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Possible for auto text delete app kinda like mem killer

I would be willing to start a bounty for a auto text delete app... like delete texts for each person after 100 texts... is this possible?

Its not auto, but try SMS Quick delete

No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.

I agree with this post. I think getting sms quick delete to do a nightly scheduled delete would be amazing.

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No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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I think youre missing the point.
I agree, btw something like this would be great. Either running to deleted messages by scheduled task and or delete message based on a specified count.

ebartolon said:
No Offense. But Its not that hard to Delete Text Messages.
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It's not that hard to mail a letter via postal service, but I'd still rather email.

I think it's a great idea, you could adjust it to purge anything over x number of messages or older than x number of days.
I'd love to see this happen.

OP I think you may have a better chance by emailing SMS Quick Delete because they already have the app started...

I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.

subliminalurge said:
I haven't looked into what APIs the SDK offers for dealing with text messages, but just thinking this through real quick, this shouldn't be a hard app to write.
When I get a text, it appears in both the stock app and in Handcent. This indicates that the messages are stored in a central location. The existence of Handcent and Chomp also make it clear that third party apps can access and manipulate this storage.
Performing tasks on a schedule is easy to code.
What sort of features would people like to see in this? Delete by age? Delete by count? Exempt certain contacts from having their messages deleted? etc...
I've been looking for an idea for a simple app to write to get more familiar with coding for the Android environment. If there's interest in something like this, it seems like as good a project as any to practice with.
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Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.

pipskicks said:
Issue is
1. You want to delete it when no one is sending you messages as to delete one you missed which would make you think that scheduled at night is best but...
2. Either count or time (i.e. middle of the night schedule) can screw you up if you get a message and the app then deletes it before you are able to check your messages...
I think it could be anything if you could prevent the deletion of new texts then I guess it wouldn't matter as much.
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I see what you're saying, but if it's properly designed, neither one should really be an issue. If, for example, it's set to auto-delete anything over 30 days old, well, frankly if it's been sitting on your phone for 30 days and you haven't read it yet, then either it wasn't important, or you've been sitting in jail and likely have more important things to worry about.
Same with going by number of messages, you'd want the threshold set at a level where there's not really much chance of you not getting to it before it gets deleted.
Ideally, these thresholds would be user configurable. For me, deleting anything over 100 texts would easily retain a month's worth, but for my daughter, it would be blasting stuff that was only a few hours old. (I've honest to god seen this girl sleep with her phone in her hands, thumbs never leaving typing position....)
That said, it would definitely be a good idea to never, ever delete unread messages. Or, at least have separate criteria for unread messages.

isn't this a feature that's included in non-Sense messages app??? I much prefer that version, but I don't know how to replace the sense version with that one (if possible)

I think having delete by both age and number would be best... for example, if it could delete any message that is more than say 5 days old, up to the point where there is <10 messages left in the thread then stop deleting from that thread
and if you could adjust the two variables...
and:
adjust which persons messages get deleted...maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?

dmc971989 said:
maybe even make it so that you could adjust the two variables individually depending on the person?
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Ultimately, that's the idea. Let each user specify their own criteria.
To be honest, if I decide to take a crack at this, my initial "proof of concept" version would probably just have a couple criteria hardcoded in, and then I would add configurability in increments.
The actual "guts" of this program should be crazy simple to code, but being new to Android, I'm still getting used to designing UIs on the platform, so that would be the portion that slows me down (and also the part that I'm looking to get some practice with...).

the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself

Yeah honestly i am shocked that no one has done this. My friend and i have had so many texts our phone slows way down. And then when we try to delete txts of the contact(s) with the largest amount of texts the phone will lock up for along time or untill we pull the battery. After the phone lock up the texts are still there. i would be happy if all my contacts where limited to 100 texts. this issue normally happens around the 1000 mark (for a single contact) from what i have noticed.
Also this has happend on sevral roms that i have used so its def not a rom issue

danaff37 said:
the file for storing texts is /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db
and no that's not a typo, there is a data folder within the data folder
also, by the way, I tried messing with it once to restore some old texts from a previous rom, and kept force closing my handcent and the stock app until I just deleted the file and let it recreate itself
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Yeah, that's a database file. Probably not a great idea to edit it directly, you would want to make changes through the sqlite interface....

any solutions?

[Q] Is it possible to import sms messages to WP7?

as above
i have some important messages in my touch pro that i would absolutely loathe to lose, and i'm going to buy a WP7 device as my contract expires this month.
can some kind soul with a working device tell me if this is possible, or is there any article that mentions it?
Thanks

I think the myphone service should do it...
http://sn1-p3.myphone.microsoft.com/mkweb/Start.po?mkt=en-GB

oh...yeah right
i clean forgot about it since i use spb backup more
thanks for reminding me

From what I have seen and tried I can find no method to restore the SMS from an older 6.5 device to a WP7.
Were you able to find a solution?

