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How fast is the USB transfer rate?

Hi all,
I am about to switch from Prophet to Polaris. One very annoying problem of the Prophet is the extremely slow USB transfer rate (I guess it supports USB 1.1 only) - I have to transfer large stuff to the memory card directly.
How does the Polaris perform in this respect?

Polaris work on usb 2.0.
Bye

If you are still interested (last weekend I had to transfer few files):
Tested with a 1GB Sandisk (was in package)
~0,5MB/s USB (Vista 64-Bit, 333MB moviefile transferred in 10:47min)
~100kb/s Bluetooth (Macbook OsX 10.4, 3MB moviefile)
so keep your cardreader
(Maybe the Sandisk isn't the fastest, but I believe that the phone restricts the transferrate. So USB 2.0 is just a marketing trick)

Straputsky said:
If you are still interested (last weekend I had to transfer few files):
Tested with a 1GB Sandisk (was in package)
~0,5MB/s USB (Vista 64-Bit, 333MB moviefile transferred in 10:47min)
~100kb/s Bluetooth (Macbook OsX 10.4, 3MB moviefile)
so keep your cardreader
(Maybe the Sandisk isn't the fastest, but I believe that the phone restricts the transferrate. So USB 2.0 is just a marketing trick)
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Damn, too bad So this means you cannot practically use your device as a USB stick with tools like CardExport...

ingenious said:
Damn, too bad So this means you cannot practically use your device as a USB stick with tools like CardExport...
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If you buy a MicroSD card from Sandisk you get a USB cardreader as well.
This is the fastest method to transfer large files from a PC to your memory card.

---Alex--- said:
If you buy a MicroSD card from Sandisk you get a USB cardreader as well...
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That's exactly what I did an hour ago Still, it would have been much easier if I could transfer the data directly through the device...

Memory Card Reader/USB storage?

Hi there, I'm thinking about picking up a Diamond when they come out in Canada in the next couple weeks. Was originally looking at an iPhone but in Canada that means a 3 year contract and there is no way I'm signing up for that. The one big sticking point for me on the Diamond is the 4GB memory and lack of expandable storage.
Now, the Diamond does have a USB port on the bottom. Yes I know it's not a standard USB, but there are a million adapters out there.
If I plug a standard USB memory card reader or USB drive into it, will the Diamond/Windows Mobile know what to do with it? Are there drivers available or built in? And assuming that Windows Mobile recognizes the device will music and video apps be able to play directly off the card?
Now, assuming all this works, what sort of battery life would I be looking at?
No, I'm not expecting to haul my media collection with me and most of the time the 4GB would be mroe than enough for day to day needs, but I do occasional travel and longer trips. It would be nice to take a couple 8 or 16 GB cards loaded with music and movies when I do.
Any tips you can give would be appreciated.

no, but you can use the Diamond as a USB drive

[Q] Transformer storage related questions

Originally Posted by Matchstick View Post
I currenly have a Class 6 (I think) Sandisk 8GB micro-SDHC card in it that I was using in my HTC Desire so micro-SDHC cards should definitely work.
I have heard reports that you can't use a card > 16Gb in the tablet but that's unconfirmed AFAIK.
I've also heard rumours that the keyboard's full-size SD card slot will take SDXC format cards which supports >32Gb capacity but again I've seen no confirmation of that.
I am snapping this up as soon as it's released here.
Questions on the storage:
1-As mentioned above, is this confirmed that the tablet microSD won't accept anything larger than 8GB?
2- If i get the dock and say I have a 16gb microsd card in the tablet and 32gb sd card in the dock, i should be able to access BOTH of these from the tablet (while docked) correct? So theoretically, I would have 16GB-built in flash on tablet + 16GB microsd card on tablet + 32GB SD card in dock = 64GB?
3-I just want to find out if by docking the tablet, the tablet storage just acts like another drive?
Thanks
KG

1- Even though I have the original manual here as a pdf, there's no info on what is the maximum size of SD card in the tablet slot.
2- I'm 99% sure that it's like that. Everything else would be stupid because many android applications store data on the (tablet) sd card.
3- yes, quite sure it does.
As a plus, you can use the USB 2.0 ports to add external hard drives.
Quote from manual:
USB Port (2.0)
The USB (Universal Serial Bus) is compatible with USB 2.0 or USB 1.1 devices such as keyboards, pointing devices, flash disk drive and hard disk drives.
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Hope I could help.
Regards,
qwer23

There's a way to use USB host without the dock? I don't want to buy the keyboard because i've already got a 13" notebook for mobility, i just need a tablet but the USB host is necessary for me.

