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Who’s Software is “World Clock”?
Hi All,
On 7/13 I posted in the Touchpro II forum informing that there are many cities in the GMT +5 time zones which display the wrong time in the World Clock function. This includes most of the countries which end with a “stan”.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724913
It received zero replies.
I’m OK with this. I am at peace with the fact that I am the only guy with a TP2 (Tilt 2) that cares what time it is in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. (Please feel free to make fun of this if you’d like – fire at will!) But the bottom line for me is that I need the clock to work, I paid a lot of money for the clock to work, and the software is obviously written wrong.
So now my question is this; who’s program is this? Did MS write it as part of the 6.5 OS, or did HTC add the feature. I need to know who to address my complaint to. If it’s MS, will it be screwed-up in WM7 as well?
Thanks,
Dave
Please cool down, nobody is here to make fun of you.
Moved to Q&A might get answers there.
Please try google if you haven't already.
madnish30.
I'm School of Cool Dude!
Dear Madnish30,
I am cool. I’m very cool. Or at least I was – until I received my most recent “help”. My open invitation for members to poke fun at me was both an acknowledgement that I am aware that not a lot of people care what time it is in Tashkent, as well as an attempt at self-deprecating humor. Although I am determined to get my issue resolved this was in no means a rant of any sort. Perhaps it was cultural and you missed my Yankee Sinicism. Regardless, if you perceived it other than how I meant it, then it was obviously a swing and a miss on my part and I will give some thought towards my writing style. I sincerely apologize for my failed attempt at humor.
Although suggesting that I go goggle myself sounded more like scolding (which I suppose is well within your authority as a moderator) than help, I took your suggestion and tried Google in an attempt to learn the proprietor of the World Clock software with no luck.
As for moving my post, I had posted in the software development forum for a couple of reasons: First and foremost, I figured that people who write software for these devices might be intimately familiar with the entity responsible for the World Clock. Secondly, I suspect there are those among us who might be able to instruct me on how to go into the registry and fix this myself. I am not an expert and tinkering with the registry without specific instruction is probably not a good idea for me, but perhaps I will make this the subject of a more specific post. There exist 265 different forums here. Again I apologize for picking the wrong one.
In the mean time, Leslie (who apparently has no job title) from HTC has weighed-in with her help. Here’s what she had to say:
Hello Dave, Thank you for contacting HTC. I understand your frustration. This may be a problem with the world clock which would need to be addressed in a rom update which would have to be requested by AT&T. By changing the system clock it changes all times, if you are spending extended times in these areas, you can turn off the HTC sence and use the base windows operating system. I hope that answered your questions, if you have any other issues or questions please feel free to contact us. HTC Technical Support www.htc.com www.pcddevices.com www.windowsmobile.com
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10USCW31ENA000708.
Sincerely,
Leslie
HTC
Obviously this is not a great deal of help to me, but if I read into Leslie’s response, it is a clue that the World Clock is probably an HTC product.
Madnish30, I openly challenge you Sir. That’s right; I am publicly calling you out. You profess to be here to help, and I need help. If you have a World Clock on your HTC device (any HTC device with any carrier) I need you (and anyone else who feels like helping out please, please, please!) to please do the following:
Go to your World Clock and add the following two cities; Muscat, Oman and Tashkent, Uzbekistan. These two cities should be 1 (one) hour apart with Tashkent being one hour later. If they are not, your World Clock is probably completely absent the GMT+5 time zone.
I would be sincerely grateful to anyone who would take the time to give this a shot and let me know the result. This would be beneficial in that I would gain the knowledge of how wide-spread this issue is. While we’re at it, perhaps we could, in light of the degree of research and amount of helpfulness of Leslie’s response, come up with a title for her. So far I’ve come up with:
Vice Minister of Propaganda
Deflection Department Associate
Assistant to the Elimination of Complaints Department
Assistant to the Regional Manager (Only funny to those who follow the U.S. sitcom “The Office”)
Moderator
With respect and gratitude,
Dave
XATAGuy said:
Dear Madnish30,
I am cool. I’m very cool. Or at least I was – until I received my most recent “help”. My open invitation for members to poke fun at me was both an acknowledgement that I am aware that not a lot of people care what time it is in Tashkent, as well as an attempt at self-deprecating humor. Although I am determined to get my issue resolved this was in no means a rant of any sort. Perhaps it was cultural and you missed my Yankee Sinicism. Regardless, if you perceived it other than how I meant it, then it was obviously a swing and a miss on my part and I will give some thought towards my writing style. I sincerely apologize for my failed attempt at humor.