Nope-- there are even solutions to import WM 6.5 SMSes to Android, but nothing for WP7- it's far too locked down.

thanks for the confirmation, as I have tried a million things and I even looked at the SMS store and it looks too locked down to even write a app to do it.
Has anyone had success at sync'ing SMS from Exchange? I have got it set up but the messages dont appear to sync to the phone....have I missed something?

darianva said:
Has anyone had success at sync'ing SMS from Exchange? I have got it set up but the messages dont appear to sync to the phone....have I missed something?
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Nope, WP7 doesn't support Exchange SMS sync (or SMS sync with anything for that matter).
Ironically this was one of the features added to WM6.5 with Exchange Server 2010, yet its successor (if you can call it that) lacks it.
Might get added in a few years' time, once other more basic deficiencies are addressed.

weird that this phone addresses the joe-average user, and I dont deny it, but not having a restore/backup function is poor and a ovesight....

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Hi
Do I understand it correctly that using http://sn1-p3.myphone.microsoft.com/...t.po?mkt=en-GB to upload sms through WM6.5 then download to WP7 is not possible ie does not work?
Thanks
Amedeus

Amedeus said:
Hi
Do I understand it correctly that using http://sn1-p3.myphone.microsoft.com/...t.po?mkt=en-GB to upload sms through WM6.5 then download to WP7 is not possible ie does not work?
Thanks
Amedeus
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That's correct, one of the best things Microsoft created for WM6 doesn't work with WP7.

If you copy your important SMSes to the SIM card beforehand they will automagically appear on your WP7 handset.

Thought of doing that but couldn't see how to do it on wm6.5 [I have another wm6.5 phone I could copy to sim if it was possible]

wow, surprised to see my thread bumped up
my sms messages run up to the many thousands
not very possible eh?
but then, i guess a suggestion would be to prune them and keep the important ones

How to copy all sms to SIM on WM6.5?
Hi
Any idea how to copy all sms to SIM on wm6.5?
Thanks
Amedeus

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I just voted.

[Q] Import SMS?

Has anyone found a way to import SMS messages into Phone 7 yet? I'm looking at moving from Android over to Phone 7 and I've got a few years worth as I was able to migrate them from my WinMo 6.x phone to Android when I made that change. If it can be avoided, I don't want to lose all my messages in the switch over to Phone 7.

there is no way currently to import sms or back them up either.
Not sure why you would want years of sms's.

I was afraid you'd say that.
honestly, I'm a recovering pack-rat so by nature I keep things until they get in my way. It has been handy though, I've dug a few alternate phone numbers and addresses out of the older messages a few times. This isn't a deal breaker for me, just not my ideal.
Thanks again for the info.

I can give you a pretty good reason - I need mine as proof against my psycho ex girlfriend. How's that for reason? I guess people have their reasons when they ask, don't you?

tiwas said:
I can give you a pretty good reason - I need mine as proof against my psycho ex girlfriend. How's that for reason? I guess people have their reasons when they ask, don't you?
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then keep the phone with them on it. And if you really need them for "proof", the police can get them from the carrier.
Sent from my HD7 using Board Express

I take it that there is no way to transfer sms from one wp7 to another then?
I have a limited number of texts that I have managed to keep on the sim over the years for sentimental reasons, eg, from now deceased loved ones.
I have never understood why OFFICE has never integrated SMS, allowing you to use plug ins to send and store SMS . They have facebook etc connectors.

I thought all sms, pics, contacts etc could be synced with your email address and stored using microsoft myphone?

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I thought all sms, pics, contacts etc could be synced with your email address and stored using microsoft myphone?
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Hi Kappo
The OP wants to get the SMS's off his current Android phone and import them into his WP7 but has no way to get the messages into MyPhone

Sync Data from HD2 to HD7 Help.

Hi All,
I'm newbie here... hope you guys willing to help me.
Recently I just upgrade my phone from HTC HD2 to HD7, unfortunately I cannot sync / move all my data such as CONTACTS, SMS, EMAIL, WORD, ZNOTE, etc to my new HD7.
Could you guys kindly help, what software do I have to use or any easy way to move my Contacts & SMS.
These to items are most important.
I'm totally lost...
Please help...
Thank You.

easiest way I found to transfer contacts is to use soocial.com. they have a winmo application that will upload all your contacts that you can sync with your live account that your phone will then download.
Or if you have gmail, you can use active sync on your hd2 to upload your contacts to gmail, then hd7 supports contact sync with gmail.
There is no sms syncing available.
For word documents, easiest way is to email them to yourself and open them on your phone, long press the document and save it.

