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You DON'T need ENG S-OFF to make clockworkmod recovery working on HTC Inspire.

Looks like clockworkmod recovery is NOT-Compatible with Inspire's HBOOT version which is: HBOOT-0.85.0019
So when clockworkmod recovery is installed with this version of HBOOT it just displays a black screen (but it is actually working in the background but not displaying anything on the screen)
You can check the HBOOT version when you boot in HBOOT, 2nd line from the top:
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-0.85.0019 <--- this is the version being shipped with Inspire which doesn't work with clockworkmod recovery.
After you flash the downgraded DHD ROM on Inspire it downgrades the HBOOT to version: HBOOT-0.85.0007
This version of HBOOT seems to be compatible with clockworkmod recovery and worked for me.
I used Bubby's "Simple One Click" program released today (RC2), this is what I did:
Followed all the steps from FAQ until downgraded ROM was flashed. Then after running the gfree and sync commands, I exited out of the program by using ctrl+c (^C):
Next, type these commands (yes, "sync" is a command):
/data/local/gfree -f
sync
When complete, you can now exit the terminal on the phone.
CTRL+C at this message, this will exit out of the Dos command window.
Now on your PC click on <RUN> and type %TEMP% and click <OK>. This will open up the temporary directory where "Simple One Click" program unzipped all the files used by the program.
Look for a folder named RarSFX0 (or RarSFX1 or RarSFX2 etc).
Go to this directory (you may have to change RarSFX1 to the directory name on your PC, it could be RarSFX0 or some different number at the end)
C:\Users\<user_name>\AppData\Local\Temp\RarSFX1\resources\required
Copy the following 4 files in a directory (eg: C:\rooting)
adb.exe
AdbWinApi.dll
AdbWinUsbApi.dll
PD98IMG.zip
Open PD98IMG.zip in winrar, it should show 14 files in the archive.
<Right Click> on this file --> hboot_7230_Ace_0.85.0019_101227.nb0
and select <Delete File> to delete this from the archive, confirm the deletion and winrar will update the archive.
Close winrar and open a command prompt as Administrator and cd to the directory where you have copied these 4 files (in my case C:\rooting)
Connect your phone to PC
Make sure in phone settings
<Fast boot> is turned OFF
<USB debugging> is turned on under Development
<Charge only> is selected for PC Connection type
Follow the steps below to flash this ROM:
cd to the directory where you the updated PD98IMG.zip file
cd c:\rooting
adb kill-server
adb devices <-- This command should list your HTC Inspire something like: HT11ST224740 device
adb push PD98IMG.zip /sdcard/PD98IMG.zip
adb wait-for-device
adb reboot bootloader
Phone boots up in BootLoader, follow the prompts on the phone (do not close the command window on the PC yet)
hit power
Let HBOOT search for PD98IMG.zip and load it
hit <VOL UP> for Yes to apply the update, and let it do its work:
When it completes updating Press <POWER> to reboot
Let the phone boot up normally
Make sure in phone settings
<Fast boot> is turned OFF
<USB debugging> is turned on under Development
<Charge only> is selected for PC Connection type
Go back to the command shell on the PC and run the following to delete the file from sdcard:
adb shell rm /sdcard/PD98IMG.zip
Now launch Rom Manager and select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" (version 3.0.0.6 works)
After it updates, select "Reboot into Recovery" -> Confirm -> Grant Superuser access
And the phone will boot up in ClockworkMod Recovery "yeah..."
Note:
I had to download Terminal Emulator from the Market after flashing this ROM.
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UPDATE
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If the process above is not for you, here is an easy way I found out.
This will only downgrade your BOOTLOADER to the version which comes with DHD.
All your apps and data will remain intact.
After you have completed rooting with and CWM shows you black screen do this:
Download the attached PD98IMG.zip and follow these steps:
adb kill-server
adb push PD98IMG.zip /sdcard/PD98IMG.zip
adb reboot bootloader
Phone boots up in BootLoader, follow the prompts on the phone (do not close the command window on the PC yet)
hit power
Let HBOOT search for PD98IMG.zip and load it
hit <VOL UP> for Yes to apply the update, and let it do its work:
When it completes updating Press <POWER> to reboot
Let the phone boot up normally
Go back to the command shell on the PC and run the following to delete the file from sdcard:
adb shell rm /sdcard/PD98IMG.zip
Now launch Rom Manager and select "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" (version 3.0.0.6 works)
After it updates, select "Reboot into Recovery" -> Confirm -> Grant Superuser access
the phone will boot up in ClockworkMod Recovery, enjoy.....

thanks for this. but wow is this motha loooooong.

