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Ordered a universal one with wall attachment and car attachment and when I connect the USB to microUSB cord the phone doesn't charge. Ordered another stand alone car charger and it, also, doesn't charge. If I attach the USB cord that came with the phone to the wall/car charger it charges fine. Both, specifically said for the "Nexus One". Is it an amp issue? Most microUSB charger in the mall cell phone kiosks won't charge it either. Is it a proprietary microUSB cord that I need or a matter of amps or something?
Why not buy from Monoprice.com?!
I ordered 8 USB cords (2/each of 4 different lengths), 2 Car Chargers, and 2 Wall chargers. All work perfectly fine, and I paid under $25. (Wife has a CLIQ, so we got plenty to work for both of us.)
So, I don't know what your issue is... Other than just not going to Monoprice
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Why not buy from Monoprice.com?!
I ordered 8 USB cords (2/each of 4 different lengths), 2 Car Chargers, and 2 Wall chargers. All work perfectly fine, and I paid under $25. (Wife has a CLIQ, so we got plenty to work for both of us.)
So, I don't know what your issue is... Other than just not going to Monoprice
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well I havent ordered from monoprice since customers got slammed with bogus charges... i guess i could give them another try though, but still... kinda weary
Why? I had over $1300 attempted to be spent at Newegg, and my CC company called me and stopped the charges. Got a new CC in the mail the following day. Some random amount at Apple as well. LOL. Fun times.
(Yes, it happened to me. I'm fairly confident it was from the same issue as others..) But, that doesn't stop me from using a company that makes good products, expecially when they just made such a big mistake. Odds are, it won't be happening again for a long while
Either way... Those are risks with online shopping. You just have to make sure that your method of purchase has fail-safes.
I have a CRAP load of mini USB chargers (all HTC stock) and didn't want to buy more. I bought a bunch of Motorola mini to micro adapters off Overstock.com for $2 a piece and couldn't be happier. I also bought the official Google cradle to avoid additional wear and tear on the microUSB port.
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I bought a car/home charger from eBay when I had my Motorola Cliq, and my home charger would keep going on/off charging. I later found out that it was the voltage issue, where the charger was giving a maximum of 5 amps and the Motorola Cliq needed 5.1V or something like that.
But most chargers I've bought don't power the Nexus One. What specific voltage or amps should I look for it to have? The two I bought off of eBay specifically said they were for the Nexus One. Neither worked. Sellers are putting any micro SD chargers up for sale assuming they will change the phone. They will not. What technical spec will tell me if it really will charge it?
Could someone post a link to a USB charger that absolutely works? I just bought another one from Best Buy that doesn't charge the Nexus. Made by Rocketfish and is suppose to be universal.
Thats really wierd. Every charger i've tried works fine.
You're charger should be outputting 5V and anywhere from 300mA upwards. There is no max mA limit because the phone will only draw what it needs.
This might sound patronising, and I really dont mean it to, but when you say doesnt charge how do you know?
Do you mean from totally flat it won't turn the phone on and start charging it, or do you mean when the phone is on the battery indicator doesnt show a charging, and the LED doesnt go orange/green?
Or do you mean it never charges to full?
When I plug it in it's as if nothing happens. No light, no thunderbolt symbol on the battery, no screen wake-up, nothing. Nada. Now, the HTC wall charger and usb charger work fine. But if a MicroUSB charger calls itself "universal" it does not mean it will charge the Nexus. The HTC HD2 charger my wife has works fine on the Nexus though.
Hmm strange.
The charge process works like this:
- Charger plugged in causes voltage change on +ve USB line - potential charger detected.
- Phone draws minimal current (50 to 100mA) and tries to negotiate USB power
-- If that suceeds it tries to increase power to 500mA if the USB port supports it. If yes charging starts at 500mA, if not charging starts at 100mA
- If USB negotiation fails, it checks if D+/D- are bridged.
-- If D+/D- are bridged, the phone draws as much current as it can/needs
-- If D+/D- are not bridged, the phone draws a max of 500mA
There's nothing special about the chargers unless they have been wired in some special way for a specific phone. Thats why I'm very surprised these chargers dont work.
I know that if I chop a USB extention cable and cut out D+/D-, my nexus charges at 500mA. I've tried this myself for a totally different purpose. Thats no different to ground and power being wired to a 5v source.
Odd, I have three car USB adaptors and two AC USB adaptors.. All charged the phone, although only the AC charger shipped with the Nexus would do a fast charge, and none of my car chargers would. I found one that was rated 1Ah and soldered the two middle pins, now it works as a fast charger too.
