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Still get OTAs while having ROOT?

If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.

KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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Yes!

SWTR said:
Yes!
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Indeed.

KuGeL94 said:
If I root the latest stock 4.4.2, will I still be able to get future OTA Updates without braking the root or custom recovery, well if root gets lost I can always root it again. Just asking, maybe I won't be able to get OTA Updates at all after rooting but I don't know so that's why I'm asking it here.
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The OTA will download but not install. You need stock recovery AND any system file that is updated by the OTA needs to be stock as well otherwise OTA install will fail.
Plenty of threads on XDA speak of this.
If you look at the OTA updater file you will see if uses MD5 (or similar) to check each system file it updates to make sure its as it was originally.
When you root it alters some system files.
Best thing is to install custom recovery and take a backup before rooted. Then root. When you get an OTA just restore backup and flash stock recovery. Then OTA will re-download. Let it install, then flash custom recovery and re-root.

Thanks, well I'll just stay unrooted and make the best out of it, the Moto G is just as amazing as Motorola developed it to be.

No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.

denzel09 said:
No stock recovery it's no need. I updated last ota with Philz recovery without problems.
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Do you mean you downloaded OTA and flashed manually via recovery. You can do that I agree, but what you can't do is let OTA install naturally the way Motorola intended.

No. I had Philz recovery. System stock partition. Downloaded ota normally, reboot like ota update ask, phone reboots in philz recovery and this last flash ota automatically without any problem. There is not need to reflash stock recovery or flash ota update manually with custom rec, only need a non root stock system partition. I dont know if stock cwm or other rec like twrp work in same way but i doubt, always used only philz recovery.

You do not need stock recovery, I don't know who made this stupid rumour up. I use twrp and it flashes fine.
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[Q] Related to stock recovery/ROM.

Hey guys. So I am running 4.4.4 right now on my XT1033. Waiting for 5.0 now. However, I wanna root my phone now but I have some questions related to the update that I wanna clear first.
1, I already have unlocked my boot loader, will that affect my phone in receiving the OTA update?
2, Can I root my phone without removing the stock recovery, since I won't be flashing ROMs now and I wouldn't need it.
3, If I can't root without removing the stock recovery, how can I go back to stock recovery?
4, In order to update, do I have to unroot and lock the boot loader again or is that not necessary?
That's all. Keep in mind that my main concern is that I want root along with, when the time comes, the OTA update installation without any problems.
I am new at this so please bear with me. Hoping for an early reply, thank you.

Anyone?

drag00n619 said:
Hey guys. So I am running 4.4.4 right now on my XT1033. Waiting for 5.0 now. However, I wanna root my phone now but I have some questions related to the update that I wanna clear first.
1, I already have unlocked my boot loader, will that affect my phone in receiving the OTA update?
2, Can I root my phone without removing the stock recovery, since I won't be flashing ROMs now and I wouldn't need it.
3, If I can't root without removing the stock recovery, how can I go back to stock recovery?
4, In order to update, do I have to unroot and lock the boot loader again or is that not necessary?
That's all. Keep in mind that my main concern is that I want root along with, when the time comes, the OTA update installation without any problems.
I am new at this so please bear with me. Hoping for an early reply, thank you.
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1. There's no problem with unlocked bootloader in order to receive the OTA.
2. There's a method to root without modifying recovery. Search for "root moto g modaco" on google, and choose "option 1, superboot". (Since I am a junior member I cannot submit links) :crying:
3. You can also change recovery using fastboot or Mototools, flash supersu.zip and then flash stock recovery again using mototools, which is prepared to flash cwm, twrp or stock recovery,
4. You don't need to re-lock bootloader in order to update
Anyway, I read that you can receive the OTA being root, but only if you have not modifyied system (i.e removing system apk's) nor modifying kernel.
Hope this was useful!

arya5 said:
1. There's no problem with unlocked bootloader in order to receive the OTA.
2. There's a method to root without modifying recovery. Search for "root moto g modaco" on google, and choose "option 1, superboot". (Since I am a junior member I cannot submit links) :crying:
3. You can also change recovery using fastboot or Mototools, flash supersu.zip and then flash stock recovery again using mototools, which is prepared to flash cwm, twrp or stock recovery,
4. You don't need to re-lock bootloader in order to update
Anyway, I read that you can receive the OTA being root, but only if you have not modifyied system (i.e removing system apk's) nor modifying kernel.
Hope this was useful!
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Thank you, that really helped. And yea, I won't be messing around with the system apps, just gonna install Xposed.
2 more questions though
1, Is it possible to flash the stock recovery from CWM?
2, I read somewhere that the stock recovery can be extracted from the ROM of your phone. Is that true? That means that I can make a backup of my current ROM and also have the stock recovery with me, right?
Once again, thanks!

drag00n619 said:
Thank you, that really helped. And yea, I won't be messing around with the system apps, just gonna install Xposed.
2 more questions though
1, Is it possible to flash the stock recovery from CWM?
2, I read somewhere that the stock recovery can be extracted from the ROM of your phone. Is that true? That means that I can make a backup of my current ROM and also have the stock recovery with me, right?
Once again, thanks!
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A recovery can be flashed from recovery, but only if you have it on a flashable zip, if you have it on img format, you need to use mototools or fastboot from pc. This second option is more recommendable
Concerning second question, I think I don't understand you. Original recovery can be found at the original firmware, this means that if you flash the original stock firmware it comes with the stock recovery, but I am not sure that you will recover stock recovery restoring a previous backup. Sorry

How can I update my 6603 an retain root?