Although suggesting that I go goggle myself sounded more like scolding (which I suppose is well within your authority as a moderator) than help, I took your suggestion and tried Google in an attempt to learn the proprietor of the World Clock software with no luck.
As for moving my post, I had posted in the software development forum for a couple of reasons: First and foremost, I figured that people who write software for these devices might be intimately familiar with the entity responsible for the World Clock. Secondly, I suspect there are those among us who might be able to instruct me on how to go into the registry and fix this myself. I am not an expert and tinkering with the registry without specific instruction is probably not a good idea for me, but perhaps I will make this the subject of a more specific post. There exist 265 different forums here. Again I apologize for picking the wrong one.
In the mean time, Leslie (who apparently has no job title) from HTC has weighed-in with her help. Here’s what she had to say:
Hello Dave, Thank you for contacting HTC. I understand your frustration. This may be a problem with the world clock which would need to be addressed in a rom update which would have to be requested by AT&T. By changing the system clock it changes all times, if you are spending extended times in these areas, you can turn off the HTC sence and use the base windows operating system. I hope that answered your questions, if you have any other issues or questions please feel free to contact us. HTC Technical Support www.htc.com www.pcddevices.com www.windowsmobile.com
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number 10USCW31ENA000708.
Sincerely,
Leslie
HTC
Obviously this is not a great deal of help to me, but if I read into Leslie’s response, it is a clue that the World Clock is probably an HTC product.
Madnish30, I openly challenge you Sir. That’s right; I am publicly calling you out. You profess to be here to help, and I need help. If you have a World Clock on your HTC device (any HTC device with any carrier) I need you (and anyone else who feels like helping out please, please, please!) to please do the following:
Go to your World Clock and add the following two cities; Muscat, Oman and Tashkent, Uzbekistan. These two cities should be 1 (one) hour apart with Tashkent being one hour later. If they are not, your World Clock is probably completely absent the GMT+5 time zone.
I would be sincerely grateful to anyone who would take the time to give this a shot and let me know the result. This would be beneficial in that I would gain the knowledge of how wide-spread this issue is. While we’re at it, perhaps we could, in light of the degree of research and amount of helpfulness of Leslie’s response, come up with a title for her. So far I’ve come up with:
Vice Minister of Propaganda
Deflection Department Associate
Assistant to the Elimination of Complaints Department
Assistant to the Regional Manager (Only funny to those who follow the U.S. sitcom “The Office”)
Moderator
With respect and gratitude,
Dave
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Dave,
Indeed the way your wrote did not convey your message very clearly and wasn't humorous to me at all. I suggest that you do not use your "yankee-cinisim" here at XDA; since people like me may not get it. Though i accept your apology. ( Sarcasm is wasted when used over text. ).
Regarding my suggestion to you, regarding the use of google ( wonder why you typed goggle ? ); i don't find it anything like a scolding? It was meant to help you solve your problem.
Now you had posted in the Windows D&H General forum ( not the software development forum ) and that the rules clearly state is meant for
The Development & Hacking Section is open for users to post there contributions (application/themes/software) to the XDA Community, and is open only for this reason. Any post which does not do this, makes searching for a specific application or theme impossible.
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not general question & answers; no matter how important the question may be.
Regarding you questioning my intentions of helping users here at XDA, i do not need to prove it to you and do not appreciate the comment you made.
We moderators are here to help run the Forum smoothly on voluntary initiatives, so if we did not intend to help other members why would we be here at all ?.
I suggest you do not question the intentions or functioning of a MOD.
Dave, seriously there is no need to use phrases like " i openly challenge you/ I am publicly calling you out. " it falls under the category of flaming here, and flaming is against the Rules.
Now, just to help you i can confirm that in my world clock the time differnce between Muscat, Oman & Tashkent, Uzbekistan is 2 Hours ( Tashkent being ahead ) not 1 hour as it should be ( i checked google for the real times ).
If you are talking about the clock which is found on Sense interface/ Titanium interface it is certainly developed/written by HTC ( with customizations done by carriers ), Micrsoft respectively. And you possibly can not find that information on the internet.
If you are talking about some 3rd party clock; nobody can really help you.
I again repeat myself cool-down, get rid of your frustration and then post again.
Consider this a warning.
madnish30.
Dear Madish30,
You have been extremely helpful and I sincerely appreciate your selfless effort on my behalf. This makes a huge difference as you have been the first to verify that this anomaly is not confined to my Tilt 2, my service carrier, or even any particular variant of the TouchPro2. I believe through forums like this I will soon learn the scope of this issue. For this reason, and with information gained here, I intend to again appeal to HTC for a simple fix. Other cities affected include:
Dushanbe, Tajikistan
Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan
Chardzhou, Turkmenistan
Islamabad & Karachi, Pakistan
There are probably many others, but these are the ones I checked in a search to get the correct time displayed on my device while in Tashkent. This is very annoying and difficult to work around as I’ve found that the time on the today screen does not automatically adjust in most of the countries I travel to outside of the U.S. even if the network is 3G. I usually have to select the city as the default manually from the world time menu. This is not a big deal, but when I selected Tashkent, I discovered that the time was wrong. No problem I thought, I’ll just select another city of similar longitude. I can’t find any cities in the database with a correct GMT+5 local time. I can change the time of any selected city, but this changes the displayed time of ALL cities.
Additionally, assuming that someone is going to have to write a fix for this issue anyhow, it is slightly annoying that the most important time zone that I use, GMT or Zulu Time, is not available as a selectable city. Many industries (to include the entirety of the aviation industry) use this as a base or reference time for everything. Call it Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Coordinated Universal Time (CUT), or Zulu – it makes no difference. Every other world time program, to include the clock in the bottom right of your Windows computer, contains this as a selectable option.
As you are probably aware, when one contacts customer service their fix for everything is always to reinstall the rom. This is a lot of work, and obviously will not affect this issue.
Sincere Thanks,
Dave
I wasn't sure where anything like this would go, so I made sure to put it in a forum as general as possible.
I'm a beginning web designer, but seeing as I spend most of my free time on this site, I'm growing more of an interest in learning to code for the mobile platform. If anybody is willing to help, all I'm asking for is a few tips from developers here on where to begin.
I learned some very basic java in college, but was wondering if there is a better path to go on. Do I start with BASIC? Do I continue and go towards more advanced Java and stick with only one programming language?
Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
-Considering I've done almost everything that I can with my rooted EVO, all of you were the people I'd rather hear from. I appreciate all of the hard work that you all have done!
You can develop full market apps using the language I use called basic4android.
Its easy to use but very powerful, produces a native android apk (so no interpreters) and has regular updates.
There are free user contributed libraries that make it even better and it has been used to produce everything from live wallpapers and anti theft apps to games and gps software so is a good option to consider.
I wrote my first app after messing about with it for about an hour and was amazed how easy it makes things. Google basic4android and you will find its homepage for more info. I can't remember the address as it's saved as a bookmark on my pc not phone.
EDIT: did a google search and its at http://www.basic4ppc.com/
Dave
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Hello all! I'm new to this wonderful forum and community so please spare me if I've done, or said anything stupid. :crying:
I am interesting in developing applications for Android. I do understand that developing apps for any device/software is a challenging task. Especially with Android (I think) since it's such a diverse amount of devices, screen resolutions, capabilities, etc. What I'm hoping to do is to build a somewhat simple app, targeted at business owners, or folks who sell merchandise, and so on. It's supposed to have tabs set up for certain folks/companies. I'll spare the details about the app I want to make. Bottom line is, I want to start off with that 'simple' app and move on to a game for my second app. I know that I won't be a huge hit or any of the sort. But before I begin to develop, I have some questions that I hope can be answered here.
Here are my questions, please be patient with me, and to all mods/admins, I'm sorry if I've violated any rules by posting this up. I couldn't find any decent answers that'll help me out.
1. What Operating System is considered to be "better" for developing Android apps, and why?
2. How do I go on testing my app, do I use my own phone, or are there any great emulators out there that can emulate/simulate a real phone very well?
3. Where would you recommend me, a complete noob, on developing? I know I can look this up on my own, so I don't mind if this question isn't answered. I just want to find some guides that actually explain why things were done, what it's supposed to teach and so on.
4. This question is the one that worries me the most, and I understand it might start some debate () so please, be respectful. :laugh: I'm not a legal US resident, citizen, or any of the sort. I'm currently seeing a lawyer to apply for Deferred Action. But I'm worried that it might be illegal for me to publish apps on the Google Play store. /: Does anybody know if it's it legal for a 16 year old, illegal immigrant (USA) to publish apps on the app store?
