I know there are probably at least a dozen threads on this new phone where I could ask for speculation but after browsing them I decided I'd make a thread specifically on the release date. As many of you may know, there was recently a report by the Electronic Times in Korea that the new Nexus Prime would be coming in October with ICS, debuting alongside the iPhone 5 and iOS 5. There has also recently been a Samsung roadmap with device releases/specs detailed for the rest of the year, according to the roadmap the only Android phone running ICS is set to release in early December. On top of that, there was reportedly a Nexus Prime spotted at Verizon HQ. Obviously this data conflicts but both the roadmap and the electronic times seem to me to be decent sources and if it was indeed spotted at Verizon HQ, obviously Verizon will get the Prime or a version of the prime at release. My questions are:
1) Do you guys really think they are going to release the Prime to complete with the iPhone as many people are speculating or do you think it will release according to the current Nexus schedule which is usually around December?
2) Do you think multiple carriers will get the Nexus Prime/version of the Prime? If so, what carriers and do you think they will all get it immediately?
Again, I know I could have posted this thread in multiple places so please forgive me =]
I think the Prime will be released near the iPhne 5 launch maybe a month after.
I expect to see it across all the American carriers. T-mo will get first dibs, then sprint and verizon and you'll have to import for AT&T unless they make it one of their LTE devices for the year
Could you shed some light on the reasoning behind your carrier timeline? Why T*Mobile first? Ect.
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I think the Prime will be released near the iPhne 5 launch maybe a month after.
I expect to see it across all the American carriers. T-mo will get first dibs, then sprint and verizon and you'll have to import for AT&T unless they make it one of their LTE devices for the year
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I agree with our mate!
I'm just curious why Tmobile would get it first, people seem to think that ICS is being released early to compete with the iPhone 5 so you're assuming that the iphone 5 is definitely going to tmobile and that google/samsung are expecting a lot of consumers to switch to tmobile when it is released?
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I'm just curious why Tmobile would get it first, people seem to think that ICS is being released early to compete with the iPhone 5 so you're assuming that the iphone 5 is definitely going to tmobile and that google/samsung are expecting a lot of consumers to switch to tmobile when it is released?
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Wait, i thought iphone 5 will go to at&t before t-mobile?
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The previous nexus phones have been GSM, right? So it makes sense that, at least initially, GSM carriers will get this one first - however I don't doubt other carriers will get it eventually, if not right away as well.
If they really want to compete with the iPhone, it MUST be on ATT and Verizon...or else...it, uh, can't compete lol.
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The previous nexus phones have been GSM, right? So it makes sense that, at least initially, GSM carriers will get this one first - however I don't doubt other carriers will get it eventually, if not right away as well.
If they really want to compete with the iPhone, it MUST be on ATT and Verizon...or else...it, uh, can't compete lol.
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not true that they ALL have been gsm, nexus s 4g on sprint is cmda, but was released after the gsm version on t-mobile.
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not true that they ALL have been gsm, nexus s 4g on sprint is cmda, but was released after the gsm version on t-mobile.
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Right, I guess what I meant was that the nexus one, two and s have each had a GSM version in some way...
i don't think verizon will pick it up, then again, i have been wrong before, i even said the dinc will get no gb, well...it did, but it got delayed right before they started pushing it out OTA
i am looking forward to see pics
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i don't think verizon will pick it up, then again, i have been wrong before, i even said the dinc will get no gb, well...it did, but it got delayed right before they started pushing it out OTA
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Well rumors say that it has been sighted at Verizon HQ and I'd expect Verizon to not go very long without a device with Ice Cream Sandwich and how many do you guys think will be coming in Q4? As of now it seems like only the Nexus Prime.
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Well rumors say that it has been sighted at Verizon HQ and I'd expect Verizon to not go very long without a device with Ice Cream Sandwich and how many do you guys think will be coming in Q4? As of now it seems like only the Nexus Prime.