So I have an xperia update alert. Is there a way to update to the latest and retain my files as well as root access?

No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.

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No. If you are on KitKat flash a pre-rooted Lollipop.
If you upgrade you can root only if you unlock the bootloader. It is the only way to root Lollipop directly.
There is no sense to upgrade, then downgrade to root. Do that now, since you are on KK.
In short : Do not upgrade officially, upgrade by flashing a pre-rooted Lollipop. You can do that even with an locked bootloader with Flashtool. Find an appropiate ftf.
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I'm not on KK, Im on lollipop but I believe there's a newer version to LP for the Z3. I'm on 23.1.A.0.690

What size is it? Maybe it's not a firmware update.

It's an Xperia system update I can't pull up details about it without beginning the install process

you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root

Richy99 said:
you would have to flash a pre-rooted flashable rom to retain root, ota updates generally tend to kill root
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Thanks, I've been a little out of the game when it comes to flashing and rooting. I rooted my phone about a week ago and put lollipop on it. I assumed it would be the case that i'd have to flash the updated version I just wondered about retaining my files because i've gone through a bit of trouble debloating and tweaking the phone.

you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system

Richy99 said:
you'll most likely have to go thru that process again of debloating depending on what rom you install as it will most likely put most of the stuff you have removed back into the system
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I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?

xdayala said:
I suppose I don't mind debating again but what can I use to make a backup of my apps and app data? to then restore once updated... are there any full proof tools?
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There are loads of tools for this, probably the most well known in titanium backup

Rooted Nexus 6P Issues - Plus Looking to Upgrade to Nougat

I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible

5aq1b said:
I rooted my Nexus 6P when I purchased however a few months ago, something happened which kind of messed up my root. I can't remember now exactly what it was (maybe I updated OTA) however when I run Root checker, I get the message "Sorry! Root access is not properly installed on this device". Also Titanium Backup complains about my device not being properly rooted.
The strange thing is, my banking apps complain that my device is rooted and don't give me the full functionality
Also, my phone always downloads monthly updates, but I haven't been able to install since around June. It has now downloaded Android 7.1.1 and after trying to install this morning, it just booted into TWRP.
I'm after 2 things..
to have a properly rooted phone again
to have Android 7.1.1 installed
What's the best way for me to achieve this? What's actually happened to my phone? I would like to achieve the above 2 things with zero data loss if possible
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If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Droidriven said:
If you are talking about stock OTA updates, that doesn't work on rooted devices.
To do stock OTA updates you need to remove root, you need stock recovery instead of custom recovery and you need to have an unmodified system partition.
Flash your stock firmware then update then root again after all updates are installed.
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Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?

5aq1b said:
Ok thanks for the reply...
So if I don't want to do the stock update, then how do i fix my root first of all?
After I fix my root - Can i perform an update to 7.1.1 via a non-stock method? ie. download the update somehow and flash via ADB or install via TWRP?
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As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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Droidriven said:
As I said, flash your original stock firmware, then apply any stock updates that you want and THEN root. The 7.1.1 OTA is a stock update.
YOU CAN'T APPLY STOCK UPDATES WHILE YOU ARE ROOTED AND YOU CAN'T DO STOCK UPDATES IN CUSTOM RECOVERY.
Or you can flash stock firmware to fix the device, then install root and custom recovery again and then if you want to flash a CUSTOM 7.1.1 you flash it in recovery but you can't apply the stock 7.1.1.
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Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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5aq1b said:
Thanks... And in both cases, i shouldn't lose my data because my bootloader is unlocked already from when i originally rooted... Is that correct?
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I'm not sure about that. Flashing something that upgrades or downgrades bootloader usually wipes data.
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Samsung Galaxy S8 unroot

Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?

minalm said:
Currently have an Rooted S8 which runs TWRP.. whats the best method for unrooting the device as I want OTA updates?
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It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
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Droidriven said:
It depends on whether you're using SuperSU or Magisk.
To unroot if you have SuperSU, open SuperSU app, then open its app settings, find the setting that says something like "cleanup for unroot and uninstall". That will remove the su binaries and uninstall the SuperSU app.
To unroot if you have Magisk, use the Magisk uninstaller.zip(might cause bootloop which then requires flashing stock firmware via Odin)
Or you can just flash the stock firmware via Odin to remove root. You're going to have to get rid of TWRP also which would require you to flash a copy of stock recovery to replace TWRP. Flashing stock firmware via Odin will replace TWRP and remove root all in one shot, no need for extra steps or tricks.
Then you can do the OTA update.
OR
An even better option is as follows.
The OTA update might even be available to the public to download, if so, you can download the update manually(not via OTA) then flash the update via Odin, this will replace TWRP, remove root and update the device all in one shot. This way, you won't have to do anything except flash the update and you're done. No need to replace TWRP and unroot before doing the OTA update. This method skips all of that and gets you the update without having to do all the extra work. You'll have to root the device again and flash TWRP after the update has been applied.
If you choose to do the OTA instead, make sure you are completely unrooted and are back on stock recovery, you can't have root or TWRP when you do the OTA, it will not work that way.
I DO NOT PROVIDE HELP IN PM, KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE
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you have given a very detailed explanation and i fell like a simple thank you would be enough. you helped me out now and i feel somewhat obliged to thank you this way.
cheers

Is the things still the same... namely unrooting will not return KNOX and can not use Samsung warranty?

hi
i have a rotted phone s8..i flashed a stock rom, but phone is still rooted. Some apps like us google pay,mcdonalds tell me that phone is rooted..What i can do?