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Maybe it never worked at all, but I'm pretty sure I remember being able to use google voice with only wifi and no cell coverage, but now I get an error message when trying to make a call with no cell signal.
Does anyone know if this has something to do with the rom I'm running, or maybe that last update to the google voice app, or if you genuinely need cell signal to make a call on wifi ?
I am running cyanogenmod 5.0.6.
Any input is valued, thanks in advance.
google voice will not currently work just over wifi. to do wifi, you're talking about VOIP. there are ways to get it to work, but it didn't seem like it was a very simple deal. you need sipdroid, and a pbxes account, and a skype account, and need to figure how to route sipdroid and pbxes through skype. i got as far as getting my pbxes account, but the configuration there was too convoluted for me to want to mess with.
i wish it was just 'route pbxes through skype? click this box', but it isn't. it is a load of configuration. i tried following someone's walkthrough here on xda, and it was still too convoluted, for my little brain
voip doesn't work but sms still does. I'm using that now.
negroplasty said:
Maybe it never worked at all, but I'm pretty sure I remember being able to use google voice with only wifi and no cell coverage, but now I get an error message when trying to make a call with no cell signal.
Does anyone know if this has something to do with the rom I'm running, or maybe that last update to the google voice app, or if you genuinely need cell signal to make a call on wifi ?
I am running cyanogenmod 5.0.6.
Any input is valued, thanks in advance.
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Google Voice is not a VOIP service.
uberingram said:
Google Voice is not a VOIP service.
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that's what i said...
Hey gang,
Does anyone know if google voice works over 3g? Or does it only work over wifi...I am using this app that gets google voice to call me so I don't use my minutes...however I think its still using my time when I do it over 3g?
THANKS!
rayman121985 said:
Hey gang,
Does anyone know if google voice works over 3g? Or does it only work over wifi...I am using this app that gets google voice to call me so I don't use my minutes...however I think its still using my time when I do it over 3g?
THANKS!
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It uses your minutes regardless. GV is not VoIP.
You could use Fring/Sipdroid/etc. with a Gizmo5 account if you have one (unlikely) or a VoIP service that offers a free phone number.
rayman121985 said:
Hey gang,
Does anyone know if google voice works over 3g? Or does it only work over wifi...I am using this app that gets google voice to call me so I don't use my minutes...however I think its still using my time when I do it over 3g?
THANKS!
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Google Voice is VoIP. Just go to settings and pick the setting that will let you choose whether to use Google Voice or the phone. Google Voice is great when you are using a phone without a sim-card and just wi-fi but it works over edge and 3G also.
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It uses your minutes regardless. GV is not VoIP.
You could use Fring/Sipdroid/etc. with a Gizmo5 account if you have one (unlikely) or a VoIP service that offers a free phone number.
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MUCH BETTER. No wrong info please.
UberMario said:
MUCH BETTER. No wrong info please.
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Actually Silverskull's answer was perfect, your info is wrong
gVoice is not VOIP and uses your carrier minutes. The call is initiated using a data connection.
If you need instructions on how to use free VOIP, see http://lifehacker.com/5349506/make-free-voip-calls-from-google-voice
There are rumors that google will enable pure VOIP this year....lets see.
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Google Voice is VoIP. Just go to settings and pick the setting that will let you choose whether to use Google Voice or the phone. Google Voice is great when you are using a phone without a sim-card and just wi-fi but it works over edge and 3G also.
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It uses your outgoing minutes. Or if you use a thirdparty app, incoming minutes.
Before correcting, please do research.
http://voip.about.com/od/unifiedcommunications/f/HowGoogleVoiceWorks.htm
So if it uses your minutes what the benefits of google voice having it call you back to dial a number? Can you explain please?
1. Free calls across north america (US, Canada)
2. Single incoming number for all your house, mobile and any other numbers.
3. Call screening
4. Seemless call transfer between all your numbers without disconnection.
5. Visual voicemail and voicemail to text.
6. Free international SMS.
7. Invite only cool bragging rights.
GV
I've been using GV for over 4 months and since i've used it I totaled maybe 100 minutes from my carrier. I'm not a heavy caller but at east 20 minutes a day. Why don't you give it a try then do a minute check balance daily?
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It uses your minutes regardless. GV is not VoIP.
You could use Fring/Sipdroid/etc. with a Gizmo5 account if you have one (unlikely) or a VoIP service that offers a free phone number.
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This method is used perfectly when you're overseas and want to call the US/Canada for free. You have Google Voice call your Gizmo5 number to connect your call and use the Gizmo5 app to speak via computer. And Yes I have a gizmo5 account and Yes it is up for auction.... =)
As one who uses GV with my Droid, I can assure you that it does not provide VOIP calling.
