Hi,
I have a Nexus S with Koodo in Canada. I have the possibility to send unlimited MMS, but it doesn't seem to work. I called the tech support and they are telling me that the only way to be able to use that option, it is by enabling Data.
I don't have any data plan. I asked to the tech support if it was possible to block all the data except the MMS, but he said me no. The only way he gave me is when I'm trying to send a MMS, enable Data and turn it off after. The problem is that many applications automatically use the Internet when possible. For every MB, I would need to pay 3$...
Is it possible to activate Data, but blocking everything on my device? I'm sure their must be a way, like blacklisting every servers except the one dealing with MMS.
Any idea? I tried an application called Quick Settings, but it doesn't seem to work when Data is off and MMS is on.
Thanks
Have you tried to set your APN type to "mms" rather than "default"?
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Is there a way to know before I activate the data that it won't sync my other applications?
I don't think so, but if you activate data with only an mms apn present, I don't think you will see a 3g icon in your status bar unless you're sending an mms.
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go to settings->wifi/networks->mobile data->apns->select your apn and edit it
Scroll to the very bottom setting, make sure it says ONLY "mms" and NOT "default,mms".
Alternatively, you can root your phone and install droidwall and select exactly which apps can access 3g/wifi.
I think it's a bit silly and disingenuous for your carrier to sell you an MMS plan knowing you don't have a data plan (and that MMS uses data) but then don't show you or direct you on how to then set it up e.t.c..
With Droidwall, can I prevent some apps from using 3G, but able to use WiFi instead?
jpmonette said:
With Droidwall, can I prevent some apps from using 3G, but able to use WiFi instead?
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It would be easier to try it for yourself . But yes, you can do that. I've just checked
LordLugard said:
I think it's a bit silly and disingenuous for your carrier to sell you an MMS plan knowing you don't have a data plan (and that MMS uses data) but then don't show you or direct you on how to then set it up e.t.c..
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Usually MMS plans come /w a specific APN that is set to "MMS" only as barqers explained earlier. Ofc this is getting a bit more "delicate" on devices that almost require a data plan to function at all (and try to enable it themselves on a fresh setup).
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Ive been stuck trying to figure out how i can send MMS messages without using a Data Plan. I want to be able to STOP all connections to the data plan, minus using it for MMS. Basically what im saying is that i just want to send and recieve MMS messages since i have an unlimited SMS/MMS plan.
Can somebody help me out, i'd really appreciate it.
cAll customer service tell them you want no data-
have them block it. Problem solved.
MMS does not require you to use a data connection. Freekquency is right if you want to doublecheck and protect yourself from extra charges....
What I did on a Samsung Epix for this to work is go to connections in settings and set the first one for internet to "My Work Network." Since the MMS program has a manual setting on which data connection to use, I left that on the internet connection. When I get an MMS it will work fine but when a program tries to access data it will fail. A little caution though is that if the phone is either sending or receiving an MMS the other programs can use the connection until the MMS is done.
Search the forums for Modaco no data and toggle off the data.
It seems like if i use NoData then it stops the usage of MMS. I dont want to STOP my data connection, i just want to use it for MMS only, not online.
Hey,
I do not have a data plan with my carrier because virtually everywhere I go has WiFi, so I leach off of this. Because of this, I disabled the data connection so I don't wind up with any accidental charges. But, this leaves me unable to send or receive SMS messages. Has anyone found a good solution for this? Thanks!
If you cant send SMS thats not a data issue. If you mean MMS then:
Here (T-Mob UK) i have 2 connections, my internet connection & my MMS connection. If i receive a media message, the phone connects to the latter - free - and downloads the message.
If i send a mms, it connects again (still free for the data) and sends it. I get billed per mms sent, regardless of the ammount of data.
The internet connection isnt used for messages at all, but for everything else (and is billed per kb)
I'm talking about MMS, I mixed it up in the paragraph. I have to connections with AT&T: Media Net and ISP GRPS. So will just disabling the ISP GRPS connection allow me to send MMS without accidently connecting with Opera a day later on accident?
With AT&T, Data and Messaging are separate features. As long as you have a Messaging or Messaging Unlimited plan, you can send and receive text and MMS messages.
Yes I realize that, but my issue is accidental data usage after the message is sent. I have unlimited MMS and SMS but I dropped the data because most places I go has wi fi. The issue is that I might send a message and an hour later it downloads my email from the data connection either when there is wi fi or not.
I do the same thing with my Fuze, I also have AT&T and use NoData. I just tried to send a MMS and it wont even connect to send it. I even uninstalled NoData and it wouldnt connect. I have done a little looking aroud and with AT&T any smartphone you use has to have a data plan to send MMS, it is true that it doesnt need it but AT&T wont let you connect to media net with out it.