The Motorola P513 car charger (OEM designed for a Droid) gives out 950mA, is super cheap (~$3+shipping), and works great for a fast charge with the Nexus One.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Y8IH2Q/ref=oss_product
pakraider said:
The Motorola P513 car charger (OEM designed for a Droid) gives out 950mA, is super cheap (~$3+shipping), and works great for a fast charge with the Nexus One.
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Thank you sir. I've been trying to find a car charger that guarantees a fast charge.
Just ordered one from Play.com for £3.99 w/ free shipping.
Maybe now I can use GPS for more than an hour...
I dunno.
My motorola charger for my old bluetooth (H780?) works fine, as well as the original google charger. I also have a car charger for my old bluetooth as well.
My suggestion, is to only buy name brand chargers?
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Thank you sir. I've been trying to find a car charger that guarantees a fast charge.
Just ordered one from Play.com for £3.99 w/ free shipping.
Maybe now I can use GPS for more than an hour...
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This P513 has also been the best fast charger for me...
So I found out recently that a mini USB works on our micro USB device. (or is it the other way around) but any way I put a picture of the cable that has replaced the one that came with my Droid Eris.
That is the picture
I realized that the day i got it... 5 minutes after I activated it.
Mini is on the left. Micro is on the right. The Eris takes the mini.
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Mini is on the left. Micro is on the right. The Eris takes the mini.
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Correct. MicroUSB is for newer devices. My BB Tour had a Micro and man was it frustrating not having any charging sources compared to all the minis I have.
Yeah HTC likes to use their "proprietary" charger most likely to encourage people to buy chargers and cables only from them, but I have known since about 8 months before the Eris even came out because I was interested in getting the HTC Ozone, which uses the same connector as the Eris (luckily I worked for Verizon at the time and got early news that there were "some exciting new phones coming out that were worth waiting for. Glad I listened and ended up with my Eris instead of a crappy WinMo phone." The only difference between our connectors and a standard mini USB connector is the shape. The pin layout is the same, however some smartphones do use a higher voltage wall charger than some standard phones (ie: Blackberry Curve should not be charged with a Moto RAZR charger as the BB needs more current than the RAZR charger suppies). I am not sure if this would apply to the Eris or if it would actually cause damage to the BB in this case but I have been advised not to try it with BB phones in particular.
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Yeah HTC likes to use their "proprietary" charger most likely to encourage people to buy chargers and cables only from them, but I have known since about 8 months before the Eris even came out because I was interested in getting the HTC Ozone, which uses the same connector as the Eris (luckily I worked for Verizon at the time and got early news that there were "some exciting new phones coming out that were worth waiting for. Glad I listened and ended up with my Eris instead of a crappy WinMo phone." The only difference between our connectors and a standard mini USB connector is the shape. The pin layout is the same, however some smartphones do use a higher voltage wall charger than some standard phones (ie: Blackberry Curve should not be charged with a Moto RAZR charger as the BB needs more current than the RAZR charger suppies). I am not sure if this would apply to the Eris or if it would actually cause damage to the BB in this case but I have been advised not to try it with BB phones in particular.
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to be in compliance with the standards to be considered a "certified usb device" the max power of a usb is 5v, the amperage is the only thing that changes (from 500 to 900 mA)
all usb devices are compatible with any number of mA, but the amperage get's throttled for lower amperage devices, and for higher amperage it simply will be enough to power the device to stay on, but not charging.
any of the respectable companies (RIM, moto, HTC, etc) will be fully aware of this, and their chargers are specifically made to stay in compliance with this feature, so you can't possibly cause damage using the wrong charger for any of their devices. however! any of the cheaper brands, or brands that just aren't reputable dont always follow these rules can infact overcharge a device. worst case scenario? it overheats your device (which in most instances simply makes it shut down on it's own a lot and get really warm, which can cause problems, but nothing to severe if you notice in time to stop it) the difference between 500 and 900mA is negligible.
there are some devices that use an extra port or two to pull even more power (from 6 to 24 volts) but if you were to plug this into a device that doesnt have said extra ports, it wont have anything to connect to, and thus, still only charge at the standard 5v, 500-900mA.
(just some usb knowledge for fun, also remember to ALWAYS look at the label on the charger, it most of the time is LEGALLY REQUIRED to have the voltage/amperage on the package or the device itself; if it doesnt match, best bet is to not plug it in. remember not to sue me if I'm not right, I take no responsibility for your own actions.)
European regulations to reduce waste from thrown away cell phone accessories has mandated that phones sold in Europe have common connections. They've decided that all new devices should be MicroUSB, which is why everyone (except apple) moved to it. I don't know how this will affect the iPhone.
now almost all phone company use micro usb
like NOKIA HTC SAMSUNG SONYERICSSON and.......