What is cool is that the GV app for Android provides free Visual Voicemail-type features and free SMS functionality, all over your data connection with no additional fees.
Now, to get free calling with GV and your data connection, do the following:
1) Sign up for a SipGate One account ( Google for sipgate ). This is a VOIP account that has free incoming calls and a free phone number.
2) Sign up for a SIPSorcery account ( Google for sipsorcery ). Requires silverlight to operate the site.
3) Add your SipGate account to SIPSorcery.
4) Get one of the dial plans from a Google Code project ( Google for google-voice-sipsorcery-dialplans ) . Instructions are also available there to show you how to add it to your SIPSorcery account.
5) Set up the SIP software of your choice (could be an ATA with a real phone, SIP software for your PC, or SIPDroid for Android phones), and use your SIPSorcery credentials to connect to the SIPSorcery service. Do not use your SIPGate credentials here.
6) Add your SIPGate phone number to your Google Voice account and go through the authorization process (it will call your SIPGate number).
7) Decide whether or not you want to have all incoming GV calls ring your SIP number or not. Configure GV to that effect.
Notes -- When you place an outgoing call with SIPDroid or other SIP software, it connects to SIPSorcery, which will then initiate a GV callback to your SIPGate number (so that you get the calls for free as incoming calls), and bridges the calls together. This is mostly seamless, however it does create as much as a 10 or 15 second delay before the call is placed. Additionally, on occasion it will fail to bridge the connection (the recipient's phone will ring, but you won't be connected to them).
Note 2 - This will appear as a call from your GV phone number, not your cell phone number.
Note 3 - I have found that there is a significant "dual ringing" problem when you receive a call on SIPDroid and over your cell carrier's voice plan at the same time. As such, and since some areas where I spend a lot of time have spotty data coverage, I do not usually have SIPDroid connected on my phone. It does work very well on my PC, however, and I plan to set up an ATA with a phone at home too.
One final thought -- We will all cheer when Google enables VOIP services for us, but they won't be free (they'll just be cheap, like $0.02/minute or something).
Thank you for your thoughts my friend!
Thank you for this information it has been very informative =)
Hey guys, im wondering if anyone has gotten any sort of Wifi calling to work on the shift? Im rooted with CM7, im bored so i need something to do to the phone lol
I recommend downloading/installing GrooVe IP whcih will allow you to use VoIP via 3/4G networks as well as WiFi. The only requirement with using GrooVe Ip is you have to have a GVC.
Wow thanks for mentioning grooveip worked great and was a snap to set up. Wish I had it when I had my G1 'cause I was getting free internet on it as long as i put 10 bucks every three months on my flexpay account. All well...
Anyone set up the SIP calling feature that in gingerbread? I don't know too much about voip =/
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Once CM7 is updated to 2.3.4 I believe we should be able to make calls over data via gtalk.
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Once CM7 is updated to 2.3.4 I believe we should be able to make calls over data via gtalk.
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Yes, once Gingerbread is updated to the .4 version, you'll be able to use Google Talk for VoIP. Until then, get GrooVe IP. As I mentioned in my earlier thread, all you need to do is sign up for a GVA to use with GrooVe IP.
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Anyone set up the SIP calling feature that in gingerbread? I don't know too much about voip =/
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VoIP in essence lilgrass71 takes an analog voice signal, converts it to binary code, sends it across the internet in data packets and converts it back to an analog voice signal on the receiver's end. Examples of VoIP are Vonage, Magic Jack and Google Voice.
wireless.praying.mantis said:
VoIP in essence lilgrass71 takes an analog voice signal, converts it to binary code, sends it across the internet in data packets and converts it back to an analog voice signal on the receiver's end. Examples of VoIP are Vonage, Magic Jack and Google Voice.
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Not Google Voice.
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Not Google Voice.
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I should have said Google Voice is VoIP when used via WiFi.
wireless.praying.mantis said:
I should have said Google Voice is VoIP when used via WiFi.
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Nope. Texts sent via Voice app go over data but not calls. It still uses minutes.
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Nope. Texts sent via Voice app go over data but not calls. It still uses minutes.
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Your right jesusice. As I originally suggested earlier, get GrooVe IP.
I see. So is there a way I can find the log in server and information to put into my dialer to make the sip calling functionality work with my google voice account?
