ROM. ROMs in that section are ONLY for International HOX.
regarding on unlocking and rooting, like others have said, I'd suggest you go to this section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1541
read as much as you can on threads related to unlocking and rooting, otherwise, it can brick your device if something is wrong. And reading those can also helps you understand how things work so you can troubleshoot problems later on.
Some examples to get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671396
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709424
I appreciate the advice and for the links. Cheers
Hi Miguel
If you head over here to this thread created by the_scotsman its all about the Telstra One XL :good: plenty of us hacking and chopping roms there and able to help you with specific Telstra questions :victory:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691295
atticusmas said:
Use the search feature. There aren't any hidden roms that aren't in the original android development forum.
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That's what you think. Once you hit 500 posts you'll be PM'd a link for the super-duper-special-top-secret-hidden development section. That's where all the good stuff is. We already have S-Off over there, not to mention a fully functional stable Key Lime Pie build.
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That's what you think. Once you hit 500 posts you'll be PM'd a link for the super-duper-special-top-secret-hidden development section. That's where all the good stuff is. We already have S-Off over there, not to mention a fully functional stable Key Lime Pie build.
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SHHH! You aren't supposed to let our secret out! We developers will get angry!
Haha Jk. @OP If you need any help let me, or anyone know. We're here to help, and we don't want you to have a bricked phone. Believe me, if you have ANY doubts, ASK US. Otherwise you might end up with a fancy paperweight.
readngst suplhuris
Haha thanks guys. I completely understand that I'm a newbie to this...
Can someone please confirm that these steps are either spot on or if I'm missing something?
Just to recap, its a HOXL - version 1.89 - Telstra (AUS)
Plug phone via USB (Charge only)
Enable USB debugging
Go to HTCDev to unlock bootloader
Flash TWRP custom recovery via Fastboot (GooManager) Google App store
Flash Pre-rooted ROM of your choice (Telstra AUS tick approval).
I just did a backup, factory reset and wiped all data. I want to keep the factory ROM, just in case things go south.
Miguel One XL said:
Haha thanks guys. I completely understand that I'm a newbie to this...
Can someone please confirm that these steps are either spot on or if I'm missing something?
Just to recap, its a HOXL - version 1.89 - Telstra (AUS)
Plug phone via USB (Charge only)
Enable USB debugging
Go to HTCDev to unlock bootloader
Flash TWRP custom recovery via Fastboot (GooManager) Google App store
Flash Pre-rooted ROM of your choice (Telstra AUS tick approval).
I just did a backup, factory reset and wiped all data. I want to keep the factory ROM, just in case things go south.
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Yep! Though your recovery flashing step is worded a bit weird. What you can do is download GooManager Beta from the Play Store, open it, hit menu, and select Install OpenRecovery (or something like that, I forget the exact wording). That will download and install TWRP for you. Reboot into recovery to confirm it worked.
HTC has posted the following statement on their jelly bean update FAQ page:
HTC said:
What about a development version of Android 4.1?
For our developer community, we plan to make generic development ROMs of Jelly Bean available for both the HTC One X and HTC One S. As soon as the ROMs are ready, they will be posted to our HTCdev site (www.htcdev.com). We strongly recommend customers take the time to understand the limitations of the development software along with the terms and conditions on the site before downloading to their device.
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It'll be interesting to see if they follow through.
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great and absolutelty necessary right now
looking forward to it.
I think this step will give us the possibility for builing more stabil custom roms
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HTC has posted the following statement on their jelly bean update FAQ page:
It'll be interesting to see if they follow through.
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When they say "generic" development ROMS do they mean AOSP based or simply the OpenSense SDK compliant Sense-based ROMs?
MattDN93 said:
When they say "generic" development ROMS do they mean AOSP based or simply the OpenSense SDK compliant Sense-based ROMs?
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I have a feeling it involves sense..some generic aosp would be the tits
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NQNH said:
looking forward to it.
I think this step will give us the possibility for more stabil custom roms
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MORE ROMs
Send from an awesome phone with a buggy homebutton.
"Generic Development ROMs of Jelly Bean" doesn't leave much room for speculation in my eyes. It reads generic jelly bean. Not more, not less. No Sense if you ask me.
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"Generic Development ROMs of Jelly Bean" doesn't leave much room for speculation in my eyes. It reads generic jelly bean. Not more, not less. No Sense if you ask me.
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Exactly! That's what many of us in the development community want...basically a "Nexus One S" lol
Knowing HTC the rom will be available in mid 2013, for the One X. We'll probably get it late 2013
Sorry I'm a tech noob, can someone explain the significance of this? Is this HTCs way of responding to our demands of wanting s off and bumping up development?
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lonoguge said:
Sorry I'm a tech noob, can someone explain the significance of this? Is this HTCs way of responding to our demands of wanting s off and bumping up development?
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Where did you get SOFF from any of this?
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Where did you get SOFF from any of this?
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I didn't get it from here but I tied it with the whole development issue for the one s.
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S-off isn't as important as it used to be. This device just takes a little more effort. Last time I needed s-off was on my g2.
Generic roms have nothing to do with s-off
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"Generic Development ROMs of Jelly Bean" doesn't leave much room for speculation in my eyes. It reads generic jelly bean. Not more, not less. No Sense if you ask me.
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Well considering HTC is all about sense I don't see why they would change that for a device they obviously intended sense to run on.
If you ask me it's a good ploy to keep people happy while they take longer to release jelly bean. I have a feeling we won't be seeing it this month for sure and doubtful for next. But I don't really care as the way it came keeps me happy
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Nice, if this happens I will not jump ship to the n4. I love this phone, but I want a AOSP experience. Did I know the risk when buying this phone? Most certainly did. Ive stuck it out for almost a half a year and I would be more then happy to sell this device to someone who likes the sense UI.
It's a great device with a great profile to it. If it can get a 100% working AOSP i will consider it a win.
don't know why do they release so many models if they can't follow up with updates
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don't know why do they release so many models if they can't follow up with updates
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What's broken? Phones used to barely get updates, its only because google is updating android so much. Everything works, you don't need an update every month.
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this might be for elevate members only
xxquicksh0txx said:
What's broken? Phones used to barely get updates, its only because google is updating android so much. Everything works, you don't need an update every month.
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This ^
Updates are nice but hardly vital as long as the phone does what it was supposed to do when you bought it.
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Nope, has nothing at all to do with Elevate.
They announced it like two months ago and still nothing happend... Now when I saw nexus 4 I'll try to sell my one s as soon as possible :|
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5vdGF1cGRhdGVyIl0.
All I know is that CM 10 isn't supported!
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Why CM10 not supported?
I have bruce rom and i don't remember when i update it last time.
I dislike to spent my time on updating roms.
l4ct0s3 said:
Why CM10 not supported?
I have bruce rom and i don't remember when i update it last time.
I dislike to spent my time on updating roms.
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Idk.... but if you want to upgrade CM come here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1782009
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l4ct0s3 said:
Why CM10 not supported?
I have bruce rom and i don't remember when i update it last time.
I dislike to spent my time on updating roms.
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Well, if you don't like spending your time to update your custom rom, then stick to the official rom came with your phone. Developers are working hard to give us the best possible roms. And all these for FREE. I might misunderstand your comment but if you don't like to spend time updating your rom that is your problem mate. Not everyone provides OTA updates and if you don't like or disagree with this then you shouldn't use custom roms. Don't get me wrong mate, but I think your comment sounds a bit offensive...
Viper has ota updates.
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Not many ROMs use that anymore, we have better ways of OTA now, Viper, DarkSense and Elegancia all use HTC Sense native OTA from settings > software updates