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My take on the MT4G ... a list of things it doesn’t do that my Sprint Evo did

It doesn’t fail to connect to my VW’s Bluetooth system.
It doesn’t sporadically connect to my Mitsubishi’s Bluetooth system … sometimes in the middle of a call.
It doesn’t force me to reset my Bluetooth when I switch to the charged headphones while the previously used unit charges.
It doesn’t lock up while syncing data causing the battery to discharge at an alarming rate.
It doesn’t discharge the batter at a fast rate just for normal use.
It’s doesn’t force me to turn off extra functions (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi) to get reasonable battery life.
It doesn’t lock up occasionally and force me to rest it.
It doesn’t all of the sudden turn into a hand warmer and again force me to reset it.
And to me that’s the point. Sprint screwed the pooch when it upgraded the Evo to 2.2 and failed to allow uses to downgrade their OS back to the originally installed version. Probably a cost saving measure, but one that cost them at least this customer.
So to anyone on the fence about getting a MT4G, I think the beauty of this phone is that it just works. Works in ways you expect smart phones to work, but just about all current phones don’t seem to accomplish. Who doesn’t want a cell phone that does that!

Lol, I was about to come in and flame you but I see what you did there. Golf clap
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Foo_Blyat said:
Lol, I was about to come in and flame you but I see what you did there. Golf clap
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LoL @ "golf clap". Well done. Well done. *hushes at the behest of one of the sideline officials*

Loved this review....i have to agree the MT4G is truly an amazing....now u should post this under the EVO forums and see what kind of responses u get lol JK

had me rofl for a while

This actually made my day..
Coming from an Evo, I can agree with you 100% on all of what you stated.
Viva MyTouch 4G
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Lol same here.
Foo_Blyat said:
Lol, I was about to come in and flame you but I see what you did there. Golf clap
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Firewalls?!!!

Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
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MaxReality said:
Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
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i all ready have a flashable add-on but it wont work till we get custom recovery and to replace the file your self you still need root becuase its in the system folder

Why do you use Droidwall if I may ask?
I have always seen it referred to as a placebo if anything.

Now people are seeing why I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted.
Android converts via the HD2 have all been using a rooted form of Android and never knew what life was like in the "locked down" world. I'm an Android convert via the HD2 myself, and knew complaints of this sort would be coming.
DroidWall is a great means to keep apps from eating data without knowing. Also a good means to keep Android from phoning home if that is of any concern to a user.

ashasaur said:
Why do you use Droidwall if I may ask?
I have always seen it referred to as a placebo if anything.
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Mdeejays rom ate all my data allowance in standby on my HD2. Droidwall stopped this happening, blocking everything except the apps you want to use data.
Although changing to Boyppc rom, the data usage wasnt half as much. Hmm?
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MaxReality said:
Hi peeps,
Honeymoon over with my new phone, realising some of the apps I use to take for granted on Android HD2, can't be used on Sensation.
Most important for me Droidwall.
Anyone know which firewalls, work and can run on a non rooted handset?
Side query, what's best way of removing ads? Never realised there was ads in apps. As it was already fixed in the custom roms. I presume u need a rooted phone, not the end of the world. handset is a joy to use.
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APNDroid with the widget on your home screen stops 3G data connection.
Adfree for removing ads but its for rooted only.
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Darnell_Chat_TN said:
Now people are seeing why I'm not buying the Sensation till it's cracked and rooted.
Android converts via the HD2 have all been using a rooted form of Android and never knew what life was like in the "locked down" world. I'm an Android convert via the HD2 myself, and knew complaints of this sort would be coming.
DroidWall is a great means to keep apps from eating data without knowing. Also a good means to keep Android from phoning home if that is of any concern to a user.
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I agree. But it was upgrade time and having a 1080p camcorder enticed me to buy. Once you get over it being locked down, for now, it really is a joy to use. Every little niggle the HD2 had is gone. But yeah, rom wise, Boyppc rom makes HD2 a perfectly capable handset.
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MaxReality said:
I agree. But it was upgrade time and having a 1080p camcorder enticed me to buy. Once you get over it being locked down, for now, it really is a joy to use. Every little niggle the HD2 had is gone. But yeah, rom wise, Boyppc rom makes HD2 a perfectly capable handset.
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Nope, I won't be getting over it. I won't be buying the Sensation till it's unlocked.
My HD2 with the latest NexusHD2-Gingerbread has zero issues, none.
So no way I'm taking a step backward to lockdown, never.
I use several apps that require root. And I'm also not buying something I can't keep custom ROMs on.
Enjoy yours, but I'll pass if it's not unlocked.
These devices now cost way too much to compromise.