Or you could use the real hack kit put together by attn1.

Just an FYI, I had the same issue with the black screen but clockworkmod recovery running in the background, and I used this 1-click solution for doing ENG S-OFF, and it work perfectly, the next time the phone booted up into clockworkmod recovery just as it should have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
It seems a heck of a lot easier than what you are trying to do, and I think HBOOT still stays intact.

dougbarrett said:
Just an FYI, I had the same issue with the black screen but clockworkmod recovery running in the background, and I used this 1-click solution for doing ENG S-OFF, and it work perfectly, the next time the phone booted up into clockworkmod recovery just as it should have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
It seems a heck of a lot easier than what you are trying to do, and I think HBOOT still stays intact.
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The point is eng s off is supposed to be bad for your phone. When I had this issue, I just re ran hack kit and installed new rom. Problem solved.

harlenm said:
The point is eng s off is supposed to be bad for your phone. When I had this issue, I just re ran hack kit and installed new rom. Problem solved.
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It's not bad for your phone, and you can reverse it if you need to. If you plan to flash different radios, Eng S-Off is a MUST.

californiarailroader said:
It's not bad for your phone, and you can reverse it if you need to. If you plan to flash different radios, Eng S-Off is a MUST.
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I know that, but the process that does it can brick your phone.

harlenm said:
I know that, but the process that does it can brick your phone.
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I don't know of anyone that has bricked their phone doing it, but like anything on here there is always a risk.

Mr Kyle said:
Or you could use the real hack kit put together by attn1.
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I actually used the hack kit also first and that's what gave me this idea. The only reason I used the simple tool is to flash Inspire's stock, rooted ROM.

californiarailroader said:
It's not bad for your phone, and you can reverse it if you need to. If you plan to flash different radios, Eng S-Off is a MUST.
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This is not true, when you downgrade your Inspire using DHD ROM, it also flashes the radio and you don't have ENG S-Off at that time. See this recent post which also confirms that you dont need ENG S-Off for flashing radio on Inspire.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002226
I tried this workaround because I didn't want to turn ENG S-Off just to use clockworkmod recovery.

dougbarrett said:
Just an FYI, I had the same issue with the black screen but clockworkmod recovery running in the background, and I used this 1-click solution for doing ENG S-OFF, and it work perfectly, the next time the phone booted up into clockworkmod recovery just as it should have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
It seems a heck of a lot easier than what you are trying to do, and I think HBOOT still stays intact.
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This method updates your HBOOT with a Engineering HBOOT, which works but is risky and I didn't want to take that risk .

I have HBOOT-0.85.0019 and clockwork works just fine with my phone and always has ever since I did the one click root back on Feb.14th. So I would say your post is not completely true!!!
Plus I have had Eng S-off just to try it and have reversed it also, so it is no more dangerous than anything else done on this forum!!!!

moe3754 said:
I have HBOOT-0.85.0019 and clockwork works just fine with my phone and always has ever since I did the one click root back on Feb.14th. So I would say your post is not completely true!!!
Plus I have had Eng S-off just to try it and have reversed it also, so it is no more dangerous than anything else done on this forum!!!!
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Well, I guess I was not that lucky. I rooted 2 Inspires and both had the same problem, so I had to do this workaround on both of them.

dougbarrett said:
Just an FYI, I had the same issue with the black screen but clockworkmod recovery running in the background, and I used this 1-click solution for doing ENG S-OFF, and it work perfectly, the next time the phone booted up into clockworkmod recovery just as it should have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
It seems a heck of a lot easier than what you are trying to do, and I think HBOOT still stays intact.
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I tried this method, and I got an error message that says "CORRUPT BOOTLOADER! DO NOT REBOOT! SEEK HELP AT XDA!" I sought help at xda, and so far nobody has been able to help. I really wish I would have seen this method first, as now I don't know what to do! If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want or need eng s-off. Thanks in advance.

