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(Q) Change CID

Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?

smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.

malybru said:
Hi,
This is a SENSATION forum.
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Yes I noticed it i already asked the moderation if they could move the thread to the Desire S section.

I need to find this out to? I dont want to root my Desire S, I just want to changde CID so i could put unbranded software to it...?

You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606

doghous said:
You can just create a GoldCard and make it work, without root or S-Off.
Earlier today I created a GoldCard and upgraded my DS using the European RUU and I'm S-ON & Unrooted.
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19171606
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Yes I know that works I have a Goldcard. The thing here is that I would like the phone to be completely unbranded without the need os special cards so in case i want to sell it or send it to warranty it won't be noticed that i changed something there. So if there is a way to re write de CID it would be good.

Well i actually successfully installed the unbranded european ROM 1.28.401.1 using the gold card. But now i can't receive OTA updates. Is there a way to get it to work?

Why don't you run the European RUU 2.10 version (RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30. 0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed) from the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
That's what I did

smash_07 said:
Hi everyone,
I got a branded Desire S (Vodafone Portugal) and I would like to change its CID in order to turn it unbranded. I have tried the fast boot method of "fastboot oem writecid HTC__001" and it gives me back an error as "COMMAND ERROR!!!" with no real specification of what error it is.
Is there a way that i can change the CID?
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Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.

Skanob said:
Just to answer your question:
(I may need to be corrected on this one)
Based on my observation and experimentation. The CID that you are trying to change, or the CID that the RUU is checking is actually on the build.prop on your phone.
Code:
ro.aa.maincid
But there are two checks that I've observed. Even though you changed the maincid, the corresponding cwkey should be changed accordingly.
cwkey created on your phone corresponds on what is on the build.prop and I believe is also being checked by RUUs.
And maybe just to be on the safe side, RUUs do check what is on your build.prop. If they are not what your RUU wants, it will not push through. Hence, you need a GoldCard.
I myself don't exactly, by codes, know how the GoldCard bypasses the checks. All I do know, is that it works.
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So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?

smash_07 said:
So what that means is the phone has to stay branded? There is no way that we can fully unbrand the phone by changing the CID?
And after we use the Goldcard what happens to the CID of the phone?
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The goldcard does not alter the CID. It just tells the bootloader to ignore the CID check when running a RUU.
One way to alter the CID is to XTC clip the phone.

Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?

smash_07 said:
Well i ended up doing what you all suggested and flashed the RUU with the 2.10 european rom with the goldcard in it.
But something went wrong and my Desire S is in a strange situation. For some reason the Goldcard did not work like the first time and gave me a CID error. But it flashed the hboot 2.00.0002 but retained the 1.28 rom i had installed on it. I have used the HTCDev method to unlock the bootloader but everytime i try to flash the 1.28 RUU again (to flash the old hboot again) it gives me an "unknown error" that is actually a security error.
Is there a way to get the old hboot back?
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My reply to this post of yours is already a hint.
Use search PLEASE.

[Q] RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9 signed.exe

Hi, currently have installed RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.8 on Desire S downloaded new RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.9, as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3#post21993363 Getting error when trying to install...any suggestions
Thanks

iside this flash i can see only one cid number
cidnum: HTC__A07
so maybe this flash only for phones with this only CID ...

RolF2 said:
iside this flash i can see only one cid number
cidnum: HTC__A07
so maybe this flash only for phones with this only CID ...
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Thanks for reply..my Desire S CID is HTC_001
What does that mean and do you know what HTC_A07 means
Thanks

It means that each device is meant to have different OTA updates.
You can easily bypass the CID check by creating a GoldCard that it will allow you to install any RUU you want to your phone.
I suggest you use a spare SD card or that you backup your entire data from your SD before doing anything.
You can follow the instructions from here (these are the ones I also followed when I flashed the Sense 3.0 RUU).
I'm attaching the GoldCard Tool v 0.0.7 since the vorbeth seems to be down ATM.
Also in the instructions at the point that you're required to visit reviskills.de website, the exact link is: http://psas.revskills.de/?q=goldcard
I hope the above helps!

does anyone have the changelog for this update?

