unlock question - HTC Inspire 4G

so my friend is wanting to jump from at&t so here is my question. if he unlocks the phone will he be able to move to virgin mobile, to my knowledge the answer is no because virgin mobile does not use sim cards. but i would like so incite on this from people that know more then i do about these companies.

No
Sent from my Inspire 4G using XDA App

virgin mobile is CDMA so no .... you can use Straight talk, T-Mobile, AT&T prepaid but out of any if I wasnt using at&t i would use straight talk
unlimited talk text and web 45 bucks a month
http://www.straighttalk.com/ServicePlans
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thank you for the conformation.

SuicideMyk said:
virgin mobile is CDMA so no .... you can use Straight talk, T-Mobile, AT&T prepaid but out of any if I wasnt using at&t i would use straight talk
unlimited talk text and web 45 bucks a month
http://www.straighttalk.com/ServicePlans
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Hey suicide - so I have been thinking about going this route with my phone. It would save me about 100$ a month, but I haven't because I have had varying answers when looking for whether or not web is unlimited or whether it will work. Do you have any insight here to clarify on the unlimited web?
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100085&page=2
Still sounds nifty

always gotta read the fine print
7. STRAIGHT TALK UNLIMITED PLANS CANNOT BE USED FOR: (1) access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, or (2) any applications that tether your device to a laptop or personal computer other than for the use of Wireless Sync. I
for unlimited talk and text it's a good deal but their definition of "unlimited data" is useless
T-Mobile pre paid $50 unlimited plan
11. * Data Plans and Other Features. You will be charged for data usage on a pay per use basis unless you are required to maintain a data plan (“Data Plan”) as part of your Service, or as otherwise provided by your Rate Plan or prepaid data pass. Permissible and Prohibited Uses: Your Data Plan is intended for Web browsing, messaging, and similar activities on your Device and not on any other equipment. Unless explicitly permitted by your Data Plan, other uses, including for example, using your Device as a modem or tethering your Device to a personal computer or other hardware, are not permitted.
AT&T Go Phone $50 unlimited plan
**Smartphone users: You may use your smartphone on all GoPhone plans. A data package is required to use any data services on your device. Pay-per-use data is not available on smartphones.
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$5 for 10 MB
$15 for 100 MB
$25 for 500 MB
basically $75 bucks a month

Do you use this?
I am gonna do a little more research and see which would be better, ST or T-Mobile. I guess ST is atnt for pre-paid? If t mobiles allows data (web surfing) I definitely would be interested in that a little more. That thread I linked mentioned having to drop 200$ on a new Nokia. That hurts there.

dyliho said:
Do you use this?
I am gonna do a little more research and see which would be better, ST or T-Mobile. I guess ST is atnt for pre-paid? If t mobiles allows data (web surfing) I definitely would be interested in that a little more. That thread I linked mentioned having to drop 200$ on a new Nokia. That hurts there.
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no Im stuck in a AT&T contract, I pay about 90 bucks a month for unlimited talk/text and 250mb of data..... majority of my data I use is wifi thats why i went with the smaller data package
seems like out of the three if you want the data T-Mobile would be the way...
as far as dropping 200 bucks on a nokia I have no clue Im pretty sure you can find someone selling a sim card if that's the case

T-Mobile Sim Card Prepaid Kit
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Actually my talk with ATT wound up far better than I ever ever expected and they totally hooked me the heck up. So for now, I stay. Thanks though - it'll help some friends who have phones but can't get a contract.

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ATT Media net 10$/month family