lortay78 said:
I tried this method, and I got an error message that says "CORRUPT BOOTLOADER! DO NOT REBOOT! SEEK HELP AT XDA!" I sought help at xda, and so far nobody has been able to help. I really wish I would have seen this method first, as now I don't know what to do! If anyone could help me, I would greatly appreciate it. I don't want or need eng s-off. Thanks in advance.
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lortay78 you may want to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=999219&highlight=corrupt+bootloader
looks like a few other people ran into this problem when using the one-click ENG S-Off tool.

nsnc said:
Looks like clockworkmod recovery is NOT-Compatible with Inspire's HBOOT version which is: HBOOT-0.85.0019
So when clockworkmod recovery is installed with this version of HBOOT it just displays a black screen (but it is actually working in the background but not displaying anything on the screen)
You can check the HBOOT version when you boot in HBOOT, 2nd line from the top:
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-0.85.0019 <--- this is the version being shipped with Inspire which doesn't work with clockworkmod recovery.
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You really need to get your facts straight. The shipping hboot works fine with CWM. So does every other hboot on every other DHD RUU.
The black screens are a result of process gone wrong, not the hboot.
harlenm said:
The point is eng s off is supposed to be bad for your phone. When I had this issue, I just re ran hack kit and installed new rom. Problem solved.
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Also not correct. The eng hboot is not bad for your phone - but using it incorrectly can be.

attn1 said:
You really need to get your facts straight. The shipping hboot works fine with CWM. So does every other hboot on every other DHD RUU.
The black screens are a result of process gone wrong, not the hboot.
Also not correct. The eng hboot is not bad for your phone - but using it incorrectly can be.
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I like your comments ATT1. Your one of the only DEVS that understand the Inspire.

attn1 said:
You really need to get your facts straight. The shipping hboot works fine with CWM. So does every other hboot on every other DHD RUU.
The black screens are a result of process gone wrong, not the hboot.
Also not correct. The eng hboot is not bad for your phone - but using it incorrectly can be.
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In my case CWM didn't work with AT&T shipped stock HBOOT (0.85.0019) for Inspire. It worked with the DHD stock shipped HBOOT (0.85.0007). I had same issue on 2 different Inspires, I didn't want to turn ENG S-Off that's why did this work around. There are may other folks who rooted their phone with the 'Simple One Click' program having this same problem and turning ENG S-Off to make CWM work. I didn't try flashing any other version of DHD ROM or any other ROM as I want to stay stock but wanted CWM working to take backups etc.

I've never had this issue. It has always worked for me.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.

lrs421 said:
I've never had this issue. It has always worked for me.
Sent from Desire HD or Inspire 4G or whatever this thing is called via premium XDA app.
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I don't think you will run into this issue if you are flashing some different ROM over the downgraded DHD ROM. Have you tried flashing the AT&T stock rooted ROM over the downgraded DHD ROM? When you flash a non stock ROM I don't think it includes HBOOT.

Hello!! Root

Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?

kleftisx said:
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
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You may still be able to receive updates but I wouldn't recommend it.
I believe that you're either S-ON, no-root and apply updates or S-OFF, root and NO updates!

Ok. But what is the best method to root my ds??
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA App

Gingerbreak or superoneclick. I prefer Gingerbreak because I found the whole process much quicker
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Im not sure if you are able to use the revolutionary tool to s-off your device, because it currently only supports HTC Desire S (saga) 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002 hboot versions, but not the 2.00..... (coming with android 2.3.5)
you might wanna check htcdev.com for the unroot

I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002

Search and you will find....
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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You need to go to the htcdev site and perform the hboot lock procedure. Search and you will find the post on how to do it.

htcdev method
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..

kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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moloto said:
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
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You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.

Locked radio
tpbklake said:
You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
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With all the respect, yes you can install custom rom with open hboot and you can gain a root(su) user rights, BUT if your rom is not compatible with your RADIO the you are doomed, your wifi, sd card, and another drivers may not be working, and in this case you are unable to overwrite the radio as the S(ecurity)-ON is locking right this. That was exactly my case, i installed S-ON original hboot from RUU 2.00.0002 and the newest Desire S ROM, but my wifi was not working and my sd was not accesible from pc, i went into recovery a tryied to flash RADIO image, but it was not possible, everytime the recovery was parsing the image and then just went back to bootloader main screen like nothing happend, this is because the RADIO is locked, i have tryied more imeges to be sure the first one was not corrupted, everytime the same result..

