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What is the speed of the USB connection?

The Polaris sure seems like an amazing device. I have a HTC P3300 and I am very satisfied with it but now I plan to buy a HTC Touch Cruise to replace it.
I was just wondering what the speed of the USB connection is. Is it USB 1.1 or USB 2.0? Synching lots of movies and so on to a large memory card would be a lot faster if it could be done at USB 2.0 speed compared to the USB 1.1 speed that I can currently get with my HTC P3300.

http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_cruise.htm
usb2
though my money will be on putting the sdcard in a sdcard reader would be alot faster then using usb1or2

Rudegar said:
http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_htctouch_cruise.htm
usb2
though my money will be on putting the sdcard in a sdcard reader would be alot faster then using usb1or2
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Thanks, I should have thought about checking the HTC home page of course. Other pages I have looked at have been a bit unclear regarding this. You are probably correct that it is better to use an sdcard reader anyway. On the P3300 the card is placed in a really stupid place under the battery and the SIM card. It seems to be a lot better placed on the HTC Touch Cruise making it a lot easier to remove and insert the microSD card.

USB 2.0
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Hi,
in the HTC Cruise wiki is mentioned, that this device supports USB 2.0 full speed. So the theoretical data rate should be 12 Mbit/s.
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Memory Card Reader/USB storage?

Hi there, I'm thinking about picking up a Diamond when they come out in Canada in the next couple weeks. Was originally looking at an iPhone but in Canada that means a 3 year contract and there is no way I'm signing up for that. The one big sticking point for me on the Diamond is the 4GB memory and lack of expandable storage.
Now, the Diamond does have a USB port on the bottom. Yes I know it's not a standard USB, but there are a million adapters out there.
If I plug a standard USB memory card reader or USB drive into it, will the Diamond/Windows Mobile know what to do with it? Are there drivers available or built in? And assuming that Windows Mobile recognizes the device will music and video apps be able to play directly off the card?
Now, assuming all this works, what sort of battery life would I be looking at?
No, I'm not expecting to haul my media collection with me and most of the time the 4GB would be mroe than enough for day to day needs, but I do occasional travel and longer trips. It would be nice to take a couple 8 or 16 GB cards loaded with music and movies when I do.
Any tips you can give would be appreciated.

no, but you can use the Diamond as a USB drive

Kingston Class 10 Micro SDHC Yes or No

I am about ready to buy a 16 GB class 10 micro sdhc for my Nexus One. Any ideas if this is a good card. Will it be totally compatible? And will I be able to transfer at the advertised speed? Does anyone have one of these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139121&Tpk=SDC10/16GB

I think a class 6 is enough. Don't see a need for a class 10.

If HD recording ever gets adapted....or divx playback I'm sure the extra speed wouldn't hurt. The question is whether or not to nexus 1 will utilize it.

My class 6 micro sdhc card is only transferring at 2 MB/s through the data cable from phone to computer and vice versa. Either my card is taking a **** or something is wrong, it's definitely not 6 MB's.

So if I can pick up a class 10 micro sdhc and actually being able to copy music onto my sd card mounted in my phone at 10 MB/s I would be really pleased.

I just pulled the my micro sd card out of the phone and plugged it into a micro sdhc to usb adapter, and I transferred music onto the card through the adapter and it transferred at 6 MB/s no problem. So there is nothing wrong with my micro sd card. WTF Has it always been this way.
What I mean is: while the card is in the nexus and when you transfer music to the phone through the data cable, is the nexus only able to transfer at 2 MB/s? Through the Data Cable?

tommyarmour said:
I just pulled the my micro sd card out of the phone and plugged it into a micro sdhc to usb adapter, and I transferred music onto the card through the adapter and it transferred at 6 MB/s no problem. So there is nothing wrong with my micro sd card. WTF Has it always been this way.
What I mean is: while the card is in the nexus and when you transfer music to the phone through the data cable, is the nexus only able to transfer at 2 MB/s? Through the Data Cable?
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Yup... I've noticed this too. It was the same on my G1. The card is capable of 6mb/s but the phone can only do 2mb/s through the usb...

uansari1 said:
Yup... I've noticed this too. It was the same on my G1. The card is capable of 6mb/s but the phone can only do 2mb/s through the usb...
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That really is a bummer, I don't know why in the hell I haven't noticed this before. It really doesnt matter to me how fast my sdcard card is then. Because I never ever remove it from my phone. So a class 2 is pretty much all you need because that is the only speed the phone will ever transfer at.

tommyarmour said:
That really is a bummer, I don't know why in the hell I haven't noticed this before. It really doesnt matter to me how fast my sdcard card is then. Because I never ever remove it from my phone. So a class 2 is pretty much all you need because that is the only speed the phone will ever transfer at.
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Unless you're rooted and run Apps2SD... but yeah, I'm unrooted on my N1 and plan on staying that way and I don't understand it either. Maybe there's a way to speed it up with a software update?

i get a steady 5.6...