220MB of data used in less than 1 day. WHAT?

I just checked my t-mobile account and noticed I used 220mb of data since yesterday afternoon. How in the world is this possible if I was on wifi 90% of the time?
This sucks because I lose 4g speeds after 2GB of data.

are you sure that's only since yesterday & not from the start of your billing cycle?

I'm a brand new tmobile customer. Signed up yesterday.

Might be the T-Mobile app thing. There was somebody else complaining of high data usage and traced it back to this app.
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brian85 said:
I'm a brand new tmobile customer. Signed up yesterday.
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it's probably not accurate then

redbullcat said:
Might be the T-Mobile app thing. There was somebody else complaining of high data usage and traced it back to this app.
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hmm. source link please? i'd really like to read in to this. that app is always shown as running on my phone, even after killing it.

xnifex said:
hmm. source link please? i'd really like to read in to this. that app is always shown as running on my phone, even after killing it.
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I'll see if I can find the thread for you

Couldn't find the specific post/thread I was quoting, but I did find this, on Android Police:
Update: Don’t install this app until it gets an update – it will turn your GPS on every 10 seconds to update your location info, and won’t stop unless you Force Stop it from the Manage Applications screen. It was at 68% on my phone’s battery usage menu after 6 hours of doing little with my phone aside from checking e-mail sporadically. Yuck.
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If it's using GPS to update your location every 10 seconds, that needs data. So I suspect, if you have this app installed, this could be your problem.
Get a data usage app that tells you what app is using how much data. If it shows that it is indeed this new T-Mobile app, there's your problem
From this post: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...more-for-me-though-were-not-sure-why-exactly/
EDIT: Not the thread I was talking about (and still trying to find!) but I have found this, which may or may not be of use: Click

redbullcat said:
I'll see if I can find the thread for you
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thanks (will even press the button when link is provided)

xnifex said:
thanks (will even press the button when link is provided)
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Look above. I'm still searching for the specific thread, if/when I find it

Hmm I don't have that app installed. There are other Tmobile apps though that seem to always be running & match the Uptime of my phone.

Get Traffic Counter from the Market and trace the data.

redbullcat said:
Get Traffic Counter from the Market and trace the data.
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Just downloaded it. I'm not concerned with data (tho still want to read that post), I'm more concerned with why a lot of apps that I don't even use seem to always be on.

I think it's because they're stock apps and the default is always on. Once we have root, we should be able to get rid of them, and once we can flash ROMs, we can install stock HTC software, or Android Revolution HD
Just another reason to have s-off and root

Ok, after downloading traffic counter, it looks like it IS my fault for the excessive data usage.
It's showing the speed test app as using 130mb of data (since last reboot, which was yesterday). I admit I went a little crazy on the speedtest app yesterday and today (I've never had 4g speeds before switching to tmobile), but why does it use SO much data? I did quite a few tests, but still.