Still didn't find a way to root my DS.
Can anyone provide me a link to do this?

Go to http://www.htcdev.com press unlock bootloader and follow the instructions to s-off your device. (instead of all the files there, you will need only this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=727371&d=1316684239. Desire S is not at the supported devices, but it works great.)
It says "unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings" which means that it will reset all your phone settings I suppose. If anyone has tried this please inform us what we loose and if there is a better way for avoiding that.
@kleftisx p.m.to me in Greek if you didn't understand something!

EDIT: Misread post
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Root Desire S
i am gonna try it.
thanks

[Q][SOLVED] No Super-CID, can't boot into ROM, fastboot won't flash older ROMs...

Hi, I think I may have completely screwed the phone up...
I've been on T-Mobile UK with this phone for quite a while now, 2.3.5 updates being available in Europe and on other UK providers for ages, and I know friends have recently received it on T-Mo UK too, but I couldn't get it for some reason. Investigating why with T-Mo customer service was futile so I decided to try and set about upgrading it myself.
I used superoneclick to get temporary root, flashed revolutionary recovery to get S-Off and got myself permanent root on 2.2 -- however something went wrong after this and I'm not quite sure what.
On trying the European RUU (2.10.401.8) it seemed as though it was successful, but going into HBoot, I could see it was no longer Revolutionary branded - instead it says:
Code:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Aug 22 2011, 15:22:13
Trying to flash another recovery tool doesn't work, trying to flash an earlier version of HBOOT doesn't work. Re-flashing the European unbranded RUU doesn't work because its now picking up that the CID isn't right, and in this environment (Hboot) my gold card doesn't seem to be working. The latest Desire S T-Mobile RUU I can find is version 1.30.110.2, and as its older I get the "Main version is older" error.
I tried extracting the rom.zip from the RUU .exe file, renaming it to PG88IMG.zip - but same error there - and trying to fool it by changing the version number in the manifest inside the archive just makes the sig check fail...
I'm totally outta ideas here, anyone got any more for me to try, or am I going to have to send this off to someone to fix?
Cheers!
edit: Issue solved, see page 2.

Also, in case this information helps - I do have a goldcard.img but it doesn't appear to work. My CID is T-Mob005
this guy seems to have been in the same boat as me but he did everything correctly - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378921
if he still has his goldcard.img is there a chance it would work in my phone? I've PM'd him asking if he still has it

FrakEarth said:
Hi, I think I may have completely screwed the phone up...
I've been on T-Mobile UK with this phone for quite a while now, 2.3.5 updates being available in Europe and on other UK providers for ages, and I know friends have recently received it on T-Mo UK too, but I couldn't get it for some reason. Investigating why with T-Mo customer service was futile so I decided to try and set about upgrading it myself.
I used superoneclick to get temporary root, flashed revolutionary recovery to get S-Off and got myself permanent root on 2.2 -- however something went wrong after this and I'm not quite sure what.
On trying the European RUU (2.10.401.8) it seemed as though it was successful, but going into HBoot, I could see it was no longer Revolutionary branded - instead it says:
Code:
*** LOCKED ***
SAGA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.00.0002
RADIO-3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Aug 22 2011, 15:22:13
Trying to flash another recovery tool doesn't work, trying to flash an earlier version of HBOOT doesn't work. Re-flashing the European unbranded RUU doesn't work because its now picking up that the CID isn't right, and in this environment (Hboot) my gold card doesn't seem to be working. The latest Desire S T-Mobile RUU I can find is version 1.30.110.2, and as its older I get the "Main version is older" error.
I tried extracting the rom.zip from the RUU .exe file, renaming it to PG88IMG.zip - but same error there - and trying to fool it by changing the version number in the manifest inside the archive just makes the sig check fail...
I'm totally outta ideas here, anyone got any more for me to try, or am I going to have to send this off to someone to fix?
Cheers!
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Relax, you have simply gotten the locked bootloader flashed to your phone. You can go to the HTCDEV.com site and unlock the bootloader and then you will be able to install a custom recovery and root the phone again.

tpbklake said:
Relax, you have simply gotten the locked bootloader flashed to your phone. You can go to the HTCDEV.com site and unlock the bootloader and then you will be able to install a custom recovery and root the phone again.
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Thanks, that's one problem down!
At present I have this RUU Europe Rom that won't load, and the T-MO UK ones still won't install either. I've installed ClockwordMod Recovery 5.0.2.0, so that's good, but I take it I still need a goldcard if I'm going to install a ROM that doesn't match my phone's carrier ID?
Is the reason these older T-Mobile ROMS won't install because of S-ON and the higher radio version number?
edit: by the way, cyanogenmod and similar ROMs appear to install with no errors in clockworkmod recovery but I don't think they are. If I load one of the RUU exes it shows the same 2.10.4 version number with no changes evident whatsoever.