MonZone said:
Hi All,
I'm newbie here... hope you guys willing to help me.
Recently I just upgrade my phone from HTC HD2 to HD7, unfortunately I cannot sync / move all my data such as CONTACTS, SMS, EMAIL, WORD, ZNOTE, etc to my new HD7.
Could you guys kindly help, what software do I have to use or any easy way to move my Contacts & SMS.
These to items are most important.
I'm totally lost...
Please help...
Thank You.
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Well. What is your email provider?
The easiest way of sync Contacts and Calendar is actually having Hotmail account.
And use ActiveSync to put this to Hotmail from HD2,
and set on HD7 Hotmail account which will bring it to phone.
As for office docs I'm afraid the only way is Hotmail SkyDrive or just email this to yourself.
I also want Zune to sync all this content!

Have you find a solution to transfert the sms from wm6.5 to wm7 ??
I've the same probleme.
If I can'it transfert my sms on my new htc HD 7 i'll not use it

No Luck
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Have you find a solution to transfert the sms from wm6.5 to wm7 ??
I've the same probleme.
If I can'it transfert my sms on my new htc HD 7 i'll not use it
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Hi Titeloo,
I'm afriad there is no current solution that i know of that would allow you to export/import sms from WM6.5 to WP7, If you really cannot stand to lose them then i would sync them with MS My Phone. This will allow you to store them online and view them whenever you like, however this solution still will not allow you to get them onto the WP7.
I wouldnt let this stop you from using your new handset though, i also have an HD7 after having moved from an Xperia X1 (WM6.5 device) and i can tell you that it is a completely different experience. I have not seen a single bug or crash on the handset since xmas and most importanatly i never have to restart it
Hope this helps,
Creamy

It baffles me that someone would refuse to use WP7 because they can't read their old SMS messages. That makes absolutely 0 sense to me.

rmcgraw said:
It baffles me that someone would refuse to use WP7 because they can't read their old SMS messages. That makes absolutely 0 sense to me.
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Was wondering the same.. SMS import? Oh cmon

yes for you maybe it's strang but for me it's really important...
I want to keep my sms and i need to export the hold and to back up the news too... because they are remenber... maybe i'm too much sentimental
But for me it's a pleasur to have some messages always with me in my phone
I can't imagine loose all my sms and contact if loose my phone or if i change the rom...
So i don't know if i'll find a solution but i hope because without si problem hd7 look great ...

titeloo said:
yes for you maybe it's strang but for me it's really important...
I want to keep my sms and i need to export the hold and to back up the news too... because they are remenber... maybe i'm too much sentimental
But for me it's a pleasur to have some messages always with me in my phone
I can't imagine loose all my sms and contact if loose my phone or if i change the rom...
So i don't know if i'll find a solution but i hope because without si problem hd7 look great ...
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Yes I understand not wanting to lose some messages, but I can't believe you'd rather stay away from an entire OS than lose a couple "sentimental" text messages.
And why would you lose your contact list?

Export your messages to PC and then send them in text as email

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Yes I understand not wanting to lose some messages, but I can't believe you'd rather stay away from an entire OS than lose a couple "sentimental" text messages.
And why would you lose your contact list?
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I say that because with my phone the contact and sms was save every day automatic so if loose it or if i've a probleme with it all it's save on live
Some other applications do that but miscrosoft block them on WP7 I don't know why, i can't understand ...

Wp7 also saves/backs up contacts to your live account
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

If only there were a version of PIM Backup for WP7..................

creamy said:
If only there were a version of PIM Backup for WP7..................
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Yes if only ...
But i ask about an "wp7 appli" at bloove.fr and they explain to me that miscrosoft block this type of applications...
So I don't know if we'll have a solution on day...

Hello people!
I've just upgraded my HTC HD2 to WP7 and I backed up contacts and texts to My Phone.
Now I can't get those contacts to new OS.
Microsoft says that those will be automatically transferred to SkyDrive in August but I can't wait till then.
I can access both MyPhone and SkyDrive on Internet but I don't know how to sync these two programs!!!!
Is Microsoft so stupid and hates its own users or what???????
I have all my contacts backed up and I can't transfer them to my phone???
Awful !!
Please help,anyhow.
Those contacts are very important to me and I can't manually write 800 of them

Threads... why?

Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen

I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.

In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!

I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.

For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied

Marvin_S said:
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
Marvin_S said:
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
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Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless

I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.