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I just had to tell people, in case you have been worried about trying. I am running this rom right now, the battery life seems improved and the performance is phenomenal. The time I have spent with this phone I have been constantly trying new kernels and roms to see which runs the best, runs games smooth, generally works. And kept coming up with nice looking smooth roms missing the normal umph I am used to.
Updated to C7 A7 today and it works great smooth gaming everything works, the camera is much improved over the previous cm7's. I have no kernel flashed just the one that came with CM7 and it runs games like asphalt 6 perfectly smooth. This is clocked at 1124 as well so it runs cool (Temperature.) .. Fast and Cool Also has 380ish free RAM so it doesn't have allot of background stuff going, I would imaging the battery life is pretty good, don't know for sure yet. And the GPS works quick, connects to 10 satellites sitting on my couch in my living room!
The only real issue is the wifi signal is not as strong, though it doesn't disconnect or anything its just the signal is lower.
I know this is a bit random and what not but I wanted this out here for anyone that was looking for smooth gaming like I was, after all this is supposed to be faster than the tegra chipset!

Cool. I was waiting for it to be out of Alpha, but I may just go ahead and flash it sooner rather than later.

Yeah, take the jump. I haven't found a reason yet to not recommend it to anyone. Been playing with it pretty heavy today too.

Is anyone having issues with the wallpaper not sticking in cm7. Mine keeps changing randomly.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA App

I'm on 6 right now and it's great. Quick and easy just like any other asop or CM rom.
Battery life is the best thing about this rom not including the other great modifications.

xdviper said:
I'm on 6 right now and it's great. Quick and easy just like any other asop or CM rom.
Battery life is the best thing about this rom not including the other great modifications.
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for me battery life is the worst thing =[

Battery life - (Light to moderate usage today) I've unplugged it and left it on from 3am to 8am and it showed 100% still. google and xda forum a little like 5mins and it dropped 2%. It hasn't been charged since and its been 15hours with 40% batt life.
Front camera looks hazy, not sure why but it'll probably get fixed by devs sooner or later. lock screen is awesome, really fast. Graphically every thing looks really good. On sense 3.0 we need to unlock to see time, with CM7 we don't need to any longer General text in CM7 is much biggerand Incoming call text is way-way-Wayyyy bigger compared to other roms Thank you devs ! it made it so much easier to see who's calling now.
i've been using various phones for the past few years and they all had this particular problem i've been facing. if someone calls me and hangs up and speed dials and calls me back immediately, my phone would be engaged. on CM7 and that problem has gone away!!! woohoo!!!!
i can't wait for it to go Beta/stable
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c19932 said:
for me battery life is the worst thing =[
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have you tried clearing your batt stats in recovery ?
its been reported batt charging is a little off for some people. i was charging it last night and it usually takes between 3~4 hours. on CM7 it only took like 1.5 hours.
I've unplugged it after charging and left it on to see how the drainage goes. its seems alright here.

Hmm been thinking about using this but not sure since it's still in Alpha. I will probably just wait until it's out of alpha/beta. I want a solid rom without many glitches/bugs =p

luan87us said:
Hmm been thinking about using this but not sure since it's still in Alpha. I will probably just wait until it's out of alpha/beta. I want a solid rom without many glitches/bugs =p
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Few people see the serious bugs that others do. I dont see any serious issues with my phone...There are "quirks" but not really bugs. (Alpha 7).
Matt

Use "FXR WIFI fix and rescue" from market..Fixed my low wifi signal bug instantly!!.Still have issue with wifi calling after all update/zip patches.Battery life great after stat wipe and calibration..Stable fast ROM with few bugs @-A7..Already dreaming of a ICS Cyanogen..