Don't do all so fast. READ FORUMS, READ COMMENTS. Revolutionary wont work with 2.00.0002 . It wont work
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

gefilus said:
Don't do all so fast. READ FORUMS, READ COMMENTS. Revolutionary wont work with 2.00.0002 . It wont work
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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I realise that now... I'm less concerned about rooting / getting full S-Off again and more concerned with just getting any working ROM at all onto the phone... as it seems the only ones that are probably going to work are T-Mobile ones, and the only available ROMs I can find are older - I may have to send this off to someone

So you cab get into fastboot?? If you can then use downgrading without HTC Dec unlocked bootloader, there is a post about this, try it should work and use misc_version to let phone thinks he is on older hboot and then use latest T-Mobile ruu. I hope and it should work.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

i would do this:
unlock with htcdev.com
downgrade hboot to 0.98.0000
use revolutionary for s-off
change cid to supercid
relock bootloader again
and flash the ruu of youre dreams.
think this should do it

This worked for me in the same situation
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443636

Is there a way to get adb terminal access when the phone won't actually load a ROM?
Because all the tutorials I can find for downgrading HBOOT or installing an older ROM (with misc_version etc) - seem to require adb access. I can *only* get into fastboot or a recovery tool like clockworkmod recovery.
Installs of ROMs just aren't working at all. I'm getting "Security Fail" on some of the official ROMs, and the custom roms just aren't working (I assume because of S-ON).

FrakEarth said:
Is there a way to get adb terminal access when the phone won't actually load a ROM?
Because all the tutorials I can find for downgrading HBOOT or installing an older ROM (with misc_version etc) - seem to require adb access. I can *only* get into fastboot or a recovery tool like clockworkmod recovery.
Installs of ROMs just aren't working at all. I'm getting "Security Fail" on some of the official ROMs, and the custom roms just aren't working (I assume because of S-ON).
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Only if you left on USB dedebuging if it's off then sorry can't. Bet if its o n you can easy make him to boot into fastboot. Take a try, and you need to be installed sdk and adb tools on, PC. Try switch on phone put into USB and open terminal, write adb devices if it works there will show a list and HTXXXXXXXXXX something. If it so then adb reboot - bootloader or if you have custom recovery boot there. If don't anderstand look commands in Wikipedia about adb. Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Okay guys, managed to get this sorted.
Firstly, I read that if you mounted /system from Clockwork mod that ADB commands work... well I didn't get to try that out, because something else worked.
One of the reason RUU updates were failing was because the bootloader was unlocked, when I relocked (fastboot oem lock) they started working again, but I was getting Carrier ID errors on the European RUUs and the T-Mobile ones were too old.
I decided to visit a friend who also has a Desire S and from his phone I was able to get the CID (card identification register) code from a smaller microSD card I have -- this was one I hadn't tried as a goldcard before, and I was unable to try without being able to get at the GoldCard Helper app on my phone... so after using his phone and writing down BOTH CIDs, I tried both and it worked -- I now have the phone updated fully using the European RUU.
I think my mistake the first time may have been copying the wrong CID from Goldcard Helper: if you press Menu > Copy Code it seems to copy the code from MMC1, whereas my SD card was clearly MMC2 -- so my goldcard.img was completely incorrect the first time I tried it. I don't know why the phone let me partially install the European RUU without a goldcard and almost brick the phone, but I suspect it was because I had the Revolutionary bootloader with S-OFF.
So in summary if you have this problem I would suggest borrowing an Android phone (any should work) to get the right goldcard CID needed and then try installing an RUU.
Many thanks to everyone who replied and tried to help me, you guys helped me exhaust every other possibility - and I appreciate it a lot! Thanks!

