I'm a recent convert from the apple universe to the droid, captivate universe.
I have a little knowledge in programming and was excited to play round with the phone. And yes I know, I know (or don't know) enough to cause problems.
I have a couple of noob questions and just want to make sure of the answers before I do anymore.
Within the first two days of picking up the phone I “rooted” the 2.1 O.S. to see how I could speed the unit up. Few days after that I installed 2.2 OS to see how that would affect the system and what speed increases I would see.
My noob questions are;
Is the original ROM 2.1 still on the phone? And if so what is the best way to back it up.
If not, can I get a copy of it somewhere?
My thought is when AT&T release the actual upgrade I might want to reinstall the original ROM and do their upgrade.
I know I should have started out by backing up but I was excited to start tinkering.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
dhostetter said:
My noob questions are;
Is the original ROM 2.1 still on the phone? And if so what is the best way to back it up.
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Nope.
If not, can I get a copy of it somewhere?
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[STOCK ROM] Odin3 One-Click Downloader and Drivers CAPTIVATE ONLY
My thought is when AT&T release the actual upgrade I might want to reinstall the original ROM and do their upgrade.
I know I should have started out by backing up but I was excited to start tinkering.
If someone can point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
Thanks
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Welcome to Android. Read, read and read some more.
If u rooted and installed a custom rom, the factory os is gone. The only way to get it back is using the Odin app from ur computer. I don't remember where to get it. I know if u look around in the dev area u will see all the other rom threads and some require to have ur phone back on the original os. They sometimes have a link to Odin.
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Many Thanks!
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hey guys!
So I'm new to this forum, as well as android. I know of my friend who has a Samsung csptiate, and he loves it. I however just got a Motorola xoom, and was wondering if rooting and putting a custom rom is worth it?
If so, do you guys have any suggestions for roms?
Thanks guys!
It really depends what you want to do with your Xoom and your feelings of your Xoom's performance. If you are happy with what you can do and the speed of your Xoom then I say no do not bother with rooting and custom ROM's.
If on the other hand you want to do more and want more speed doing it, yes by all means root and install a custom ROM. I highly recommend the Tiamat ROM's. It will give you more features and more control over your Xoom. They have a new ROM in the works so you may want to take your time researching your options.
The best advice I can give you is to do your research. Find the how-to guides, download all the files and read and re-read all the instructions. Make sure you fully understand what you are doing before you do it. Most problems come from people making small mistakes and not following the instructions step by step and word for word. Make sure to use the exact versions of files specified. Do not assume that a newer version of something is better or has the same features. There is a risk of bricking your Xoom whenever you flash something, but if you are carefull and follow instructions the risk is minimal and there are people in the forums who are willing and capable of helping.
Honestly, I want more speed. Do you also have to put a custom kernel?
If so, which kernel do you recommend?
You do not have to load a custom kernel to overclock, but honestly if you are gonig to go through the hassel of unlocking and rooting you might as well. Just know that as soon as you unlock your Xoom, you will have to wipe it clean. So backup your data and record what apps you have installed.
I personally have been very happy with the Tiamat kernels/ROMS. I started only installing the Tiamat kernel but quickly installed the ROM. If you install the latest ROM it includes the latest kernel as well. As I mentioned they are planning on releasing a new version soon. I usually wait a couple days after a new ROM is released to see if there are any major issues before I make the jump.
Take a look at this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209341 . This should answer a lot of your questions and point you to the guides to get you as far as you decide to go.
Hi guys,
as i said in the title im completely new to all this. My mum has a desire s and i think the sense software is rubbish..hence i want to install MIUI. I have an iPhone which was extremely easy to JB and ive been searching around for help rooting/flashing an MIUI rom to the Desire S but damn it looks complex :| and im being extra cautious because its my mum's phone and i dont want to brick it.
After searching im still confused..
Do i need to root to flash MIUI?
If so, how? Can i use this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100 Is there anything i need to do before and/or after I use this method?
Also, this is the MIUI rom i've found..http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?2543-ROM-HTC-Desire-S-(saga)
It says the kernel is included in the download, but does that require a seperate installation?
Can someone help me please? Been looking around for days and just not getting it :/
Help will be greatly appreciated!
Sorry, I don't want to sound rude , but , have you checked the first couple of pages here on Q&A ? There are at least a couple of threads with similar querries ....
Plus, there's INDEX (with everything you require) for help , as always !
I'd suggest you read more , before even thinking of S OFF or Rooting!
