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Hi,
I want to flash a new radio to my Sensation as I currently have a really bad battery life and thought it could maybe be the result of an non-matched radio. (Updated to Android Revolution HD 3.0.0 yesterday)
My bootloader tells me I'm Ship S-OFF, but I've read that I'd need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio, but could not find any guide telling me how to "do that".
Do I need ENG S-OFF? If so, how can I get it?
Thanks for your help.
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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Btw, I'm not sure if you need ENG S-OFF to flash a radio
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
idavid_ said:
Find Bin4ry's thread in dev section (it's a little hard to find, old thread but still) and inside that thread you can download PG58IMG.zip file. Then just flash that file and that's it
Edit: Here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122053
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I've already installed one PG58IMG.zip file a few weeks ago, which was a bit "bigger". Am I supposed to just install the "new" one "over" the old one? Or will there be problems?
crunkin said:
Thanks for the reply. Does anyone else know if I really need ENG S-OFF to flash a new Radio? I don't want to do it if I don't need it..
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You do not need ENG S-OFF to flash a new radio.
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What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
claudenegm said:
What is ENG S-Off used for anyway? Installing a new ROM overwrites the radio though?
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Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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raybez said:
Installing a new ROM does not override the radio, installing a new radio does. If you don't know what ENG hboot does, don't flash it. You don't need it, and if you don't know what youre doing you can brick your phone.
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I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
claudenegm said:
I do know what I'm doing (I think xD). I just mixed up all the information I got, so I wanted things to be cleared up a bit.
What I just want to know is, what is the difference between Ship S-Off and Eng S-Off? What is responsible for giving acces to Nand making me able to install a custom ROM? Ship S-Off, right?
I'm really confused right now xD
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Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks alot, it helped
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raybez said:
Ship S-OFF is enough to flash a recovery so you can flash a ROM. If your ROM needs a different radio the chef will let you know and will likely provide instructions to upgrade. ENG s-off opens up more commands that can potentially break a phone if you do the wrong things.
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Thanks i now finally know the difference between eng s off and ship s off
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how to (ENG S-OFF) the SENSATION
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
yazan86 said:
hi,,, thanks for all the information it was usefull,,,
-but do anyone knows how to Eng S-OFF the sensation????
i have done to much searching for but there was none....
-also i concluded that in order to flash a radio on my sensation I must be
ENG S-OFF not only Ship S-OFF (ex: the revelution HD Radio) ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098849 )
when i tried to follow the procedure to flash the rom I get (not allowed message; which means that i dont have ENG S-OFF)
htc sensation rooted
ship S-OFF
Android revelution HD 3.0.0
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Look at my first post in this thread (1 page back)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
PhuongHoang said:
I'm using HTC incredible S 710e, my phone is Eng S-OFF, how to change Ship S-OFF...
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First of all, wrong forum. Second, why would you want that? I guess you can get S-ON again and then run revolutionary again
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[FIRMWARE-LATEST RADIO] 2.08.401.1 Sensation Firmware & latest Radio - Advanced users
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Thanks for the share. I got a few questions though. Is this from the ROM that was leaked two months ago (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281040)?
The version number are the same but i'm curious on why the radio/hboot come out now instead of two months ago when the ROM as leaked.
sumasage said:
Thanks for the share. I got a few questions though. Is this from the ROM that was leaked two months ago (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281040)?
The version number are the same but i'm curious on why the radio/hboot come out now instead of two months ago when the ROM as leaked.
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Yes that's the same I guess.
The RUU wasn't shared to all as it could have been used not properly.
It just spread widely recently
my hboot is 1.17 can i upgrade it? or if i use this radio will there be a problem?
adakaya1994 said:
my hboot is 1.17 can i upgrade it? or if i use this radio will there be a problem?
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It looks like the Radio is not stable with previous firmware (hboot 1.17/hboot 1.18). As my advise don't flash this radio with hboot 1.17/ hboot 1.18, you will face too many stability problems
You should not use it with hboot 1.17
gamikzone said:
It looks like the Radio is not stable with previous firmware (hboot 1.17/hboot 1.18). As my advise don't flash this radio with hboot 1.17/ hboot 1.18, you will face too many stability problems
You should not use it with hboot 1.17
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Anyway i flashed radio for try But not any problems so far everything works
adakaya1994 said:
Anyway i flashed radio for try But not any problems so far everything works
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If its just the radio you will experience some reboots. Try the whole firmware, than flash the eng hboot afterwards.
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So how do i get my hboot to 1.19 ??
d3vilskid said:
If its just the radio you will experience some reboots. Try the whole firmware, than flash the eng hboot afterwards.
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I agree with you, did in same way, and working without any issue!
I think Hboot 1.19 is included in his bootloader zip and it will be updated when flashing that zip via bootloader.
Correct me if i'm wrong.
d3vilskid said:
If its just the radio you will experience some reboots. Try the whole firmware, than flash the eng hboot afterwards.
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Yep, randomly reboots..
Than:
krot84 said:
So how do i get my hboot to 1.19 ??