I think about 9/10 bugs in the CM7 thread now are due to noob mistakes or people not wiping properly or people restoring bad data into the ROM with titanium backup or its a badly behaving app not the ROM.
This ROM is rock solid for me and many others. Looking at the main thread it might seem otherwise because of all the people reporting errors. Not many happy users pop in to talk about how smooth and stable this ROM is.
Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod

dr.m0x said:
I think about 9/10 bugs in the CM7 thread now are due to noob mistakes or people not wiping properly or people restoring bad data into the ROM with titanium backup or its a badly behaving app not the ROM.
This ROM is rock solid for me and many others. Looking at the main thread it might seem otherwise because of all the people reporting errors. Not many happy users pop in to talk about how smooth and stable this ROM is.
Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod
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All I normally do is just restore apps with data from Titanium backup is not the best route to take with CM?

lazystudent said:
All I normally do is just restore apps with data from Titanium backup is not the best route to take with CM?
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Not expressing fact but something I suspect may be the problem in some cases.
Sent from my Sensation using Cyanogenmod

[Q] Battery drain EOS

Hi guys,
I've been visiting this forum for years, but due to extreme laziness, I've never made an account, until now.
The reason why is that, ever since I installed the more recent versions of team EOS on my Xoom, my battery drains a lot.
So I was thinking, what was the last EOS nightly that was still really good, battery wise?
I thought many of you would know, but I'm not sure so I figured asking about it wouldn't hurt
Thank you so much

Solution?
There are people who suggest Wingray Nightly 90 was one of the last 'good' ROMs in this aspect.
If you also experienced battery drain issues, please let me know if this worked for you!
I'll report my findings in a couple of days (want to give the ROM some time to settle in! )
Thanks guys, and remember, if this helped, let me know!

I said I was going to come back on this, and so I am!
I couldn't help but noticing EOS launched a new nightly with a huge changelog, so I couldn't just ignore that. Instead, I downloaded it, flashed it, and it seems my Xoom's battery life, for the first time since nightly 90 or so actually went up again!
I'm not sure, so please do correct me if I am wrong, but for now I am happy with the placebo
Do you also notice a difference?

Battery Life
I'm on Nightly 105, it seems better. Althought it appears Maps is still loading at boot..
Best, E

TheAv8tor said:
I'm on Nightly 105, it seems better. Althought it appears Maps is still loading at boot..
Best, E
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Yes, I have also noticed the 2% usage by Maps...
Luckily, I've asked BRD of the EOS Team and he said he also saw the huge battery drain in comparison with the earlier builds.
But, since I know that he knows, I am feeling a lot safer.
Thanks for your reaction by the way! Glad to see someone is finally trying to help ;-)

Andromadus vs. Jellytime vs. PACman vs. Pure CM10

Hello,
at the moment i am using Jellytime. For now i am happy with this, but i think the battery life could be just better. So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?

im using pacman.. the battery life is good.. i can use the phone the whole day(surfing, internet, texting, music...).. i always plug my phone in before going to bed, and i still have around 10% left
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ddd- said:
Hello,
at the moment i am using Jellytime. For now i am happy with this, but i think the battery life could be just better. So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?
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Using Pacman v18.0 at the moment and the battery life is not very good. Its usually dead by evening.

nikhilmulay said:
Using Pacman v18.0 at the moment and the battery life is not very good. Its usually dead by evening.
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Me too. Battery life is very short using Pacman v18.0, at most 5 hours. The screen is the process that consumes more battery. Maybe it is only a my problem, but with Fallout v.5 I didn't have this problem (but others :laugh.

Well I find the battery life good on pure CM10.
If it wasnt for the graphics glitches when browsing, it'd be a really good ROM!

I have installed Pacman v18.0 about 3 days ago and am very impressed with the ROM. No problem with battery life but one major problem with the phone randomly going into Sim Lock mode. Could be after 5 minutes, could be after 5 hours and sometimes while just using it.

PACman, way to go.

I'm using Andromadus CM10.1 and battery is good...Overall is good except Bluetooth that doesn't work yet...

nikhilmulay said:
Using Pacman v18.0 at the moment and the battery life is not very good. Its usually dead by evening.
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Mine has about an hours worth of battery...
For now I'm switching to my sense rom

On the latest build (build 10) of Andromadus 10.1 I found that the bluetooth was fixed!
Overall, at this time, I believe that the 3 andromadus ROMs are by far the best Jellybean effords!

