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Hi,
I just found this app to manage the email and looks better than the stock one.
My only problem is the conversation threads style of gmail, it doesn't appear on k9 so I have 20 different emails for one thread, does anyone know a way to group conversations in k9 like in gmail?
I know this app from G1. It's so old... I do not think, that k9 has anything more then stock gmail app. Also I do not think, that this app is still developed. I think, that your problem with mails thread comes from incompatibilities with 2.1 system (k9 comes from 1.1 times).
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Hi
K9mail is a powerfull app download latest version from dev website at google code or use atrackdog to go there
Latest version 2510
k9mail seems to sync my emails (and delete them) via IMAP better than the nexus stock app
Yeah, I think k9 blows away stock app, I've been using it for over a year now. But to answer the initial question, no way to thread conversations.
Is K9 still better than stock if your using gmail?
What about search funtionality, I doubt k9 can beat the stock mail clients ability to server side searches back as far as you have mail, I didnt think pop or imap support this? or am I wrong?
i use stock for gmail, and k9 for all other imap accounts.
scote said:
Is K9 still better than stock if your using gmail?
What about search funtionality, I doubt k9 can beat the stock mail clients ability to server side searches back as far as you have mail, I didnt think pop or imap support this? or am I wrong?
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If you are using Gmail, no... K9 is probably not better than stock.
In fact, I used to (on my G1) use K9 for several of my alternate accounts, one is a straight up @gmail.com account - another is a Google Apps for Domains account. But, now that I can sync multiple Google Accounts on my Nexus, I am only using K9 for my ISP's account. The functionality that the built in Gmail app provides is superb (in my opinion), as mentioned by the OP the threading of conversations makes it very easy to navigate a larger inbox.
Does K9 have "real" push, I want to use it but I don't want it to kill battery faster than stock GMail apps and it REALLY need to start threading!
So wonderfully helpful ...
k9 is slow.. profimail on symbian is way faster.. unfort.
i tried to email them suggestions but they ignored me..
one reason it is so slow is it is not keeping track of highest message id per mailbox.. so everytime you connect it is redownloading the last 25 messages or whatever amount you have it set to.
the second reason is that it is downloading entire messages.. it really only needs to download headers, and keep a connection to server open while you are in the app and then download the body when you goto a message.
if they would implement these 2 changes it would be light years faster.
lgkahn said:
k9 is slow.. profimail on symbian is way faster.. unfort.
i tried to email them suggestions but they ignored me..
one reason it is so slow is it is not keeping track of highest message id per mailbox.. so everytime you connect it is redownloading the last 25 messages or whatever amount you have it set to.
the second reason is that it is downloading entire messages.. it really only needs to download headers, and keep a connection to server open while you are in the app and then download the body when you goto a message.
if they would implement these 2 changes it would be light years faster.
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k9 has setting to download headers only.
not in the latest release version 25.15 i went through all settings again
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Does K9 have "real" push, I want to use it but I don't want it to kill battery faster than stock GMail apps and it REALLY need to start threading!
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Any ideas?
Yes, it supports the IMAP "IDLE" command, which gives you what you're calling "push" (rather than polling for email). The latest K9 also supports the "COMPRESS" extension, which transfers compressed versions of the content, which means less data usage, and less transmit/receive time.
and latest version 3.312 supports "Storage location"
- regular internal storage
- external storage (sd card)
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and latest version 3.312 supports "Storage location"
- regular internal storage
- external storage (sd card)
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Nice, a great app just got better.
Just checked the market and the latest version is 3.207. Where are you seeing 3.312?
Edit 2: Didn't release K9 is open source, very nice.http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/downloads/list
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..Edit 2: Didn't release K9 is open source, very nice.http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/downloads/list
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yeah, I always stick to their code.google.com...releases, almost every couple of days a new one, quite impressive workers!! I havent used android default email app since,.... I dont know
Should sticky this, this app is awesome and with push and SDCARD saving all the email, even better.
..as I said, ipressive workers, update out k9-3.313-release.apk
Guys
I have just installed the "exchange by Touchdown" app. and I found it very very useful to access my corporate webmail. My question is should I buy this for $20 or will Froyo's advanced exchange features will be able to provide me with this capability ?
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I have just installed the "exchange by Touchdown" app. and I found it very very useful to access my corporate webmail. My question is should I buy this for $20 or will Froyo's advanced exchange features will be able to provide me with this capability ?