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hopefully pics are uploaded and sprint gets it immediately afterwards, or same day
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I think what Samsung/Google are doing are trying to steal the thunder from Apple by putting the release nearer to the iPhone 5. I've also heard that on September 1st Samsung are holding a mobile conference for their new handset. I mean, I know this isn't a Samsung device, it's Google's so they would announce it, but this phone is going to knock the socks off everyphone out there at present according to the specs.
Any pics available yet?
Wow..Nexus 3
I am looking forward to see pic in the further
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I am looking forward to see pic in the further
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Hopefully soon
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Dark lord me said:
I think the Prime will be released near the iPhne 5 launch maybe a month after.
I expect to see it across all the American carriers. T-mo will get first dibs, then sprint and verizon and you'll have to import for AT&T unless they make it one of their LTE devices for the year
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Do you think us Telus folks will get it near launch or do you think we'll have to wait until early spring 2012, Like w/ the Nexus S.
Probably T-Mobile will grab it first !!! xD
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Hey guys, quick question. I'm not that familiar with ROM development, so I turn to you. I highly doubt that we can count on sammy to develop gingerbread for us, so do we think that it will even be possible to port it? Reading design gears thread, it seems that he can't quite get true AOSP running on the captivate because of how heavily samsung has modified the OS, does this mean that we will never see sweet 3.0? If that's the case, than it might be time to sell and buy a nexus one...
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this is a bump
Samsung-Firmwares posted this 8 hours ago:
"We got this information from our Samsung insiders. Samsung is also thinking about Android 3.0 for Galaxy S"
They also posted that Samsung is working on a new fw to be released in November...
COOL! Thanks so much for your reply, I would love to see an official release from samsung, although the november release is most likely froyo
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The messed up thing is they shouldn't be 'thinking' about it. It should be a definite. This is supposed to be the best hardware ever released on a phone so there's no reason why it shouldn't be available. If its not, although i love the galaxy s, i will never buy another Samsung product in my life
*rubs crystal ball*
I see our xmas gift as Android 2.2...
And Easter of next year, Samsung makes an announcement that 3.0 is cominig to the Galaxy S phones in the US..
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*rubs crystal ball*
I see our xmas gift as Android 2.2...
And Easter of next year, Samsung makes an announcement that 3.0 is cominig to the Galaxy S phones in the US..
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My crystal ball tells me that Samsung will release 3.0 with a new Galaxy S II phone and leave current Galaxy S onwers hang and dry.
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My crystal ball tells me that Samsung will release 3.0 with a new Galaxy S II phone and leave current Galaxy S onwers hang and dry.
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I'll wager they don't do this.I'll wager there will lots of happy Galaxy owners this time next year.We won't have the fastest phone..but we will have stable releases by Samsung..or the developers here will port it over anyways
Either way..it's going to be interesting to say the least for those of us that keep them
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The messed up thing is they shouldn't be 'thinking' about it. It should be a definite. This is supposed to be the best hardware ever released on a phone so there's no reason why it shouldn't be available. If its not, although i love the galaxy s, i will never buy another Samsung product in my life
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I feel the same way. It seems that Samsung and AT&T have adopted the "pay for it now, we will make it work for you later attitude".
What a load of crap.
I may be 18 and lacking the amount of knowledge and experience of those here at XDA older then me, but I know that's not how you treat your customers. That just isn't right.
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Stop buy anything from Samsung. Problem solved.
Its true, if this kind of hardware was an htc phone we'd be set until android 4.0 at least, also I bet anything that the evo gets 3.0 and thats an older phone than ours...i also wonder how far the nexus one will get updated...
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Its true, if this kind of hardware was an htc phone we'd be set until android 4.0 at least, also I bet anything that the evo gets 3.0 and thats an older phone than ours...i also wonder how far the nexus one will get updated...
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That wasn't my experience with the HTC Touch HD which at the time was supposed to be the best of the best in hardware.
So, AndroidAndMe.com posted a rumor about Samsung is going to have a new Google-Experience phone running on new hardware (Tegra 2 based) and Gingerbread ready by the end of 2010.
There goes your dream any Galaxy S phones getting Generbread ever.