So i've seen a few threads here saying that the new deal with media net unlimited package was 10 dollars a month now. Well i called today to get it and was told that not only was it for my fuze(i did the sim swap trick to make it seem we all had regular phones) but also the other two phones in my family, all three of us now have unlimited data for 10 dollars a month. This seems too good to be true. Did anyone else have a similar experience?
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So i've seen a few threads here saying that the new deal with media net unlimited package was 10 dollars a month now. Well i called today to get it and was told that not only was it for my fuze(i did the sim swap trick to make it seem we all had regular phones) but also the other two phones in my family, all three of us now have unlimited data for 10 dollars a month. This seems too good to be true. Did anyone else have a similar experience?
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So your saying the Rep said that this applied for your fuze or did it apply to your fuze because it had another sim card?
Are you saying your paying $10 a month for all 3 phones... or $10 a month PER phone ($30).
I think I might jump on this. I have a Fuze and my fiance has her old blackjack. She has unlimited messaging for $20 and I have MediaNet Bundle (Unlimited Data, 200 SMS, Unlimited AT&T Messaging) for $25.
So we spend about $45 a month.
If we could get unlimited Family Messaging for $30, then both unlimited data for $10... that would be $50.
I'd pay $5 more so my fiance can get online.
I assume this is only for Family Plans
I used to do that. I worked at radioshack though, and our rep for ATT told us that he used to be a manager at an ATT store and would add the non-pda data plan to peoples accounts, and some would come back later with giant bills because they were revised and billed per byte.
He said it didn't happen a lot, and a lot of times ATT would be full of mercy and not charge the full amount, but he did tell me it occured.
I say be careful because you would be breaking the terms and conditions and they would have every right to charge you 3 cents/KB
has anyone on this forum been caught?
from my understanding it was 10 dollars total for all three lines(as in a total of 10 a month, not 30). I specifically said to the rep, "no no i don't want the family plan i only want it on the one line" to which he replied that it was a family bundle that i qualified for since i had a family unlimited texting plan. I didn't mention my fuze so i don't know what will happen, perhaps this month will have some ridiculous charges but i'll play ignorance and try to fight them. So we shall see. My online account has not updated yet so i have no way of knowing 100% what is going on but i'm rather curious.
also it's only 1c/KB not 3 for their standard charges.
I've been using the MediaNet plan on my Samsung Blackjack, Samsung Epix, and HTC Fuze for 3+ years.
Their expensive internet plans are stupid. When I bought my Epix... the sales guy said, "Since the Epix is a newer faster phone... it won't work with the Media Net plan because the MediaNet plan doesn't send the data packets fast enough and so it won't work".
I'm a Network Engineer. What kind of crap is that?
I popped in my old sim and started checking my email.
Unlimited Data = Unlimited Data.
Every time I call CS and they get me started on that crap I give them an earful. Plus data plans are outrageous. Why would anyone want to pay for a Data plan which is the same, if not more, then the data plans they have in their homes.
SMS is nothing more then free money for them and people don't use that much data. Unlimited Data and Messaging should be MAX $20.
AT&T over-chargingn for data
I see someone else shares my irritation (exasperation) with AT&T (and the other carriers, since they all charge about the same).
I pay $30.00 a month for DSl (3mb down, 768 up). Why or why should I pay the same for speeds that are less than half that on AT&T's network just because its mobile?
Yes I can check my mail (almost) anywhere but.....thirty bucks is ludicrous, I cancelled my data plan on my Kaiser and my wifes Blackberry because it wasn't worth the service. We were paying over $60.00 a month for unlimited data on two phones. (Everyone kick me me becaause I deserve it).
Now you are telling me you are getting it on two phone on the "family plan" for $10.00 a month ?
WoW !
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I've been using the MediaNet plan on my Samsung Blackjack, Samsung Epix, and HTC Fuze for 3+ years.
Their expensive internet plans are stupid. When I bought my Epix... the sales guy said, "Since the Epix is a newer faster phone... it won't work with the Media Net plan because the MediaNet plan doesn't send the data packets fast enough and so it won't work".
I'm a Network Engineer. What kind of crap is that?
I popped in my old sim and started checking my email.
Unlimited Data = Unlimited Data.
Every time I call CS and they get me started on that crap I give them an earful. Plus data plans are outrageous. Why would anyone want to pay for a Data plan which is the same, if not more, then the data plans they have in their homes.
SMS is nothing more then free money for them and people don't use that much data. Unlimited Data and Messaging should be MAX $20.
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Let me clear this up, I might be new to this forum but I am very familiar with AT&T rates and plans. Lets just say I use this information almost daily.
THIS APPLIES FOR STANDARD MOBILE DEVICES (NOT PDA/BLACKBERRY/iPHONE)
For Individual Lines (AT&T Nation)
-Data Unlimited (formerly known as 'MediaNet Unlimited')
cost $15 per phone.
-Unlimited Messaging (SMS+MMS+IM)
cost $20 per phone.
-Messaging & Data Unlimited (Data+SMS+MMS+IM)
costs $30 (save $5 from getting the two seperately)
For Family Plans (AT&T Family Share)
-Data Unlimited
cost $10 per line in the family plan (instead of $15 for individuals)
-Family Messaging Unlimited
cost $30 (one price covers every line on the plan)
THE FOLLOWING IS FOR PDA/BLACKBERRIES
For Individual Lines (AT&T Nation)
-PDA Personal or Blackberry Basic
cost $30 per phone.
-Unlimited Messaging (SMS+MMS+IM)
cost $20 per phone.
-PDA/BBRY Messaging Bundle
costs $50
For Family Plans (AT&T Family Share)
-PDA Personal / Blackberry Data
cost $30 per line
-Family Messaging Unlimited
cost $30 (one price covers every line on the plan)
During the sign-up process, the IMEI number of your device will be registered to your account. If the system detects the IMEI of a device that falls under the PDA or BLACKBERRY category, the Data Plans populate itself only to 'PDA Personal $30' or 'BBRY BIS Personal $30'. If an IMEI of a regular phone was entered, it will populate the options for 'Data Unlimited' for $15