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I do the same thing with my Fuze, I also have AT&T and use NoData. I just tried to send a MMS and it wont even connect to send it. I even uninstalled NoData and it wouldnt connect. I have done a little looking aroud and with AT&T any smartphone you use has to have a data plan to send MMS, it is true that it doesnt need it but AT&T wont let you connect to media net with out it.
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This is correct. As far as I am aware there is no work around for it either. I used email for the longest time instead, but finally decided it was time to get a data plan. Its actually pretty nice.
I think this is very wrong of AT&T to do, I pay for unlimited text and MMS and I cant even use it. I have no need for the data plan, at home I have Wifi I also have it at work and my half hour drive I dont need to be connected to the internet. The only company I know that will let you do something like this is T-Mobile, I did it with them when I had my blackberry.
Yeah it is a little unfair, although really the end user is at fault too for disabling the data feature to avoid accidental charges.
Side note- I thought that with Blackberrys you had to have the BB Data service as it is something RIM mandates or because its a licensing/contractual thing between them and the carrier.
theonedub said:
Yeah it is a little unfair, although really the end user is at fault too for disabling the data feature to avoid accidental charges.
Side note- I thought that with Blackberrys you had to have the BB Data service as it is something RIM mandates or because its a licensing/contractual thing between them and the carrier.
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You only need the service books for your carrier for mms to work on the Blackberry, t-mobile will give these out AT&T wont. For the Blackberry the work around is to put in a sim card that has a active BB data plan, it then downloads the service books and when you put your sim back in it will still connect with out charging you for it.
Can anyone tell me the settings to Connect to "Media Net" on AT&T? It would be really appreciated
gotwake424 said:
Can anyone tell me the settings to Connect to "Media Net" on AT&T? It would be really appreciated
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have you tried at&t's support pages?
Hello Guys,
Recently I had Gone out of my Free 6 months Free 100MB of Data per Month,
Means It was like If You use an Android Phone on Airtel Network(India), You Get Free Data Worth 100 MB per Month Till First 6 Months.
So Since 6 Months Were Done, It Started Charging me 30p/50kb & It was too costly for one with an Android Phone.
Even If I Turned On the Phone & then Switch to Wi-Fi, mean while if 2-5 kb even if was cut, It used to charge me 30p.
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So As to Avoid this, In HERO ROM's We had an Option to Disable Data that too through An Widget; But In Cyanogen / Official ROM's We Cant Even Disable Data...
So To Avoid This, I used To make another new APN with Parameters Disabled for Both Name & APN
So All I Want to Say is that Adding an Data Disabled APN Profile to the Current APN List Through which Everyone can Disable Data on Non-Customized ROM's By just Changing the APN to Disabled
there is already at least one application which does this, i use APNdroid which can either be used from the launcher or as a widget
http://code.google.com/p/apndroid/
Just delete all the APNs. I've been doing this since I first bought my G1. I'm on a college campus with WiFi everywhere so I didn't bother paying for data.
WG-Build 8.2
Added it to my ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=592466
APNdroid ftw!
anzoshi said:
there is already at least one application which does this, i use APNdroid which can either be used from the launcher or as a widget
http://code.google.com/p/apndroid/
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Why Would you install a Separate App Every time you Flash / Update / Wipe Data, Or As d00m Said Why to Delete The APN & Type it Again Whenever Needed ??
Instead just go to APN Settings & Change the APN to Disabled
Don't You think This will be better ??
Make a new APN, call it "No Internet" fill it with rubbish then pick it as your APN.
As long as it's selected you can't use data.
Personally I have it set to No Internet, and the MMS entry is separate so I can still send/recieve mms when necessary but I don't use per MB data.
Why noyt just pay for Unlimited internet? whats the point of having G1?????
BrutalHoe said:
Why noyt just pay for Unlimited internet? whats the point of having G1?????
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Not all countries have carriers that provide unlimited internet, and even if they do it could be very, very expensive. Until recently we had to pay approx. 80USD for unlimited internet.
APNdroid is not perfect. It disables all APNs, even MMS APNs. This is not ideal as we cant receive MMS. So, the Hero way of doing it is ideal.
APNdroid is not perfect. It disables all APNs, even MMS APNs. This is not ideal as we cant receive MMS. So, the Hero way of doing it is ideal.
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check out the 2.0 dev version of it, it has options for all apn off, only MMS on, or all on
Here's my question. Does putting junk in the apn cause it to try and connect over and over and kill you battery like not having signal? What about with no internet selection? If it does, I could see a need for a better way.
try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541380&highlight=droidwall
it would be very nice if there can be a menu option to disable data when you hold the power button
just like on the magic / hero roms
kiddyfurby said:
it would be very nice if there can be a menu option to disable data when you hold the power button
just like on the magic / hero roms
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Yeah I too feel So...
