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I noticed that I had a lot of battery usage from 'Cell Standy' so I put together this update that removes the phone apks that have to deal with the phone system, which doesn't exist on this device. I have only tested this on CM6.1b4 rom. It only deletes 4 apks. Afterwards you won't see cell standby in the battery usage. Use at own risk, and backup system first.
On a side note, I followed this thread as well to reduce redraw lag for the home screen, seems much faster now: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bu...draw-launcherpro-adw-credit-samsonite801.html
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I noticed that I had a lot of battery usage from 'Cell Standy' so I put together this update that removes the phone apks that have to deal with the phone system, which doesn't exist on this device. I have only tested this on CM6.1b4 rom. It only deletes 4 apks. Afterwards you won't see cell standby in the battery usage. Use at own risk, and backup system first.
On a side note, I followed this thread as well to reduce redraw lag for the home screen, seems much faster now: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/bu...draw-launcherpro-adw-credit-samsonite801.html
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Thanks for the shortcut... For those of us that 'may' already have removed some of the .apk's, could you list which ones you have removed in this?
i dont have this usage. tnt doesnt come with that because vs knew they didn't add cellular resources anyways. but i could be wrong. but i have no usage with that title. however 12% is used by (blank) no name
h4x0rjdag said:
i dont have this usage. tnt doesnt come with that because vs knew they didn't add cellular resources anyways. but i could be wrong. but i have no usage with that title. however 12% is used by (blank) no name
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Right. CM is made for phones only so far, and Zpad versions do have a radio. So, that is what this would be useful for.
Thanks for putting this together, I'll have to check it out.
Rothnic.. Please let us know what you find out.... It would probably be just as easy to remove the apk's with root explorer, unless there's something else?
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Yes it would be just as easy to remove with root explorer, I just wanted to experiment with creating an update for my own learning as well. The apk's are Phone, Mms, VioceDialer, and TelephonyProvider.
i'm curious, when i try to install google voice it won't let me becuase it tries to pull voicemail settings. if i were to slap that services on my TnT would it let me install ? lol
h4x0rjdag said:
i'm curious, when i try to install google voice it won't let me becuase it tries to pull voicemail settings. if i were to slap that services on my TnT would it let me install ? lol
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I have google voice installed, but can't configure it, hangs on the voicemail even thou I tell it to skip voicemail. I don't have that apk installed either, not sure if I removed it manually. I believe other people have been able to get it configured, but not working still.
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I have google voice installed, but can't configure it, hangs on the voicemail even thou I tell it to skip voicemail. I don't have that apk installed either, not sure if I removed it manually. I believe other people have been able to get it configured, but not working still.
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I've used Titanium backup to backup GV from my EVO4G and then transferred the files to my CM6.1b4 gTablet and restored it there. Works perfectly...
Although... for some reason I cannot call out using GV
Works on Zpad, (only Phone an Telephony present). I added a link here for the the patch on the zpad page.
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Rothnic.. Please let us know what you find out.... It would probably be just as easy to remove the apk's with root explorer, unless there's something else?
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Works, but wouldn't use root explorer. You will get FC immediately after deleting the first one, and won't be able to delete the second.
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Works, but wouldn't use root explorer. You will get FC immediately after deleting the first one, and won't be able to delete the second.
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You could use titanium backup to remove them, I don't believe you will get the FC with that.
@rothnic had the force crash loop here last night when removing phone.apk with Root Explorer. The good news is I force rebooted, removed the one other APK I could find from this list, and all seems well with my tablet. But I agree with you, better to use this update.zip than to try Root Explorer, or frankly to remove these APKs when the system is running by any method. It angers the Android gods.
I gave this a shot last night using rootexplorer, I had never any battery issues but what the heck everyone else is doing it. My gtab only had 2 files when I deleted them I got into the FC loop also. After getting the Gtab to reboot It seemed to load fine but after about 30 seconds I started getting a Googleframwork FC, my market and gtalk stopped working and ever time I cleared the message things seemed to be normal but only for a little while, the tablet also started running very poorly.
In the end I had been needing to clean up a few thing I had done with the tablet and it just seemed faster to wipe and start over so that's what I did.
All is well now and until I see some battery issue I think this is where I'll stay.