Thank GOD I got here...
Could someone help me with rom that includes these features?
1. The official ics look (nexus ics)
2. That includes all apps like the sensed ics got. (fM radio,voice recorder,youtube etc)
3. My wifi doesnt turn on when i use any custom rom It just says "Turning on wifi" for the whole day.
4. The settings tab normal (not the tablet type like pacman got)
....
Thanks

battery life when using pacman is sucks, only 7 hours with minimal usage, texting, phone with 3g/hsdpa signal

gunn46 said:
battery life when using pacman is sucks, only 7 hours with minimal usage, texting, phone with 3g/hsdpa signal
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Can someone recommend ROM with good battery life indead of lamenting on PACMAN ?

badmanPL said:
Can someone recommend ROM with good battery life indead of lamenting on PACMAN ?
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why not try the ROMS yourself and find which one is suitable for u. Everyone has a different preference and taste.
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hisname said:
why not try the ROMS yourself and find which one is suitable for u. Everyone has a different preference and taste.
Sent from my supercharged tank
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I'am trying different roms all the time... right now I'm using FullySamsung-1.0.1 since couple of days... battery life sucks on this rom...
I do not see the connection between battery life and "preferences and taste"...
From my experiences all JB roms for DS are draining battery very fast...

badmanPL said:
I'am trying different roms all the time... right now I'm using FullySamsung-1.0.1 since couple of days... battery life sucks on this rom...
I do not see the connection between battery life and "preferences and taste"...
From my experiences all JB roms for DS are draining battery very fast...
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some people prefer to UV their kernels. Some people don't prefer. Some kernels allow UV, some don't. see it all comes down to preference,of course UV also may cause performance to decrease. so it stills come down to preference.
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hisname said:
some people prefer to UV their kernels. Some people don't prefer. Some kernels allow UV, some don't. see it all comes down to preference,of course UV also may cause performance to decrease. so it stills come down to preference.
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That still isn't answer for a question from first topic... "So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?".
It's just general deviation about the opportunities offered by kernels...

badmanPL said:
That still isn't answer for a question from first topic... "So which rom from above offers you the best battery lifetime?".
It's just general deviation about the opportunities offered by kernels...
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Hmm, when ppl say try it yourself, it simply means that u would have to flash the rom to know what's best for u.
Everyone uses his/her phone differently, so basicly there is no ideal rom that pleases everyone.
Everyone will you give a different opinion in terms of battery/speed/etc. That's why it is a bit pointless in asking what's the "best rom" for the other person when the usage is different.
So no point having second doubt and just flash the phone, try every single rom, i have flash from sense to cm to ics and now back to gb.
Go ahead and experiment the roms for yourself. Today someone might give u a suggestion, the next day a another. that's why it is consider pointless in asking such question as 'which is the best can u recommend me' and much better to try it for yourself instead of being shortchange in case there is another better than that is being suggested.

Camera Issue
Does any one facing camera issue?
I tried installing many JB roms but camera lags in all while video recording.
Is there any work around for this??
Thanks..

Bluetooth an Andromadus CM10.1
Can someone help me wh my bluetooth isn't working on Build 12?
I can't receive any incoming file etc.
-permissions are fixed
-wiped everything!
THANKS in ADVANCE Folks!!!

[Q] Which ROM for a stable flash/torch app?

I recently got the Blaze4G and it is stock, but in the past I had the Samsung Fascinate and I would flash CM and AOKP onto it and the camera flash and torch apps didn't work with the camera LED. I read on the CM 10 development thread that there is also an issue with the camera flash. Are there any non-stock roms that do not have issues with the flash/torch working well?