Why would you say that? Samsung released the Galaxy S to 4 carriers, and are DIRECTLY competing with Apple with hardware aimed at the iPad and even the iPod Touch! Why anyone would think Samsung would just drop a top of the line smartphone on us and hang us out to dry is very stupid, and not very thought out.
Samsung, if possible, WILL "think" about Gingerbread. And by "think" they don't mean mull it over some peanuts and beer, they mean QA, hardware analysis, software development. They didn't come along to latch a customer on for a year, they came on to steal the market from Apple, and the latest Beta Froyo should let you all know they're doing alot more than thinking about it.
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Why would you say that?
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Because I have owned 5 Samsung Smartphones and couple DVD players as well as their top of line Blu Ray players. And they did exactly like I said to every single product I purchased.
Samsung's market strategy is to blanket market with latest and greatest hardware every 6 months or so. Everything they released so far always have something unfinished or not working. By the time they fix all the issues, the existing product is discontinued and a new generation of the product is already on the market. And the cycle continues.
Problem with phones are the 2 year contract. If samsung just leaves everyone who bought a galaxy s phone out to dry, so much for potential sales for our next phone.
Anyways, since the galaxy tab will (?) receive gingerbread, i'm hopefull it will be on our phones, through samsung or xda.
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Just go ask those samsung behold owners about how samsung treated those who purchased their first android phones.
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I feel the same way. It seems that Samsung and AT&T have adopted the "pay for it now, we will make it work for you later attitude".
What a load of crap.
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i dont understand what this has to so with att? i keep on seeing the blame put on att but the vibrant doesnt have anything that the captivate doesn't have 'cept for hsupa. if the vibrant had froyo and plans for ginger bread then yeah i could see att getting thrown in but att doesnt decide the fate of the whole galaxy s line. froyo is coming, gingerbread might be or might not be, i have a fealing that froyo will be realesed on the whole galaxy s usa line about the same time, and they may be holding back on the gsm phones untill it is ready for the cdma phones which will take longer as there are more differences in hardware for the epic and fascinate. i have an aquaintance at samsung who is a senior engineer for the cdma phones. he cant give me details but in general he said they are working around the clock on the froyo update and there shouldn't be an unusually long wait. for what ever that's worth. i dont know about gingerbread but i can only hope.
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i have an aquaintance at samsung who is a senior engineer for the cdma phones. he cant give me details but in general he said they are working around the clock on the froyo update and there shouldn't be an unusually long wait. for what ever that's worth. i dont know about gingerbread but i can only hope.
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So he can tell you about Froyo but not about plans or no plans for Gingerbread? What about what they're improving in the Froyo build that's taking it so long?
After the long, dreary task of fooling with AT&T, Samsung and (5) warranty replacements, I am no longer a Captivate or AT&T customer.
I walked over to VZW and picked up a Droid X on 2.2.1 and I must say I love it! Gonna slide on over to the X forums and see what ROM's are cooking. I appreciate all your help guys and loved Axura more than anything!
ROCK ON!
If only the iPhone was available with someone other than AT&T, then I'd jump ship too. But, alas that just isn't the case, so I'm stuck with AT&T for the foreseeable future.
Does AT&T pro-rate the ETF like Sprint does? I'm looking to get out myself. I don't see myself sticking with AT&T until October 2012
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Does AT&T pro-rate the ETF like Sprint does? I'm looking to get out myself. I don't see myself sticking with AT&T until October 2012
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Yeah they do, it's $5/month
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i love at&t,alot of ppl hate them for some reason. i get excellent signal and i get to keep my unused minutes. good luck with verizon
Once I'm out of the military ill also be out of at&t
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I wish it would have worked out because I hate going through all the change, but man....................I am so much happier and already feel a weight lifted by not having to deal with it anymore. I will never own another Samsung phone as long as I live unless it is free.
If the Droid X had a Super AMOLED screen and was on AT&T I'd jump ship too.
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If the Droid X had a Super AMOLED screen and was on AT&T I'd jump ship too.
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Huh? You lost me on that one...
kegobeer said:
Huh? You lost me on that one...
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LOL those were the requirements for ME to jump ship.