I tried that traffic counter app. XDA is killing my data 27mb. I spend to much time at this place.
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As I'm on an unlimited data plan, I don't really care about data usage. I can go up to something like 5gb and my network (giffgaff, easily the best network in the UK) doesn't really care! The only thing I can't do is tether, but I can create a wifi hotspot for when I need to get on the internet on a bigger screen
If you're in the UK, I strongly implore you to take a look at giffgaff. Link in my sig

brian85 said:
Ok, after downloading traffic counter, it looks like it IS my fault for the excessive data usage.
It's showing the speed test app as using 130mb of data (since last reboot, which was yesterday). I admit I went a little crazy on the speedtest app yesterday and today (I've never had 4g speeds before switching to tmobile), but why does it use SO much data? I did quite a few tests, but still.
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if you have a fast connection it needs to send/receiver bigger files to get an accurate account of what your speed it. if it only used like a 512KB file then it'd show your speed as 1028238234978234978MBps.
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The only thing I can't do is tether, but I can create a wifi hotspot for when I need to get on the internet on a bigger screen
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FYI that's still tethering, just wirelessly
redbullcat said:
I think it's because they're stock apps and the default is always on. Once we have root, we should be able to get rid of them, and once we can flash ROMs, we can install stock HTC software, or Android Revolution HD
Just another reason to have s-off and root
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I'm curious then why some of the other apps show that they're running that aren't stock?

Makes sense. Time to stop using that app lol

brian85 said:
Makes sense. Time to stop using that app lol
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just did 2 tests to test the theory. 30MB down/8MB up

AT&T is going to slow down unlimited data?

Okay so they are planning on slowing you down once you reach a certain limit they set with their biggest package 4GB I would guess its around that point, how are they going to trottle everyone's speed down to a crawl? Is it going to be like they trottled everyone's speed up in the past VIA software updates? Anyway just curious what you all think and hopefully there's away to not be stuck in a rut on this one, I do a lot of streaming, and multiplayer gaming on my phone...
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maxjivi05 said:
Okay so they are planning on slowing you down once you reach a certain limit they set with their biggest package 4GB I would guess its around that point, how are they going to trottle everyone's speed down to a crawl? Is it going to be like they trottled everyone's speed up in the past VIA software updates? Anyway just curious what you all think and hopefully there's away to not be stuck in a rut on this one, I do a lot of streaming, and multiplayer gaming on my phone...
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I have the 30 dollar unlimited plan and i'm using 5-6GB a month and i seem to be fine. But i cant imagine what other people are using.

It's not in effect yet, I do between 6 and 16 depending on if I'm downloading new roms and stuff too, but its suppose to be effective soon.
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According to the post on ATT Website, they are putting it into effect on October 1st.
Secondaly, they are only capping the extreme few that are using CRAZY amounts of data, and taht number was WAY WAY above 4g data.
I spoke to a friend at ATT and he stated that currently the cap was at 10gigs. Now, that could change but who knows.
The data throttling is not being done VIA software and such but instead a change to your plan. All ATT phones are tracked via IMEI numbers and thus the way they know who has what number and what data/messaging packages. All they are doing is making a change to your plan that will only allow you to access the EDGE network.
I can see this possibly being bypassed but will have to wait till the change hits to see what can be done to bypass this.

What dept does your friend work in? Mine read about what's going on when and stuff but they didn't give him exact info like how or what the limit was. Edge don't even work when I try so that wouldnt be right because it takes 5 minutes to load a Facebook status.. anyway whatever happens I hope the limit is a bit higher then 10 sometimes I hit 16 and I don't do mobile hotspots, and i connect to WiFi at home. Let's hope for a work around if so!
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I miss having wifi at my work. I use my wireless at home. My '4G' is pretty fast at my house though (4-5mbps).

Wow i'm dreading this I drive a truck for a living and use the wifi tether allot to play my x-box. This is going to hurt hope someone finds a work around!
P.M. please lift this 5 minute post restriction!
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Playing xbox? Wow! I have tried before and never get a good connection.

It depends allot on the host I connect to on black ops and where I am
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No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
mulio33 said:
Wow i'm dreading this I drive a truck for a living and use the wifi tether allot to play my x-box. This is going to hurt hope someone finds a work around!
P.M. please lift this 5 minute post restriction!
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cavsoldier19d said:
No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.