piggie916 said:
i get a steady 5.6...
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Let me get this right. You have your micro sdhc card in your phone. Then you plug the the usb data cable into your phone, then you mount the phone to your computer by the pull down menu on your phone, then you can transfer music to your sdcard at 5.6 MB/s? Are you sure about that? And you have to be able to transfer music off of your phone onto your computer at the same speed I assume.
The reason I am mentioning all this is I partition my sdcard to 3 partions fat32, ext3, and swap. So another words I had to transfer everything off of my sdcard, and transfer it back on after you created the partitions. And if you have 6 gigs of music this can take a very long time. Then I formatted my sdcard again for 1 partition and had to do everything again. At 2 MB/s that is a very long wait.
I guess I could of just pulled the sdcard from the phone and plugged it into my adapter and transferred at 6.0 MB/s. This sucks you would imagine the nexus could do this np.
It's amazing you can do it at 5.6 MB/s to your phone. Maybe you got a better version of the Nexus than I did?

Don't forget, there are two sides to the issue, the phone side and the computer side. Perhaps you could try another computer? I average 5.5MB/s from my Linux workstation.
Are you going through an old USB hub or direct to the computers ports?

rotohammer said:
Don't forget, there are two sides to the issue, the phone side and the computer side. Perhaps you could try another computer? I average 5.5MB/s from my Linux workstation.
Are you going through an old USB hub or direct to the computers ports?
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Direct to the computer ports, and I am running windows 7, maybe I should try my ubuntu pc.

The phone's USB interface might be the limiting factor; when the phone is communicating directly with the SD card, it may be able to use its full potential. This would matter when you're recording video or using Apps2SD. Meaning that class 6 cards aren't necessarily pointless.
Also note that class 6 means 6 MB/s write speed, not read speed (as has been kind of said above - just waned to make it clear) - if you're reading it at 6 MB/s, that doesn't necessarily mean it's working right.
I don't have one to test with, sadly.

What I wanna know is where are the 32Gb Micro SDHC cards??

I have a 16GB a-data micro SDHC transferring via usb at speeds between 2-3MB/s
when i put the card in a card reader instead of the phone, xfer speeds are between 5 and 8MB/s
I'll try copying files to SD via wifi and bluetooth. if either of those are faster than 2-3MB/s, then the usb may be the bottleneck.

Are you guys benchmarking , or just going by screen stats ?

dang i didn't know they even made class 10.... I bought a class 2 16gb when they first came out, it just died actually so i'm waiting for sandisk to replace it. I've considered a class 6 but i don't see the point with 32gb cards coming out soon.
I've seen pre orders for late april on the 32gb's. other then that you can get one now if you import it from asia.

I am just wondering exactly what speed the Nexus One is capable of transferring at? Cause I can see alot of people are having the same problem as I am having with higher class sd cards. I know for a fact my class 6 sd can transfer at 6 MB/s and it does when its not in my Nexus One, so it's either the Nexus or the Data Cable that is eating the other 4 MB/s, cause I am only cable of transferring at 2 MB/s and no more.
Now when I talk about transferring I am solely talking about transferring music or data off of my Nexus to my computer and vice versa. I want to think it's just my Data Cable. But I wish I had this answer, I will today for sure.

Now is there a low speed Data Cable, maybe that is what Google sent me a low speed one, and maybe this 1 penny high speed data cable might solve me some problems.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...11189&creative=373489&creativeASIN=B0018A6W94

[Q] Hard Drives Compatible With USB ?

Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY

well there is no usb 3.0 support so those are out unless you get a backwards compatible one. And you also have to check the power consumption i think it hase to be bellow 15volts but im not sure

As far as I know all USB 3.0 drives are backward compatible.

from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs

mrevankyle said:
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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What. There are 4 kinds of USB (not counting on the go, wireless and eventually others) : USB 1.0, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
Hi-Speed USB means just USB 2.0, Super Speed is USB 3.0 and the older ones are plain and simply USB.
The theorical top speeds are: 1.5mbps, 12mbps, 480mbps and finally 4000mbps
High speed was briefly and not standardized with USB 1.1 so some device makers had that nonsense on their hubs.
Maybe you misunderstood? Some drives don't like some hubs, but that's a power requirement... If the drive needs x volts and the hub can't offer them because it's already sharing the power with other devices and has no wall plug to get extra power, the drive will just spin up and down without ever starting. 3.5" drives always need their own power adapter, so those always work, 2.5" ones usually draw the power from the USB and as such might be a little hit and miss with hubs, however the Transformer powers them up quite well.
Western Digital makes awesome, reliable, fast and quiet drives, I do have an USB 2.0 My Passport... And several others in various devices
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shaneledford said:
Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.

Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.

AcIdC0R3 said:
I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

droidjens said:
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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Thanks everyone. So far It looks like this one is a pretty good choice. It has good reviews and if its confirmed working on the Transformer I might go ahead and grab it.

Hope it'll serve you well.
I just remembered that I had to re-format it to NTFS before the Transformer would recognize it. Just thought I'd let you know.

