Today, I Unlocked the Bootloader with the Unlock from HTC, but it still says S-ON.
Will I still be able to root and flash rooms with the TUTs posted in the Development Section?
Or will there be an Alternate method.
If it still says s-on perhaps you should re try the HTC unlocking process until it says s-off
Swyped from HTC Desire S using XDA Premium
Why would you use the htc method. It saves your serial number and it voids your warranty. If you use revolutions you can always go back to s on and tmo will never know the difference.
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Daveon93 said:
Today, I Unlocked the Bootloader with the Unlock from HTC, but it still says S-ON.
Will I still be able to root and flash rooms with the TUTs posted in the Development Section?
Or will there be an Alternate method.
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From the all the gossip flying around the word is you may be able to get CWM installed but no custom roms yet, seems HTC provided an Unlock for developers and will provide S-off at later date.
Just go here http://revolutionary.io/
and follow the instructions.
Yeah if you've unlocked using HTC unlock bootloader then you can't get S-OFF and flash custom roms. You can achieve root and flash a modified version of the stock rom.
This link will help explain it better:
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-unlocked-htcs-bootloader-unlocking-method
I feel that since you have already unlocked with HTC you've officially voided your warranty. It is probably best to just to revolutionary.io and unlock using the revolutionary process that way you can get S-OFF and start flashing custom roms. It would have probably been better to use revolutionary in the first place that way you could have S-ONed your phone if you ever needed to use the warranty later but it won't make much of a difference now.
Well, thanks guys, but I can lock it back on the HTC way, I wasnt aware that it voided warranty.
It's okay.
It gives me the Option to lock the bootloader, but I'm unaware that it'd bring the warranty back.
But Should I still just use revo to get S-OFF?
Yes, you should just use the revolutionary method. Much less time consuming. Give them your serial, they give you a code, they send Caroline in, and then you're good.
I'm not sure if the Sensation is any different, but I unlocked a Evo3d the other day using the HTC method.
The h-boot will not say s-off, but it will say *** unlocked ***.
CWM can be flashed.
Custom roms can be flashed, loaded Synergy nightly on there.
The only reason the Evo3d had to go that route was because the latest OTA was accepted before I had a chance to get revo on there. Anyhow, it was actually pretty pain free and I can't imagine the Sensation being any different.
I'd imagine you just use the fastboot flash command to flash CWM but, as already said, you should've just used Revolutionary
EddyOS said:
I'd imagine you just use the fastboot flash command to flash CWM but, as already said, you should've just used Revolutionary
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Yup, fastboot flash recovery recovery_of_your_choice.img.
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Ok so I unlocked with the Official HTC Bootloader unlock tool. I have been trying to find the answer to my question of what else needs to be done before I can Rom the thing. I have been reading and everyone just seems to be arguing whether or not you need S-OFF in order to put a rom on the phone.
So please... Someone give me a straight answer. What else Do i need to do before I can load a custom rom on the phone. I went through tall of the official unlock stuff and its unlocked. Now what?!?!
First you need CWM. Then just flash the zip of your ROM
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Thanks man for the response. Thats what i thought needed to happen but wasnt sure. Off to rom I go!
Still having trouble
Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.
You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.
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Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.
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You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.
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With the Sensation this is no reason not to use revolutionary and get true S-OFF.
But if you want to continue down the HTC Unlocked path, you may want to visit the Evo 3G forum. There are some excellent threads and discussion on how to get into ClockworkMod using the HBOOT method. For some of the folks over in Evo 3G land, the latest HBOOT that was released for their HTC Unlock OTA has rendered Revolutionary useless because it disabled the root exploit, so they have no choice.
But if I were you, go with Revolutionary for permanent S-OFF/Nand unlock.
Hi,
I've read several articles about the subject, but not sure I really understood the difference, since most of comments are vague like "S-OFF provides more flexibility", "Revolutionary installs custom recovery", "S-OFF is S-OFF" etc...
I have European Sensation with HBOOT 1.18.0, no operator SIM locking. What I did so far was applying the official unlock, and it was successful - now it's "Unlocked" but "S-ON". Then, also flashed the latest CWR 5.0.2.0 via fastboot and it also loads well.
Basically what I want to do now is wiping everything and trying several custom ROMs (CoreDroid, CM etc). Don't think I need anything deeper like custom bootloaders, unofficial Radio updates etc - but not sure which parts are residing in NAND...
So the question is whether S-OFF is needed for these purposes, or the official unlock is sufficient? If I do, could you please clarify what exactly won't work in S-ON mode?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Noob here - Same question.