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I gave this a shot last night using rootexplorer, I had never any battery issues but what the heck everyone else is doing it. My gtab only had 2 files when I deleted them I got into the FC loop also. After getting the Gtab to reboot It seemed to load fine but after about 30 seconds I started getting a Googleframwork FC, my market and gtalk stopped working and ever time I cleared the message things seemed to be normal but only for a little while, the tablet also started running very poorly.
In the end I had been needing to clean up a few thing I had done with the tablet and it just seemed faster to wipe and start over so that's what I did.
All is well now and until I see some battery issue I think this is where I'll stay.
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Which ROM are you running?
I will admit that I did not run any battery tests or longevity tests, so I don't know how much this improves battery at all, and the battery life is already great. I just know that it was using 30% of my battery, and I didn't like that since it is not a phone, and can't be a phone (at least not at the moment unless we get hacks or 3g modems working) .And I would rather use something like google voice/sykpe with this anyway.
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I gave this a shot last night using rootexplorer, I had never any battery issues but what the heck everyone else is doing it. My gtab only had 2 files when I deleted them I got into the FC loop also. After getting the Gtab to reboot It seemed to load fine but after about 30 seconds I started getting a Googleframwork FC, my market and gtalk stopped working and ever time I cleared the message things seemed to be normal but only for a little while, the tablet also started running very poorly.
In the end I had been needing to clean up a few thing I had done with the tablet and it just seemed faster to wipe and start over so that's what I did.
All is well now and until I see some battery issue I think this is where I'll stay.
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Grey - I likewise deleted the 2 APKs that were present with my ZPad 2.0 install. I believe I may have had a FC in Google Services Framework the first time I rebooted right after I deleted those APKs too, if memory serves me correctly.
However, after a second reboot, everything was completely fine, and has been fine since.
I have now rebooted probably 4-5 times, and have been very actively using my G tab for the last 48 hours or so without the phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk files. In fact, I've gone through at least one full battery charge of usage as I was actively web browsing and using my tablet during downtime at work all day yesterday, watching video, etc.
If there were a persistent issue with Market or Google Services Framework, I am pretty sure I would have discovered it by now... I've downloaded and installed a bunch of apps via Market since.
My only caveat - I do not use Google Talk at all, which you mentioned using. Both Google Talk and Google Voice apps start fine though, no FCs there. My calendar and contacts are syncing fine. So there can't be any dependencies by the core stuff your G tablet needs on those two APKs.
My battery life is fantastic now. I believe it was good but slightly less fantastic in ZPad before deleting these APKs, but I never really measured it so I have no quantitative basis to compare.
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Grey - I likewise deleted the 2 APKs that were present with my ZPad 2.0 install. I believe I may have had a FC in Google Services Framework the first time I rebooted right after I deleted those APKs too, if memory serves me correctly.
However, after a second reboot, everything was completely fine, and has been fine since.
I have now rebooted probably 4-5 times, and have been very actively using my G tab for the last 48 hours or so without the phone.apk and telephonyprovider.apk files. In fact, I've gone through at least one full battery charge of usage as I was actively web browsing and using my tablet during downtime at work all day yesterday, watching video, etc.
If there were a persistent issue with Market or Google Services Framework, I am pretty sure I would have discovered it by now... I've downloaded and installed a bunch of apps via Market since.
My only caveat - I do not use Google Talk at all, which you mentioned using. Both Google Talk and Google Voice apps start fine though, no FCs there. My calendar and contacts are syncing fine. So there can't be any dependencies by the core stuff your G tablet needs on those two APKs.
My battery life is fantastic now. I believe it was good but slightly less fantastic in ZPad before deleting these APKs, but I never really measured it so I have no quantitative basis to compare.
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Yeah, this was my same experience. I think I might have cleared cache also, just in case.
h4x0rjdag said:
i dont have this usage. tnt doesnt come with that because vs knew they didn't add cellular resources anyways. but i could be wrong. but i have no usage with that title. however 12% is used by (blank) no name
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HEY! Viewsonic did something right with the FW afterall!
How do I run this?
I use a Eken M006. Do do I run your application?
Thanks
Sergio
Having an issue trying to install new apps from Market place. When I finish downloading an app, and its trying to install I get an error saying that "installation unsuccessful" I try 5 different apps and all getting the same error...... I reboot my TF and also clear data and cache, and I am still getting this error. I have about 500MB left on my drive. No root and on the latest firmware. I was able to install couple of days ago.........Android is pissing me off.