Best of luck ....
i dunno about your 1st question but once u "jb" ur android, the kernel will be in the same zip so that when u flash the rom, u chg the rom and also the kernel. u will need to flash "gapps" as well if the is no play.market app.
as for your question 1 i use a different method so i cant comment on that.
but do be reminded to do each step and tick it off slowly once u done. DO NOT skip/miss a step. I actually took 2 days 2 nights reading through before rooting it, and i still made a mistake(as i was in a hurry for class, wrong timing for rooting). but once u read through the doing part will be quite fast. next thing u know u can flash different roms when ever ur mom gets bored of her phone interface.
try flashing different rom before and see which is faster and slicker.
try getting a "aokp" rom, it give u more to configure around. miui doesnt have a drawer and it looks alot like an iphone interface if that is what ur mom wants.
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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There is nothing to tell you that you can't find by reading the stickies and understanding what to do.
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i know, im asking just because im new and not secure of the routine to follow. thanks anyway
el_d4rio said:
Hello,
First of all, thanks for this great forum, i'm new to android and being here is really helpful.
I've read some of the guides posted, still i'd like to have some tips and infos.
I'm from Italy and my Desire S is still working on Gingerbread (!). I would like to update the firmware, if not to Jelly Bean (since the custom one is still beta, but advise me here), at least to ICS, but i don't know the routine to follow (ROOT, then Flash one of the custom ROMS? Being in S-Off mode is needed i guess). Another thing i don't get is flashing radios..
Help would be really appreciated, THANKS.
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If you haven't messed with your phone, i.e. rooted it, flashed any fancy thirty party rom, etc, and the phone is running official HTC ROM and in the exact same state as you bought it, I'd suggest OTA and upgrade to official ICS since you are new to android. Go to setting - about phone then update from there.
If you'd like to try other ROMs then there's plenty guide in this forum already.
Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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Imo official 4.0.4 is a bad idea.
1) It has bugs
2) hboot 2.02 cannot be downgraded without htcdev
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My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
el_d4rio said:
My Desire S is new and "untouched". For what i had got, the official htc release is to be installed manually and has some issues, so I had thought a custom and more recent ROM would have been better.
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Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
amidabuddha said:
Then use revolutionary (S-OFF) not unlock via htcdev.com, 4ext recovery and you are good to go
If you are on Sense 3 you will have to downgrade in order to use Revolutionary.io
And of course I concider the ROM in my signature as the best to date
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Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
el_d4rio said:
Thanks, after revolutionary (i'm on sense 2) rooting? Is yours a JB ROM? Anyway, checking on updates from the phone, i got a client FOTA Update. Should i do it?
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If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
amidabuddha said:
If you are going custom better not use OTA
Revolutionary will install custom recovery so the next thing will be a backup of your stock ROM and installing the Rom.zip from the sdcard via the recovery. No rooting, because all custom ROMs are pre-rooted.
My ROM is ICS, there is no complete stable JB yet but once you have s-off you can try them all within minutes. And do not forget to sync/backup your data (contacts, etc) to Google or with some app from the Play Store. And read some guides before starting anything. I am just giving you directions not a tutorial
Sent from my HTC Desire S
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So why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Going custom i guess it's the only way, because htc is not going to update anymore, so better learn how to.
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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so why do you "root"? Just to unlock the phone without touching the FW?
Anyway THANKS A LOT, it's more clear now
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Yes you can root your current software (the stock one) if you need just root for an app or something specific without changing the software.
But going custom means to run Android and Sense version which you will never have officially. And they all come pre-rooted
Sent from my HTC Desire S
One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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One last thing amida... What's the difference between the various Sense versions? Just the theme? Will it be updated along with the installation of a custom ROM?
THANKS AGAIN
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They have different versions, because they are ported from different devices and there are difference between them. Not only visual but also performance.
More info about each ROM you will find in the first post of its thread.
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hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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hello amida, i'm starting to update now... so im gonna do: s-off, recovery, 4ext choosing one of the customs. Which step should i do an image of my stock ROM in (so i can go back if needed) and how? Can you also recommend me an application for my datas backup?
THANKS
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The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
jugg1es said:
The best app for applications and data backup is titanium backup. It also allows you to make a flashable update zip you can flash after installing a new rom
Research is what I'm doing when I don't know what I'm doing. ~Wernher Von Braun
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Ok, and for saving an image of my stock ROM, just in case i need to go back?
Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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Nandroid backup is a part of the recovery and not an app.
Start reading instead of asking, please. The procedure is covered a million times in a million places.
To the answering guys, (almost) off-topic:
I have a riddle for you, or actually, a somewhat sad observation to share and see your opinions. Since this thread is one of the examples for what I'm going to talk about, and it's useless anyway, I won't feel any remorse diverting it.