When you purchase your PDA device like a Blackjack II, if you somehow manage to have an IMEI of a normal phone be entered instead of the Blackjack II, you will be billed the rates according to whatever type of phone that was entered. (This will not work with Blackberries because BBRY needs the BIS data and the PIN number to be registered.)
Also what might be possible is; get your devices and plans normally, like a Fuze with a $30 PDA Data plan, a month later, call customer service and tell them that youre switching to a different device that you bought yourself, and give them the new IMEI (imei should be from a non pda/bbry device), and have them change the data plan prices accordingly. Voila, you saved $15 dollars per month per phone.
Oh and if some of you were wondering, the carriers data service is just data, meaning it wont know the difference between data from a Sony Ericsson W350 to an HTC Fuze, or a Touch Pro, or a Touch Diamond, or Xperia, or Nokia N96, or iPhone knock-offs, etc. you get my point.
villa_bryan said:
I used to do that. I worked at radioshack though, and our rep for ATT told us that he used to be a manager at an ATT store and would add the non-pda data plan to peoples accounts, and some would come back later with giant bills because they were revised and billed per byte.
He said it didn't happen a lot, and a lot of times ATT would be full of mercy and not charge the full amount, but he did tell me it occured.
I say be careful because you would be breaking the terms and conditions and they would have every right to charge you 3 cents/KB
has anyone on this forum been caught?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477071
cesar2010 said:
ok i had the media net unlimited ($15) with my kaiser for like 6months w/out a single problem or xtra charge. i used the upgrade option i had and ordered a fuze but to be used on another line in the fam plan, yesterday i used about 60mb with slingplayer.. today i got a text saying data disconnected due to high charges i called and they told me i didnt have a data plan and i was going to be charged about $1000 i added the $30 data plan and was wondering is there a way to fight the upcoming bill?
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meh?
i'm thankful someone noticed this. i just called and changed mine to Messaging & Data Unlimited for $30. Before had the two separate plans and was $35. Save $5! that's good in these tough economic times .
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For Family Plans (AT&T Family Share)
-Data Unlimited
cost $10 per line in the family plan (instead of $15 for individuals)
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not to sure about this..i have a family plan and i did this trick way back in the day with my 8525 (was $20 at the time for medianet and i had to do it again when the price dropped while using my tilt) and unless theve dropped the price recently for family plan data rates then this is incorrect and its still $15 (what i pay a month with a fam plan)
oh and has anyone ELSE besiodes the OP confirmed this $10 all lines plan?
pazookie said:
not to sure about this..i have a family plan and i did this trick way back in the day with my 8525 (was $20 at the time for medianet and i had to do it again when the price dropped while using my tilt) and unless theve dropped the price recently for family plan data rates then this is incorrect and its still $15 (what i pay a month with a fam plan)
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/services/services-list.jsp?catId=cat1470003&LOSGId=&catName=Messaging+%26+Data
First item on the page.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/services/services-list.jsp?catId=cat1470003&LOSGId=&catName=Messaging+%26+Data
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For me it says $15 a month for regular cell phones and $30 a month for pda's such as the fuze.
How many of you guys are doing the thing were you call up and add a regular phone as your phone and then select the $15 for data and then just switch your sim card into the fuze and still only pay $15 for data instead of $30? What would happen if att finds out?
Thanks.
techman28 said:
For me it says $15 a month for regular cell phones and $30 a month for pda's such as the fuze.
How many of you guys are doing the thing were you call up and add a regular phone as your phone and then select the $15 for data and then just switch your sim card into the fuze and still only pay $15 for data instead of $30? What would happen if att finds out?
Thanks.
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maybe has to do with area you live in?
i see this: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7439/shotwh4.png
notice first item, @ $30.
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maybe has to do with area you live in?
i see this: http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/7439/shotwh4.png
notice first item, @ $30.
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Yes, I see that too, but if you look closer at the fine print for those top two items, it says they are only available to regular cell phone ie not the fuze.
i've been using this on my 8125 for a few years now i have the media net unlimited with 200 text messages for 20 a month.
i just did this recently for my wife when i added her on to my family plan she wanted a blackjack so i had her get a dumb phone first with the unlimited messaging and the 1500 text messages for 30 a month before the 30 days were up with the dumb phone i had her return it and ordered her a refrub'd blackjack off with the discount through my job
the medianet and the messing plan stuck and i just switched her from the unlimited net and 1500 text to unlimited net and unlimited text for 30 a month
so when and if i upgrade to a fuze any new att phone with a newer htc
just like the network guy said above DATA is DATA
i checked around I didn't see anything online about the unlimited data for 10 bucks a month anybody been able to enable this?
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Yes, I see that too, but if you look closer at the fine print for those top two items, it says they are only available to regular cell phone ie not the fuze.
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which is why you do the trick mentioned earlier and all over this forum so you can get it.
Confirmed in Chicago area!!
The catch is (as someone already mentioned) you have to put ALL THE PHONES from your Family Plan on the $10/mo. Unlim MediaNet Data Plan...and NONE of them can be PDA or iPhones. I'm saving $45/mo !!!