Some Questions About My Desire S

My Desire S' HBOOT version is 2.00.0002 and i want to root my phone. How can i do that ?
And another question; can i import a custom ROM without rooting my phone ? If i can do that, i expect anyone suggests me a stable and good custom ROM.
Thanks for your helps...

welocan said:
My Desire S' HBOOT version is 2.00.0002 and i want to root my phone. How can i do that ?
And another question; can i import a custom ROM without rooting my phone ? If i can do that, i expect anyone suggests me a stable and good custom ROM.
Thanks for your helps...
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Depends, if you want permanent root you need s-off or htcdev unlock.
You can flash custom roms without root if you have s-off or htcdev unlock, look at the index in my signature, there are guides for rooting, s-off and unlock.

I looked there but can't understand so much. First thing, I don't want to change my HBOOT version, so what must I do to root my phone ? I think, for HBOOT version is bigger than 2.0, I must unlock my bootloader by HTCDev but my phone is still S-ON. Did I understand truly this part ?
For rooting, I want permanent root so I can't understand that how can I do this ?

I used the bootloader unlocker from htcdev.com, then downloaded SuperOneClick and rooted it that way.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
However, be aware that if you do use the htcdev bootloader unlocker, you have to flash the boot image yourself if you want to install a new ROM.
To do this, you will need to have fastboot from the Android SDK. I think it is included with the SuperOneClick, but I can't remember.
simply extract the boot.img from the ROM zip file and then in a command prompt, cd to the directory that you have extracted the boot.img into and type fastboot flash boot boot.img (as long as you have fastboot in your classpath). If you don't cd to your fastboot and type in fastboot flash boot /path/to/boot.img
Hope this helps!

I cannot install the Android SDK Tools. Installer says that "Failed to find Java version for 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\java.exe' " but Java is installed already. What must I do at this stage ?

The error is that you're computer thinks the JRE is in system32, which it isn't. You'll need to change it to point to program files\Java or wherever you've installed Java. Unfortunately I'm in Tesco and I cant remember how to do sort it out. Google Java classpath to find out how.
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How can I change it ?

I'm going crazy with Java installation. I can't fix it. Someone must help me !

Try this link http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/environment/paths.html
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You don't need Java for adb/fastboot.
If you'd find a guide somewhere on the internet instead of asking this in the forum where it has been answered 10000 times already, you'd be done with it by now.
People don't want to help someone who isn't willing to help himself, but expects someone to do the work for him.

gigaSproule said:
Try this link http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/environment/paths.html
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Thanks lot ! I did rooting and unlocking my bootloader.

[Q] CWM Recovery H Boot 1.27 Android 4.03

Hi
I have tried looking around this forum for a way to install CWM recovery on a HTC Sensation unlocked S on I am getting more confused and have quite a pile of zip files been trying this for 2 days now
Clockwork rom manager throws a message saying must root phone superuser not found at "/system/bin su or xbin/su I have super user installed
I have tried fastboot flash recovery recovery.img cant find the file or no such file (i pointed to the correct folder) Using Android SDK (not sure if it is installed correctly but had the required files in the folder with the unlock. bin
Tried HTC One X All-In-One Toolkit it said done but S is still on
Any Help very much appreciated and sorry if I have not done the obvious
Thanks
Smokes

Smokes68 said:
Hi
I have tried looking around this forum for a way to install CWM recovery on a HTC Sensation unlocked S on I am getting more confused and have quite a pile of zip files been trying this for 2 days now
Clockwork rom manager throws a message saying must root phone superuser not found at "/system/bin su or xbin/su I have super user installed
I have tried fastboot flash recovery recovery.img cant find the file or no such file (i pointed to the correct folder) Using Android SDK (not sure if it is installed correctly but had the required files in the folder with the unlock. bin
Tried HTC One X All-In-One Toolkit it said done but S is still on
Any Help very much appreciated and sorry if I have not done the obvious
Thanks
Smokes
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with all in one tool kit you won't bring S-OFF
from this thread try to flash this recovery.it is better than cwm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (only step 2)

I used HTC One X toolkit, but it wouldn't S-Off as I had hboot 1.29.0000, therefore couldn't use revolutionary method. In this instance you can s-off using a paperclip, some insulating tape, and running the ControlBear software. To find out how to do this, type the following into YouTube:
JuopunutBear S-Off HTC Sensation.
... That will show you how to achieve S-Off which will unprotected the nand storage to write enabled so you can flash a new ROM.
See JuopunutBear website for instructions. You can find it by typing:
unlimited.io
... Into google.