Agoattamer said:
+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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Wharz link?
Saved and Texan by the grace of God, Redneck by choice.

cavsoldier19d said:
No offense but its people like you is the reason why tethering has been such a huge issue. Tethering (if you are not paying for it) should only be used for necessity or minor things like checking your email, post a Facebook status message, or upload a photo, so that you are not abusing the feature and bogging down the network/tower you are connected to.
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Well no offense but you don't know anything about me. I have maybe time for 2 matches a weak! I don't abuse anything. I have never gone over 5 gigs in a month. And as mentioned I live in a truck i'm exactly the reason tethering is out there!
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Guys how he does his tethering is his business not ours
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It's all funny you guys are panicking. The slowdown is only going to be relevant to the top 5% of users according to my buddy who works in their corporate offices.
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Hiyabuz said:
It's all funny you guys are panicking. The slowdown is only going to be relevant to the top 5% of users according to my buddy who works in their corporate offices.
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Ive learned that att lies it will not be 5% it will be to whom ever they wish. My perdition is one people hit the 4g tether plain the brakes will be on.
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why so horrified? if you write a check and there isn't enough cash in the account to cover it, are you surprised when the bank dings your account with a huge fee?

Top 5% users..... yeah right.
We all know how this is going to happened, you hit a certain cap, say about 10GB, then they throttle you to slower then EDGE speeds.
It's all their plan to ruin unlimited data for unlimited data users......
Hopefully though, the cap is high, or they ACTUALLY tell the truth for once and only throttle the top 5%, which I'm probably nowhere near (I use 3-4GB a month), so I really won't have to worry about it, but it sucks for people who use 10-15GB a month without tethering, you must not have wifi around where you normally are. :/

Agoattamer said:
+1 on that one. Won't be long though. All carriers are cracking down and just read something new on the net that google is even getting involved with blocking illegal and/or abusive tethering in the near future.
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HEY IM with you. I use tethering and dont pay, but I never never gostreaming and never go about 4 at the most. Most of the time It is2. I have unlimited data. For god sakes it a cell phone not a pc people

If you have the grandfather unlimited plan, are they slowing that down too?
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Notification Bar ads on Android

While it has been rumored and feared practically since the operating system's creation, one of the nightmare scenarios for some unlucky Android users has finally become very real. Japan's second largest mobile carrier, KDDI, has gone where no carrier has dared before and has begun disguising advertisements as system notifications on their Android devices.
It seems that an app bundled with KDDI devices is the cause of the controversial ad system. The "au one market" is a secondary market application that comes with most of the smartphones on the carrier's service. This newest evil addition came in the form of an update which prompted the user with two warnings.
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1. au one Market app stays resident even when you are not using the app, 2. notification space will be used to inform good deals to customers.
There are similar ad experiences from certain applications and services already in the U.S. but this is the first time we've seen this behavior from an actual mobile carrier. It's scary to think of this becoming common place so be sure to voice your opposition on this sort of guerrilla advertising to your carrier representatives before it's too late. This is also just all the more reason to keep your rootz skills as up to date as possible. Removing that carrier bloatware is becoming seemingly more and more essential these days....
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Read for yourself here

Yea the app tunee in the market does this. To detect what apps use air push on your phone they have a app called air push detector. I think that's what its called. Just search the market for air push
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sckboy78 said:
Yea the app tunee in the market does this. To detect what apps use air push on your phone they have a app called air push detector. I think that's what its called. Just search the market for air push
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lol no, I personally don't have this problem, just putting it out there.

saranhai said:
lol no, I personally don't have this problem, just putting it out there.
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Oh I know but it is coming. Tunee is doing it and I'm sure more will follow suit. I'd hate to think carriers will actually put these on the phones themselves. Thanks for the read. I was telling anyone with that problem to use that app.
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sckboy78 said:
Oh I know but it is coming. Tunee is doing it and I'm sure more will follow suit. I'd hate to think carriers will actually put these on the phones themselves. Thanks for the read.
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Apps are one thing. If an app uses ads, I simply don't use it or I buy the premium ad-free version. However, carriers including it on their phones in such a way that the user cannot remove it is a whole different thing. It's despicable. Their revenue from subscription fees isn't enough? They have to include advertising on the phones themselves to boost revenue? It's greedy and despicable, at least in the view of someone who hates ads and does everything possible to block them on both phones and computers.