Thanks for your reply guys, I will certainly try and let you know.
Thanks again

000Max, regarding the meaning of each CID, I found in my bookmarks this thread.
Even though it's in the HTC Sensation subforum, it seems to be the same for our devices too

000Max said:
Thanks for your reply guys, I will certainly try and let you know.
Thanks again
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Howsit dude
did you come right?have you rooted your phone?
i just got a desireS on mtn and its sense 2.1 i want to also update to the latest firmware

[Q] cid change and OTA updates???

hello i just changed my cid from HTC__203 to HTC__E11 (dutch), do i still receive ota updates and what about warranty does it affect it???
btw I live in the Netherlands and dit try to search but without any significant results.
edit: after a hardreset i see that i do get OTA updates from HTC so that part is ok.
Now just for the warranty part....

lexuz said:
hello i just changed my cid from HTC__203 to HTC__E11 (dutch), do i still receive ota updates and what about warranty does it affect it???
btw I live in the Netherlands and dit try to search but without any significant results.
edit: after a hardreset i see that i do get OTA updates from HTC so that part is ok.
Now just for the warranty part....
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the ota works i just know that i don't know if it invalidates the warranty...but if you flash the right RUU (always do it before sending it to HTC) you will get your CID back

matt95 said:
the ota works i just know that i don't know if it invalidates the warranty...but if you flash the right RUU (always do it before sending it to HTC) you will get your CID back
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Hi, how do i know witch ruu to use? (Old cid was htc__203)
Off topic: beautiful city u come from.

here you can find all the RUUs but you have to be registered and pay however you can find which is your RUU and google it

matt95 said:
here you can find all the RUUs but you have to be registered and pay however you can find which is your RUU and google it
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If if download a ruu and then flash it, don't i keep de cid that i now have? I know that after a hardreset the cid stays the same.

I can confirm flashing a RUU NOT gives you your CID back.. I flashed 1.45 RUU and my CID is still 111111
Sent from my Pyramid-T using xda premium

BurnRubber90 said:
I can confirm flashing a RUU NOT gives you your CID back.. I flashed 1.45 RUU and my CID is still 111111
Sent from my Pyramid-T using xda premium
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just like i thought, how the h#ll do i change my cid back to original?
If someone can confirm that Cid change doesn't affect warranty then this thread can be closed

If you want to change your Cid back just use the same process you used to change it, and if you don't know your Cid look here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475

Zylograth said:
If you want to change your Cid back just use the same process you used to change it, and if you don't know your Cid look here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475
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I do know that thread but i'm still s-on and it seems that i can't change my cid back. ( i thought i saw someone else with the same problem in this forum.)
It seems i could only change it once with s-on.

S-OFF and warranty

I am sorry, because this have probably been asked many times, but I have a little more specific question. I have HTC Sensation rooted, and S-OFF. Now I want to send it to the service under warranty, because I noticed there is a dust under my screen.
I know what I have to do, but I dont know which default rom should I choose, so they definitely would not suspect anything. Does it have to be carrier specific or just some random EU rom? I am from Slovenia, my carrier is Simobil (Vodafone).
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

you need to flash one based on your cid which kinda gives you carrier,country info
use this guide as reference

Thank you, i just read this, however I still dont know how to find the right ruu for my phone. There is no Simobil Slovenia on the ruu list. Any other way to find out which rom to flash? The thing is I dont really remember whether I changed my CID at some point or not, so I might not be able to see/find the correct one.
Thanks again.

Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?

vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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Hi,
CIDGetter will show you your original CID.
When you check it via fastboot,you will get your ACTUAL CID.
If you are s-off,then , you should be able to run a European RUU and get back to stock.
Then, follow the guide ganesh gave you to s-on.

vrocipes said:
Ok here is what I found out now:
If i check for CID via fastboot i get this: 11111111 (i remember now, i set this)
But if i check it via application CIDgetter i get this: HTC_032
Q: Is this HTC_032 the true default CID or it could be just the info of currently installed rom, which is Viper 1.3.5 ?
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the cid you got via fastboot is the current one you are having
and HTC_032 is the rom cid ..so if you are having stock rom ..it represents your actual cid

Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.

vrocipes said:
Thank you both for your answers. Hmm, so one of you think that CIDgetter gives you original cid, and one thinks it gives you the CID of current rom. If ganeshp is right, then I still dont know my original CID, as currently I have Viper S 1.3.5 rom :// If malybru is right then I have to flash rom with HTC_032 CID and not just any European rom? Again it is important, because I dont want to get rejected on my warranty...
Thanks again.
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both of us (me and Malybru ) are saying the same thing
cid from fastboot ..gives you the actual/current cid you have right now
cid from cid getter ..will give you the rom cid (in case of viper it is HTC__032)
also based on your country ..i think the fitting RUU is indeed is of European Unbranded one (as malybru said )
if the phone is not linked to carrier (like contract phone ) then European unbranded is the right RUU

It has been bought through carrier contract, but they stopped locking them, but it could still be locked in case it was from old stock... I'll have to try that, so in case it is locked to the carrier, I need different rom? Im sorry for so many questions but im really lost in finding the right rom.