or you can use the guide from our forum in dev section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661631

Thanks
rzr86 said:
with all in one tool kit you won't bring S-OFF
from this thread try to flash this recovery.it is better than cwm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861 (only step 2)
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Thanks for the replys and help, thought it was working hope I can get out of this problem I installed OrDroid_V9.0.0 everything seemed to go ok until it came to boot screen its stuck there. Might be easier, if I have not caused any real damage to take it to a shop I dont know what I am doing with this
Thanks
Smokes

Smokes68 said:
Thanks for the replys and help, thought it was working hope I can get out of this problem I installed OrDroid_V9.0.0 everything seemed to go ok until it came to boot screen its stuck there. Might be easier, if I have not caused any real damage to take it to a shop I dont know what I am doing with this
Thanks
Smokes
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because you are S-ON when flashing a rom it doesn't write the boot partition by itself
the only thing you have to do is enable smartflash from 4ext recovery and after flash the rom
or
you can follow extra 1 step in the link i provided you in my first post

Stuck
rzr86 said:
because you are S-ON when flashing a rom it doesn't write the boot partition by itself
the only thing you have to do is enable smartflash from 4ext recovery and after flash the rom
or
you can follow extra 1 step in the link i provided you in my first post
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Done the wire trick, got it after a few attempts recovery screen now says
revolutionary
Pyramid pvt ship s off RL
Hboot 1.27.1100
Radio 11 24a 3504 31 H
now asking for update I ok that phone eventually boots up then says unexpected UI error and screen goes blank. I cant get anything transferred to the phone as the pc isnt seeing it
Is there anyway to get a recovery on the phone so I can load a rom.
Juopunutbear backed up my images but have no idea how to get them back. Before the wire clip trick the phone had Super-Threading-Rom-v1.2.1 4ext recovery it seemed better than my old clockwork recovery
If this isnt bricked what rom would you suggest and how do i flash it
Thanks
Smokes

Smokes68 said:
Done the wire trick, got it after a few attempts recovery screen now says
revolutionary
Pyramid pvt ship s off RL
Hboot 1.27.1100
Radio 11 24a 3504 31 H
now asking for update I ok that phone eventually boots up then says unexpected UI error and screen goes blank. I cant get anything transferred to the phone as the pc isnt seeing it
Is there anyway to get a recovery on the phone so I can load a rom.
Juopunutbear backed up my images but have no idea how to get them back. Before the wire clip trick the phone had Super-Threading-Rom-v1.2.1 4ext recovery it seemed better than my old clockwork recovery
If this isnt bricked what rom would you suggest and how do i flash it
Thanks
Smokes
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how did you get S-OFF with juopunutbear method when it was already be done with revolutionary?
nevermind
did you install 4ext recovery?
if yes put the rom in the root of the sdcard
go to bootoader
navigate to recovery
flash the rom

rzr86 said:
how did you get S-OFF with juopunutbear method when it was already be done with revolutionary?
nevermind
did you install 4ext recovery?
if yes put the rom in the root of the sdcard
go to bootoader
navigate to recovery
flash the rom
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Before using bear it said UNLOCKED S on with 4ext recovery found out what caused the issue you replied to i removed temp root with controlbear fone is Soff and boots without problems I ran su-2.3.6.3-efgh-signed do I need to do anything else?
Thanks

If you have installed recovery and installed successfully the rom
then there is nothing else to do
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THANKS
rzr86 said:
If you have installed recovery and installed successfully the rom
then there is nothing else to do
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Thanks for the help, very good forum & very helpful people, our phones would be nowhere near as good without this knowledge Ive added :good: to the replys
Thanks

Just tried connecting to wifi in settings on wifi there is an error I am using Super-Threading-Rom-v1.2.1 not sure how to go about updating any radio (if this might be causing the problem)
Could someone please point me in the right direction, if poss
Thanks

Smokes68 said:
Just tried connecting to wifi in settings on wifi there is an error I am using Super-Threading-Rom-v1.2.1 not sure how to go about updating any radio (if this might be causing the problem)
Could someone please point me in the right direction, if poss
Thanks
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from recovery format all partitions except sdcard and then flash the rom again
if that doesn't work from this guide do only extra 1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861

Thanks, its working fine now :good: