Hi,
Is it possible to root the sensation after unlocking the Bootloader using the HTCDev method? without installing the CWM and custom Recovery.
I had to run the RUU and lost all my data recently when i was unable to revert back to stock recovery using the Guide on the forums and would like to avoid custom recovery if rooting is possible without
Don't do the HTCDev method, that's gonna like void your warranty, and it doesn't even do the job. Just go and try the step by step again, and maybe you'll get a better result
But I've already done that, don't think there's a way to revert (yet).
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I don't think so.
To install root, you'd need to get a root prompt in shell, then mount /system rewrite, then copy over an app and a half binary, then make a symlink with that binary, which is a lot of work when flashing cwm then a su install zip will accomplish this with much more ease.
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So I'm helping my friend root his 4g slide (Having lots of experience doing this for the last year) but here's my problem. Everytime i go into recovery and install the new rom. On the reboot it begins to load up the new rom, then flashes over to the old stock rom. No matter how many times i do it or with different roms this happens. And when the stock rom loads i do not have root access, however recovery stays installed. I'm dumfounded by this and have searched as best i can with little results on this issue. Anyone have any Idea's?
You have Clockwork Recovery, but no root access on your Stock Rom. What I can think of is...
1) Your only Temp Rooted
2) Your S-On
3) You did all the rooting steps, but forgot to flash the Superuser Zip with Root access on it.
4) If you flash a ROM, but when it reboots your on the Stock DS Rom. Your S is on. This stops you from over writing the System. It does a check against the System to make sure that it's running the Stock Rom.
Just simply get S-Off. Very easy. Freevo is only a Temp Root. Revolutionary is the S-Off. You have to flash the SU Zip for full root access. This is all I can think of.
Try formatting system under mounts and storage in recovery.
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Under was right. The boot showed it as s off with the s off boot version, wiping the system fixed it. Thank you very Mich gentleman.
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First i s-off with revulutionary and i cant do root. Secon question if i root my phone but not install custom room will i be able to update my phone with ICS via OTA when its realase. Thanks
Your first question is lacking detail. Second, upon installing a custom rom, you abandon OTA updates for better, custom roms. That being said, just wait for one of our talented devs to build their ICS roms off the official release, which will only be a day or two after the official release.
you will be able to get ota update if you are root. but after ota update u may lose your root.
goggi10 said:
First i s-off with revulutionary and i cant do root. Secon question if i root my phone but not install custom room will i be able to update my phone with ICS via OTA when its realase. Thanks
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You need to flash custom recovery and superuser to get root access. Now for ota you need stock recovery so even if you run rooted stock Rom you can't install ota update. You need to run ur ruu then install stock Rom with recovery to get any ota update.
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jasminthoria said:
You need to flash custom recovery and superuser to get root access. Now for ota you need stock recovery so even if you run rooted stock Rom you can't install ota update. You need to run ur ruu then install stock Rom with recovery to get any ota update.
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If anyone runs Stock rooted RUU ( coz to root , custom recovery is not mandatory) , he will be able to get OTA update.
musarraf172 said:
If anyone runs Stock rooted RUU ( coz to root , custom recovery is not mandatory) , he will be able to get OTA update.
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If you don't install custom recovery. Or don't want to change any Rom or anything in ur phone what is the point of rooting. In my opinion then better not to root at least u don't void warranty.
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jasminthoria said:
If you don't install custom recovery. Or don't want to change any Rom or anything in ur phone what is the point of rooting. In my opinion then better not to root at least u don't void warranty.
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He he, there are many reason for which I wan to be root even on stock. like I want to use titanium backup, to install custom boot animation and sound, to use addfree, to use root explorer, to use samba, to use SD Speed boost, to use Wifi adb, and many more.
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He he, there are many reason for which I wan to be root even on stock. like I want to use titanium backup, to install custom boot animation and sound, to use addfree, to use root explorer, to use samba, to use SD Speed boost, to use Wifi adb, and many more.
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That's good but still doesn't serve the full purpose of rooting. Any way let's cut the chase its all personal choice, you like it that way while I like it other way.
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That's good but still doesn't serve the full purpose of rooting. Any way let's cut the chase its all personal choice, you like it that way while I like it other way.
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Anyway staying apart from chase , I would tell you that I do use custom ROM (you can see from my signature). But to install custom ROM on sensation , you need not to be root . At least it is not mandatory. What is mandatory is you must be S-OFF and a custom recovery installed. To install custom recovery you again need not to be root. In fact I already have replied someone on how to install custom recovery without being root.
And once you have custom recovery installed and you are S-OFF you can install any ROM of your choice depending on your firmware.
Ok everyone. Horrible question I know but here goes. I want to be right so please excuse a question I am sure has been asked many many times.
Situational info:
HTC one s s4 boot loader 1.06
No regular PC access.
Extensive knowledge and experience rooting and flashing G1 and G2X
Goal: unlock boot loader and open root access to enable flashing of roms via recovery while remaining PC independent
Steps I plan to execute:
1) unlock bootloader on htcdev site
2)grant root access following instructions(or all in one tool - your input here is appreciated)
3)instal CWM
4)download rom and kernel of choice
5) boot into boot loader, enter recovery, wipe, flash, boot
If I have any of this wrong please advise.
Again I apologize for the redundancy of this thread. Mods please delete after my process is verified to keep board clean. I only have one crack at this (PC access extremely limited) and I want to get it right.
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Looks correct. First install HTC drivers & HTC Sync software (in order to unlock bootloader, I believe HTCdev site will instruct this).
I recommend (as well as many others, I believe) TWRP over CWM. ESPECIALLY if you do not have computer access. The 1S does not have S-OFF, which makes it very hard for us to flash kernels & radios. Well, not hard, but you need a PC if using CWM. Using TWRP, you can usually flash these things from your device. So definitely use TWRP for your situation.
You can't root without a PC. It's impossible. You are required to get a token that you can only get from a command prompt on the computer. Sorry, but you're out of luck. But when/if you get a PC the steps you wrote were mostly right
1) Correct
2) FLASH RECOVERY (use TWRP, CWM is not good on this device)
3) Then root by flashing a SuperSU zip in RECOVERY (that's why #2 and #2 are switched)
4) Yep
5) Always always always BACKUP YOUR ROM. Then wipe system, data, cache, and dalvik cache. then flash the ROM. If you have extra time you should fastboot your kernel if your hboot is below 1.13 (meaning 1.13 is NOT able to flash the kernel.)
Hope I helped. If I did press thanks
OP did mention that he will have limited PC access to perform the unlock process, so he will be able to do it initially.
Here's the link for TWRP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1677670 (make sure to use this one, the other link in the forums is for the S3 processor)
Ok so I can flash recovery as soon as I unlock boot loader and use twrp check.
The supersu, that's just a zip to flash in recovery to grant root access?
What is fasbooting kernel?
Thanks guys, appreciate the help. Will be performing this within the next two hours. Just trying to be ready so it goes off smooth. Once I get this done I need to do my friend's G2(condition for PC time lol)
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TWRP is a recovery. You will use that instead of CWM, not in addition to.
If you're going to flash a custom rom then you don't have to worry about rooting first. The rom will be rooted already.
Fastbooting kernel is a method of using a pc + command prompt to flash the kernel on your phone. Because HTC hasn't completely "unlocked" the 1S, we need workarounds like that to do certain things. However. TWRP will allow you to flash most things, including most kernels. If you use TWRP and yout hboot is low (which yours is) you shouldn't have too many issues.
Brief note here, I won't have adb access on this pc....will I be able to flash twrp without adb? I see there is an app in the market for it but seems to require root first. Thanks again for the input
Also, downloaded roms and kernels will need to reside on my SD card. This will become an issue if pre install format/wipe kills my SD card. Please advise. Roms and kernels will need to always be installed from SD card via recovery
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briandresstoyota said:
Brief note here, I won't have adb access on this pc....will I be able to flash twrp without adb? I see there is an app in the market for it but seems to require root first. Thanks again for the input
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You need adb access. That's how you flash recovery, using command prompt on the PC.
Not sure about this app, what's the name of it? To my knowledge you need adb to flash recovery on this phone.
If this isn't possible, you will still be able to root, just not have a custom recovery or flash roms. I don't believe you need to unlock the bootloader to root...not 100% sure but I believe you can root without it, which should be pretty simple.
On twrp website there is an option to install recovery via an app called goomanager. In the app store goo manager states root required. Should I revise my steps to this:
1)unlock bl
2) root using supersu img
3)goomanager install twrp
4)use twrp to flash roms and kernels
I would really love to avoid flashing radios btw. I just feel like it might be safer to let it be. Radios always made me nervous on previous devices
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You could download goo manager from the play store then install open recovery script from menu..then flash the SuperSU zip. You wouldn't require ADB then.
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You could download goo manager from the play store then install open recovery script from menu..then flash the SuperSU zip. You wouldn't require ADB then.
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This is correct. I forgot about goomanager.
As for the radios, there isn't really too much risk on the 1S. I remember it was always a scary issue on the HD2 because of EU vs. US radios, which could cause a brick. On the 1S you can flash EU radios with no prob. Actually, some people report better performance in the US with EU radio. So yeah, don't be worried about it, it's pretty safe on this device - with normal precautions and proper flashing of course.
HOWEVER:
Make sure to only use S4 radios/roms on S4 processor. There is an S3 version of the 1S as well, and you cannot switch any roms/kernels/radios between the two.
Hey hey!!! Made it work. Flashed aokp. Running sooooo amazing. Anyone know how to make home screen and app store rotate?
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Can't make home screen. But turn on auto-rotate in settings and it should rotate the store.
So I am a happy rooted owner. No sound in music apps or YouTube.
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Soo started with aokp then cm10. No sound on either except in power amp. So weird
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Try flashing official CM10
http://get.cm/?device=ville
If you prefer a stock look try TrickDroid or Viper
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Actually flashed most recent cm10 nightly after my go with AOKP. Still no dice. I've posted the issue on both ROM dev forums so hopefully it will get resolved. I feel like it is operator error but I have flashed each ROM twice with a full wipe before each install. I understand the process for flashing so I hope its something small I missed.
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briandresstoyota said:
Actually flashed most recent cm10 nightly after my go with AOKP. Still no dice. I've posted the issue on both ROM dev forums so hopefully it will get resolved. I feel like it is operator error but I have flashed each ROM twice with a full wipe before each install. I understand the process for flashing so I hope its something small I missed.
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Do you have no sound from the speaker or do you have headphones or something plugged in?
Is this possible? Say I didn't want to use GooManager. Is it possible to flash TWRP without being rooted through stock recovery?
There is no way you HAVE to root in order to flash anything. The purpose for rooting is to grant you administrative access to your phone.
I think you can use Odin to flash a custom recovery without root but I think it only works for the first boot into recovery since you don't have root the stock recovery will overwrite the custom recovery.
Again, I'm pretty sure you can. I might be wrong.
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With out root first I'd take caution with what you do, you may brick your phone.it's easy to root, just follow the stickies
stripped down rebuild with clean Rom/Gunther/camblued modds!!!
I followed the HTCDev site for unlocking my phone. Before locking it back, I flashed the clockwork from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113671
I tried to make a backup from there but it was unable to mount system or much of anything. It made some level of backup but I am unable to get to it anyway.
I tried locking the bootloader but it said there was a security warning and wouldn't let me back into recovery so I unlocked it again. In recovery I tried to use the flash from zip option but it was unable to mount the sdcard
Now I am unable to do pretty much anything it seems. I feel like I need to get the default recovery back or something like that but I am at a loss.
Ruu or install twrp using hasoons aio.
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I second that, run the all in one kit and flash TWRP
You're in the One forum, not the SV. Might have better luck there.
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MasterHoboKing said:
I followed the HTCDev site for unlocking my phone. Before locking it back, I flashed the clockwork from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113671
I tried to make a backup from there but it was unable to mount system or much of anything. It made some level of backup but I am unable to get to it anyway.
I tried locking the bootloader but it said there was a security warning and wouldn't let me back into recovery so I unlocked it again. In recovery I tried to use the flash from zip option but it was unable to mount the sdcard
Now I am unable to do pretty much anything it seems. I feel like I need to get the default recovery back or something like that but I am at a loss.
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