Hi,
just ordered a nexus s (SLCD) and wonder if the german nexus has again an own firmware version like the vodafone nexus one did. On the nexus one i had to get rid of the vodafone FW in order to get updates directly from google...
do i have to flash the US rom to get the new updates instantly? If so, is there any step by step faq for this?
You'll get updates from Google, but you'll also not be among the first in the world to receive them as they are rolled out as OTA over a few weeks period. There'll be flashable upgrades available when new versions pop up pretty fast, as the OTA is also stored on the Google servers. If you fancy you can always force connect to servers via *#*#checkin#*#*.
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It's been 3 months since ICS was released. When is Google going to start pushing out the OTA ICS update to us North American 9020A users?
Yes I could root, install the alternative 9020 rom, and update the radio. But I want the official ICS OTA.
ICS OTA doesn't come to Korea, neither
But I'm satisfied thaks to custom rom...
where is the ICS update for I9020A and korean version??
answer: @Google
lol
Well I've seen a picture somewhere where some french carrier said that Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus will get 4.0.5 in march.
FANdroid said:
It's been 3 months since ICS was released. When is Google going to start pushing out the OTA ICS update to us North American 9020A users?
Yes I could root, install the alternative 9020 rom, and update the radio. But I want the official ICS OTA.
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That is what I was thinking, but I did it any ways. I knew that the wait would be too long.
I couldn't wait any longer and finally 2-3 weeks ago flashed a custom ICS rom. I used this ROM as it was designed for the 9020A and didn't require a new radio to be flashed as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399956
Been working great without any freezes or glitches.
I'm hoping ICS shows up for my Telus SNS as all this reading and waiting is killing me It's all too quiet out there on what is happening and it would be comforting to know about my investment in this super personal/business tool.
I went to Nexus S from my Captivate for two reasons, GPS and lack of updates.
Directly from google themselves...
http://www.google.com/phone/detail/nexus-s
Nexus S is the next generation of Nexus devices co-developed by Google and Samsung.
Nexus S comes pre-installed with the latest Google apps and has features like true multi-tasking, Wi-Fi hotspot, Internet Calling, Near-Field Communication (NFC) support, and full web browsing.
With this device, users will be the first to receive software upgrades and new Google mobile apps as soon as they become available.
Now that I see other NON google devices coming out before I get the official, Im a little upset.
If I were to hold them to what they say, they have lied. False advertisment. I love my phone, but seriously Google, where are your priorities?
Some folks are theorizing that the official ICS ROM for 9020A has been delayed in order to fix the wonky search button bug that sometimes happens in weak 3G areas. Having experienced this bug, one can only hope they're right.
Crittias said:
Some folks are theorizing that the official ICS ROM for 9020A has been delayed in order to fix the wonky search button bug that sometimes happens in weak 3G areas. Having experienced this bug, one can only hope they're right.
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That can't be fixed. It is a hardware defect. Google already adjusted the tolerances as much as they could in the latest Gingerbread update. Anyone thinking they are holding up ICS because of a hardware bug that Google has already addressed is probably misinformed.
Hello Everybody
I want to know one important thing in this Android update drama for non Nexus mobile phones.
Previously, people was speculating that only because of heavy skinning, non Nexus Mobile Phones takes long time to release updates.
It has been shown recently that updating mobile phone maker's skin for a new version of Android takes very less time.
The recent claim being Operator takes big chunk of time in testing the updates before it being released.
But, few months ago i learnt one important information from an XDA member.
I was looking to update my AT&T Google Nexus S mobile phone to Jellybean.
But the update was not available then for my mobile phone.
So, one of the fellow XDA member converted an OTA delivered update to be installed in all GSM variants of Samsung Google Nexus S.
I asked him wouldn't it cause any compatibility issues when i install an update meant for unlocked mobile phone.
He told me that the update won't update the Baseband and even Google's all OTA based updates won't update baseband.
In this case, what for Mobile Operators are testing the updates?
Why not football4pda or any similar rom developers release their latest roms without updating baseband ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30373108
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30373108
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It is a general discussion thread, not exactly a question and answer thread.
raddy said:
He told me that the update won't update the Baseband and even Google's all OTA based updates won't update baseband.
In this case, what for Mobile Operators are testing the updates?
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Not sure why you would find this relevant to the One X. Do you own a One X also? Every manufacturer does things differently, and every phone is a bit different.
At least for the AT&T One X, every single OTA has included a new baseband radio.
Aside from baseband, the carrier may be testing other things, like general stability and whether their carrier customizations have been properly implemented. And yes, AT&T has an awful reputation for delaying release of updates due to "testing".
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Why not football4pda or any similar rom developers release their latest roms without updating baseband ?
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Custom ROMs are almost always designed to not affect the baseband radio. Often users will want to try different ROMs without changing the radio, since the best radio for reception is often geographically tied more than related to ROM compatibility.
raddy said:
Hello Everybody
I want to know one important thing in this Android update drama for non Nexus mobile phones.
Previously, people was speculating that only because of heavy skinning, non Nexus Mobile Phones takes long time to release updates.
It has been shown recently that updating mobile phone maker's skin for a new version of Android takes very less time.
The recent claim being Operator takes big chunk of time in testing the updates before it being released.
But, few months ago i learnt one important information from an XDA member.
I was looking to update my AT&T Google Nexus S mobile phone to Jellybean.
But the update was not available then for my mobile phone.
So, one of the fellow XDA member converted an OTA delivered update to be installed in all GSM variants of Samsung Google Nexus S.
I asked him wouldn't it cause any compatibility issues when i install an update meant for unlocked mobile phone.