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So I found out recently that a mini USB works on our micro USB device. (or is it the other way around) but any way I put a picture of the cable that has replaced the one that came with my Droid Eris.
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I knew this the day I got my phone. I have since damaged the HTC proprietary cord and have been using mini-usb ever since. No adverse effects other than the trackball scrolling left issue that has started to show. Related perhaps? I only get the issue when I'm plugged into the charger so...
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I knew this the day I got my phone. I have since damaged the HTC proprietary cord and have been using mini-usb ever since. No adverse effects other than the trackball scrolling left issue that has started to show. Related perhaps? I only get the issue when I'm plugged into the charger so...
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Sounds like the trackball issue that occurs because of the location of the trackball pins on the mainboard. The pins get loose from plugging and unplugging the phone and over time cause the trackball to randomly scroll. If you have the extended warranty or insurance, it might be time to use it.
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No adverse effects other than the trackball scrolling left issue that has started to show. Related perhaps? I only get the issue when I'm plugged into the charger so...
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It was the charger being plugged in that caused it for me, but it didn't matter whether it was the HTC cable or a regular miniUSB.
any ideas about resoldering to resolve the issue?
also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657468
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716681
So turns out I didn't ship this week... -_- Just what I've come to expect from the military lol. But on to my thread! Is it just me, or do any of you guys ever have issues with certain USB cables? My phone seems extremely picky about which ones work and whatnot. I've tried an LG one for a Sprint Optimus S, borrowed from my sister to charge and it wouldn't charge, tried an HTC from my girlfriend's Inspire, and I also tried an AT&T generic cable. The last two cables will charge, but no data will work, and I know there's nothing wrong with them because they all work with other people. So far I've only had luck with the Samsung official, and it seems as if mine has lost it's data abilities So on my quest to find a new one to purchase, I've wanted to avoid one that wouldn't work. If any of you guys have this problem with your phone being picky about cables, please let me know so I don't feel like I'm just crazy, lol.
Yes, i have had my share of problems with cables. I had one from my old Aria that i tried to use to charge one day and completely mest up my phone. My computer wouldn't recognize the phone, it wouldn't charge, etc. That was a headache. I just stick with the Samsung cables.
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honestly ive never had issues, i just got my infuse today but its charged from several differnt cables,
Car Charger
Blackberry Charger and Cable
HTC Cable in PC (and data worked)
Ive never had issues, it seems that I have about 7 or 8 micro usb cables/chargers and from my captivate to my brand new infuse ive never experienced an issue..
I've had some issues with the orignal charging cable actually wanting to charge my phone.
Also, when plugging the phone into the computer I can't use the stock cable to do any flashing and sometimes USB doesn't work. I end up using a charging cable from my Logitech K800 keyboard and it works like a charm.
Maybe look at the cables for the K800 from Logitech, I have used it to charge via wall adapter, computer USB port, and it works for flashing. It's also longer than hell and comes with a little Velcro hoop attached to it for easy storage / transportation.
I'm glad I'm not the only one with this issue, lol. I thought my phone was just crazy, haha.
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I've never had a problem with any cable (BlackBerry, HTC, various Samsung) on any of my Samsung devices. Used them on Captivate, Epic and Infuse with no problems. I almost wonder if the USB port's quality is as big a factor as the cables.
My phone will charge about 55% of the time. It is the most annoying and aggravating thing I have ever encountered. Of course I can't take it back because I dropped it and shattered the screen about 2 days before my case came in the mail
Some of the AT&T cables are charging-only and won't pass data (they get lots of bad reviews for this...)
General rule:
A straight-through cable will depend on the charger to determine how the device charges. If the charger shorts D+ and D- together on its end, the phone assumes AC. If the charger uses iPad/iPhone resistors to indicate a dumb charger, the Samsung will assume USB. Not sure what happens if the charger has nothing on D+/D-.
Some of the AT&T cables short D+ and D- together in the cable - meaning they'll always charge as an AC charger but won't work for data.
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Entropy512 said:
Some of the AT&T cables are charging-only and won't pass data (they get lots of bad reviews for this...)
General rule:
A straight-through cable will depend on the charger to determine how the device charges. If the charger shorts D+ and D- together on its end, the phone assumes AC. If the charger uses iPad/iPhone resistors to indicate a dumb charger, the Samsung will assume USB. Not sure what happens if the charger has nothing on D+/D-.
Some of the AT&T cables short D+ and D- together in the cable - meaning they'll always charge as an AC charger but won't work for data.