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What I had to do was set up a PBX server and enter my Google voice information there! I used C sip Simple not the stock sip client on Android, it did not work as well. Then I could make Wifi calls from my cell and receive them on my GV number. I am guessing that is a lot of work for what you want to do, as of early this year tho I think T mobile was the only carrier that would allow you to use your cell and place wifi calls without using sip. Not sure if this was any help but just thought I would let ya know an option! This was the only free option I found as Google does not charge for "minutes"
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Once CM7 is updated to 2.3.4 I believe we should be able to make calls over data via gtalk.
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Wow, now I can't wait for 7.1. Lmao
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As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, GrooveIP is a very acceptable app for WiFi calling. HOWEVER, the kicker on this app for me (and perhaps it needs its own thread rather than semi hi-jacking this one) is the ability to make outgoing GV calls again from your primary headset if you've already integrated your Sprint ph # w/ GV. So, if you set up GV w/ an alternate ph # previously and have hesitated going w/ the Sprint-GV intergration because you didn't want to lose the call-out features, GrooveIP is your answer.
There IS an option w/i GrooveIP to accept incoming calls, but as of yet, every test inbound call I've made has been missed (edit - incoming works fine so long as data signal is strong). But outgoing works fine, voice quality is fine, and the comfort of again being able to use 2 phone numbers on the same headset is awesome. Highly recommended!
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What I had to do was set up a PBX server and enter my Google voice information there! I used C sip Simple not the stock sip client on Android, it did not work as well. Then I could make Wifi calls from my cell and receive them on my GV number. I am guessing that is a lot of work for what you want to do, as of early this year tho I think T mobile was the only carrier that would allow you to use your cell and place wifi calls without using sip. Not sure if this was any help but just thought I would let ya know an option! This was the only free option I found as Google does not charge for "minutes"
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Can you elaborate on this (either on the forum or through PM), as I've been trying to set up a PBX unsuccessfully, and C sip Simple. I can't find the GV sip or domain info to complete this. Thanks!
Hello all. I created this thread to get ideas and solutions to a big problem that I am having.
I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE. By reliable, I mean I will ALWAYS receive my call, and I don't have any difficulties MAKING my calls (like the registration dropping without notice). As I also need SMS across the same number that I am using, the only solution I have found is Google Voice, so that has to be integrated as well.
I think I have tried just about every solution out there to utilize SIP with GV. Either my settings suck on every app I've tried, the app drains power like no tomorrow, or the connection says it's there, but I don't receive my calls. There are only two methods I have found that work great with GV.
1) GrooveIP works great, but only when I first turn it on and sign in, and don't turn off the screen. Once the phone tries to sleep once, my reliability goes way down. In addition, GroovIP doesn't work so well when on the move. Says it is logged in, but doesn't actually work until logged out and back in again.
2) The GV app. This work perfectly, every time, and probably because by its nature it doesn't use SIP at all. The CAVEAT here is, it only intercepts an outgoing "mobile" call. If all you have is a data plan, it won't work.
I want (2) from above to work. I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo. What I need is a way to get Android to think my SIP connection IS my mobile connection, so that the GV app will intercept it and call my incoming SIP trunk so that I can make the call.
Any solutions to this that anyone knows of?
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You can use CSipSimple + PBXes.org as a 3rd option. Read this thread for some good information!
The reason for the poorer performance when the screen is off is because Android lowers the wifi power level when in sleep mode to prolong battery, which makes for worse SIP performance. This is also discussed in the thread I linked.
I would like to note here, I do not use WiFi. My setup is strictly high-speed 4G+LTE on AT&T. My ping times are typically very low and data is at least 3 Mbps. That should be plenty to get WiFi like quality, and the phone does not power down the cellular radio (at least, I've never heard of it).
Unfortunately, as far as I can make it work, CSIPsimple can not substitute as a "mobile' network, and therefore make use of the GVoice bridging.
Same situation here with GrooveIP. I am on Prism phone with T-Mobile (don't actually ever get 4G (even though both, the phone and the plan are advertized as 4G, and people right next to me do get 4G from T-mobile), but get stable 3G.
I also noticed it has something to do with Wi-Fi. I think GrooveIP actually prefers Wifi over data connection, because it would be happily green, until I walk into a wifi area and then it goes red and back to green. I didn't know that WiFi gets powered down during sleep. Since it does, then there is no reason keeping in on. Thank you for the tip!
I will have it strictly on data tomorrow (WiFi off), and see if GrooveIP ever disconnects.
Another weird thing about GrooveIP is that when you use it to call you t-mobile message box, the t-mobile system is not able to read your numerical commands, as if it was missing a random number. Say your pin is 1234, then it will "hear" 123, or 234, or 134 and so on.
But, as far as my own search, this is the only app that allows both incoming and outgoing calls and doesn't trigger minutes count as GV does.