Hello ptichik,
I've done the same as you and was wondering what the next step is as well. I just want superuser access. I was Googling for advice and came across your post. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Regards,
TechB74
Well, now htc knows you are using their unlock method, so now officially your warranty is gone......
Should have used the unofficial method where you could revert from to s-on having no warranty issues.......
It is all about reading what is going on [email protected]
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
Snah001 said:
Well, now htc knows you are using their unlock method, so now officially your warranty is gone......
Should have used the unofficial method where you could revert from to s-on having no warranty issues.......
It is all about reading what is going on [email protected]
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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Thanks for that information, I was aware of what I was doing. I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me what would the next step be to getting root access.
Snah001 said:
Well, now htc knows you are using their unlock method, so now officially your warranty is gone......
Should have used the unofficial method where you could revert from to s-on having no warranty issues.......
It is all about reading what is going on [email protected]
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium
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Not 100% correct, a hardware fault isn't caused by you unlocking the bootloader so you'd be covered in that instance
What's next?
So now that i've unlocked the bootloade the official way. What should I do to get root?
TechB74 said:
So now that i've unlocked the bootloade the official way. What should I do to get root?
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You should start by learning how to use the search facilities of this forum to find your answer.
Flash a custom recovery using fastboot.
Using the custom recovery, install the latest version of SU.
Check out the stickies in the development section. Also, be prepared for a lot of attitude if u post a question thats already been answered, its easier to sort thru search results than flame.
All guides say to start with Revolution. Then install Clocwork Recovery Mod to back up the device. Then install the su binaries. Since I unlocked officially can I skip the Revolution part?
TechB74 said:
All guides say to start with Revolution. Then install Clocwork Recovery Mod to back up the device. Then install the su binaries. Since I unlocked officially can I skip the Revolution part?
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Yes, I'd say so
The difference with the official way is that you only unlock the bootloader. You don't get S-OFF so you can't make changes 'on the fly' with Android running, you'd need to do changes with the phone in HBOOT/fastboot mode.
Flashing custom ROMs works with either
Hello,
how did you unlock officially? I only found the revolutionary method. Thank you.
I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
webmanya said:
When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
smokzye said:
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
Trozzul said:
Hello everyday android fans just got this great phone from my uncle and would love to flash a rom on it (not a fan of sense ui) , Rooting. the best thing about android, we all want to root it, flash a rom or other goodies. But the one thing we android fans hate? Bricking. Im tired of bricking my phones because of someone elses stupid mistake, weather its a broken link when your half way into the process, wrong file or broken file, im tired of it, i have bricked so many great phones, so i have googled and searched this thread and i dont know where to start i cant find any root tuts, i know that htc dosent like it when people root their phones (dont know if this is true correct me if im wrong) because of the unlock thing and S-On. Now can someone please direct me to a root thread and maby even a rom, i would like a non sense rom but ics 4.0.4 or jb 4.1.1 sorry for how dumb i am.
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This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
glevitan said:
This is what you need....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824379
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this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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you are wrong. Inspire and desire HD are the same phone except for the radio frequencies. If you have read the guide in post 7 you would have found that.
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Trozzul said:
this dosent Help Very much. there is no thread for how to root/S-off/Unlock bootloader for my phone and it even says its for the HTC Desire HD... ( Correct me if im wrong the Inspire was a variant of the Desire HD).
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They're the same phone. I recommend you read the guide. Root, S-Off and Unlock are all explained in great detail in the guide.
There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda-developer's app
RuggedHunter said:
There have to be other small differences too, no? Screens or something, right?
First thing OP needs to do is check the build version. That will determine if you can run the aahk straight or if you need to unlock with htcdev first, flash insecure boot, downgrade, then root...
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda-developer's app
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The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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glevitan said:
The Hack Kit can always be used, he has to find what kinda preparation needs to be done for it to work.
Desire HD and Inspire and similar, DHD is the European version, and therefore the different frequencies, the rest are just the same. Even radios can be shared.
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I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
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I still dont see what im looking for post 7 dosent show any links or what to do but it looks like you guys want me to unlock the bootloader first. But I have read in some threads and posts that they dont want you using the offical bootloader unlock if your going to use the hack kit aahk or whatever they are
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Post 7 has a PDF guide. That includes any instructions you want. And no, you can't run AAHK on an unlocked bootloader.
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
Trozzul said:
how do i know if my device was shipped with gingerbread? i got this thing from my uncle and im sure he wouldnt know when he got it.
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AAHK was retired a few days ago. The only option now is bootloader unlock, unless someone else comes up with a similar tool.