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If anyone is short on micro usb or in the market for one,
look for data cables instead of just a charge cable.
they're about a buck ea. on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...&_sticky=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_sop=15&_sc=1
I picked up about a half-dozen Blackberry branded micro USB cables off ebay for a buck a piece, shipped; they worked like a charm.
I mistakenly thought it wouldn't matter, and on a business trip to NY took my son's cable from his LG dumb-phone. I had all kinds of problems with it, so yes, I see that behavior too. It wouldn't charge unless I fully seated the cable and then removed it halfway out of the USB connector on the phone. Even then, I occasionally had problems with it.
Had the same issues. Good cables has associated "click" event when it inserted, bad ones are loose. If you look at USB connection from Samsung made cables it has significantly larges pins on bottom (probably 2x time bigger then other brands) and that's what makes a difference. This is also important in a car with a lot of vibration. I just bought specifically Samsung OEM branded microUSB cables from eBay and never had any issues after that.
FWIW... USB cables from Monoprice work just fine on my Infuse.
And I had issues charging with a cable from another Samsung phone.
My Infuse stopped being reconized by computer and at same time I realized that it wasn't charging also. It would charge on my computer but not wall or car charger. While munchin down on some wings I dropped it and it splashed into the bleu cheese dressing. The mic and charge port were crammed with cheese. I thought I cleaned it but no. I took a tooth cleaning pick (used to get food out of your teeth, has a green brush on one end) swabbed it in alcohol, the rubbing variety and gently scrubbed the contacts. Phone now charges on all chargers, computer still won't connect.
Had all sorts of issues with cords/ports. I'm convinced it has something to do with the dual sd cards. But who knows. Anyways now using a monster data cord and it works great! well as long as I only use it on one specific USB port
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Had all sorts of issues with cords/ports. I'm convinced it has something to do with the dual sd cards. But who knows. Anyways now using a monster data cord and it works great! well as long as I only use it on one specific USB port
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The SD cards have nothing to do with it.
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I used to have the Captivate and when I bought the Infuse 4G, I accidently sent the cable that came with the Infuse with the Captivate. It turned out the two cables were the exact same model but somehow my Infuse will only allow me to charge with the Captivate cable and not data.
That is why I have resorted to cloud syncing. It is the future!
Hi all!
My HTC Sensation, stock, will ONLY charge from the HTC USB cable I have. I have tried several other micro USB cables, none of them will charge this phone.
Which seems totaly bogus to me.
ANYONE got a thought as to why only one mUSB cable will charge this one, and others won't?
Thanks!
Dunno... I charge and usb connect with stock, Moto MB501, and MyTouch4G cables. All of them work just fine!
As we speak I'm using an older Blackberry Charger, but that wasn't your question...
It could be that the cables you're using are for dedicated data transfer. The HTC mUSB cable supplies both data and power, but there are plenty of "cheaper" cords which do one or the other. Do you have older mUSB wall chargers that don't connect to the computer (which is what I'm assuming you're doing)? Try one of those out and see if it charges. Sometimes, generic cables have issues with contact points, and that's where your issue might lie. Also, check the USB-A end (the bigger one) and see how many contacts it has. That often determines the function of the cord. Example 2 contact points instead of 4 = charge only.
I do know that back in the day, Motorola recessed some of their pins (or altogether removed one) to ensure that Motorola phones used Motorola chargers only. That would cause phones to act a little wonky when they were connected if it wasn't a Motorola. But this was back with mini usb, so it may not even be pertinent...
Voltage wise, however, it should be just fine. There is the universal 5V/700mA voltage, so it's highly unlikely that's the issue. My guess is the cables aren't very good, or your phone has suffered damage (doubtful)
So I plugged in a cheap Micro USB charger I bought into two Androind phones that I have and I think it may have blown them out. The phones would not function with the charger at all so I threw the charger out.
However, I then tried those phones with the other chargers I have and they seemingly stopped working with them as well! I knew these chargers worked because I have had them for months.
Is it possible that I could have messed up two phones just by plugging them into a shady Micro USB charger? These phones now refuse to charge whatsoever with any of the chargers I have.
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So I plugged in a cheap Micro USB charger I bought into two Androind phones that I have and I think it may have blown them out. The phones would not function with the charger at all so I threw the charger out.
However, I then tried those phones with the other chargers I have and they seemingly stopped working with them as well! I knew these chargers worked because I have had them for months.
Is it possible that I could have messed up two phones just by plugging them into a shady Micro USB charger? These phones now refuse to charge whatsoever with any of the chargers I have.
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maybe you have messed up with the charging port and now they need to be changed