That was the reason i left tmobile... The Vibrant; they pissed me off and after 3 replacements i left to AT&T and i regret it so bad... Att sucks and the iphone is even worst lol so Im back to android
If AT&T doesn't get any high-end Android phones before Verizon gets LTE Android phones, good-bye AT&T.
secretasianman said:
If AT&T doesn't get any high-end Android phones before Verizon gets LTE Android phones, good-bye AT&T.
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QQ MOAR PLOX??¿¿??¿¿
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secretasianman said:
If AT&T doesn't get any high-end Android phones before Verizon gets LTE Android phones, good-bye AT&T.
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The captivate isn't completely high end at alll. (Sarcasm)
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The captivate isn't completely high end at alll. (Sarcasm)
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OK... let me rephrase it to "any OTHER high end Android phones"
Yes the Captivate is very high end... unfortunately us early adopters have been screwed by Samsung (i.e. GPS and shutdown problems). I am convinced the GPS problem is hardware based after seeing a newer Captivate lock quickly while mine just sat there...
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OK... let me rephrase it to "any OTHER high end Android phones"
Yes the Captivate is very high end... unfortunately us early adopters have been screwed by Samsung (i.e. GPS and shutdown problems). I am convinced the GPS problem is hardware based after seeing a newer Captivate lock quickly while mine just sat there...
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The Motorola Olympus is rumored to come out to AT&T in January but...
I agree with you on the GPS, hardware problem.
I'm still holding out for an 850 Nexus S... like they did with the Nexus One.
You can also get a Desire Z from Bell Canada that would work fine. It's basically the G2 with Sense UI.
ldd2142 said:
Yeah they do, it's $5/month
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Damn, you guys are lucky. Rogers customer here, it's 20 a month for us, and we have three year contracts (that are more expensive per month, I should add).
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Damn, you guys are lucky. Rogers customer here, it's 20 a month for us, and we have three year contracts (that are more expensive per month, I should add).
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True but you Canadians have a better android phone lineup
C.C.W. said:
I wish it would have worked out because I hate going through all the change, but man....................I am so much happier and already feel a weight lifted by not having to deal with it anymore. I will never own another Samsung phone as long as I live unless it is free.
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Sound like you're going through a bad breakup.
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Its on Gingerbread and im sure it will get Ice Cream or whatever, will it get the one after that though? And what about even after that!
I just want a phone that can last me a long time (at least 2 years)
NS has everything I want and need, as long it has the latest updates im good, and I dont like to root and rom and stuff, I just want all stock stuff.
With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
xspyda said:
With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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Doubt it. They'd drop support for the Nexus One before NS.
the nexus series last longer than regular android phones. So you shouldn't be too Worried.
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Today's phones are like computers. It'll last as long as it does what you want it to do. Once you feel that your phone no longer can do what you want it to do, then thats when it has become personally obsolete and time to replace. Generally I would replace my phone every year, because it seems a new phone would release with a new feature that I would want to make my everyday communication needs much more efficient.
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It should last a very long time and get every update Google throws at it
I mean there's only so much u can add to a phone dual core better camera better screen.....
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Today's phones are like computers. It'll last as long as it does what you want it to do. Once you feel that your phone no longer can do what you want it to do, then thats when it has become personally obsolete and time to replace. Generally I would replace my phone every year, because it seems a new phone would release with a new feature that I would want to make my everyday communication needs much more efficient.
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totally agreed, I find myself struggling with the iOS/Droid battle, but i usually try to stick with a phone for at least a quarter. i have problems
i think the nexus s will be supported, after all, the nexus one came out with eclair and got both froyo and gingerbread. im just trying to decide which phone to get, an epic or a nexus S 4g.
xspyda said:
With the speed technology moves two years is probably about right for the life of a new phone. It will probably be dropped by Google long before it's discarded by the devs though.
My question would be whether the hardware will last the two years.
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
JD
JupiterDroid said:
What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
JD
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Lol. Go check out the atrix dev section.
The phone will last a long time I bet!
How ever, 3G access will die within a year.
I can deal with Edge, but other people can't. I don't know what I'm going to do, I hate AT&T and hate CDMA.
Zardos66 said:
The phone will last a long time I bet!
How ever, 3G access will die within a year.
I can deal with Edge, but other people can't. I don't know what I'm going to do, I hate AT&T and hate CDMA.
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Can you please elaborate?
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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huh? I'm talking about the custom roms etc ... am I missing something?
Probably quite a while.
I would assume the Ice Cream update would be the biggest leap so far, especially if its going to bring Honeycomb features to phones. (ie hardware acceleration, holograpic UI etc.)
And the Nexus One/S would probably the only phones to get the update for a while.
You should be worried when they stop support for the Nexus One first.
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Can you please elaborate?
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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Oh man! You scared me for a second! I thought ATT was going to get rid of 3G and only go 4G or something! ATT has always been good to me so I cant wait to get my ATT NS!
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The ATT buyout of T-Mobile. They are planning to use T-Mobile's 1700 3g spectrum for their own purposes. Making all 3g T-Mobile phones stuck on Edge.
I'm too stubbern to buy another Nexus S with ATT bands if I decide to stay. I'll suffer with edge.
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thats a minimum of a year away, IF the FCC even allows it. I would doubt they would do that to t-mobile users..........
Not to mention it would be a material breach of contract and allow millions out of a contract. Wouldn't be a very smart move IMO.
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thats a minimum of a year away, IF the FCC even allows it. I would doubt they would do that to t-mobile users..........
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and canadian towers.. i believe not 100% sure but i remember AllGamer saying something about this?
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What Dev's? lol
We have NO dev community yet
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Hmm I've noticed that the Dev section isn't as booming as I thought it would be considering this is a Nexus phone. I'd assume that that's because the phone was only released on T-Mobile (and some other places in UK) until very recently?
Will the dev section pick up once the AT&T, Sprint and the Canadian carriers pick it up, or did people just decide to skip over the Nexus S for some reason? I'll assume it's the former.
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I'd assume that that's because the phone was only released on T-Mobile (and some other places in UK) until very recently?
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AFAIK, it's been available in uk since it's original December launch.
So I'm coming from the T-Mobile G2x and wondering what good phone I should get? Something fast, has ROMS, etc. Do you know of a phone getting released for T-Mobile? Should I wait till a new phones gets released? Let me know I can be patient. :good:
From what I've seen only the One S and SGSII are worth it atm.. T-Mobile usually releases a lot of new handsets during Q3
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From what I've seen only the One S and SGSII are worth it atm.. T-Mobile usually releases a lot of new handsets during Q3
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I wish good phones like the Attrix HD or the Razor Maxx from Motorola was on T-Mobile because I would really buy those phones. And wow Q3, that's supposedly when the ICS comes out for the G2x.
I have the amaze awesome phone if you like sense and stock otherwise don't get it. I'm wanting to upgrade but my recommendation is to wait.
1. T-Mobile aws bands are being upgraded to lte.
2. T-Mobile is refarming their 1900 band for hspa+ meaning you can bring almost any phone you want. Domestic and international. And the iPhone as well.
1. Is to be deployed by 2013 maybe complete 2014.
2. Is to be deployed by end of this year maybe complete 2nd quarter 2013
So you can either get something temporary or wait it out
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I have the amaze awesome phone if you like sense and stock otherwise don't get it. I'm wanting to upgrade but my recommendation is to wait.
1. T-Mobile aws bands are being upgraded to lte.
2. T-Mobile is refarming their 1900 band for hspa+ meaning you can bring almost any phone you want. Domestic and international. And the iPhone as well.
1. Is to be deployed by 2013 maybe complete 2014.
2. Is to be deployed by end of this year maybe complete 2nd quarter 2013
So you can either get something temporary or wait it out
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Oh wow! I knew they were upgrading their bands but I didn't know about the 1900 band for HSPA+ so you can bring "almost" any phone I want. Thats awesome!! But my memory is not so good on remembering these stuff but is Q2 is March?
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Oh wow! I knew they were upgrading their bands but I didn't know about the 1900 band for HSPA+ so you can bring "almost" any phone I want. Thats awesome!! But my memory is not so good on remembering these stuff but is Q2 is March?
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Yeah around there that could be start of 2nd quarter or could be the end of it who knows
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richie390 said:
I wish good phones like the Attrix HD or the Razor Maxx from Motorola was on T-Mobile because I would really buy those phones. And wow Q3, that's supposedly when the ICS comes out for the G2x.
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Considering that you want to Rom and mod Motorola is the last company you want any part of. Grab up a Galaxy SII or a Nexus and be glad that you can get such goodness. I'd recommend that you look at the Sony Xperia P as well.
GS3 is current top of the line. I personally don't like it that much and think it's worth waiting. No idea what's next for T Mob but the next Nexus is always an option.
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GS3 is current top of the line. I personally don't like it that much and think it's worth waiting. No idea what's next for T Mob but the next Nexus is always an option.
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Yeah next nexus or the g3 as well. Plus I hear the gs3 is having ppl lose their imei
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HTC One S is the best phone you'll be able to get on Tmobile.
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Considering that you want to Rom and mod Motorola is the last company you want any part of. Grab up a Galaxy SII or a Nexus and be glad that you can get such goodness. I'd recommend that you look at the Sony Xperia P as well.
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Whats wrong with ROMing with Motorola?
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HTC One S is the best phone you'll be able to get on Tmobile.
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Yeah I heard S2, OneS, and Nexus are good phones. But after what fcpelayo said I might just get a phone around September to October.
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Whats wrong with ROMing with Motorola?
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The fact that Moto and VZ find new ways to screw with us after every single update. Trust me, you do not want a new Motorola if flashing Roms is your thing. The Droid 2 and X are the last ones seeing heavy development. Check the available Roms for the Razr and then look at older Droids and newer HTCs and other phones on VZ. Heck, I think the S3 might have more Roms than the RAZR already.
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SG3, Note, Galaxy Nexus (get from play store for $350 (until the injunction sets in again), sign up with $30/month 100min 5gb t-mobile prepaid, save $1000 over two years, win).
Next Nexus (with which you can implement the pre-paid plan) and next Note (which with you might not be able to) will also be coming out within a few months.
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The fact that Moto and VZ find new ways to screw with us after every single update. Trust me, you do not want a new Motorola if flashing Roms is your thing. The Droid 2 and X are the last ones seeing heavy development. Check the available Roms for the Razr and then look at older Droids and newer HTCs and other phones on VZ. Heck, I think the S3 might have more Roms than the RAZR already.
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Ahh sounds like LG. But new phones always gets the development these days.
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SG3, Note, Galaxy Nexus (get from play store for $350 (until the injunction sets in again), sign up with $30/month 100min 5gb t-mobile prepaid, save $1000 over two years, win).
Next Nexus (with which you can implement the pre-paid plan) and next Note (which with you might not be able to) will also be coming out within a few months.
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Well the plans Im not worried about but I'll look into it more. Now I'm hearing so much about the next nexus, is it good? Wow phone decisions is hard lol
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Ahh sounds like LG. But new phones always gets the development these days.
Well the plans Im not worried about but I'll look into it more. Now I'm hearing so much about the next nexus, is it good? Wow phone decisions is hard lol
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We know nothing about the next Nexus as of now. Only thing we've heard is that there may be multiple Nexus phones from different manufacturers. That's a may. And yep, phone decisions are tough. Once you accept that no matter what device you get it will be outdated within 4-6 months, you learn to not take it too seriously.
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We know nothing about the next Nexus as of now. Only thing we've heard is that there may be multiple Nexus phones from different manufacturers. That's a may. And yep, phone decisions are tough. Once you accept that no matter what device you get it will be outdated within 4-6 months, you learn to not take it too seriously.
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Thats true, and I accept it. But can I ask you guys do you guys prefer the 3 button (Back - Menu - Search)[I think] phones or the 4 button (Menu - Home - Back - Search)?
Because for some reason these nexus and new phones seem to come with the 3 button, and Im not a fan of it.
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Thats true, and I accept it. But can I ask you guys do you guys prefer the 3 button (Back - Menu - Search)[I think] phones or the 4 button (Menu - Home - Back - Search)?
Because for some reason these nexus and new phones seem to come with the 3 button, and Im not a fan of it.
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Personally, the new button arrangements don't make much sense to me. I prefer what my Sensation has: Home, menu, back, search (and in that order, too; I have never understood placing menu before home, it's the damn home button it should be first). I don't get the arrangement that phones like the One X have: back, home, recent apps. The only button I don't use on my Sensation is search, so I think the proper 3-button arrangement should be : home, menu, back. A recent apps button is pointless because I find that long-pressing home in order to view recent apps (like on my Sensation) works perfectly. Removing the menu button also makes no sense because it was a useful button.
The removal of menu was effectively based on Google's push to move away from it, which I find dumb. But it ultimately isn't that big a deal and even though I don't like the new button arrangements I wouldn't let that deter me from new phones.
New note is using a quad core exynos lte support as well.
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Personally, the new button arrangements don't make much sense to me. I prefer what my Sensation has: Home, menu, back, search (and in that order, too; I have never understood placing menu before home, it's the damn home button it should be first).
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I use the menu button a while heck of a lot more than I do the home key. Menu gives you options everywhere, including inside apps ; home exits to home or brings up recent apps. The menu key is probably more utilized for most users.
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One thing I want to point out here: the play store edition of the Galaxy Nexus will work on T-Mobile 4G, and you'll get a bring-your-own-phone discount. And, it's development is perhaps the best possible on any android device
Not as much power as the GS3, and a bit smaller screen, but better software and a bit higher PPI.
I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I know HTC has said 500 times or more "ICS is on its way"
but its like 6+ months later than they said
do you think we will see ICS for our T-Bolts?
ive read a million articles, and cant find a recent-ish one
thanks a ton everyone!
and by the way can I have some opinions about the DNA or Galaxy Note 2....one of those bad boys are my next upgrade and to me they are pretty equal, but opinions would be welcome and helpful
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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I'm doubting an official release of ICS for the Thunderbolt. I'm hoping for HTC to release more sources so that we can just build it ourselves.
And as far as those two phones go, get the DNA. Or wait until February and get the HTC M7.
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the only downfall with the dna in my opinion is that HTC makes it
now im not a htc hater, in fact they are the company that make me jump on the android ship, and ive loved them until I had the thunderbolt, rezound and incredible 4g
with the lack of updates from HTC im affraid to get the DNA, the best comparison is the droid razr and rezound; the razr has 4.1 ready to roll out in early Q1 2013 (there was an "accidental" ota update a few weeks back that gave a few hundred uses android 4.1, and motorola confirmed android 4.1 in early Q1) where the HTC rezound may get 4.1 but it will prolly be around june- and I honestly think thats on the early side.
but If HTC shows better upgrades ide jump over there to the DNA right now
Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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Well if it makes you feel any better. The DNA already has sources out for it and it had them released the first couple of weeks of its release. It is very unlikely that a phone with the power that the dna has won't get updates. The problem the thunderbolt has had the whole time is dual core phones were right around the corner when it was made and HTC blew it off for more powerful hardware.
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These are my thoughts exactly.
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Oh and on another note. Verizon is partially to blame for the lack of support and ics on this device. They keep stonewalling the update because I think they know we still have unlimited and they want us off of it. If they give us the update then it is unlikely we will upgrade anytime soon. You also can't forget that this phone was the first from Verizon that has the svdo capability which the source to that has been kept under lock and key for quite some time now. I think that Verizon is protecting that info because they may resurrect it later on. This and the rezound are the only two phones that are able to talk and surf even on 3g. The others that are able to do this use volte (voice over lte) which only works with 4g.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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As much as I hate using my tbolt everyday....I will be holding on to the tbolt until the next nexus phone is released for Verizon. I've had an update available for a while and would gladly go get a S3 but the tbolt experience has pushed me to the point of...nexus or nothing from here on out.
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Probably going to be waiting awhile... There is a reason you don't see the nexus4 on Verizon
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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I don't know why everyone insists on blaming HTC for lack of updates on the Thunderbolt.
