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If you want a faster phone, get the Epic (that is, if you're mainly about 3D gaming). If you want arguably the largest community with the most and most diverse ROMs, definitely the Evo.
This is nothing against the Epic, but the Evo absolutely dominates in terms of mods, ROMs, kernels, and the development community in general. We have Sense ROMs, AOSP ROMs (ie CyanogenMod), MIUI, ROMs from other devices (ie Inspire 4G, Desire, etc). We have mods like full HDMI output with zero lag. Also flashing ROMs and modding in general is much easier on the Evo. You don't really need a computer for anything once you put the files on your card; I don't have experience with the Epic but I've read around enough to know it's a lot more work (lagfixes and such).
If you want a solid device (literally and metaphorically) that's easy and fun to mod the hell out of, Evo hands down.
Here are some of the most popular ROMs for the Evo:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830153
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915527
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956187
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013735
Thanks, I was thinking the same, why can't it be this easy for my vibrant, when I watched a how to flash the evo video. I would love to hear the views of others though
Sent From The Brain Of The Magic Man Through His Nerves, Into His Muscles, To His Fingers And Onto The Magical Screen Of The Vibrant.
Going forward the simplicity of the EVO (which was based on the Hd2 framework) will be harder HTC trying their best to lock the boot loader. Either Way, the Vibrant is a remarkably easy phone to modify, the Epic is harder because the Galaxy phones were set up on a GSM platform then modified to Cdma, so there are some quirks dealing with that.
The real question is what are you going to do with the phone,.... If you are a flashing whore then go where you can the most variety to satisfy yourself. If you just want a great running system then, stay with the Vibrant or alot of other phones they are all just fine plenty out there to keep you happy. The problem that i see with most people is they get "flashing addiction" and forget it is a phone/mini computer
Think about it, would you load new operating systems every week or so on your laptop or desktop. Sounds like a stupid idea. But no, on our phone we think we need to do this or we will be missing something. Android is now to a point that we are not missing much not until we get more powerful hardware. And, that is coming. But for now the Galaxy phones work pretty well........ unless they do not satisfy your "flashing sluttiness"..........
From what all the others are saying it is better to go for an EVO.
evo shift is smaller but lacks front camera and lower price point. epic has front camera but $50 more. I only had epic when it came out but I love it so far!
Neither! Newer, much better dual-core phones are starting to roll out, so there's no reason to drop money on a year-old phone and just be totally left in the dust. Patience, grasshopper.
if you wanna save some money i bet the evo drops in price when the 3 d comes out.
Forgive me if i am mistaken but i am new to the NS4G(as im sure a few of u know) & did not see a Q&A for us but i have a question.
No disrespect but i come from Evo 4g & was curious Y there is very limited roms available for NS4G???
I've heard many a great reviews for the Nexus S but i have not seen any reason y??? My Evo was just as good, mayb even better compared to my now owned Nexus. Roms were a plenty, speed just as fast, better camera, etc...
Like i said i am new to the Nexus S 4g & still learning. But from my understanding the Nexus S was first???
I like the Nexus for its size, not as bulky, but whats size compared to usage?
I still have my Evo & consider giving my nexus to my wife for alot of reasons. I hear of this "so called" ICS update, but im sure the Evo will be sure to get it(rom)...
If u feel my opinion is wrong, PLEASE, feel free to share your thoughts.
Again I bring no disrespect just curiousity...
Thank you for your time & patience.
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Most phones with manufacturer skins (sense, blur, touchwiz) the ROM makers are striving to create AOSP ROMs. We as Nexus owners already have this. The ROMS you see are mainly tweaks to AOSP with the 2 main exceptions being CM7 and MIUI.
So we don't need the same amount as the other phones. Quality over quantity in these parts Hope that helped and answered your question
NYYFan325 said:
Most phones with manufacturer skins (sense, blur, touchwiz) the ROM makers are striving to create AOSP ROMs. We as Nexus owners already have this. The ROMS you see are mainly tweaks to AOSP with the 2 main exceptions being CM7 and MIUI.
So we don't need the same amount as the other phones. Quality over quantity in these parts Hope that helped and answered your question
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Here's a good question, I'm sure its been asked many times and ill probably answer it myself, but I'm looking to get the ns4g soon. Can the ns4g run any roms in the ns development section or no because of the difference between the internation and us radios?