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I recently got the Blaze4G and it is stock, but in the past I had the Samsung Fascinate and I would flash CM and AOKP onto it and the camera flash and torch apps didn't work with the camera LED. I read on the CM 10 development thread that there is also an issue with the camera flash. Are there any non-stock roms that do not have issues with the flash/torch working well?
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You could just install an app from the play store that would give you that functionality. Power toggles is one that comes to mind that works on stock that has a working torch toggle.

anactoraaron said:
You could just install an app from the play store that would give you that functionality. Power toggles is one that comes to mind that works on stock that has a working torch toggle.
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No, I mean with the aftermarket ROMs, do any others besides CM 10 have issues with the flash or toggle? I have no problems with the stock Blaze 4G torch

I'm on the latest CM10 Nightly and the included Torch works fine.

LBN1 said:
I'm on the latest CM10 Nightly and the included Torch works fine.
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Thanks, I'm going to try the stable CM10

tmar89 said:
Thanks, I'm going to try the stable CM10
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No. Don't use the 'stable' build. It's not that stable. Use the latest nightly 3/18.

anactoraaron said:
No. Don't use the 'stable' build. It's not that stable. Use the latest nightly 3/18.
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dammit.. and I just flashed and loaded my apps and settings..

anactoraaron said:
No. Don't use the 'stable' build. It's not that stable. Use the latest nightly 3/18.
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Why do you say that the stable build isn't that stable? I've been running it and it works fine for me. It's randomly rebooted on me a total of 2 or 3 times though, and I feel like the battery should last longer so I'm keen to hear what you have to say.

keiichidono said:
It's randomly rebooted on me a total of 2 or 3 times though, and I feel like the battery should last longer so I'm keen to hear what you have to say.
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That's why I say it's unstable. Random reboots are no longer present and battery life is improved among other things.
Random reboots = unstable lol
I don't fully recall but I believe the SoD was present on the 'stable build' too.

anactoraaron said:
That's why I say it's unstable. Random reboots are no longer present and battery life is improved among other things.
Random reboots = unstable lol
I don't fully recall but I believe the SoD was present on the 'stable build' too.
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2 random reboots in a few months isn't so bad in my opinion. It's not completely rock solid stable but at least I've never gotten a screen of death. I'm thinking of trying out the nightly but while better battery life does sound very enticing, the screen of death seems like a show stopping problem. It seems safer to just flash the lightning zap kernel to see if it'll improve my battery life. When you say you get the screen of death in the nightly, how often do you get it? How often do others say they get it?

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2 random reboots in a few months isn't so bad in my opinion. It's not completely rock solid stable but at least I've never gotten a screen of death. I'm thinking of trying out the nightly but while better battery life does sound very enticing, the screen of death seems like a show stopping problem. It seems safer to just flash the lightning zap kernel to see if it'll improve my battery life. When you say you get the screen of death in the nightly, how often do you get it? How often do others say they get it?
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I don't get the SoD in the nightly. Didn't say I did. But I think the issue surrounding the SoD is present in the 'stable' build.
I believe the SoD had something to do with the BLN but I'm not 100% on that. I know a lot went into getting rid of the SoD and I don't think those efforts started until after the 'stable' build. I also had issues (what seems like) back in the day where when I would receive a call the phone would freeze and hot boot (reboot to cyanogenmod bootanimation). I also recall having major battery drain compared to previous nightlies with the stable build and posted my results somewhere - maybe in the CM10 thread. Something like an additional 20-40% faster drain even in standby compared to the nightly just before the stable release - using the same kernel too. Something in the stable release seemed to be the cause, and the very next nightly the issue was addressed (which I think I pointed out in the CM thread also).
I also believe that the 'default' kernel with CM10 has added the interactive governor since the stable build. I don't remember having that before either.
You can flash the LZ kernel (it's awesome) but I think there is or may be an issue with the davlik. I do believe Thomas is already on this - read the LZ thread for more info. I was getting reboots quite often using it with both PA and CM10 - sometimes immediately after boot. That doesn't mean you won't run it just fine 100%, just something to be aware of. Make sure you nandroid before flashing in case you run into any instability.