This was something else i experienced with low space. I think its becausw the partition is full. try deleting a big app like google earth
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This was something else i experienced with low space. I think its becausw the partition is full. try deleting a big app like google earth
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Even tho I have 500MB left? Actually I was trying to download google earth and it was giving me that error. Is there a place where it tells me that Im close to over the limit in installing apps?
me too
I have the same problem in my Transformer and from I have seen only resetting the tablet to default solves it. But the worse thing is that it will reproduce after a few days. Perhaps a specific application that we are installing do this? But I don't know what application or if it is any other problem. Sometimes Android feels like windows 95, when more applications you install more likely it will break (in the last windows versions it will slowdown).
In my phone Galaxy S 2 suddenly I cannot record audio anymore, no matter what program.
There are other threads talking about this problem of not being able to install programs pointing that it reproduces (as me) but without clear solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062316&highlight=can't+install+app
Is there any way to at least install all applications after a reset from default from some type of list? (without root privileges)
Hi!
I just got my SK4G the other week, and migrated over from a Motorola Milestone. I was using the brilliant 'Tasker' App on my Milestone, and when it came to getting the SK4G, I backed up my tasks and profiles, and am using the same SD card with the Sidekick.
My problem is that while all of the profiles I had set up are working fine, I am unable to create new ones because of the app continuously force closing. Whenever I try to set up a task, as soon as I get to the dialog to choose what actions to run, I get a short vibration, a pause, and then three quick vibrations followed by a force close. The rest of the app functions fine, and the tasks I'd already set up work perfectly.
I have tried:
Uninstalling and reinstalling the app,
Removing my backed up preferences and creating tasks on default settings,
Using a task killer to free up RAM,
Rebooting,
Waiting a few days and trying again,
although nothing is working. I am still unable to use the app, as this unexplainable force closes prevent me from doing anything.
I know what you're thinking, "Go ask the Tasker forums!" but I just thought I would try here, seeing as it's a fairly popular app and the phone is only new I think I would have better chance finding someone who also uses the app on SK4G and might be able to enlighten me or tell me they have the same problem.
So, anyone got any ideas? Anyone using Tasker without problems on SK4G?
When you tried to install it on your SK4g, did you download it from the Market or did you just install the APK from your old phone?
I downloaded it from the market again, although its not impossible that there could have been some app files left behind on the sd card. Do you know what they would look like?
Thanks for helping!
Also, I'm just headed to bed, so don't expect another reply immediately
I've got Tasker working just fine here, that might just be some part of having the old files on your phone. Can you pull off everything that you copied over and try to redownload it from Market to see if that works without an FC?
I'm cleaning out my SD card now, getting rid of any extra Tasker files, and going to try that, although I can't actually uninstall the app. I do it via the market and it still shows up and I can still open it... This is with the SD card mounted and unavailable...
why can't you uninstall it? you should be able to just click uninstall in the applications list? it isn't a system app so there shouldn't be a problem there. also, why is your sdcard mounted but unavailable? that's just confusing. maybe that's why it can't uninstall? if it's installed to your sdcard, maybe it can't get to the application to uninstall it?
Sorry, by 'mounted' I meant to say that I was using the usb mass storage so the SD card was unavailable.
I ended up working out that I had given Tasker some kind of permissions in security settings, and had to disable that to uninstall.
Went through with uninstall, formatted my SD card and tried from scratch with Tasker again. No luck. Have now restored my profiles so I can keep using them until I sort it out.
huh. that's weird. and you reinstalled from market, not from an apk?
Yep! nothing makes sense!
Have you been able to completely uninstall it from your phone through settings?
I did completely uninstall, yes. I then re-downloaded from the market and I'm getting the same thing.
and what exactly are you doing in tasker when it force closes?
I get FC whenever I try to click the + button to add an action to a task.
I also asked the Tasker forums/google groups thing, and they told me to install a beta version, and I have and it fixed everything
So if anyone else has been having these problems just grab the latest beta of Tasker from here:
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/beta.html
The reson it fc is cuz u r stopping processes which are need to run for the device to work.......Well I will be honest with you,if ur talking about a task killer....ITS POINT LESS....unless u are a dev and plane to us ur phone for deving....because no matter how much ur stop things well they will just start runing againg and well the appes are waste of space if u want to spot app, go to mune,then apps, manage apps and stop the ones u don't want....
No, Tasker is something completely different - it lets you automate lots of Android things
So for a few weeks now, my phone has been unable to remember the ringtone I set for either SMS or phone calls. every time I set it it works, but as soon as I reboot the phone or unmount the sd card then remount, it forgets both tones and picks one of the songs on my sd card as the new tone.
I first noticed it after I was having some problems with btunes (my preferred music app) crashing, so I decided to clear the cache and data in Media Storage from the "Manage applications" menu. I learned to do this from the developer of another music app I had problems with, and thought it was worth a try.
ever since then, i've had the problem. I don't know why. To be fair, I MIGHT have had the problem before that, since I had only had the phone for 2 weeks at that point and didn't pay attention to it due to finals, so I wasn't doing much rebooting, and anyway the ringer volume was probably off the whole time. My memory is fuzzy about the ringtones working before that point. It was definitely happening before I rooted though, so I know that's not the problem.
anyway, help? on a side note, it always seems to automatically pick the same 2 songs for the 2 replacement ringers once I reboot. I'm not sure why, especially since they're not in the media/audio folder anywhere, and don't show up as potential ringtones when you look in any "pick ringtone" menu.
If you are rooted I would say reboot into recovery and clear dalvik-cache.
Sounds like that's where a setting is hiding.
I had this problem too when I was on Bulletproof 1.0, then when I switched to 1.1 it stopped. I don't think it was necessarily rom related, but maybe something to do with the wiping when changing roms.
I've had my (rooted stock ROM) MT4GS forget its notification settings a couple times - for me they usually stay set for a while, but after some time and/or reboots will come back wrong (not always the same wrong either- a few times it has picked notifications from my music folder, other times from the default sounds).
The problem seemed to start after I put another Android device (CM partition on my Touchpad) on my Google account, so I've been operating under the assumption that it is some kind of bug with settings synchronization. Unfortunately, it isn't very repeatable so I've never pinned the behavior down exactly.
I don't know if the issues are related, but gathering information on similar problems will hopefully let someone zero in on the issue.
the settings sync issue is worth checking, especially since I still have my Transform Ultra that I sometimes have turned on at home on wifi. I checked it, and the ringers were set on something else, So I matched them to the MT4GS and we'll see what happens.
I'm not sure that's the culprit, though, since this only happens when I restart the phone or re-mount the card. seems like settings sync wouldn't be an issue there, though I may be wrong.
I have the same issue with MT4GS and mines is certainly not rooted yet. The phone is only a couple weeks old. But its annoying. Sometimes I don't even have to reboot, sometimes it randomly just happens. IDK what to think of it.
I always shut off settings sync during setup and this used to happen to me.
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I always shut off settings sync during setup and this used to happen to me.
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You mena the initial setup of the phone? and how did you stop it?
Yeah its the google "backup my device" crap malfunctioning. Its dumb because what do u want it to backup? Texts, logs... What does it backup? Apps and bullcrap. If u want to start over, y can't I install apps individually? Or just give me the lists of crap ur gonna reinstall on my phone and let me select what I want....
Anyways, turn it off, reboot, sync, before nandroid/rom flashing and then don't use it on fresh install.
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You mena the initial setup of the phone? and how did you stop it?
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See Etrick's post right under yours.
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ok, so what you're saying is, google's sync system is flawed so it periodically screws up the ringer settings on my phone, by attempting to "correct" them to the server information? why doesn't it just upload the knew info of the correct ringtone when I deliberately change it?
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ok, so what you're saying is, google's sync system is flawed so it periodically screws up the ringer settings on my phone, by attempting to "correct" them to the server information? why doesn't it just upload the knew info of the correct ringtone when I deliberately change it?
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That's what she said... PRECISELY what I don't understand. It seems as though everythings good, you've set your phone up after a fresh install, and everytime you make changes it syncs and instead of uploading the new stuff, it downloads the old. It may be something we are doing wrong by hacking our phones and some setting somewhere is missing or a simple kernel command is confusing it or who knows... Maybe its google's fault... All I know is, its annoying. It should get rid of your issue.
On a side note, there may be some settings for this hidden in some settings you can only find via pc. Like buried in google voice or plus or chrome or some now defunct google product you can no longer log into... Perhaps some digging there. I've found little to no documentation on the phone end...
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hmmm, well it can't be hacking, because this was happening before I had the phone hacked. also, oddly enough, I also have a different off line phone as a spare that's on the same android version, 2.3.4, yet does not have this problem. of course, that one's stock Android, not infected with Sense.....
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hmmm, well it can't be hacking, because this was happening before I had the phone hacked. also, oddly enough, I also have a different off line phone as a spare that's on the same android version, 2.3.4, yet does not have this problem. of course, that one's stock Android, not infected with Sense.....
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Well... If it happened prior to hacking, then it's not google backup. So go with other possibilities... Phone is hosed... Sd card hosed... (Have u tried selecting various tones on card or in your system media folder within your phone?)... Or is that other phone ever on? Could be going back to that sync issue. Turn it on and then see if its connecting to wifi and syncing. Which ringtone r u stuck on?
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My phone started doing this after I swapped SD cards with a larger one. I just had to go in, change it to something else, then change it back. Been working fine since.
Hello, I've had the unlocked Note 10+ for a few weeks and have had chronic issues since day one and not really sure what to do about it. A lot of the issues seem to get worse over time. Not sure if the problems are related, but it feels like it.
First, I have MMS issues mostly with any other app but the built in messaging app and even that one isn't perfect. Using Textra for instance will get me MMS timeouts sending and receiving and sometimes messages don't send or come in. This seems to happen with or without wifi enabled.
Next, I'm getting delayed notifications on many if not all apps. Notifications will some in here or there, then all of a sudden I'll get all the notifications for the day all at once. So suddenly my phone is going crazy receiving 50 notifications from different apps all at once. Related to that, if I get a notification and click on it to open the related app, often nothing happens. Then like an hour or more later the app I clicked on for the notification will pop open in the middle of doing something else. It will also get hung up installing or updating apps. A reboot will usually clear this but at some point it get's stuck again and will take hours to install an app if it does at all.
I've done all the usual things like disabling battery optimization for the apps in question, set the phone to high performance mode. Uninstalled and reinstalled things, cleared the cache partition, reset network settings, checked APN settings, even now have factory reset the phone, twice, got a new SIM card. Talked to Samsung and they tell me I need to mail it to their repair depot in Texas if I think it's hardware.
So no idea where to go with this. Seems hard to believe it's a hardware problem and sending the phone away for a week or more doesn't seem like a great option, especially when they might just send it back as it works OK for awhile after a reboot.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks
After you reset the phone, did you install apps manually from store or let it go off a backup?
Also, just an idea but maybe the tower servicing you is acting up.. Unless it's been happening in multiple areas.
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That is a good point, I did let it install automatically from the Google backup. It wasn't a true restore the way I would generally think of it as everything was installed from scratch, but maybe some settings are getting put back that are messed up. It happens out of the are as well, but I did talk to my carrier and they claimed the did some stuff at the tower that might help. I usually think that means they go get coffee then tell me to reboot the phone. Maybe this evening I'll try a fresh install with no restore. Sort of sucks of course as that's a lot more work to get going, but what the hell at this point. Thanks.
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That is a good point, I did let it install automatically from the Google backup. It wasn't a true restore the way I would generally think of it as everything was installed from scratch, but maybe some settings are getting put back that are messed up. It happens out of the are as well, but I did talk to my carrier and they claimed the did some stuff at the tower that might help. I usually think that means they go get coffee then tell me to reboot the phone. Maybe this evening I'll try a fresh install with no restore. Sort of sucks of course as that's a lot more work to get going, but what the hell at this point. Thanks.
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Sorry for the late reply. I have a note 10+ myself now unlocked and seeing some texting issues where I don't receive text or mms from Apple phones. Hasn't happened with Android to Android though.
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So none of that reinstall stuff helped me. On texting I finally tried the Google Messages app with chat features enabled when it was leaked. Messages alone didn't work, but enabling RCS did and now it actually works better than ever. I hate giving up on textra, but I like the sheer speed of sending giant MMS messages now.
On the notifications thing, the thing that finally got that working right was disabling the Google app. As soon as I did that, all is working as expected. Of course that breaks some Google stuff, but at the moment that's what I have to do to make this work. Even upgrading to Android 10 betas didn't allow me to turn that back on.