I've seen several threads during the last couple of weeks where a random noob got the best out of one of the knowledgeable members of the community - in this and other forums - and they helped him instead of sending him to read stuff that he was supposed to be reading to know the answer.
In absolutely all of those threads, noob questions continued and deteriorated to the most basic ones. There wasn't even one thread where the noob wouldn't continue with flood of basic FAQ-sort of questions.
I've wrote in a couple of them more or less what I wrote here - an unpleasant message to stop the flood of baby questions.
All of the noobs were offended.
All of the noobs actually searched and found their answer after that message, and stopped the flood (with a message that here, they were so great they actually found everything themselves).
It's kinda sad, don't you think? Quite a few times bad treatment seems the most efficient way to achieve the best results... Guess there's no miraculous other way I'm missing, or maybe there is?
(P.S. I'm also moderating a local motorcyclists forum, and keeping the same harsh line in technical sub-forum. Works 100% for >5 years already. But sometimes it gets you wondering about human nature...)
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don't worry i'm not offended... i read most of the stuff and guides out here, not taking just a minute to post the thread and having everyhting done by someone else.. i just needed directions! Anyway, if you don't want this kinda stuff in the forum, just put it in the registration form, newbies not accepted, and the prolem is solved
There is another thing that's floating around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
yup
Okay, Let me start by saying two things. Yes I'm new to this. And yes I looked in the forums for something similar.
Now, basically I just recently rooted my Samsung Galaxy S 4G. It is Model SGH-T959V, Firmware 2.2.1, Baseband T959VUVKB5, Build FROYO.VUVKB5. There are a few things I was wanting to ask the community.
Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
Secondly, I've been looking into getting some custom roms. So far the only things I have found haven't been comprehensible. They either require a higher firmware version, have no explanation as to what the rom does, or have highly technical steps which are way beyond me. Does anyone have any recommendations as to what would be some good roms? What they do? And the benefits of using them?
If this has all been discussed somewhere else and have just missed it, please feel free to link to the thread and close this one.
ok i see you are new to the concept of flashing and rooting ....etc) you should try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1001759
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Is it possible or a good idea to update it to JB, ICS, GB. And if so what are the benefits and procedures to do so?
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First, you should start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716 Second here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V now you have all the source of instructions and guides to follow all you have to do is take some time to read and search. and now good luck to you and your phone..
Well, as for the Odin thing a lot of people have said it can brick your device, and that's not something wanna do.
As for the other guides, I started it, I got to the point where I'm updated to GB 2.3.6. The rest of the stuff didnt say what it was for, so I was unsure as whether or not to proceed. Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
The last one didn't seem to have anything really useful, but I didnt look at every last thing.
And what about useful ROMs? I've looked around online and a lot people recommend Cyanogenmod, although no one has said what it does. I looked at the steps and it seemed over complicated to install for someone new to this stuff.
Are they required for flashing ROMs? Or just extra stuff?
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And what about useful ROMs?
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In this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V it will guide you to rest of Custom rom's and kernel's that you must need to use in order to
start flashing custom rom and kernels. the rest is a guide which you can use and it will save you'r time from looking around.. The only rom which is very much stable to our phone are
GB and ICS while Cyanogenmod 10/10.1 are still in Alpha and beta stage..
Yeah, I saw that as I looked through it more. Just a lot of it is way over my head so it's gonna take me a while to get to it
That's right, you will never get lost by following that guide because everything you need to know are already in there.. just take some time to read and you
will be enlightened as you go on the process..
Well, my biggest problem is I keep looking for useful and cool ROMs, but haven't found any so far. So at the moment I can justify to myself to go through all those things just to not have anything to put on it. So far I like the GB look and feel much better than FROYO. I've found a few minor apps here and there, but so far nothing that has required flashing.
Or you can check some of the great ICS rom's we have, here i am going to provide some links of it for you.
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1733097
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2034855
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1730954
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886035
Or some goodness of GB
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669364
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404863
3. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598561
This are just few of the rom's we have that i personally try and use it by myself, but you can have as much as you like and you can take a look at the development section and hand pick some
of the great rom's courtesy of our great dev's..
Cool, I'll check out those GB ones. Thanx
Good luck and make sure to follow as per OP's instruction of flashing the respective rom's to avoid further problem, u won't get lost as every instructions are provided
for the ease of use and flashing.. and take some time to each and every rom you flash so that you can personally experience the goodness and you can make a choice which rom you think it's best for you..