[Q] Telstra One XL Help.....

I was wondering if someone could help me? ... I recently acquired a Telstra Htc One XL and am having troubles trying to update.
Current stats
android 4.1.1
sense 4+
software 3.17.841.2
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
*****locked*****
CID-11111111
HBOOT 2.14.0000
RADIO- 0.23a.32.09.29
I'm 99.9% sure most testra one xl's are up to 4.2.2 with sense 5 which is i think two updates in front of mine
can anyone shed some light on my situation?

When you say you're having trouble updating what exactly do you mean?
Sent from my Evita

When i "Check for Updates" it tell me that there are no more updates.... when Im sure there are another two...

Are you in Australia?
Sent from my Evita

Sure am ... Good old city of churches" Adelaide" ..

timmaaa said:
Are you in Australia?
Sent from my Evita
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His profile says he is

Yeah, but still needed to check. Have you thought about re-unlocking your bootloader? It's been modified in the past which might have something to do with your update problem. If you unlock your bootloader you'll be able to install a custom recovery and then you can install whatever ROM you like. We have the stock Telstra Sense 5 Android 4.2.2 ROM in our development section. We also have a few other Sense 5 ROMs to choose from, ranging from stock to tweaked.
Sent from my Evita

The thing is that it hasnt been messed with.I got the phone from a HTC rep that i know ... he had it in his draw for over six months ...I just wanted the stock update but maybe rooting might be the easier way

It definitely has been messed with, phones that are s-off and have SuperCID don't come out of the factory like that. Somewhere along the way someone has done those alterations to the device.
There is just one problem I've realised, your phone has a SuperCID of 11111111 which has been blocked by htcdev. You're s-off though so you can actually change that as many times as you like using fastboot. If you want to unlock your phone you'll need to change it to 22222222 using the following fastboot command:
Code:
fastboot oem writecid 22222222
You can then check the new CID by using this command:
Code:
fastboot oem readcid
Once that's done you can go to htcdev and go through with the unlock bootloader process.
In order to do the above process you will need to install adb/fastboot and HTC drivers.
Sent from my Evita

No problem ... thanks for that ....I have rooted my one x before HTC_023 fairly basic but my mate swears that the phone came straight from HTC as a Tell us what you think before we send you more kind of thing .. Cheers for the info ...
Actually one more thing ... is it possible to do a RUU update with this to 4.2.2?

There is no RUU for 4.2.2, the only way is to run an earlier RUU and take OTA updates to get there. Since you can't get the OTA I guess that isn't an option though.
Sent from my Evita

grekojim said:
Sure am ... Good old city of churches" Adelaide" ..
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Within 30 minutes drive from me no doubt
Supercid and s-off from factory or not still means you are off the official path.
Things I might do:
fastboot oem writecid TELST001
Then try the OTA again
or
RUU back to 1.89.841.9 as a RUU exists for that, then ota forwards to 5.06.841.1
or
Unlock bootloader
Flash Turges 5.08 firmware zip and then take one of the Sense 5 ROMs. There is a stock Telstra ROM even.
PS nag the HTC rep for a more recent RUU, eg 2.40.841.4, 3.17.841.2, 3.17.841.9 or 5.06.841.1 and share with us
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Once that's done you can go to htcdev and go through with the unlock bootloader process.
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He has s-off does he need a token or even need to unlock at all?

I have often wondered the same thing, but I've been assuming that in order to flash TWRP recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
It's nice to see a few Aussies on here by the way, I'm in Melbourne myself.
Sent from my Evita

great ... trying the cid thing first ...

My phone from an att employee came s-off and with a locked boot loader as well. It just looks like that's how HTC and att do it.
Sent from my HTC One XL

Alright cid change didnt work ..now to find the 1.89.841.9 RUU

Click the link in my signature, from there you'll find a link to the HTC RUU thread.
Sent from my Evita

RUU links all changed and the index doesnt keep good track of the current RUU sites.
Try:
http://www.androidruu.com/?developer=Evita
http://www.androidruu.com/getdownlo...09.01_10.93a.32.20L_release_266699_signed.exe

Thank you heaps .....

Just in case .. i got the unlock code from htc deV But when my cid was 11111111 .....would that matter if i use that code now that my cis is telst001?