By the way There is no Need to Discuss So much on this small stuff....
I had just Posted this thread for ROM Dev's So they can include it in their ROM's if they feel its Usefull...
Disable data on boot
Can't you go in to phone diagnostics and disable data on boot
(only works on HTC branded phones)
Instructions for people who don't know:
Dial *#*#4636#*#*
tap phone information
press menu
tap more
and select both disable data connection and disable data on boot...
then you should have a no data connection without installing unneeded apps
Jeeeeshhh
Just Download "Quick Settings" from the market...
Turn off Network Data
Simply
I use Bar Control to place a shortcut of the app in the notification bar for quick access.
Problem solved!
EDIT: OK i didnt read all posts before replying...Droid Wall sounds much simpler. But i like having my settings available without having to hit the HOME button to select said app.
so i cant download a mms or send it and i bought the g2x without a contract so no data since they want 30 bucks a month n f that but my moms got a gravity 2 n she doesn't have data but still gets pics and the rest of my fam with iphones so i was wonderin if there's a way to do it on the g2x without data..possibly idk
Wifi....otherwise no
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Is there a way to set up the mms apn seperate from the data apn? I would think you could use mms without data. Well at least back in the day on flip phones you could.
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Total FAIL!!!!!
I have APN issues when I change the "build.prop" to allow Netflix play. Its the hack that changes the manufacturer to HTC Vision.
Anyhow, everytime I do that Data stops working. MMS stops working too. Had to enable WiFi for MMS to download to the phone.
This is sad news, will always need Data, even for MMS. Just so wrong.
what? you dont need a data plan to get mms working. I dont have a data plan and my mms works great. Now depending on which build you are using you will have to turn off wifi to allow the mms to be downloaded to you phone but just make sure your data box in settings is checked and you shouldnt have any problems.
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Total FAIL!!!!!
I have APN issues when I change the "build.prop" to allow Netflix play. Its the hack that changes the manufacturer to HTC Vision.
Anyhow, everytime I do that Data stops working. MMS stops working too. Had to enable WiFi for MMS to download to the phone.
This is sad news, will always need Data, even for MMS. Just so wrong.
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I use the build.prop for Netflix and everything works including mms and pix on my phone. All it really does that I notice is change the signature to HTC vision if I respond on my phone to xda
What are the changes you do the build.prop?
I changed everything
Model
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.name=vision
ro.product.device=vision
ro.product.board=vision
And the fingerprint.
It sucks, when I change the build.prop I lose Data connectivity and can stream on Netflix only with WiFi never on 4G
Which lines did you change?
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What are the changes you do the build.prop?
I changed everything
Model
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.name=vision
ro.product.device=vision
ro.product.board=vision
And the fingerprint.
It sucks, when I change the build.prop I lose Data connectivity and can stream on Netflix only with WiFi never on 4G
Which lines did you change?
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Only needed to change 2 lines: model and manufacturer. Change model to HTC Vision and manufacturer to HTC. Then reboot.
alpinestars said:
what? you dont need a data plan to get mms working. I dont have a data plan and my mms works great. Now depending on which build you are using you will have to turn off wifi to allow the mms to be downloaded to you phone but just make sure your data box in settings is checked and you shouldnt have any problems.
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Are you being billed per MB of data though?
No. No extra charges on my account for mbs. I have unlimited text messages but beyond that I have no charges
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Haven't read other responses, so, hoping I'm not repeating sage advice...I have a no data plan too, just make sure you tell t mobile you DON'T want data, the website or better a live person can block it...Then, go to phone and ENABLE DATA! There you hve it, pix and tricks till you cry...
Thanks made the changes data works with just changes to the buid.prop file.
Thanks
yea it doesn't work off wifi at all but im running the rc and after a couple reboots the edge symbol comes on and i can't go on the web but the mms works i guess it just takes a couple reboots to get it working at first
My scenario is a little unique
I run this phone unlocked on AT&T without data. I actually have a data block on my plan, so my phone doesn't use any extraneous data from apps I can't control when I'm out of a wifi hotspot
My only problem is, I DO have unlimited texting, which also includes picture messaging. But if I block data, I can't receive picture messages.
Is there any way to block data but still be able to receive picture messages?
I'm trying to use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jeffdonahue.smozzy&hl=en
It is a great concept and would definitely become popular with some love.
Nice way to save data in a pinch too, or forgo the data plan all together if you don't use it much.
But I haven't been able to figure out how to have picture messaging enabled with data blocked.
Short and long answers to your question
gtmaster303 said:
My scenario is a little unique
I run this phone unlocked on AT&T without data. I actually have a data block on my plan, so my phone doesn't use any extraneous data from apps I can't control when I'm out of a wifi hotspot
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Unique is a bit of an understatement, given that most carriers require a data plan in order to purchase a smartphone in the first place.
gtmaster303 said:
My only problem is, I DO have unlimited texting, which also includes picture messaging. But if I block data, I can't receive picture messages.