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I don't get the SoD in the nightly. Didn't say I did. But I think the issue surrounding the SoD is present in the 'stable' build.
I believe the SoD had something to do with the BLN but I'm not 100% on that. I know a lot went into getting rid of the SoD and I don't think those efforts started until after the 'stable' build. I also had issues (what seems like) back in the day where when I would receive a call the phone would freeze and hot boot (reboot to cyanogenmod bootanimation). I also recall having major battery drain compared to previous nightlies with the stable build and posted my results somewhere - maybe in the CM10 thread. Something like an additional 20-40% faster drain even in standby compared to the nightly just before the stable release - using the same kernel too. Something in the stable release seemed to be the cause, and the very next nightly the issue was addressed (which I think I pointed out in the CM thread also).
I also believe that the 'default' kernel with CM10 has added the interactive governor since the stable build. I don't remember having that before either.
You can flash the LZ kernel (it's awesome) but I think there is or may be an issue with the davlik. I do believe Thomas is already on this - read the LZ thread for more info. I was getting reboots quite often using it with both PA and CM10 - sometimes immediately after boot. That doesn't mean you won't run it just fine 100%, just something to be aware of. Make sure you nandroid before flashing in case you run into any instability.
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Ah, the way you worded it I thought you got the SoD. I definitely notice the battery draining quite fast, even on standby just as you said. Sometimes I fully charge it before I go to sleep and unplug it; I wake up and the battery is at 90% (Estimate off the top of my head). Other times I fully charge it to 100% and unplug it, only to have it immediately drop down to 99% and within minutes go down even lower. I'm using the default kernel in the CM10 stable build and I have the Interactive governor (It's default), and my scheduler is CFQ (Also default).
You've certainly convinced me to try out the nightly, I'll have to flash it soon. I'd also like to try out the LZ kernel as it does seem really cool. In what areas did you see an improvement and was it a big difference?

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Ah, the way you worded it I thought you got the SoD. I definitely notice the battery draining quite fast, even on standby just as you said. Sometimes I fully charge it before I go to sleep and unplug it; I wake up and the battery is at 90% (Estimate off the top of my head). Other times I fully charge it to 100% and unplug it, only to have it immediately drop down to 99% and within minutes go down even lower. I'm using the default kernel in the CM10 stable build and I have the Interactive governor (It's default), and my scheduler is CFQ (Also default).
You've certainly convinced me to try out the nightly, I'll have to flash it soon. I'd also like to try out the LZ kernel as it does seem really cool. In what areas did you see an improvement and was it a big difference?
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Racings unofficial AOKP + lightning zap = WIN
Snappy snappy, stable(no reboots period), best battery life for any jelly bean ROM I've tried, and the built-in toggle torch works perfectly.
just my 2 cents
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Fastest 4.4 KK rom?

Hey guys I just recently got a second hand Ns Im using as an Mp3 player for the gym I loaded ENHDROIX rom but its prettty laggy and stuttery. Loading Pandora is extremely sluggish and actually crashes a bit.
Im looking for a rom with some decent speed and just a few perks, volume rocker wake mainly.
Thanks

tevil said:
Hey guys I just recently got a second hand Ns Im using as an Mp3 player for the gym I loaded ENHDROIX rom but its prettty laggy and stuttery. Loading Pandora is extremely sluggish and actually crashes a bit.
Im looking for a rom with some decent speed and just a few perks, volume rocker wake mainly.
Thanks
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1. Posts like this will only get closed
2. Speed is subjective
3. I have a chart
4. I have a chart

Setting.Out said:
1. Posts like this will only get closed
2. Speed is subjective
3. I have a chart
4. I have a chart
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well I placed the issue of Pandora in there so perhaps someone who uses the phone the same way could input on what they use and that its comparable to what I am looking for.
I would just dump rom after rom until I find something but time for me is super precious these next couple months.
A chart is great but remember Im not using a lot of the features the charts will describe.
Im only using it for google voice (to see my calls in the gym), pandora, play store, and play music, then some web browsing of course.
I actually turned off all the phone and data features to hopefully conserve battery life.