What phones qualify for $10 T-Mobile Unlimited Web? or Carrier Alternatives?

I just got some crap from T-Mobile about how I cannot use a HD2 or a Nexus one with T-Mobile without upgrading my plan from the $9.99 unlimited to the $29.99 unlimited even though I bought the phone off contract. It's a T-Mobile branded US version so I'm wondering what kind of guidelines they have? The rep said that all smartphones have to be upgraded to $29.99 but I've been using my iPhone on the $6.99 T-Zones and just recently upgraded to $9.99 because T-Mobile "no longer offers it to iPhones", says the customer support. My sister runs the Nokia Neuron and I've tried it with a Touch Diamond and both iPhone 2G and 3G and those are smartphones right? I believe the Shadow and Dash use the same data plan?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out what kind of smartphone I can use? And how do they know what phone I'm using?
What alternatives do I have for a cheap unlimited data plan from a different carrier? MetroPCS and Boost seems awesome for offering a $50 unlimited voice, text, and web, but they're only CDMA.
it seems that if you are using a tmobile branded phone, then they'll tag you if you are not using the right data plan. for unbranded smartphones, they seem not to look too deeply into what kindof phone you are using, thus many people use their unbranded smartphone with the $10 data plan. the nuron is not considered a smartphone.
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it seems that if you are using a tmobile branded phone, then they'll tag you if you are not using the right data plan. for unbranded smartphones, they seem not to look too deeply into what kindof phone you are using, thus many people use their unbranded smartphone with the $10 data plan. the nuron is not considered a smartphone.
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No, that's not how it works at T-Mobile.
If you want to use your HD2 on the $10 web plan you must change your apn to internet2.voicestream.com
Also, there is a new company that recently came out (a la MetroPCS/Boost) called SIMple Mobile (http://www.mysimplemobile.com/), which is a no-contract, unlimited kind of deal but GSM. The poster above me is right though. If your internet is set up to go via web2go, they will charge you the $29.99.
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Also, there is a new company that recently came out (a la MetroPCS/Boost) called SIMple Mobile (http://www.mysimplemobile.com/), which is a no-contract, unlimited kind of deal but GSM. The poster above me is right though. If your internet is set up to go via web2go, they will charge you the $29.99.
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They are pretty cheap, but I believe that for $60 you can just go with T-Mobile and get 500 minutes, unlimited text, and unlimited data and be able to use any of the T-Mobile smartphones. Or, do as I did and signup for the $39.99 plan with Unlimited Texting + 500 minutes then for $10 add unlimited web separately for a total of $49.99/month. I'm using a Touch Pro2 with this plan without any problems.
With simple mobile can you use any unlocked GSM phone?
i neglected this thread for a while and i just found it. anyway, i did try internet2.voicestream.com but it was blocked (it just wouldnt connect to the internet, opera shows "page not found" type of thing). same thing with wap.voicestream.com. it wasn't running a stock rom either.
the folks at tmobile are full of it,I have an HD2 and have the 15.00 200meg data plan,they just promote the larger plan and you have to ask for something diff