He told me that the update won't update the Baseband and even Google's all OTA based updates won't update baseband.
In this case, what for Mobile Operators are testing the updates?
Why not football4pda or any similar rom developers release their latest roms without updating baseband ?
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There are two important differentiate facts between carrier branded phones and Google Nexus phones:
1. Phone manufacturers need to get Android source code. Customize it and include various drivers for its unique hardware and combine these into a ROM before it can be delivered to you. In the case of Nesus, Google does all that. But out side out Google, things are much more complicated. The Nesus ROM binaries means nothing to manufacuters. They need the source code released from Google. Android OS is not a set of binary that you can install on any Android phone directly. It is a set of source code that needs to be modified and compiled before they can be used on a phone. Hence it is called Opne Source project for a reason. Google hasn't figured out a way to push OS binaries directly to any Android phones other than its own Nexus phones.
2. Carrier branded phones mean carrier need to take care all the tech support and warranty services for 1-year. So, anytime you update anything on the phone, not just baseband, the carrier need to do extensive testing to make sure everything works ok so that customers won't freak out and send their phone back for service or flood the support phone lines, both of which means extra support $$$ for carrier.
Both of these means delays and delays.
Thank you so much for your detailed explanation.
Although I very well know that non nexus mobile phone manufacturers needs to prepare every new android release for their own products, I thought they could deliver updates faster if they skip baseband update process as I assumed mobile network operator needs to check for reception and battery life for every new android release only because of baseband update .
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The biggest problem with update is bricking an otherwise working phone in the process. Samsung is the master of that It bricks a lot of phones on every other updates. So, carriers need to spend a lot of time testing different configurations to make sure it didn't happen. If a phone bricks, carrier needs to send out a replacement to customer for warranty service.That's a lot of money and hassle. That is also why AT&T don't want you have an unlocked boot loader because a lot of ppl brick their phone flashing a custom ROM. And most of them will call for warranty replacement when that happens even though it is purely their fault in the first place.
Hi everyone,
I have a Nexus 5 that was purchased from TELUS (in a rush since I couldn't wait for a google play store version to make it here). Is there any way for me to flash or change my phone to get it's updates from google directly, and thus removing TELUS from the equation? EG my update to 4.4.3 was way behind google's push, and since it is a Nexus 5 there's no customizations that I can think of that TELUS would actually do to this phone.
I'd really like to have this device as if it came from the play store.
Thanks!
There is no such thing as carrier branded software on a nexus (with exception of Verizon on the Gnex... but different story).
Updates aren't always going to be on time; you just have to wait.
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There is no such thing as carrier branded software on a nexus (with exception of Verizon on the Gnex... but different story).
Updates aren't always going to be on time; you just have to wait.
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So to state the obvious then, my phone doesn't communicate with TELUS update servers, it's straight to google? Is there a way I can check this in developer options or anything?
froek said:
So to state the obvious then, my phone doesn't communicate with TELUS update servers, it's straight to google? Is there a way I can check this in developer options or anything?
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every single current nexus gets its update from google(or gets updated manually). updates are promised to go to everyone within a 3 week period. if you somehow changed any system files, you wont get an ota. just update your phone manually, its easy and faster.
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every single current nexus gets its update from google(or gets updated manually). updates are promised to go to everyone within a 3 week period. if you somehow changed any system files, you wont get an ota. just update your phone manually, its easy and faster.
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Where's the best place to locate all OTA files? Is there a place to browse to select, or is it always like in this post where they mention the link only:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53135171
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Where's the best place to locate all OTA files? Is there a place to browse to select, or is it always like in this post where they mention the link only:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53135171
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http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-5/hammerhead/
all official nexus factory images https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
but there isnt a page with all official otas.
Great! Thanks very much everyone
I returned my Nexus 6p and quite happy with my new note 5, trying to avail the promo for activating samsung pay but when i opened it, it says need to update software, so i updated the new firmware from tmo, after that i tried samsung pay again but keeps saying the same message. Any ideas?
I keep geting updates, one was 30mb, after that another update 140mb
Probably they are incremental updates and can be installed one after the other.. we got them on different dates in the past few weeks..
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Yeah that was it, updated it for 3 times. Thanks
First time posting on XDA so Hi!
I love my mate 9, however its been around 6 months since i bought it and have not recieved updates, my version is MHA-L09C212B118, which is from Unefon carrier. Becasue i want to ensure timely updates, what's the best course to recieve them?. Will changing firmware lead to timely updates?. Also will changing firmware debrand the phone?(everyone hates bloatware).
Hope i can get some help, thanks!
lrph328 said:
First time posting on XDA so Hi!
I love my mate 9, however its been around 6 months since i bought it and have not recieved updates, my version is MHA-L09C212B118, which is from Unefon carrier. Becasue i want to ensure timely updates, what's the best course to recieve them?. Will changing firmware lead to timely updates?. Also will changing firmware debrand the phone?(everyone hates bloatware).
Hope i can get some help, thanks!
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According my experience, you have to rebrand onto world ROM (C432).
Carrier's models are updating very rare or even never...
For MHA-L09C212 on HiCloud are 3 ROMs (only 2 builds). Both are OTA, not Full ROMs.
For MHA-L09C432 there is full stack of ROMs (OTA and FullOTA)
But notice that you can lost some specific mobile operator's functional if rebrand from carrier version to world. If you are not using special services from Unefon, so don't worry.
Warning number 2 - cause HiCloud doesn't have any FullOTA ROM for MHA-L09C212, so you you can't get back to carrier's version after rebranding.