What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
Trozzul said:
What do you mean AAHK is retired? is it not supported anymore? am i not able to root and flash a custom rom on my phone now?
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It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
bananagranola said:
It's neither available nor supported; the server hosting all the files it needs is no longer up. Like I said, the only option to root now is boot loader unlock.
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sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
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sorry im pretty dumb... so if i root and unlock the boot loader can i flash roms with Cwm? or do i have to be S-off? its S-on right now, not really sure what S-off /S-on is from what i have read its so you cant unistall stock apps?
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
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Root and S-OFF are different things. Root means that you have administrator permissions at the rom level, so you can set different permissions in the rom. But, you can not flash all kinda stuff such as radios.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to flash CWM recovery and custom roms, but again not radios or boot images in recovery (you have to do it manually). As long as there is no other tool to gain S-OFF, unlocking the bootloader is the best choice.
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so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
hutch2509 said:
I obtained AAHK literally the day before he retired it. I read everything thoroughly and it went off great with no problems. I think I might have been one of the last people to get S-OFF on this phone before he retired it. The only thing I can tell you is you might be able to google for ace advanced hack kit. I know you can find the blog this way, and you may be able to find the kit somewhere else to download. If you do happen to find the download somewhere, read EVERYTHING on the blog. If you read for comprehension and follow directions carefully, you can root and s-off without bricking. I did it first try no problems. Now I'm running Energy ROM for Sense 3.5 and love it.
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I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Trozzul said:
so if i want to get custom roms like a ICS or JB Rom i would have to root/cwm and unlock the bootloader? and if i had to unlock the bootloader would i use htcdev? i have seen so many tuts its not even funny some people say to use it some say its bad and dont use it im very confused
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Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
bananagranola said:
I do not recommend trying to download AAHK and run it. You will probably get stuck in the middle. AAHK downloaded files from its servers during the process. That server is now down.
Now, you need to unlock the bootloader with HTCDEV, flash a recovery like CWM, and either: flash a rooted ROM, or a su binary and a superuser app.
In the past when AAHK was around it was a much better option (gave S-Off) than bootloader unlock, which is probably why you see people saying not to use bootloader unlock. Now that AAHK is gone, unless/until glevitan makes his S-Off tool, bootloader unlock is the only option.
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you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
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you said a Rooted ROM? how would that work i dont know how to flash CWM yet since AAHK is gone .do i flash CWM on the stock recovery? if so how would i? download a CWM Version and rename it to Update.zip?
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In post #7 of the thread linked in my signature, glevitan has a beginner's guide that includes instructions on bootloader unlock and root. There are also many threads strewn around the HTC Desire HD forums detailing how to do it step by step. (Note: DHD is essentially the same phone as the Inspire 4G; you can use their ROMs and their instructions, though I would be careful about their radios.)
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2169515 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168500
Hi guys I have some questions on root/Unroot/S-off for HTC one s
I have had a evo3D (still do ) and dev a little to so here are my questions
1.Root
I looked at the all in one thread I saw to the Aio tool kit by hasoon200 and the standard root by torxx
my current stock setup
Htc vile not cs
Stock Ics sense 4.1
Hboot 1.40
Radio 1.08
And T-Mobil
2.Unroot
I have not seen one of these Unroot
Threads like in 3D land So how would o go about going from s-off back to s-on and have no super cid
Also I might sim unlock if I can but only if could go back
Thanks guys I hope to bring some of my development here to the one s
Any one?
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Rooting is pretty straight forward, doesn't take much effort. I prefer to do it through the console and not the AIO tool, no offense to the author. You can check my signature for the tutorial for rooting. As far as unrooting, CM 10 based roms as you may know have settings to restrict root access to ADB or apps, or both. I know in SuperSU, I think you can unroot, and also in SuperUser Elite as well if I'm not mistaken.
You can go from S-Off to S-On with this turtorial, and sim unlock with this one. According to this post sim unlock is persistent even after flashing new roms and factory resets. But now that we have S-Off, I imagine there has to be a way to relock the phone.
impostle said:
As far as unrooting, CM 10 based roms as you may know have settings to restrict root access to ADB or apps, or both. I know in SuperSU, I think you can unroot, and also in SuperUser Elite as well if I'm not mistaken.
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Is there a way to relock bootloader
And back to stock from ruu or firmware zip
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Yeah, you can relock the bootloader with a fastboot command. An RUU will take you back to stock.
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Yeah, you can relock the bootloader with a fastboot command. An RUU will take you back to stock.
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Thanks for all the help going all the way s-off tonight and maybe start making some roms
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