It's not entirely in their hands, or I believe we would have had it long ago.
The biggest issue is actually the network itself and is what's held up many updates for various devices, in my opinion.
If you think a Nexus on VZW will make things different, THINK AGAIN.(I urge you to read the link)
No matter how good or common, or baseline a device may seem to be, it will never make the carrier any better.
Verizon just plain old SUCKS at getting updates out.
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and it wont change. ever. they have moved away from customer support because they don't need to worry about happy customers if they already have them tied down for two years. and all those issues people have disappear when its time to upgrade and the consumer is happy again. then the cycle begins again
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thanks for the feedback everyone!
I know HTC isnt just to blame, BUT if you look at apple for instance (sorry for bringing them up) they can do what they want with their phones, and the carriers can pretty much shove it if they dont like it.
now my question is this, why can apple do what they want (ex no bloatware, and updates whenever they see fit) and android companies (HTC, LG, Samsung, And even Google with the case of a nexus) cant?
I left my Thunderbolt for a Galaxy Note II and I absolutely love it. It is the perfect size for me, and it still manages to sit comfortably in my pockets. The phone overall is excellent, but the two features that stand out are the stylus and the battery life.
I did not consider getting the DNA because it has an inferior screen (resolution aside,) and the battery life has been reported to be horrendous. I would say either the Note II or the GS3 are both very safe bets if you are looking to get a new phone.
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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I have two phones with unlimited data on my plan and if I took the share everything plan I would end paying $40 more a month and get less data than I actually need. Plus I still wouldn't get one of those phone subsidies you're talking about since I'm not eligible for upgrade for a while so I would definitely pay full retail for a phone before I lost unlimited. Also there are plenty of phones I could buy used that are excellent for half the price of retail or better.
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Never realized how slow my TB is until I got a Nexus 7.
Anyway, I'm waiting for either the Galaxy S4 or the next Google/Moto phone. Maybe the HTC M7, depending on when the others are available.
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I'm leaning towards the S4 myself. I'm done with HTC. Got a Tab 2 and I absolutely love Samsung
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SlyG07 said:
As soon as my upgrade was up, I left my HTC Thunderbolt for a Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've waiting way too long for HTC or Verizon to update this phone. I've read article after article and posted on HTC's Facebook pages and no response. They've lost me as a customer (HTC, not Verizon; I'm not giving up my unlimited data!).
I suggest the Samsung SIII or the Samsung GNII. I love my Note II and think the Thunderbolt is soooooo tiny after using it (just took a look at my Thunderbolt 5 minutes ago to see what I can do with it without any service on it).
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All vzw customers will eventually lose unlimited data. They won't let you keep it forever. Mark my words
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While I'm not ecstatic about HTC, I feel like Verizon is to blame here. Just look at how their policies are for everything else.
For all of you crowing about unlimited, you realize you are paying a monthly rate which includeds a phone subsidy right? Except, you get no phone. It's like "How about you pay full price for a phone, and then pay a higher rate as though you actually got a phone for free." Ooooo sign me up!
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but Verizon is getting lots of blood from you for the sake of unlimited. If you have the money, I guess its one thing, but OTOH, if money werent an issue, you wouldn't care about overage fees.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.
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Just like other guy stated I would be paying more if I went on share everything plan I don't use a crazy amount of data but 13-20 GB a month is where I sit. I am hoping Google releases a phone every year like the upcoming xphone so I can buy it off the play store, if they are in stock that is. But I will hold onto my unlimited data as long as I can cause their share everything plan is a joke, $40 for a smart phone access fee equals $29.99+$9.99 which is what we were already paying to buy the unlimited or 2gb or 4gb all they did was slap a two cent raise and hoped no one would notice. I noticed jerks!!!!
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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HTC deserves some blame too - it seems like they gave the update to Verizon around September, which is still ten or eleven months after ICS was released.
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That is true but how can we expect a company to push out an ota for a one year old device that probably 95% of the purchasers moved to a different device. We should all be happy that they got their crap together enough to give us this last one.
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