OK, today, I changed some more options in GrooveIP, those having to do with GrooveIP staying on, including having my wifi off all day.
Results are negative, still goes red from time to time, but much less often.
Further options include activating the auto renew option (timed resign-on every hour or so).
I believe this should be possible to do.
bluespire said:
What I need is a way to get Android to think my SIP connection IS my mobile connection, so that the GV app will intercept it and call my incoming SIP trunk so that I can make the call.
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Not 100% sure what you meant by GV app intercepting SIP connection.
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Not 100% sure what you meant by GV app intercepting SIP connection.
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The GV app can intercept a call, and then alters the call log DB and some other things. It sends, via data, a request to GV to have GV bridge the call, thereby using the celluar network to make the call. As I understand, GV calls the number I want using my GV #, then GV calls my cell, bridging the call. Unfortunately, GV will ONLY intercept a call made using the "mobile" connection, and won't intercept my SIP (or "internet") calls.
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As I understand, GV calls the number I want using my GV #, then GV calls my cell, bridging the call.
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I understand bridging is how Google voice website works. Google will call you and then connect to the recipient. But I doubt that's how the android gv app works.
Even with GV app, the phone is initiating the call. All android gv app does is to spoof the caller id (CID) as gv number. So the recipient sees your GV number not the mobile number.
I'm still confused what you are trying to do. Because in the OP, you wrote
"I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE"
"I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo." These 2 are contradictory.
Are you trying to display your GV number as CID when making internet calls? If so, you have 3 options.
1. Ask whether Anveo (whoever your VSP) can spoof your CID. Some allow this.
2. Use pbxes and spoof CID as GV number.
3. Use pbxes with gtalk trunk.
Hope this helps.
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I understand bridging is how Google voice website works. Google will call you and then connect to the recipient. But I doubt that's how the android gv app works.
Even with GV app, the phone is initiating the call. All android gv app does is to spoof the caller id (CID) as gv number. So the recipient sees your GV number not the mobile number.
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I think you are correct in that my phone makes the call. However, when I look at my bill, I am calling a few specific numbers. Which means GV is still bridging the call. What the APP does is tell GV to expect my call, and then route me to my actual caller. The GV app then spoofs/alters my call log.
I'm still confused what you are trying to do. Because in the OP, you wrote
"I need to have RELIABLE VoIP over 4G/LTE"
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I meant this is my goal.
"I can get a reliable SIP connection from my paid SIP provider, Anveo." These 2 are contradictory.
Are you trying to display your GV number as CID when making internet calls? If so, you have 3 options.
1. Ask whether Anveo (whoever your VSP) can spoof your CID. Some allow this.
2. Use pbxes and spoof CID as GV number.
3. Use pbxes with gtalk trunk.
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For 1) I'll have to check into this.
For 2) Am I using pbxes for only this purpose? Or am I routing my call via them? So far, I have ONLY been able to get reliable SIP via Anveo. I've tried a number of carriers.
For 3) I tried this. I used SIP Sorcery to bridge IPKall with GVoice. Strangely, the only time I got it to work was in India. Since I got back to the states it hasn't worked, and nothing I do seems to get it to work right. I consider myself very capable at troubleshooting these problems. Therefore, I consider it unreliable. Also, GVoice only allows 1 codec, which from my reading is NOT the best for 4G use.
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For 2) Am I using pbxes for only this purpose? Or am I routing my call via them? So far, I have ONLY been able to get reliable SIP via Anveo. I've tried a number of carriers.
For 3) I tried this. I used SIP Sorcery to bridge IPKall with GVoice. Strangely, the only time I got it to work was in India. Since I got back to the states it hasn't worked, and nothing I do seems to get it to work right. I consider myself very capable at troubleshooting these problems. Therefore, I consider it unreliable. Also, GVoice only allows 1 codec, which from my reading is NOT the best for 4G use.
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2. Pbxes is not a VoIP provider. It's a system to manage your VoIP accounts. You can link your reliable anveo within pbxes and have pbxes initiate the call with your gv number showing as cid. You don't need to route the incoming calls.
3. I have used sipsorcery in the past, which is known for its flaky behavior. I agree its completely unreliable. But pbxes with gtalk trunk has been rock solid for me.
If you go to nexus 4 forum, I posted a method to make free VoIP calls using ilbc codec, which is the best codec for mobile data connection. My call quality is often better than tmobile's gsm calls.
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acegolfer said:
2. Pbxes is not a VoIP provider. It's a system to manage your VoIP accounts. You can link your reliable anveo within pbxes and have pbxes initiate the call with your gv number showing as cid. You don't need to route the incoming calls.
