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Stuck on hsdpa (not H+) Noob help.

Ok I've rooted my phone via one click method. I have the rcmix hd 3.4 rotate Rom with leeroids 2.2.4 kernel. So far I love it except ever since I changed from factory default Rom I have no H+ or what I'm under the impression of it being 4G. Instead I'm stuck just a regular H with data arrows underneath. Any ideas for a noob?
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aper3caper said:
Don't quote me here, but I'm pretty sure the afr001 and afr002 ROMs don't have an H+ icon since they are the European Desire HD ROMs. So you may be getting 4G HSPA+, but it doesn't have an icon for it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11505323&postcount=2
I'd bet that is what is happening.

That ROM may only show an H. I know with the one AR ROM i was using it would actually switch between "E", "3G" and "H+" depending on what i was using.

Thanx I think this is very possibly as it seems I have moderately fast connection when off WiFi. Is there possibly an app or a reference to see if the signal strength or speed of connection equates to that of 4G?
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live2drill said:
Thanx I think this is very possibly as it seems I have moderately fast connection when off WiFi. Is there possibly an app or a reference to see if the signal strength or speed of connection equates to that of 4G?
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Speed Test app

Just run a speed test with the app and you'll know right away what's going on.

Where do you live?
The stock AT&T setup shows an H+ icon even when in hsdpa... to let customers think they are getting 4g. Your rom is probably correct in showing you an H for hsdpa, because AT&T only has 4g service in like 6 cities nation wide. So unless you live in one of those cities you're not getting 4g anyway.

wyllie666 said:
The stock AT&T setup shows an H+ icon even when in hsdpa... to let customers think they are getting 4g.
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Wrong! The phone is using the H+ frequency, now if the backhauling has been done yet is the question.
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jbizz said:
Wrong! The phone is using the H+ frequency, now if the backhauling has been done yet is the question.
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There is no "H+" Frequency, 2G, 3G, HSPA+, they all use either 850 or 1900. He's right, they have enabled the "+" to show up all the time, even if you aren't getting an HSPA+ connection. It's very deceiving and AT&T is in some hot water right now over their false advertising, google it to see.

No 3g?

Hey guys I was noticing my G2x only ever says 4g or 2g, never 3g. Why is that? It would definitely be nice to switch from 3g to 4g instead of to 2g.
Am I missing something about how t-mobile's 4g is an expanded 3g?
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So they can call it 4g
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I've been wondering this since day one, someone let us know!
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Im guessing the 4g icon is just that, an icon. I dont have 4g in Lakeland yet, but everywhere I had 3g, the 4g icon is on there. and places I had edge, it says 2g. Just my $0.02

smitty24 said:
Im guessing the 4g icon is just that, an icon. I dont have 4g in Lakeland yet, but everywhere I had 3g, the 4g icon is on there. and places I had edge, it says 2g. Just my $0.02
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Oh ok. Well whatever, it's fast enough
EDIT: Ok not really we have only 3g here too, since last year-ish. I remember having my G1 and being like YES! FINALLY
DrowsyMalice said:
I've been wondering this since day one, someone let us know!
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YES Please
mr.orange303 said:
So they can call it 4g
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hahah

prince.siraj said:
Oh ok. Well whatever, it's fast enough
YES Please
hahah
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it is as he stated above... tmobile just "dropped" the 3G icon (or LG did it)
so if your area is only 3G at the moment like mine is it will display 4G but that is not accurate.... im calling tmobile about this and will ask more... plus i wanna know when my area will be getting 4G (prolly never)

I just came from Verizon. U have to laugh when I see 4g on my phone. Much slower than my Verizon's 3g. Phone is awesome though. Worth the move.
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Has anyone tried going to Setting > Wireless and Networks > Mobile Networks and changing the network mode to try and get a 3G symbol to show up? I'd try it myself but I get no signal in the house I'm in at the moment (Wi-Fi calling FTW!).

I forced my network to used WCDMA and my icon says 4g. But I checked in About Phone Status and it says I'm on hspa not hspa+. So it appears 4g means maybe 3 or 4g.
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For the life of me I can't get this phone to connect to hspa. My vibrant right next to me can but all I get is umts on the g2x. Hate having a phone that is "4g" but slower than my "3g" phone. I've reset it and tried everything I can think of.
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[REQUEST] 4G icon to replace CM7 "H" Icon

I'd like to request a 4G icon to replace the H icon in CM7. I've seen it for the Mytouch 4G but the theme won't flash.
Any help on this would be greatly appriciated.