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1- Even though I have the original manual here as a pdf, there's no info on what is the maximum size of SD card in the tablet slot.
2- I'm 99% sure that it's like that. Everything else would be stupid because many android applications store data on the (tablet) sd card.
3- yes, quite sure it does.
As a plus, you can use the USB 2.0 ports to add external hard drives.
Quote from manual:
Hope I could help.
Regards,
qwer23
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Thanks for the reply!
In that case, I can't wait to get this tablet what a great concept, best of both worlds. No need to buy a case, just shut the lid and you can carry it on travel without worrying too much just like a laptop, with all the various expandability options, no need to worry about HDD space either.
When combined with dock, it actually has 2 3.5mm sockets, which means I can use 1 device and myself and my wife can watch the same thing with 2 headphones and not worry about viewing angles thanks to the IPS screen...
So long as the 16GB tablet+dock comes in at around $500 or less, I am good...!
KG

Any answer on maximum capacity?
qwer23 said:
1- Even though I have the original manual here as a pdf, there's no info on what is the maximum size of SD card in the tablet slot.
2- I'm 99% sure that it's like that. Everything else would be stupid because many android applications store data on the (tablet) sd card.
3- yes, quite sure it does.
As a plus, you can use the USB 2.0 ports to add external hard drives.
Quote from manual:
Hope I could help.
Regards,
qwer23
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Did you by any chance find out what is the maximum capacity of the microSD card that can be used in the tablet?
I have a 16Gb class 10 installed and working perfect. I'm just thinking to purchase one of 64Gb and I'm not sure it will work.

There is no rated max capacity, I've see people who put 128GB cards in there (NTFS formatted) that work fine.

That's great news. I'll try to find a good deal on a 64Gb card and use it with my Transformer

Does anyone know if we can connect an external USB drive to the TF101 without the dock? Thanks.

junks2010 said:
Does anyone know if we can connect an external USB drive to the TF101 without the dock? Thanks.
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yes you can but you need to mod your charging cord or buy the asus proprietary port/usb dongle

Phone with USB 3.0 support?

Hi,
have you guys heard of a phone supporting usb 3.0? With my phone being capable of supporting up to 32GB MicroSD cards I found that transferring data is rather slow. I wish the Nexus Prime would support usb 3.0 but there is no information at all about this.
Probably I should go with a 3.0 card reader and use a MicroSD to SD card adapter to transfer my files...what a hassle...or what do you think?

I don't think microusb has been uptaded to 3.0 yet.
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Even if there was some kind of usb 3.0 support, I don't believe even microsd readers would be able to read at full usb 3.0 speeds. Hell, we still a lot of times don't even fully use usb 2.0.

True, but moving tens of gigabytes of music back and furth got me thinking about a faster solution...and then there are the roms for my playstation emulator...too slow with usb 2.0.

If I'm right, there should be this SD card reader that connects to your motherboard but I think that I'm wrong.
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You can buy a USB 3.0 capable card reader online (new so not able to post links yet) but they are quite pricey. I'm sure prices will drop when it becomes more wide-spread.
A quick Google search will point you in the right direction.

You might be waiting till Q4 of 2012 or maybe a lil earlier before you start seeing internal readers in phones that have usb 3.0....But Bluetooth 3.0 is in phones already, so perhaps companies will develop a reader with 3.0 tech sooner or later. Class 10 cards right now seem to be buggy and inconsistent, i've seen threads with people complaining about low speeds and corruption among other things with 10 class cards.

Sorry to bring back the old thread, I am thinking about the same thing.
Does anyone know if the next generation Android phone will have MicroUSB that support USB 3.0 speed?
Transferring a 1.8 movie from PC to the phone takes around 12 minutes, that's ridiculously long.