AlexTheStampede said:
So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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...but extremely dependable, very effective and lower power consuming than any of those Buffalo drives. I have a Buffalo NAS drive and they're good for that but as for using one for a portable drive I would not. If you're going to use a regular HDD I would at least go with a Seagate or Western Digital drive as they tend to be better drives and are far quieter than any other brand on the market today. Yeah it may be a little more expensive but it's worth it. At least it was for me that is.

i have a 350g western digital that ive had forever.

This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.

r_nt said:
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...

sonami said:
why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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Only one of the cards is micro; the other is full-sized. No switching necessary.

Probably an easy question but, External Hard Disks?

Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance

Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?

assuming you have the keyboard dock too, not only for the USB port but for the extra battery capacity too.
but my WD 750gb works just fine!
I'd suggest MXPlayer 'cause the stock apps suck at decoding divx and other random container formats.

MartyHulskemper said:
Should be doable, although much depends on the power consumption of the drive -- I haven't got a portable model on hand to test it for you. A power-hungry model could either drain the battery too fast to be practical, or it may just be plain impossible to power it from the tablet, causing it to just bork out on you.
Obvisouly, a powered model would cope just fine,but that's not very practical when travelling, isn't it? I have read reports of people using external hard drives on the TF700 before, so I guess it shouldn't pose too much of a problem, though.
Off-topic: where are you going?
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Cool thanks, just ordered a Toshiba Stor.e Alu 1TB (ebay special buy) which is bus powered, should both be here on the 2nd so will plug it into the dock to check.
I am heading down to Spain as I have an apartment there then going to see where the mood takes me, I have 3 months off work (well I say off work, taking the Infinity with an RDP program and my iPhone so I can tether the data) that way I can still work from where ever I am!
The infinity + dock seems the perfect device for me, can carry it easily, brilliant battery life and the full qwerty keyboard.

I plugged a 500GB bus powered USB drive into the dock USB port and it works great!

My 2TB Western Digital MyPassport works just fine. I did format it to get rid of the silly software, though. Don't really notice any powerdrain at all.

I've somewhat accomplished this before with a 2-usb hard drive. The main usb port for transferring I plugged into the infinity, and I plugged the port for power into a portable external battery. It was recognized as another SD card on my infinity. It worked flawlessly when transferring 800MB+ files.

tefal said:
Hi All
Finally been able to order a TF700 from Amazon in the UK, I'm off travelling around Europe at the end of next week and intend to take the 700 with me, my question is can I take my external 1TB drive with me and use it as storage (for films, music etc)
Thanks all in advance
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Yup. It works. Mine is WD 1TB, connected via USB of the dock.

I've tried plugging in a standard usb drive (8gb thumb drive) in the usb port before but I can't browse to it in the stock file browser,"external storage"just shows as empty. Do you use a special app for that?
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I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Diogenes5 said:
I use a Seagate 2.5" external. It transfers fine and is recognized but playing videos using either mxplayer or bsplayer is imperfect. There is a lot of stutter. My imperfect solution is to rotate out video files on my device.
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Not only is an external a great solution, and works perfectly with the dock. It also has a really nice transfer rate. I was getting over 20mb/ps transferring from my 128gb flash drive to the micro sd. I have yet to spring for a 128 sdxc for the dock, but it's on my list.

So far I tried:
- External usb 2.0 disks
- Wireless mouse
- Linksys usb to ethernet
- Usb sticks
The dock's usb port seems to accept anything: even ethernet that allows me to even use my Infinity in the basement of my house (only wired connections there)
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Thanks for all the input folks, shall experiment with the dock and hdd when they arrive next week! Quite excited, like a big kid lol

Wow good info in this thread. I never even thought to try my external hd with my infinity dock. Will save a ton of time during file transfers.

I was surprised no one else had asked the question really

tefal said:
I was surprised no one else had asked the question really
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I'm one of those people that traded in there TF201 for TF700... I know this was asked and answered early on in the TF201 threads, so I guess I just carried over from there and never bothered asking it again.

For those that care I also had success with a USB 3.0 External right away. It comes with a secondary USB to power cable but that has never actually needed to be used. The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ). So long story short USB 3.0 devices should also work but at 2.0 speeds.

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neo1738 said:
The USB 3.0 is actually an internal from my laptop in a USB 3.0 case (Put a SSD in lappy ).
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I did the same thing with my laptop, but shortly there after, I came to realize that I wasn't using it at all in complete favor of my TF201/700.... Now I've got a lappy with a pretty 120 ssd, and not being used. Coincidentally, I have more space than that in my tablet now...

right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?

tefal said:
right so that we have established that external USB hdd's work, what about external dvd drives and other external devices?
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I can test it tomorrow, but I would imagine the storage part of it would work. The issues you would run into is not being able to write to it, not being able to play a regular dvd movie as it would have to be mp4 formatted, and other minor issues that require software support.
We already know gamepads, keyboards, mice, flash drives, sd card readers, and other such work..