Why? it's not 4g anyways.it's "enhanced 3g". if you want 4g, switch carriers.
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snotf said:
Why? it's not 4g anyways.it's "enhanced 3g". if you want 4g, switch carriers.
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No carrier has true 4G. Hspa+ is working just as good as wimax, no better, and lte hasn't proven to be any faster.
All carriers are lying about 4G.
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LOL the op just wants the damn icon not to be told what the speeds are and aren't.
To the op : I'm not sure completely how to do it but I think u can just download a rom open up the framework and swap the icons
I think
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I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure if you make it so it uses 4G instead of H it'll display 4G when you are connected to 3G. It's just the way CM7 works since they are HSPA and HSPA+. My theme has separate 3g, H and 4G icons, but the phone always uses H no matter if I'm connected to 3G or HSPA+ (At least I can't remember ever seeing a 3G icon). But if you want to, the png files are in the SystemUI.apk under /res/drawable-hdpi/, and you can rename and drag & drop the png files no problem. No resigning or anything required since it's a system app.

rich2thad said:
LOL the op just wants the damn icon not to be told what the speeds are and aren't.
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Lol seriously
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c19932 said:
Lol seriously
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LOL people are so negative in here sometimes
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Yea 4G and 3G are the same on Tmobile. That's why on stock you go from 2G to 4G. We don't even have 4G in my area even though it says its connected to 4G.
Kinda silly if you ask me but for this to work, you would basically replace the "H" icon with a "4G" icon.

Anyone happen to have the images handy? or do I need to go digging??

zimphishmonger said:
Anyone happen to have the images handy? or do I need to go digging??
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It will be in every rom just pull it out the system.apk from the framework
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[email protected] said:
I'd like to request a 4G icon to replace the H icon in CM7. I've seen it for the Mytouch 4G but the theme won't flash.
Any help on this would be greatly appriciated.
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May I suggest going here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=990829
Its the Ultimate Online Kitchen and VERY simple to use!!! You can get your icon here

Not sure on the name of the H icon on Cyanogenmod, but here's the system 4G files.

i will make it for cm7 rc1 so i will have ready in a few hours

C0dy said:
Not sure on the name of the H icon on Cyanogenmod, but here's the system 4G files.
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theres some more icons to change to to fully get it

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15181850#post15181850
ok icons here in form of flashable zip

can i change on eaglesblood
okay so i have eaglesblood 2.7 (based off of cyanogen mod) and i have the 4g sign. i want to change it to the H so when i apply themes it doesnt mess up the status bar. i tried using the OUTkitchen and flashed it. still has the white and green 4g icon. i have used ninja morph and changed the icons myself and still they end up as the 4g. i want to know if there is anyway i can change it, or make cyanogen think im running h or 3g. because the h icon is in the system framework and in the system UI.apk
running a g2x with eaglesblood 2.7

capang9555 said:
okay so i have eaglesblood 2.7 ...
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Might want to look in a more recent thread. The png you want is located in the SystemUI.apk We talked about changing it to the 4g icon in this thread, so you can just reverse the process.

+1 wew
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Btw. Magic card? C'mon bro... I want nothing to do with that. Lol
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Hey, back in my day these were the poop. Well at least until I started high school..
TarHeelTrigger said:
Btw. Magic card? C'mon bro... I want nothing to do with that. Lol
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Does anyone else lose 4g a lot?

I've tried WCDMA Preferred and GSM Auto (PRL) but I am constantly losing 4G switching back and forth in areas I have never had a problem.

Download the app called 'Network' in the Android market and set it to WCDMA only.

That isn't a solution but why wouldn't I just set it in the testing mode? Why download another app?

I lose 4g often too....and I go down to 2g....what happened to 3g? My old prepaid Cricket phone had a consistent 3g signal all over Tucson, while the 4g is really fast, it isn't reliable, and almost (almost) makes me wanna go back on cricket.

this radio is garbage.
my g2 was piss poor with 4g and this one is even worse.
I can watch it sit on the table and go from full bars of 4g to 2 bars of 2g/edge and STAY there.

sorry for the uninformed question, but is this something that can be fixed in a new rom, or mod?

I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Mind sharing?