Sorry guys, I really want to know. >.< So... BUMP
Hello everyone,
I'm looking to make android app for this Ajax chat we have on a certain forum. The chat is MGC Chatbox Evo. Basically, I want to connect an app to the chat, like you do when you fire up a browser.
Now, my programming experience is very out of date, so I'm looking for some documentation (noob friendly if possible) on this. I've searched google all over the place, I found a couple of tips, but those aren't very understandable for someone at my level.
Here are the questions I'd like to cover:
1) In which language do I write this?
2) Using what compiler?
3) Where can I find documentation related to making something like this?
I'm a bit savvy, so if I find a way to do this in one programming language, I'll probably find a way to do it in another, but I can't. I've never made an android app before, but I'm very eager to learn, so all and any help is appreciated. Of course, if someone has time and desire, I'll gladly work with you on this and learn that way. Forum has 600,000 registered users, and you would be free to take all the credits for it.
Thank you for your time
Have a great day!
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Hello everyone,
Im very new to this site, just registered a few moments ago. im not a bot, or a troll, so please bare with me if this post is in the incorrect place within the forum, or if some of my questions seem ignorant.... because i am sure they will (haha).
My development background:
0 ... i have none. Lol. In fact, ive barely begun to learn even the basics of source coding. So again, please bare with me on any of my ignorance.
Why I chose XDA forums:
Dealing with various issues on my Android device, i have googled my problems, and often-times found myself here to find the answers. I believe this forum has some of the highest intelligence this genre has to offer. Easily understandable advice put in a way the ignorant like myself can understand, goes a long way to helping others, and i believe i have found that here.
My Current issue:
I am tired of being an employee. I am tired of waking up and going to work to make someone elses dreams come true. At the age of 32 i believe its past the time i make steps to create something I can pass down to my sons. I have also noticed that the world of business has become vastly technological. Apps are needed for everything. So.... i want to know how to make apps. From the very beginning of it all, to the final production stages, and everything in between.
Where do i start?
Can i make one completely from my Android?
Where can i find app blueprints?
Do i need app blueprints?
These are just some examples of questions I have running through my head. I want to be an Andriloid game developer, I believe i could make the next big thing like AngryBirds, but i do not have the mental know-how, on the technological aspect on all of this. If any of you can help me it would be greatly appreciated. I am also open to the idea of a partnership in creating my first app.
Thank you very much for your time everyone.
-M04RT3
Hi there, I'm a relatively recent beginner as well, having churned out only 1 app so far.
In terms of getting started from the ground up, I found the free online tutorial series from TheNewBoston pretty helpful. In particular, you'd want to look at the Java one and the Android Application Development one
Java
https://thenewboston.com/videos.php?cat=31
Android Development (may be using an outdated Android Studio by now, but overall still handy imo)
https://thenewboston.com/videos.php?cat=6
You need to do the Java one first, because you'll be writing Java code to make Android apps.
There are quite a bit of videos, especially for the Android one. You can pick and choose which you need based on the app you have in mind, like if you don't need voice recognition or drawing 3D objects, you can just skip over those.
Good luck!
a_w_li said:
Hi there, I'm a relatively recent beginner as well, having churned out only 1 app so far.
In terms of getting started from the ground up, I found the free online tutorial series from TheNewBoston pretty helpful. In particular, you'd want to look at the Java one and the Android Application Development one
Java
https://thenewboston.com/videos.php?cat=31
Android Development (may be using an outdated Android Studio by now, but overall still handy imo)
https://thenewboston.com/videos.php?cat=6
You need to do the Java one first, because you'll be writing Java code to make Android apps.
There are quite a bit of videos, especially for the Android one. You can pick and choose which you need based on the app you have in mind, like if you don't need voice recognition or drawing 3D objects, you can just skip over those.
Good luck!
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Brother youre a life saver. These tutorials are awesome for beginners like me. Funny its called "NewBoston" as thats where i live too lol. But again, thanks for this.
Everything starts with Ideation. All mobile app developers follow the design guidelines during the design phase. The best method would be to make your first app relatively simple and to focus on creating something. Next step would be deciding on the wireframe for the app. Choose the IDE (everything needed to develop your apps), programming language and set it. Since you are using Android Studio and Java, you should know the basics of Java. Create and acquire images, build the layout and write the code. Add more functionality specific to your app and do extra polishing by running your app on different devices. Finally, publish your app. Check this article on how to make android app development easy https://www.fingent.com/blog/how-to-make-android-app-development-easy .