I wouldn't count on seeing those kinds of speeds anytime too soon.. microSD can't handle it and as other users have said, the class 10 cards are buggy more often than not or don't even reach usb 2.0 speeds.

[Q] Hard Drives Compatible With USB ?

Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY

well there is no usb 3.0 support so those are out unless you get a backwards compatible one. And you also have to check the power consumption i think it hase to be bellow 15volts but im not sure

As far as I know all USB 3.0 drives are backward compatible.

from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs

mrevankyle said:
from what i have read most are compatible with highspeed usb 2.0 but allot less are compatible with regular 2.0 hubs
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What. There are 4 kinds of USB (not counting on the go, wireless and eventually others) : USB 1.0, USB 1.1, USB 2.0 and USB 3.0
Hi-Speed USB means just USB 2.0, Super Speed is USB 3.0 and the older ones are plain and simply USB.
The theorical top speeds are: 1.5mbps, 12mbps, 480mbps and finally 4000mbps
High speed was briefly and not standardized with USB 1.1 so some device makers had that nonsense on their hubs.
Maybe you misunderstood? Some drives don't like some hubs, but that's a power requirement... If the drive needs x volts and the hub can't offer them because it's already sharing the power with other devices and has no wall plug to get extra power, the drive will just spin up and down without ever starting. 3.5" drives always need their own power adapter, so those always work, 2.5" ones usually draw the power from the USB and as such might be a little hit and miss with hubs, however the Transformer powers them up quite well.
Western Digital makes awesome, reliable, fast and quiet drives, I do have an USB 2.0 My Passport... And several others in various devices
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shaneledford said:
Does anyone know what the requirements/limits are for using a hard disk drive with the dock USB port ?
I am thinking about getting one of these for general purpose external storage, and it would be nice to get one that works with my transformer too.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hard-Driv...0000003142050&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=15222929
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Toshiba-C...ve-Black-with-White/15529168?findingMethod=rr
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Expan...1000102/dp/tech-data/B0056YNA2U/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-Portable-External/dp/B003B8PPEY
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I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.

Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.

AcIdC0R3 said:
I wouldn't recommend any of those drives. I would instead go with something like THIS HDD, THIS external enclosure and THIS retractable USB 2.0 A-Male to Mini 5-Pin. I have this setup and I also have one with an 120gb SSD. Incidentally, if you go with a SSD there is no motor that has to spin the platters because there's no moving parts so it uses less battery power than the first HDD I showed you. Also I know on the Vantec enclosure it says capable for up to 160gb drives but if you look at the details it says up to 750gb HDD's. I can confirm this because mine is a 750gb HDD.
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So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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droidjens said:
Got a Buffalostation that works well. If it's the best or not, I wouldn't know.
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Thanks everyone. So far It looks like this one is a pretty good choice. It has good reviews and if its confirmed working on the Transformer I might go ahead and grab it.

Hope it'll serve you well.
I just remembered that I had to re-format it to NTFS before the Transformer would recognize it. Just thought I'd let you know.

AlexTheStampede said:
So far that's the most expensive and less bang for the buck option XD
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...but extremely dependable, very effective and lower power consuming than any of those Buffalo drives. I have a Buffalo NAS drive and they're good for that but as for using one for a portable drive I would not. If you're going to use a regular HDD I would at least go with a Seagate or Western Digital drive as they tend to be better drives and are far quieter than any other brand on the market today. Yeah it may be a little more expensive but it's worth it. At least it was for me that is.

i have a 350g western digital that ive had forever.

This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.

r_nt said:
This drive arrived in the mail the other day. So far, so good; it was easily recognized by the TF. Not sure how fast it drains power as I haven't used it for too long yet, but it's silent. I also have an old 320GB Western Digital drive in an enclosure from five years ago that my TF sees, too. So, I have backups of backups. And that's not including the (2) 32gb cards I'll have once the second one shows up next week.
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why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...

sonami said:
why 2 32g micro sd cards? i find the one 32g in the tab and a 128g in the dock work just fine, and i have my 320g external if i need more. i dont think i coud stand switching out sd cards all the time...
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Only one of the cards is micro; the other is full-sized. No switching necessary.