data plan and premier

hello guys,
i am planning to order the captivate through the premier website
when i check out, i didn't have to add data plan to my account, but if i add the iphone, i have to add the data plan.
does this mean at&t will not add the data plan even after i activate my phone?
anyone ordered through premier and able to use it without at&t forcing a data plan into your account?
no, eventually you'll get a text saying they've added a data plan so you can avoid large charges.
their system got smart, if they have you imei, they know what model phone you have and they can dole things out accordingly
V DidDy 210 said:
no, eventually you'll get a text saying they've added a data plan so you can avoid large charges.
their system got smart, if they have you imei, they know what model phone you have and they can dole things out accordingly
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i switched from touch pro to pure last year in november( not upgrade, got it somewhere else), and i didn't get any text nor any data plan even though they recognize my phone in the system
It was just made mandatory sometime in November or December of 2009. I believe people that had smart phones before then are still allowed to stay on the pay per use(.02 per kb). Although when they upgrade their phone they will be forced into a data plan.
fsrkewd said:
hello guys,
i am planning to order the captivate through the premier website
when i check out, i didn't have to add data plan to my account, but if i add the iphone, i have to add the data plan.
does this mean at&t will not add the data plan even after i activate my phone?
anyone ordered through premier and able to use it without at&t forcing a data plan into your account?
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Did you order from Premier without data plan? I am in the same boat and would like to know about this as well. I am eligible for an upgrade in Sep and would like to get a Captivate (or any other Smartphone) to replace my Fuze (no data plan currently). Thanks.
As I said in the post before you, the data plan is added for you automatically. I went round and round with at&t when they added it to one of my lines(in december). I was even able to get the data plan turned off, just to be enabled again only an hour later. Moral of the story is if you want the phone you have to have data (with at&t atleast). Even if you have a phone that currently does not have data and you upgrade. The primary account holder will receive an email addressing this once a smart phone is detected.
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I think they can override it if they want to. I lost my SIM during an overseas travel and got a new one for the same old number last month from AT&T.
After I put that in my Fuze and activated it, I got a text saying an "appropriate" data plan has been added for this smartphone.
I didn't contact them, just waited to see what happens in the bill, it still came just for the voice. No data plan. So it might be possible if one can convince them. $15 plan is not a biggie but I work from home so even that would be a waste.
Does anyone know if you have the $30 data and text plan, will that be changed if I order through the premeir website? I tried to upgrade at a corporate store and was told since my phone of record was a Samsung Eternity, I did not have a smartphone plan and would therefore have to upgrade to the new data plans. I refused the upgrade. When I first got the Eternity, I had a $35 data plan. A couple of months before the change to the data plans, I changed the data plan to the $30 a month smartphone plan, saving $5 a month. Does anyone know how this would go? Thanks.
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Does anyone know if you have the $30 data and text plan, will that be changed if I order through the premeir website? I tried to upgrade at a corporate store and was told since my phone of record was a Samsung Eternity, I did not have a smartphone plan and would therefore have to upgrade to the new data plans. I refused the upgrade. When I first got the Eternity, I had a $35 data plan. A couple of months before the change to the data plans, I changed the data plan to the $30 a month smartphone plan, saving $5 a month. Does anyone know how this would go? Thanks.
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Your Eternity is not a smartphone. And smartphone data plan does not include any texting. $30/m is for data only. Texting is extra.
So, whatever your current plan is, it won't carry over to a smartphone. And since you don't have any unlimited smartphone data plan, you will only get the 2GB data plan if you buy a smartphone now.
i have the medianet unlimited data for $10 (with family txting), and i bought my captivate from ebay..is ATT gonna figure out that i need to change data plans?
SiL3nTKiLL said:
i have the medianet unlimited data for $10 (with family txting), and i bought my captivate from ebay..is ATT gonna figure out that i need to change data plans?
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Yes it is highly likely. I called AT&T a while back when I got my Nexus and told them I got a "new generic phone" and that I wanted Media Net. They asked me for the IMEI and said "Thats a Nexus One, thats not a generic phone!" and forced me to get the $30/mo plan. Basically they have the IMEI ranges for nearly every device out there and if its a smartphone they will charge you for the smartphone data package.
I would say yes, because it is a ATT branded phone. I had G1 and used their $10 data package without a problem. I did have a pantech matrix when I got the data package though, just didn't tell them about the G1.
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You guys are all asking the same exact question. No one, but AT&T knows.
I have had a Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 on my AT&T account with the $30 unlimited data/txt package from Nov 2008 - January 2010. I wasn't switched over at all. But this was an unbranded unlocked smartphone.
Then I had a AT&T branded Motorola Q9h smartphone on the same $30 plan from January until I got my Captivate on the 18th. I wasn't switched over at all while using the Q9h even though, the online account manager recognized by phone.
It's going to be hit or miss. Just use your phone and if you aren't caught, well congrats. If you are, just pay or switch carriers.
I put my old tilt on my wife's line and she used it for about 5 months without a data plan. AT&T says in their ToS they have the right to add a data plan to your line if they find you are using a smartphone without one, but they never added it to her account.
Most likely because she had 0 data usage. When I upgraded through At&T to the captivate I was forced to add it.
AT&T only recently started adding the data plans automatically for smartphones. The system can now detect and add the service to your plan without your approval or interaction. The data service CAN be removed and blocked from ever being added to your plan again by a manager, but if you have a new phone that you bought at the subsidy price (read: with contract) then you will probably have to either pony up for the non-contract price or keep the data plan.
If you already had a data plan your service will remain unchanged if you upgrade your phone wether a data plan is required or not.
In 07-08 my wife and I both had Blackberry Pearl 8110's, hers was just the standard was AT&T locked and had been given to her by her mother, mine was purchased unlocked and unbranded. I dropped mine and the screen broke, but I kept it around. In April her phone started to act up ... so I took her phone apart and put the screen on my old unlocked BB inserted her SIM and she was back in business like nothing ever happened. 2 days later she recieved a text that an "appropriate" data plan had been added. She never wanted a dataAT&T only recently started adding the data plans automatically for smartphones. The system can now detect and add the service to your plan without your approval or interaction. The data service CAN be removed and blocked from ever being added to your plan again by a manager, but if you have a new phone that you bought at the subsidy price (read: with contract) then you will probably have to either pony up for the non-contract price or keep the data plan.
I have a Premier account with unlimited talk, text and data on my and my son's lines and unlimited talk and text on my wife and daughters lines.
When I contacted AT&T they informed me that unless the service has a block put on it by a manager that the data plan will indeed re-add itself.
EDIT: IDK WTH happened here .... it was like 3 posts in one, hopefully fixed!!!
have been using the phone for two days
no message about the data plan
i will keep you guys posted
2) WIRELESS DATA SERVICE TERMS AND CONDITIONS (applies to all customers)
I. GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS APPLICABLE TO AT&T'S WIRELESS DATA SERVICES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, FEATURES THAT MAY BE USED WITH WIRELESS DATA SERVICES AND WIRELESS CONTENT.
General Requirements: AT&T provides wireless data services, including but not limited to, features that may be used with wireless data services and wireless content and applications ("Services"). The absolute capacity of the wireless data network is limited. Accordingly, service is only provided for prescribed purposes and pricing for Data Services is device dependent and based on the transmit and receive capacity of each device. A pricing plan designated for one type of device may not be used with another device. Some devices or plans may require you to subscribe to data plan. If AT&T determines that you are not subscribed to the required plan(s), AT&T reserves the right to switch you to the required plan or plans and bill you the appropriate monthly fee. The Services may be subject to credit approval. An activation fee of up to $36 may apply to each new data line. Compatible data-enabled wireless device required.
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Source: AT&T TOS