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I thought PBXes has a 1000 minute limit or something like that. Would I have all the same features as Sip Sorcery?
3. I have used sipsorcery in the past, which is known for its flaky behavior. I agree its completely unreliable. But pbxes with gtalk trunk has been rock solid for me.
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Good to know I am not the only one.
If you go to nexus 4 forum, I posted a method to make free VoIP calls using ilbc codec, which is the best codec for mobile data connection. My call quality is often better than tmobile's gsm calls.
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Could you post the link, please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35701104
Not easy to do while on the phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35701104
Not easy to do while on the phone.
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Now, when you say "reliable", what caveats are there to that? For instance, have you noticed problems with the phone picking up the call? Ever bad audio, or one-way audio, etc. See here's the thing, I can cope with many problems, but I have to pass the WAD (wife acceptance factor). On top of that, I WANT it to be reliable enough to set up her phone with it. Since both will be on a well-covered AT&T LTE network with low population, the network should not be an issue. I get 4G at my house, but it's good signal. I get up the hill and I'm golden.
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Now, when you say "reliable", what caveats are there to that? For instance, have you noticed problems with the phone picking up the call? Ever bad audio, or one-way audio, etc. See here's the thing, I can cope with many problems, but I have to pass the WAD (wife acceptance factor). On top of that, I WANT it to be reliable enough to set up her phone with it. Since both will be on a well-covered AT&T LTE network with low population, the network should not be an issue. I get 4G at my house, but it's good signal. I get up the hill and I'm golden.
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I passed WAF. Good luck!
Most of your issues are answered on that thread.
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Hey everyone,
Was wondering if others had this problem. I have the $30 unlimited data plan with T-mobile. It gives only 100 voice minutes, so I thought I could use a VOIP as a solution. Vonage sounds great.
However, I can only use it over the data plan and not over Wi-fi. The cellular data is ok for browsing but the lag is annoying.
Wi-fi sounds like it should be better but I can't use wi-fi to call with Vonage. It just keeps clocking and then errors out. But as soon as I switch over the cellular data, it's fine.
Anyone else with this problem?
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Hey everyone,
Was wondering if others had this problem. I have the $30 unlimited data plan with T-mobile. It gives only 100 voice minutes, so I thought I could use a VOIP as a solution. Vonage sounds great.
However, I can only use it over the data plan and not over Wi-fi. The cellular data is ok for browsing but the lag is annoying.
Wi-fi sounds like it should be better but I can't use wi-fi to call with Vonage. It just keeps clocking and then errors out. But as soon as I switch over the cellular data, it's fine.
Anyone else with this problem?
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Have you checked into maybe using google talk as an alternative? You can register and get your own number for free and use voip for texts/voice. I used it a long time ago on my myTouch 4g and it was nice. I set it up as a work number for a few months before I got another line. It worked great.
dispozable said:
Have you checked into maybe using google talk as an alternative? You can register and get your own number for free and use voip for texts/voice. I used it a long time ago on my myTouch 4g and it was nice. I set it up as a work number for a few months before I got another line. It worked great.
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Unless anyone else had better results google voice doesnt play nice with tmobile prepaid or family shared plans. The google # will work but the forwarding feature doesnt work for the voicemail part of the app.
dispozable said:
Have you checked into maybe using google talk as an alternative? You can register and get your own number for free and use voip for texts/voice. I used it a long time ago on my myTouch 4g and it was nice. I set it up as a work number for a few months before I got another line. It worked great.
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I thought about it, but I would have to change numbers. And also, the app that interacts with Google voice isn't free.
Vonage is free and when you call using that #, it uses the number that your phone is registered under. With incoming calls, I just have to use voice minutes, but that's ok b/c I can just reject and call them back using Vonage.
So has anyone gotten Vonage to work with Wi-fi?
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I thought about it, but I would have to change numbers. And also, the app that interacts with Google voice isn't free.
Vonage is free and when you call using that #, it uses the number that your phone is registered under. With incoming calls, I just have to use voice minutes, but that's ok b/c I can just reject and call them back using Vonage.
So has anyone gotten Vonage to work with Wi-fi?
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-Well, first off, I don't use Vonage or any VOIP. But try SmartDial. I read its description on Google Play but doesn't say anything about Wifi...go check it out. :silly:
-Try KakaoTalk if you want. It's like Vonage and Google Voice.
Sorry if this didn't really help haha
EDIT: Kakao is more...social media, with unlimited voice and texting. And Viber is another app you can choose from...even though you'll probably have to switch numbers. See if Vonage can forward calls to a new number