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Which functionality specifically?
I purchased touch down back in the days of cupcake. Back then the stock app wasn't very reliable with my setup, plus there were a couple of features touchdown added that i could not live without.
I have since switched back to the stock app because (at least in cyanogenmod) you can now set a signature in the stock email app (biggest reason i used touchdown before, sadly). there are a few things I miss about touchdown from the stock app tho, ie ability to move emails to folders (I'm rather ocd about sorting my e-mail).
Other things off the top of my head that touchdown offers over stock - ability to sync tasks (stock does email, calendar, and contacts only currently), the widgets (if you are into that sort of thing) and more flexibility with scheduling on demand/peak times etc.
Boils down to what you really need from your e-mail app. If you can live without those things, stick with stock, otherwise get touchdown.
I find touchdown doesn't handle external html email very well (meaning emails from other people not at my work).
it could be the way my work does exchange - using OWA, but the stock (especially the 2.1/2.2 versions) does a far far better job.
Check out Moxier Mail, flawless corporate email contact and calendar sync. Its 24.99 and IMHO worth every penny
The 2.2 Exchange support is still lacking in some settings/features. I run the Desire rom for now and pretty much get everything I need with that.
The touchdown is supposed to have a great deal of support for Exchange compared to everything else.
If it was like $3, I would maybe buy it...otherwise, stock Desire exchange support is good.
2.2 is still a bit wanky on the features/options....didn't like at flashed back to Desire personally.
I bought touchdown a long time ago and continue to use it. he updates it often and is really good when contacting him with questions. the stock app still doesn't compare to me, still lacking features.
Just got my Captivate yesterday, and I am having a few issues with some (what I thought were) basic functions on a smartphone:
1. How can I change the font size?
2. How can I separate the email acocunts (non-Gmail acocunts)?
3. How can I use a different signature for each email account? (it seems that "Email" groups all accounts and uses just one signature)
4. How do I move emails to folders in Exchange?
5. Is there a built in alarm clock?
6. How can I get the browser auto-wrap text like Opera?
7a. Are some of these above features disabled or tweaked because of Samsung's own UI?
7b. If so, after root, will these options come back? or become available?
after root, can you just remove the Samsung UI?
any helps would be greatly appreciated.
thanks.
I'm in the same boat you are, and I'm sure we're not the only ones.
5. alarm clock is accessible via the Clock application
6. double-tapping the screen will wrap the browser text on most pages. This hasn't been consistent for me though.
As far as moving to folders, I've only used one Android phone that allowed this. It was the BackFlip and it only had the option because it is using a custom exchange client. All the Android phones using the built-in client (even though the Captivate is customized) seem to be missing this option.
1. I don't think you can change the font size. Samsung has some pay-ware fonts available and the method I used to change fonts on my N1 required root and was a global change. I'm sure it would screw up the UI if you did. If it's a specific application, maybe you could look for alternative apps in the market that can, like using K9 instead of mail for email.
2. Hit menu > accounts and you should see a list plus a combined inbox.
3. Be glad you have a signature. The stock Android 2.1 mail doesn't even have that! It doesn't sync calendar items either. That's two things this mail software has over stock Android.
4. No idea. Seems like a stupid omission since you can see all your folders at the top.
7a. Yes. It's a Samsung-specific mail program.
7b. No. Look on the market for other options. A coworker likes Touchdown, but it's a $20 program.
I have a Droid and now the Captivate. I previously had a backflip. The Droid and Captivate are using the standard google exchange client. The Captivate has skinned the client to some extent but the menu and options are the same as the Droid. The BackFlip has a custom exchange client with unique UI and options. The BackFlip has a move to folder option as well.
As stated, TouchDown is an option for anyone looking for full Exchange support. It will even sync notes and tasks. But, the contact syncing with TouchDown is a little hodgepodge and requires manual intervention. You will basically have to manually sync your contacts to the phone every time you add contacts in exchange.
12az09 said:
I'm in the same boat you are, and I'm sure we're not the only ones.
5. alarm clock is accessible via the Clock application
6. double-tapping the screen will wrap the browser text on most pages. This hasn't been consistent for me though.
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5. found the clock and have my alarm set up. thanks.
6. same with me. some sites work, some don't.
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As far as moving to folders, I've only used one Android phone that allowed this. It was the BackFlip and it only had the option because it is using a custom exchange client. All the Android phones using the built-in client (even though the Captivate is customized) seem to be missing this option.
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LOL. the Backflip was one phone i never considered getting, yet it seems to have the best Exchange experience out of the box?
this is such a basic email feature I still can't believe it isn't included... and I still can't believe it's not butter.
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1. I don't think you can change the font size. Samsung has some pay-ware fonts available and the method I used to change fonts on my N1 required root and was a global change. I'm sure it would screw up the UI if you did. If it's a specific application, maybe you could look for alternative apps in the market that can, like using K9 instead of mail for email.
2. Hit menu > accounts and you should see a list plus a combined inbox.
3. Be glad you have a signature. The stock Android 2.1 mail doesn't even have that! It doesn't sync calendar items either. That's two things this mail software has over stock Android.
4. No idea. Seems like a stupid omission since you can see all your folders at the top.
7a. Yes. It's a Samsung-specific mail program.
7b. No. Look on the market for other options. A coworker likes Touchdown, but it's a $20 program.
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2. i was able to get into just the one mailbox, but was hoping by separating it I could get the separate signature.
3. another feature so basic it seems ridiculous it is omitted.
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I have a Droid and now the Captivate. I previously had a backflip. The Droid and Captivate are using the standard google exchange client. The Captivate has skinned the client to some extent but the menu and options are the same as the Droid. The BackFlip has a custom exchange client with unique UI and options. The BackFlip has a move to folder option as well.
As stated, TouchDown is an option for anyone looking for full Exchange support. It will even sync notes and tasks. But, the contact syncing with TouchDown is a little hodgepodge and requires manual intervention. You will basically have to manually sync your contacts to the phone every time you add contacts in exchange.
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TouchDown is nice. I was using it on my TouchPro 2 with XDAndroid.
however, it is slow as hell on the Captivate. I read somewhere on XDA someone mentioned moving the DB to the SD card, because of the whole lag issue due to the fact that Samsung has all apps/data installed/saved to SD card? is that right? anyway, moving it to SD card helps, A LOT.
post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7273022&postcount=9
Hi all, I'm a very recent switcher from iPhone (just got the SR 5 days ago after owning the original iPhone and then the 3gs for the past 4 years) and had a question about the stock apps.
I really like the stock Samsung e-mail app over the Gmail app for managing my gmail accounts but one thing that is a glaring omission is the inability to archive e-mails. I know you can do this through the Gmail app but to me the Samsung app is just slicker plus it has unified inbox which was great on the iPhone.
In the original iPhone mail app you used to not be able to archive Gmail email for the longest time until a fairly recent update (i think it was the same update that gave us unified inbox- not sure though). Along the same lines, is it possible that Samsung will ever update the stock e-mail app to support archiving? If so, how do you update stock apps? Does it only come with a new OS update like ICS?
I guess I could be persuaded into looking at 3rd party apps but I think I really prefer to stay with stock because I know it has been specifically designed with this phone's hardware in mind and is probably the most optimized with regards to memory management, battery, etc. Thanks!
gmail for android supports archiving already.
You might be able to archive with activesync/imap if you move the email out of the inbox folder but that's more of a hack then anything else.
To answer your original question I would not expect many changes to the stock apps excluding those that are in the market (maps, gmail, etc) until we get ics.
Pardon if this is a stupid question, but this is my first foray into Honeycomb territory. Is there a way to get the old-fashioned, Gingerbread style Gmail app on the 7.0+?
One of the things I liked most about using the Kindle Fire and Nook Tablet was the Gmail app. On a phone, the Gmail app is good but there's only so much text you can see at once at a decent size. But on a 7" tablet, suddenly everything is quite roomy, and I can use a larger font size AND see more than twice as much. It makes for a relaxing read, with the comfort of a piece of paper. No cramming.
Imagine my dismay when I launch Gmail on the 7.0+ and find that the extra space has been used for panes. I now get a list of labels, something almost worthless to me, taking 1/3rd of the screen in portrait, and forcing all the subject lines to be squished and truncated. In landscape, it's not as bad, but I often have to scroll left-right on HTML emails, and then there's lots of scroll scroll scroll. It's much harder to get a good picture of my inbox when I can only see 6 messages at a time instead of 15.
So.. does anyone know how to turn off the preview panes in the Honeycomb Gmail? Or get the Gingerbread gmail working on the 7.0+? I tried installing the Gmail apk pulled from my Kindle, but it just FCs. I'm guessing due to framework differences. Ideas?