[Q] Keeping grandfathered unlimited data

So I call AT&T before ordering on amazon, and the rep tells me that I'll be able to call back and switch my data plan to the "5GB Unlimited." I inquire as to how the plan works, she says that if I go over 5GB, I get charged, because it is not unlimited. But then she confirmed that I'll be keeping the grandfathered data plan.
Is this consistent with what other people are getting? Just want to make sure I'm not screwing myself over. Thanks!
It is not called 5GB unlimited. It is LTE unlimited and you will never be charged for overage. What happens is you will be throttled (300k to 500k speed) when you use over 5GB.
You will have to call AT&T to switch back to your unlimited plan after you received your phone from Amazon.
You will probably want to follow up with AT&T after you get your phone to make sure you are actually keeping your grandfathered unlimited plan and that you have not actually been switched over to the 5GB plan.
I had to convince the at&t rep when ordering over the phone that I should have unlimited grandfathered plan.
It is always worth checking to make sure they didn't take it away from you.
While on the phone and on web chat, I asked this specifically with radioshack rep several times that i want to keep my grandfathered unlimited data and they say yes it will be possible. I told them why on my receipt it shows mt dataplan got switched to the 5gb+tether for $50, they said this is only for initial processing, but after approval, everything will go back to the way it was. I made sure to get them to confirm this before I purchased and after i purchased haha.
We will see if this is still the case when I finally get my phone. If not, sucks I might have to cancel and return the phone. unlimited data is pretty valuable especially when you get to go all the way up to 5GB before being throttled in LTE.
When I placed my pre-order through AT&T, I specifically had the option to add the "LTE Unlimited Personal" data package. I was pretty tempted by RadioShack offering it at $50. But given all I read about them farqing things up for pretty much everybody they sell things to, I paid the whole $200 through AT&T. I am willing to pay extra to make sure nobody screws up my unlimited data plan. But that's just me.
I kept my smartphone unlimited plan. AT&T had no problem letting me keep my plan
Keeping my unlimited data plan is the sole reason I always upgrade through ATT. Sure the Radio Shack and Amazon prices are always lower but I never fully trust that ATT will put unlimited data back after I get the phone...
snvyas said:
Keeping my unlimited data plan is the sole reason I always upgrade through ATT. Sure the Radio Shack and Amazon prices are always lower but I never fully trust that ATT will put unlimited data back after I get the phone...
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Agreed. Spending more in the store is worth it to me rather than running the chance of losing the unlimited data plan.
SR4 said:
Agreed. Spending more in the store is worth it to me rather than running the chance of losing the unlimited data plan.
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Even if somehow they screw your data plan up. You can always get your unlimited data plan back. As long as you can:
-Prove that you've had it
-Say that it was changed without your knowledge / consent.
I cannot add them back in the store. You will have to call 611 to get it added back to your account if it was messed up by some other retailer. It's always worth checking your account online to make sure. Or dial *3282#. That will tell you what data plan you currently have.
The type of data connection doesn't matter either. If you are just now moving to your first LTE device, the amount of data you are allowed to transfer before the throttle increases to 5gb from 3gb. The cost is the same and it is still unlimited. Meaning no overage costs.
If you have any specific questions or if customer service gives you any trouble. Please message me and I can help resolve it.
My contract just ended and I have the $30 unlimited data grandfathered. I've always been able to keep it when upgrading by speaking to customer service. But this time I don't want to upgrade for another 2yr contract. I've been a customer forever and would like to have the freedom of no contract for a little bit. I'm currently using a 3g samsung captivate but want to get the s3. I found a really good deal on craigslist. Will at&t let me keep unlimited data without upgrading? I'm just worried that they tell me yes when I call, then after I buy the phone they say no you gotta upgrade. That would suck..
Just swap the sim card into the new phone.
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hugebulge said:
Just swap the sim card into the new phone.
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I believe the GS3 is a MicroSIM, and the Captivate is a "regular" SIM. So the person can get a MicroSIM from AT&T. If you call for one, I think they charge you $15. But in store, they will often give it to you for free to AT&T account holders.
You can also cut the SIM to make it work, using guides online. But its probably easier to just get a free new one from the store.
jsmizzle said:
My contract just ended and I have the $30 unlimited data grandfathered. I've always been able to keep it when upgrading by speaking to customer service. But this time I don't want to upgrade for another 2yr contract. I've been a customer forever and would like to have the freedom of no contract for a little bit. I'm currently using a 3g samsung captivate but want to get the s3. I found a really good deal on craigslist. Will at&t let me keep unlimited data without upgrading? I'm just worried that they tell me yes when I call, then after I buy the phone they say no you gotta upgrade. That would suck..
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Dont' worry, they can't make you upgrade, you can use whatever hardware you want (as long as its compatible with their network).
If you don't presently have LTE on your account, and the phone you are buying is compatible with AT&T's LTE bands, you can get it added to your account w/o an upgrade and w/o a new contract. But you have to go through AT&T to do it (either by phone or in an AT&T store). Simply tell them you want to keep unlimited data, and add LTE. They technically have to change you to a "new" data plan that is unlimited data with LTE, but its really just the same - unlimited data, but with LTE capability added and no extra fee (its just what they do to make it work in their system). Just make sure they do it right before you leave the store or hangup the phone. Its not completely straightforward, it took them about 15 minutes to get it right for me at my AT&T store, and the rep had to bring the manager into it, and they were really trying. But its worth the hassle, since if they screw it up and take unlimited data off your account, its a real pain to add it back.
And this is the only way to add LTE to your account, if the S3 you are buying has LTE.
Thanks guys for the replies. Apparently, the LTE microSIM is different from the 3g microSIM. Even though they're the same size the coding is different. So i'm gonna need to visit the store to get the LTE card. AT&T customer service did tell me that my unlimited data won't change and I won't need to upgrade. So that's cool.. Now it's about choosing which phone to get. I'm still thinking the S3 but I just looked at the demo models at best buy. Damn this is hard. The one x is a beauty and even the atrix hd looks great too. I might just wait until the iphone 5 release on the 12th so all the other phone prices will drop. But that's a whole different thread..