It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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_atlien_ said:
It's not the radio. It's more likely the 4G signal in your area. I am in Atlanta and I have full bar 4G almost everywhere I go. At home it will drop down to 2G but I have wifi there.
As for 3G, this is a 4G radio. We're you joking about the 3G expectations?
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Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.

hah2110 said:
Point #1 - You are incorrect. I am saturated with T-Mos "fake" 4G coverage and have never had a phone drop it like this one does.
Point #2 - What are you asking the other posted about 3G expectations. This phone doesn't have a 4G radio. T-Mo doesn't have 4G. They have 3G that they market as 4G.
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Everyone has "fake" 4G coverage. LTE isn't technically classified as "4G" either, the specification calls for rates of at least 100/mbps. T-Mobile currently has faster and more widespread pre-4G coverage than any other carrier, and the phone does have a pre-4G radio. The phone does support HSDPA at rates up to 21Mbps, and does is in fact have a pre-4G radio. And as far as my other comment not being a solution, have you tried it before bashing it? I've had plenty of luck with that solution personally and I figured it would be kind of me to share, but I suppose I stand corrected.

Undeadk9 said:
I added data tweaks to my roms. I don't have any issues.
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Yes. Thanks to your roms, I have signal in places I never had before (like the bathroom at work. I can now surf while doing my "business" and important "paper work" in my "office", ya know.?
while i poop.

What are data tweaks?

I have noticed like the iPhone 4 that if you touch that metal peice on the back around the camera the signal drops. I got a case that covers that up and that fixed all my 4g signal problems. My phone stays on 4g most of the time where I am. The T-Mobile network where I live works very well though.
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hah2110 said:
Mind sharing?
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Sure I will share, go to the MT4GS Android Development and try my Doubleshot v1.2.0, or try my Senseless v2.1.0. Both are stable.
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I added a flashable zip in the dev section to CURE this issue. Hit my thanks button.
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If you are on the tmobile network, you can't get 3g anymore if your phone is a 4g phone. It's either 4g or 2g.
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have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?

Climbguy said:
have all HSDPA towers been upgraded to HSDPA+?
Or does the phone just recognize all HSDPA as '4G'?
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It recognizes all HSDPA as '4G', I have full signal in certain areas with a '4G' icon but get speeds around 1Mbps and when I check the actual signal with third-party apps it is registered as HSDPA.

i think u guys got bad apples cause i always get 4g an my friend wit the same phone has 4g all the time

Are our captivated getting 4g speeds (not Lte)

So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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gregnetz18 said:
So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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No. The captivate won't ever be able to use 4g. The hspa network is pretty much the same as 3G.

Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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gregnetz18 said:
Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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No. They are different. Imagine that hspa+ is faster than 3G but not 4g so it's more like 3.5g. It is faster than regular 3G but your phone still doesn't have the hardware for the 4g network.
Read about the networks here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access

gregnetz18 said:
So I am on cm7 and it says h in the too corned and sometimes 3g. On stock it only says 3g. Does that mean on certain roms you get 4g speeds and on others you don't?
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capocaccia said:
No. The captivate won't ever be able to use 4g. The hspa network is pretty much the same as 3G.
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gregnetz18 said:
Technicaly the 4g speeds are that hspa thing I thought. Isn't Lte something different?
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AT&T is calling their 4G, 4G, but technically there is NOTHING running 4G. For AT&T, 3G is capable of HSDPA(Download). 4G is the addition of HSUPA(Upload).
For our Captivates, specifically custom ROM's. Captivate based ROM's do NOT have HSUPA. i9000 based ROM's DO have HSUPA.
To answer your question, CM7 is a i9000 ROM and is running "4G"
And yes, LTE is something completely different

thanks kang for not making me say all that.

Thanks to both of you for clearing things up haha. I really appreciate it.
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The AT&T roms don't make any distinction between HSDPA (which shows as "H" on CM7) and UMTS (which shows as "3G"). So on an AT&T ROM you will only see "3G". Both are 3G as far as AT&T is concerned.

The new "official" Gingerbread leaks for the Captivate all say H+ in the corner instead of 3G as well... But the speed is the same.

I think only KI1 shows that. The ones released after it show regular3G.

mrhaley30705 said:
I think only KI1 shows that. The ones released after it show regular3G.
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That's not true. The new leaks still say H+

I don't care for at&t's false advertising there fake 4g. On my HTC Inspire, the stock Rom will only say H+, E, and i think I've seen G. No 3g . Its say H+ regardless. Even If your on a 3g signal.
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studacris said:
That's not true. The new leaks still say H+
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Rule 51-Sometimes I am wrong (I said "I think").
Been wanting that H+ symbol just to mess with the iPhanatics.

Lol I just made an icon that says 10G just a simple image in systemUI.apk

It doesn't take much to freak out the IP crowd n