tevil said:
well I placed the issue of Pandora in there so perhaps someone who uses the phone the same way could input on what they use and that its comparable to what I am looking for.
I would just dump rom after rom until I find something but time for me is super precious these next couple months.
A chart is great but remember Im not using a lot of the features the charts will describe.
Im only using it for google voice (to see my calls in the gym), pandora, play store, and play music, then some web browsing of course.
I actually turned off all the phone and data features to hopefully conserve battery life.
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You should look first, judge after.. Who said my chart focuses on features?

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You should look first, judge after.. Who said my chart focuses on features?
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I just read it. I can try the slim rom. Im going to try installing devil kernel later first and see if it helps.
Still just hoping someone who is utilizing the same features I am can drop in and give their input. Not saying any rom is bad or better just looking to save some time, Im on the road a lot the next few months and the gym is my only real down time. Last night it was quite frustrating dealing with pandora.

tevil said:
I just read it. I can try the slim rom. Im going to try installing devil kernel later first and see if it helps.
Still just hoping someone who is utilizing the same features I am can drop in and give their input. Not saying any rom is bad or better just looking to save some time, Im on the road a lot the next few months and the gym is my only real down time. Last night it was quite frustrating dealing with pandora.
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The rom version you are using is partly to blame, newer isn't always better, go back to a previous version and install Devil.. the same for Slim, I wouldn't suggest passing 3.0 as of right now and Illusion has a couple issues, but it has serious speed...

Setting.Out said:
The rom version you are using is partly to blame, newer isn't always better, go back to a previous version and install Devil.. the same for Slim, I wouldn't suggest passing 3.0 as of right now and Illusion has a couple issues, but it has serious speed...
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cool thanks

Euroskank KitKang is another good option, and Devil Kernel is a must for any of the CM based ROMs, in my opinion.
Devil Kernel for 4.4 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46810981&postcount=452

Aosp kwbr

leap_ahead said:
Aosp kwbr
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I just tried this version, and it does seem a bit faster than the original AOSP.. It is fast, but not very smooth, as scrolling seems rather jittery...
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Setting.Out said:
I just tried this version, and it does seem a bit faster than the original AOSP.. It is fast, but not very smooth, as scrolling seems rather jittery...
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for me is the best ;p

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for me is the best ;p
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Try Illusion 3/16 ( I made a bootable version, as the original had a flaw in the updater script, link is on the page) and flash the boot.img from your AOSP rom.. I was getting 5500's in antutu on stock speeds and 6500's overclocked, smooth scrolling and better battery life as well...
Don't try Devil with this rom as it breaks the playstore..

fastest of them all
no need for custom kernel just boot up latest nightlie from Cyanfox and cyanfox gapps and it's the fastest 4.4 rom for nexus s there is ! !! :laugh::laugh:

g33k0 b3lk0w said:
no need for custom kernel just boot up latest nightlie from Cyanfox and cyanfox gapps and it's the fastest 4.4 rom for nexus s there is ! !! :laugh::laugh:
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I haven't tested Cyanfox since 2.02, it is a quick rom.. the site is down, gearing up for version 3, I wonder if our device will still be supported?.. C-rom is very fast with Devil kernel, (the initial release, the second release is slightly slower than the first) and has tested higher than any rom I've tried to date, even higher than when I tested Cyanfox.. If our device is supported in version 3, I hope the rotation bug is fixed..

Setting.Out said:
I haven't tested Cyanfox since 2.02, it is a quick rom.. the site is down, gearing up for version 3, I wonder if our device will still be supported?.. C-rom is very fast with Devil kernel, (the initial release, the second release is slightly slower than the first) and has tested higher than any rom I've tried to date, even higher than when I tested Cyanfox.. If our device is supported in version 3, I hope the rotation bug is fixed..
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I'm using it with devil kernel now as well and it's slightly slower for me than cyanfox's latest nightlie,