2year contract or prepay???

Straight talk or Actual two year agreement? I can decide what to go with.
I went from Sprint to Straight Talk AT&T with a Galaxy S III (i9300). It depends;
1. Talk is Unlimited on Straight Talk
2. Text is Unlimited
3. Data is "Unlimited". There is no predetermined amount, but 2-3GB would be considered a safe amount. Anything over is grounds for getting your account terminated and requiring a new SIM and phone number.
Coverage is the same as AT&T (or T-Mobile if you pick a T-Mobile SIM) and you get the same HSPA+ speeds as AT&T (or T-Mobile with a T-Mobile SIM). The SIMs will worked in locked phones from the same carrier as the SIM (T-Mobile to T-Mobile SIM, AT&T to AT&T SIM). Both will work in unlocked phones. 99% of international phones are AT&T-compatible for 3G and 4G. Generally you get better coverage with AT&T, and speeds for me are great in here NYC, which is notoriously congested. I can go up to 5 Mbps in good areas, but more like 1.5-2 Mbps on average, which is great.
If you constantly stream and use a crapload of data, it's not for you. But if you use your data use is average or below average, you'll be fine. I've heard of people going up to 5GB of data and still being ok, but just know you're putting your account in danger if you do that. A good way to not lose your number if your data use is a little high (as in the one you have right now) is to port it to Google Voice for $20, and then use the Voice app to send and receive texts from your current number. You can also make your phone make and receive calls to and from that number as well. So if they cancel your account for whatever reason, you make another one and change the forwarding number in the Google Voice settings. That's it.
You really can't beat $45 a month. Unless you're not a big talker, then I would recommend T-Mobile's $30 plan that includes 100 minutes, unlimited text, and 5GB of data @ 4G speeds (unlimited altogether, but you get throttled after). But then you'll be sacrificing coverage vs. AT&T's coverage.
Product F(RED) said:
I went from Sprint to Straight Talk AT&T with a Galaxy S III (i9300). It depends;
1. Talk is Unlimited on Straight Talk
2. Text is Unlimited
3. Data is "Unlimited". There is no predetermined amount, but 2-3GB would be considered a safe amount. Anything over is grounds for getting your account terminated and requiring a new SIM and phone number.
Coverage is the same as AT&T (or T-Mobile if you pick a T-Mobile SIM) and you get the same HSPA+ speeds as AT&T (or T-Mobile with a T-Mobile SIM). The SIMs will worked in locked phones from the same carrier as the SIM (T-Mobile to T-Mobile SIM, AT&T to AT&T SIM). Both will work in unlocked phones. 99% of international phones are AT&T-compatible for 3G and 4G. Generally you get better coverage with AT&T, and speeds for me are great in here NYC, which is notoriously congested. I can go up to 5 Mbps in good areas, but more like 1.5-2 Mbps on average, which is great.
If you constantly stream and use a crapload of data, it's not for you. But if you use your data use is average or below average, you'll be fine. I've heard of people going up to 5GB of data and still being ok, but just know you're putting your account in danger if you do that. A good way to not lose your number if your data use is a little high (as in the one you have right now) is to port it to Google Voice for $20, and then use the Voice app to send and receive texts from your current number. You can also make your phone make and receive calls to and from that number as well. So if they cancel your account for whatever reason, you make another one and change the forwarding number in the Google Voice settings. That's it.
You really can't beat $45 a month. Unless you're not a big talker, then I would recommend T-Mobile's $30 plan that includes 100 minutes, unlimited text, and 5GB of data @ 4G speeds (unlimited altogether, but you get throttled after). But then you'll be sacrificing coverage vs. AT&T's coverage.
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Thanks for the info. Straight to me sounds like a go.. My next question would be phone compatibility? I've been looking at several phones and i think either the DROID3, At&t skyrocket, Iphone4 or motorola atrix 2. Does any of these phones have to be unlocked.
Protip 1: Prepaid is the way to go. You can chop and change at any time then.
Protip 2: Always buy your phone outright. That gives you maximum flexibility. Unless it's a CDMA handset, then you'll need to be with a crowd that has CDMA network.
MrDavon24 said:
Thanks for the info. Straight to me sounds like a go.. My next question would be phone compatibility? I've been looking at several phones and i think either the DROID3, At&t skyrocket, Iphone4 or motorola atrix 2. Does any of these phones have to be unlocked.
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As long as they're AT&T branded or unlocked they'll work (for the AT&T network). The DROID 3 will need to be unlocked and you'd also need to enable domestic GSM on it (I know it's a Verizon phone but not sure if it's global).
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Product F(RED) said:
I went from Sprint to Straight Talk AT&T with a Galaxy S III (i9300). It depends;
1. Talk is Unlimited on Straight Talk
2. Text is Unlimited
3. Data is "Unlimited". There is no predetermined amount, but 2-3GB would be considered a safe amount. Anything over is grounds for getting your account terminated and requiring a new SIM and phone number.
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Tks for info :good:
For me a 2 year contract is better
here in my country it's more economic and you feel free to talk, text, data like whatsapp
Don't ever go with prepaid unless you are tough with cash !!
Hesham_3del said:
For me a 2 year contract is better
here in my country it's more economic and you feel free to talk, text, data like whatsapp
Don't ever go with prepaid unless you are tough with cash !!
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Like you said, in your country it's better. Not here. Here it's crazy expensive to go with a contract.
Another for prepaid. You will definitely get more bang for your buck, if you are ok with coming out of pocket for a non-subsidized phone.
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Another for prepaid. You will definitely get more bang for your buck, if you are ok with coming out of pocket for a non-subsidized phone.
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Which you would end up paying more for over a 2 year period with a contract.
I would provide to buy a phone when the contract is not so good. For example my contract:
monthly 27€ for phone and 5€ for the internet flat with 50sms/min
24x27=648
24x5=120
24x??? what i have more to pay
The easiest way would have been that i bought my phone for a price of <600€ on some portals and than a cheaper contract.
Let's do the math. On Sprint, 1 line with unlimited text and data (and however many minutes, I forget), is like $80 before tax. So let's say it's $90 after.
$90 * 24 = $2160
+ $200 for a phone (average price, not counting tax) = $2360.
Prepaid on Straight Talk (unlimited talk, text, and data*)
$45 a month, about $50 for me after taxes.
Let's say you spent $700 total for a Galaxy S III after taxes. This is the most expensive phone I can think of, so think of this as the lowest possible savings. You can get a cheaper phone like a One X or just bring your own AT&T/T-Mobile phone and not pay anything!
$50 * 24 = $1200
+ $700 = $1900.
$2360 - $1900 = $460 savings, and even more if you buy a cheaper phone or bring your own phone! And it's even BIGGER if you're coming from a more expensive plan. To be clear you're getting the SAME coverage and data speeds as AT&T or T-Mobile on Straight Talk.
Product F(RED) said:
Let's do the math. On Sprint, 1 line with unlimited text and data (and however many minutes, I forget), is like $80 before tax. So let's say it's $90 after.
$90 * 24 = $2160
+ $200 for a phone (average price, not counting tax) = $2360.
Prepaid on Straight Talk (unlimited talk, text, and data*)
$45 a month, about $50 for me after taxes.
Let's say you spent $700 total for a Galaxy S III after taxes. This is the most expensive phone I can think of, so think of this as the lowest possible savings. You can get a cheaper phone like a One X or just bring your own AT&T/T-Mobile phone and not pay anything!
$50 * 24 = $1200
+ $700 = $1900.
$2360 - $1900 = $460 savings, and even more if you buy a cheaper phone or bring your own phone! And it's even BIGGER if you're coming from a more expensive plan. To be clear you're getting the SAME coverage and data speeds as AT&T or T-Mobile on Straight Talk.
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Thanks for all the replies
depends on your service provider.
if this can handle growing subscribers with no problem on service then go for it..
but for me i'll go for prepaid,
in 2 years there will be a time that you will hate your phone not using it right...
$90 a month
That is alot. Buy a huawei and a top up card. Get a prepaid data bundle with the top up,get a prepaid text bundle with the topup,use the balance to call.
Edit: I think sprint calls them prepaid phonecards. I could be wrong.
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Well, my sister ended up giving me her Iphone 3Gs. I will be using this for the time being until I can save up to get one of the other phones that was listed. After I get the BYOD sim. What else needs to be done. Would the MMS work properly?
MrDavon24 said:
Well, my sister ended up giving me her Iphone 3Gs. I will be using this for the time being until I can save up to get one of the other phones that was listed. After I get the BYOD sim. What else needs to be done. Would the MMS work properly?
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Not without jailbreaking, I believe. However, you can go here on your iPhone: http://www.unlockit.co.nz and select US - Straight Talk and it should automatically set up your APN for you.
How do you get a att phone to work on straight talk anyways?
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Mark930 said:
How do you get a att phone to work on straight talk anyways?
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Assuming you choose the AT&T ST SIM, you just put the SIM in it and then fill in the APN info for data. That's it. There's no unlocking necessary because the phone thinks it's an AT&T SIM. When you fill in the APN info though, don't fill in the Proxy parts (except for MMS Proxy, that you'll need for MMS).
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Assuming you choose the AT&T ST SIM, you just put the SIM in it and then fill in the APN info for data. That's it. There's no unlocking necessary because the phone thinks it's an AT&T SIM. When you fill in the APN info though, don't fill in the Proxy parts (except for MMS Proxy, that you'll need for MMS).
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Cool is there a good website that shows you step by step I might try that out.
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