Is there any way to block data but still be able to receive picture messages?
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Short answer, AFAIK, yes. SMS (text) and MMS (multimedia messages) work fine over the standard cellular connection. They don't require wi-fi or the carrier's data network to be active.
To elucidate: I'm on T-Mobile, and though I signed up for the mandatory 2 GB data plan, I rarely use it because I control how my phone accesses wi-fi and T-Mo's data network. In Settings|Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi is off unless I need to use it, be it my home connection or a free provider like Panera while I'm at the restaurant. Likewise Mobile network is set to off, as well as Settings|Accounts & sync|Background data and Auto-sync (separate settings). I use the Extended Controls app for a detailed widget that includes wi-fi and data network toggles for when I need to use these capabilities. My husband is hearing impaired, so we communicate a great deal using SMS and MMS; and we've not had any difficulty with wi-fi and data network switched off.
In closing, it's to your benefit to thoroughly read the manual for the MT4GS. This information and more can be found there. Here's a link for the pdf from T-Mobile (the manual is by HTC, though): http://support.t-mobile.com/servlet...2-102-2-3529/mytouch-4g-slide-user-manual.pdf
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KingCheetah said:
Unique is a bit of an understatement, given that most carriers require a data plan in order to purchase a smartphone in the first place.
Short answer, AFAIK, yes. SMS (text) and MMS (multimedia messages) work fine over the standard cellular connection. They don't require wi-fi or the carrier's data network to be active.
To elucidate: I'm on T-Mobile, and though I signed up for the mandatory 2 GB data plan, I rarely use it because I control how my phone accesses wi-fi and T-Mo's data network. In Settings|Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi is off unless I need to use it, be it my home connection or a free provider like Panera while I'm at the restaurant. Likewise Mobile network is set to off, as well as Settings|Accounts & sync|Background data and Auto-sync (separate settings). I use the Extended Controls app for a detailed widget that includes wi-fi and data network toggles for when I need to use these capabilities. My husband is hearing impaired, so we communicate a great deal using SMS and MMS; and we've not had any difficulty with wi-fi and data network switched off.
In closing, it's to your benefit to thoroughly read the manual for the MT4GS. This information and more can be found there. Here's a link for the pdf from T-Mobile (the manual is by HTC, though): http://support.t-mobile.com/servlet...2-102-2-3529/mytouch-4g-slide-user-manual.pdf
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You can run any phone on your carrier without data, as long as they can't recognize what it is (i.e. an unlocked phone from a different carrier)
But back to my question, AT&T tech support has told me that data needs to be enabled in order for me to receive MMS as part of my unlimited texting. On a non-smartphone, that would be no problem because there are no apps that constantly pull data in the background. If I disable mobile data on my phone, will my MMS still work? That's what I'm trying to do. Otherwise there's no way for me to avoid pay per use data charges, because my phone will keep pulling data
gtmaster303 said:
If I disable mobile data on my phone, will my MMS still work?
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Why not try and see what happens, then let us know?
Sent from a digital distance.
I've been able to receive mms by disabling data, and deleting the "data" apn. Keep the mms apn, since if you delete that, you will not receive mms.
I have the connect to internet setting disabled, and have been able to receive MMS.
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Why not try and see what happens, then let us know?
Sent from a digital distance.
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Lol, I did, but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong. It didn't work for me, that's why I asked
idlechatter said:
I've been able to receive mms by disabling data, and deleting the "data" apn. Keep the mms apn, since if you delete that, you will not receive mms.
I have the connect to internet setting disabled, and have been able to receive MMS.
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How do I know which is which?
I have about 8 APNs
I have attached screenshots of the list
The second picture is the same list, but just includes the other half of the APNs.
If you could let me know which one to delete, that would be great
Delete all Wap.cingular apns, leave the others. You must have data pay per use at a minimum to use mms because mms messaging functions over the data network. This is the same on all carriers. It's just how mms works. On Att, the data used as part of mms messaging is included in your messaging plan and will not charge your data pay per use.
Hope this helps!
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA
pantheis said:
Delete all Wap.cingular apns, leave the others. You must have data pay per use at a minimum to use mms because mms messaging functions over the data network. This is the same on all carriers. It's just how mms works. On Att, the data used as part of mms messaging is included in your messaging plan and will not charge your data pay per use.
Hope this helps!
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using XDA
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Thanks for the reply.
So if I enable data on my phone now, apps won't rack up data, will they?
MMS is a part of AT&T messaging, even though it uses data, you are correct.
I just don't want the rest of my phone pulling for pay per use data