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What's the advantage of doing this? Does it make 2.08 base more stable? If I update to hb1.19 will that bugger things up if i go back to older radio for a sense 3 rom? Let's face it 2.08 is not stable as 2.3.4. After I restore all my apps I get force close on system process and reboots
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If i upgrade hboot to 1.19,can i downgrade to 1.18?
installed bootloader image and now its 1.19.0000 radio : 11.15.3504.16_m
it says s-off but locked ? what does it mean?
I think you could try unlock it by guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
you can use the htcdev unlock so it says unlocked
how do i change the splash1 to my own can you change a file in PG58IMG, as it wont let me change it via adb/fastboot now just says failed?
jerrylzy said:
If i upgrade hboot to 1.19,can i downgrade to 1.18?
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In a word
No
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biojo said:
you can use the htcdev unlock so it says unlocked
how do i change the splash1 to my own can you change a file in PG58IMG, as it wont let me change it via adb/fastboot now just says failed?
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If you've updated the radio and hboot its made u s-on so u can't
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I am closing thsi thread as it doesn't go as it should...
Steve0007 said:
I am closing thsi thread as it doesn't go as it should...
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Prob a wise idea until revolutionary crack thus hboot
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Here new Froyo RUU for Desire
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c04...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_224699_signed.exe
Enjoy!
is there any change-log about this??..or only a new radio??
Is it true? and any change log?
Or just the radio upgrade?
could someone upload a rooted version pls?
Wouldn't this be part of HTC removing the patents they lost against apple? HTC are ment to be releasing new updates for all phones.
And then again.. Why would they release a new update of froyo when Gingerbread was released?
This makes no sense?
Wouter06 said:
And then again.. Why would they release a new update of froyo when Gingerbread was released?
This makes no sense?
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in fact it makes sense kinda cos they never did release ota ginger. the last official for the desire its still the froyo and the ginger ruu was only for developers and not officialy supported.
shankly1985 said:
Wouldn't this be part of HTC removing the patents they lost against apple? HTC are ment to be releasing new updates for all phones.
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That's the best guess, very smart.
for CDMA or GSM ?
aliensk said:
in fact it makes sense kinda cos they never did release ota ginger. the last official for the desire its still the froyo and the ginger ruu was only for developers and not officialy supported.
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y00 sure it is not official ?
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erklat said:
y00 sure it is not official ?
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yes im sure. if u remember when u installed the gb from htc you were reminded that "this is only for developer use" and htc will not offer support for the users of desire gb phones. and it was clear for everyone that htc will not spend more man hours on updating our lovely but old device
seaofmemories said:
for CDMA or GSM ?
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GSM, Android 2.2.2
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aliensk said:
yes im sure. if u remember when u installed the gb from htc you were reminded that "this is only for developer use" and htc will not offer support for the users of desire gb phones. and it was clear for everyone that htc will not spend more man hours on updating our lovely but old device
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No, I don't remember seeing that as I didn't run that ruu. But - I do remember reading the License agreement which clearly states this:
Is this the official update for HTC Desire to Gingerbread?
Yes, this is the official update for HTC Desire to Gingerbread.
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My Desire is rooted, S-Off and HBOOT is changed. If I install RUU, can it reset everything including S-Off and HBOOT ?
necrocavus said:
My Desire is rooted, S-Off and HBOOT is changed. If I install RUU, can it reset everything including S-Off and HBOOT ?
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Not sure, probably not s-off. What's hboot version?
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Lothaen said:
Not sure, probably not s-off. What's hboot version?
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Bravo Oxygen r2.
Website has two confusing explanation:
1. "Downgrade protection, these HBOOTs cannot be overwritten by an OTA or RUU, unless you flash a downgrader HBOOT first."
2. "Will my phone stay S-OFF forever?
Yes and no. As soon as you decide to flash a stock RUU that has a HBOOT update in it, this hacked HBOOT will be overwritten."
necrocavus said:
Bravo Oxygen r2.
Website has two confusing explanation:
1. "Downgrade protection, these HBOOTs cannot be overwritten by an OTA or RUU, unless you flash a downgrader HBOOT first."
2. "Will my phone stay S-OFF forever?
Yes and no. As soon as you decide to flash a stock RUU that has a HBOOT update in it, this hacked HBOOT will be overwritten."
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That's an old info, flash the downgrader hboot from alpharev, after it run the ruu
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Does anyone extracted and tried the new radio?
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That's an old info, flash the downgrader hboot from alpharev, after it run the ruu
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Ok thanks. When I flashed HBOOT, there was no downgrader on website. Maybe I don't need downgrade. But I will do anyway as you suggested.
I have Galaxy Note now, I want to sell this. That's why I need stock.
Thanks
The radio is old, we have it already
because of some funny forum regulations I have to ask here...
Does
[ROM][May 23]Virtuous Saga v.1.0.0 [3.04.401.1][Sense 3.6 Android 4.0.4]
support 2WCR(two way call recording) as his older brother Virtuos Affinity which I am using since december??