I would very much appreciate knowing how to do this as well.
This one issue (Gmail being heavily used) is enough to make me seriously consider going back to the Kindle Fire. argghh!
I looked, doesnt seem possible. If it was me, id use a different client that specifically supports gmail, or the web (i dont think the web supports push however)
Thanks for looking otamtech. I wonder if the ICS Gmail is configurable, since it's supposed to be for both phones and tabs, and obviously panes on phones would be completely out of the question. I could probably manage to get by if I knew there was light at the end of the tunnel.
I haven't seen any other email client which handles threading nearly as well as Gmail, though I'm most familiar with K-9 Mail. K-9 Mail does do a good job with push notifications. Suggestions?
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Thanks for looking otamtech. I wonder if the ICS Gmail is configurable, since it's supposed to be for both phones and tabs, and obviously panes on phones would be completely out of the question. I could probably manage to get by if I knew there was light at the end of the tunnel.
I haven't seen any other email client which handles threading nearly as well as Gmail, though I'm most familiar with K-9 Mail. K-9 Mail does do a good job with push notifications. Suggestions?
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I use k9 also, just because it doesnt thread like gmail -lol. I HATE the way gmail threads its "conversations". i guess its because I am old-school, and havent had the patience for the learning curve. My job transitioned to gmail, and the only way its bearable to me is because i use the gapps outlook connector.
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Hey, i was looking at the stock email app and you can move that preview pane away and get your screen realestate back. Hope that helps.
Yeah, I saw the stock email app lets you move it (though it pops back out every time you come back to the app..), but it's pretty crappy compared to K-9, so might as well use K-9 in that case.
I actually don't like threading for my personal email, but for my work email I find it extremely valuable, since some threads end up 20 messages long. Also, LOVE 'mute' function, which makes it so any thread muted won't reappear in your inbox unless your name specifically is added to the recipients list. Great for all those 'congrats!!!' time email threads that endlessly have new pointless messages.
Doesn't seem possible at first glance to use the old Gmail either since it seems to depend on the old libs.
Tried out the ICS Gmail leaked here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376958 ), don't know if it's the latest version. The left pane is slightly less wide due to it using a smaller font. The right pane uses the smaller font too, so more readable text, but the subject is REALLY deemphasized, to the point of just looking like message text, with the participants being featured larger.
The weird thing though.. open messages that are already local on the device (as in, I just closed them), and you get 1) spinning clock briefly 2) the message slowly fades in (animation). Both of which make opening messages slower. The completely pointless fade-in animation wastes a half second alone. I tried turning window animations off and it had no effect.
WTF is Google thinking? The Gingerbread Gmail has no such delays. Tap and bam, it's open. No loading, no fade-in.
Don't know if the 'final' ICS Gmail (since it's out now) improves on this. Don't have a copy to try.
Finally went back to the familiar K-9. I use it on my phone as well. Still works the best for me.
Doesn't the stock Email client just hide the preview panel when a email is opened in landscape?
Just wonering, what's the benefit of switching to K9? I tried that long time ago but reverted back to samsung Email client on my SGS1.
amtrakcn, stock email client can hide the pane, but isn't nearly as configurable as K-9 Mail, especially for something like Gmail where you need to bind certain actions to unusual behaviors to make everything work straight. It's too bad the Gmail app doesn't just let you slide the pane away like the stock email app does. wtf Google?
(not to mention in ICS switching from menus with largest touch targets and descriptive labels, to permanent wasted screen space with menu bars full of tiny icons that have no description).
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amtrakcn, stock email client can hide the pane, but isn't nearly as configurable as K-9 Mail, especially for something like Gmail where you need to bind certain actions to unusual behaviors to make everything work straight. It's too bad the Gmail app doesn't just let you slide the pane away like the stock email app does. wtf Google?
(not to mention in ICS switching from menus with largest touch targets and descriptive labels, to permanent wasted screen space with menu bars full of tiny icons that have no description).
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Not sure about the unusual behaviors. I'm pretty happy with the Samsung Email client and configured all my gmail account with exchange.
Also you may want to try Kaiten mail by K9 dogwalkers, I think it's K9 for tablets.
I do agree with the las part. I think Google is just so bad at UI design. They just implement fancy pics and animations, ignore how unintuitive the UI has become.