If not then when expected to implement that?
Hope some developers of this ROM will read and answer
No. This is a kernel feature and the source for the 3.0 kernel isn't available so it can't be added to the ROM.
dan-fish said:
No. This is a kernel feature and the source for the 3.0 kernel isn't available so it can't be added to the ROM.
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thx for very quick answer-explanation!
so now going back to Affinity and waiting for 3.0 kernel leakage
hey,
I don`t want to create new topic just for one question, so I`ll ask here.
I`ve installed this ROM without flashing radio. everything works fine. Do I need to flash radio anyway? Later I`d like to migrate to Primo-S ROM, cause sense 4 I like more than sense 3.6.
hboot 2.00.0002
current radio 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.804_M
Thanks
tedis666 said:
hey,
I don`t want to create new topic just for one question, so I`ll ask here.
I`ve installed this ROM without flashing radio. everything works fine. Do I need to flash radio anyway? Later I`d like to migrate to Primo-S ROM, cause sense 4 I like more than sense 3.6.
hboot 2.00.0002
current radio 20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.804_M
Thanks
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If you don't have a problem with your current radio, then it's not necessary to flash the new one. It's really completely up to you.
Edit: I just saw your hboot; if you're S-on, you won't be able to flash a new radio anyway.
miz_pimp said:
Edit: I just saw your hboot; if you're S-on, you won't be able to flash a new radio anyway.
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my phone is S-OFF
tedis666 said:
my phone is S-OFF
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Awesome, well, then you can decide whether you want to flash the radio, or not I, personally, have seen a huge improvement with the latest radio, but that could be the total opposite for you. So try the radio out for a day or two, and if you have any problems, you can always just flash your old radio again.
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Awesome, well, then you can decide whether you want to flash the radio, or not I, personally, have seen a huge improvement with the latest radio, but that could be the total opposite for you. So try the radio out for a day or two, and if you have any problems, you can always just flash your old radio again.
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I wonder, where I may faind any info about differencies between various radios ?
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tedis666 said:
my phone is S-OFF
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I too have hboot 2.00.0002, but I can't find a way to S-OFF it.
Just saw it comment while going throughthe thread, can u tell how is your phone s-off?
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tedis666 said:
I wonder, where I may faind any info about differencies between various radios ?
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You'll have to check the Index thread for downloads of the radios.
Can I flash this Rom as S-ON on hboot 2.00.002, because the op say's I need to be S-OFF ??
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any tip, help would be apreciated.
im a old semi-dev (like semi-god lol just a joke) but mostly for samsung and motorola devices.
this is mmm, lets say my semi first HTC device, i briked accidentaly a HTC Sensation 4g, resiving an ota, i forget to change my cid.
There is no best way, there are many ways.
If you are s-off, just run a ruu of your choice with the hboot you want.
Check what cid you need for the ruu (HTC__xxx) (because a ruu will still do checks). I prefer a og HTCcid over supercid anyday, you have experienced that already.
cid is now easy to change with a fastboot command (or leave the supercid).
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blackwing182 said:
any tip, help would be apreciated.
im a old semi-dev (like semi-god lol just a joke) but mostly for samsung and motorola devices.
this is mmm, lets say my semi first HTC device, i briked accidentaly a HTC Sensation 4g, resiving an ota, i forget to change my cid.
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I have to ask this but why would you with S-Off?
Darknites said:
I have to ask this but why would you with S-Off?
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I like lower hboots, like 1.06 or if i can find the 1.04 hboot would be better.
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blackwing182 said:
I like lower hboots, like 1.06 or if i can find the 1.04 hboot would be better.
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But they slower.
Darknites said:
But they slower.
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Slower, why?
I have hboot 1.06 and i am willing to change to a higher hboot if it worked better than 1.06
jujusito said:
Slower, why?
I have hboot 1.06 and i am willing to change to a higher hboot if it worked better than 1.06
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Its a bit slower going into bootloader or recovery its not much so up to if you want to upgrade also a newer one don't have the loading bar.
Run the RUU
Safest way to downgrade your hboot to 1.06 is to install the shipped rom RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.53.401.2_Radio_0.15.31501S.19_10.12.31501S.06L_release_251412_signed.exe
codf4ther said:
Safest way to downgrade your hboot to 1.06 is to install the shipped rom RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.53.401.2_Radio_0.15.31501S.19_10.12.31501S.06L_release_251412_signed.exe
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that would brick my phone i think
btw whats the new Hboot 1.14 have new?
AW: [Question] Best way to downgrade Hboot now that we have s-off?
The newest Hboot is 2.15 and why should a ruu will brick your phone?
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blackwing182 said:
that would brick my phone i think
btw whats the new Hboot 1.14 have new?
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Updates to piss us off before S-Off lol. I just don't see the point in doing this with S-Off, if we didn't then ya downgrading was good but now to me its bad.
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NQNH said:
The newest Hboot is 2.15 and why should a ruu will brick your phone?
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Why would an OTA brick a phone?