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Here's a good question, I'm sure its been asked many times and ill probably answer it myself, but I'm looking to get the ns4g soon. Can the ns4g run any roms in the ns development section or no because of the difference between the internation and us radios?
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The NS4G only runs NS4G ROMS.
NYYFan325 said:
Most phones with manufacturer skins (sense, blur, touchwiz) the ROM makers are striving to create AOSP ROMs. We as Nexus owners already have this. The ROMS you see are mainly tweaks to AOSP with the 2 main exceptions being CM7 and MIUI.
So we don't need the same amount as the other phones. Quality over quantity in these parts Hope that helped and answered your question
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So... no 3. 0, 3. 5,sense, rosie, 3d widgets, etc...???
I know these are mainly "looks" but isnt that what phones are for???
"Look what my phone can do??? "
Yea we got "wallet" but REALLY???
So if we are "aosp" shouldnt we be able to do this(tweaks)???
No disrespect but like i said earlier, my evo did everything...
My nexus does 60% of this... (unless i am mistaken???)
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Well I had an evo for a year and just got the nexus several months ago and I can say I would never go back. Here's my list of reasons:
1. The screen. I used to be a huge HTC fan, but after using a super amoled screen I don't think I could go back to an LCD. The blacks are so deep, contrast is great and color saturation is amazing.
2. The amount of ROM available is a huge deal for me. On a sense ROM I was lucky to have 200-300mb free for apps. The best I could do was with cyanogen @ 500mb. With my nexus I have about 1gb free space and I don't have to manage what apps I have installed (I usually have 160+ apps installed).
3. Graphics. The two phones might look the same on paper, but they are very different. The nexus is way better at playing 3d games than the evo. If you look in the market you will see the majority of gameloft games are not available for the evo, but they are all available for the nexus. Another example is my n64 emulator. On my evo games like star fox and banjo kazooie would be choppy and slow. They run very smooth on my nexus.
4. The camera is better on the nexus. Yes the evo might be 8mp, but its not about mp's its about the optics. The optics on the evo suck. My pictures were always grainy, and the colors were always washed out. Whereas the pictures on my nexus are smooth and have better contrast and color representation. Yes the camera on the nexus is not omg amazing but its way better than the evo (although I do wish the stock camera had touch to focus).
BUT there are some cons...
1. There is no HTC sense. I don't know what everyone means when they say vanilla android is better, it isn't.
The stock dialer sucks, no t9 dialing. The stock messaging app is ugly.
The stock launcher is crap (I have to load launcher pro just to make it useful)
Lack of any useful Widgets (no Facebook/friend stream, no calendar-the stock one is ugly, no useful clock)
The stock keyboard is okay, the sense one is way better.
The lock screen is useless (sense gives you a preview of your notifications)
Yeah I can, and have found apps and Widgets to fix most of my complaints dialer2, handcent, launcher pro, simple calendar, fancy Widgets, widget locker. But my point is that I shouldn't need too if stock android was so much better. Plus all those extra apps bog down the system and use up a lot of ram which leads me to my next point.
2. Lack of RAM. Yes the nexus has superior graphics performance, but that's because the GPU uses a lot of the RAM up, they should have put in a little more to compensate for it.
But despite my complaints, I'd still never switch back to my evo.
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So... no 3. 0, 3. 5,sense, rosie, 3d widgets, etc...???
I know these are mainly "looks" but isnt that what phones are for???
"Look what my phone can do??? "
Yea we got "wallet" but REALLY???
So if we are "aosp" shouldnt we be able to do this(tweaks)???
No disrespect but like i said earlier, my evo did everything...
My nexus does 60% of this... (unless i am mistaken???)
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The Nexus S is guaranteed to be first (or at least in the first group) to receive an OS update with fully functioning roms like CM pretty quickly after, so all the ICS eye candy (and jellybean later and so on) will be on the NS first.
You can't compare sense to aosp. Oranges & apples. Sense roms use sense frameworks. If those phones were aosp phones, it would be exactly the same. Also the evo has 2 years of development behind it. Most of those roms are in the same boat. Pretty much you can either have an aosp rom , an aosp based rom, a sense rom or a modded sense rom, or a miui rom.
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What's this jellybean u speak of?
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What's this jellybean u speak of?
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Following the naming system J is the next letter and Jellybean is generally agreed to be a suitable code name until we have more info.
Thanks again for everyones input. I am starting to enjoy my nexus s. It gets the job done.
As of now i am rockin CM7.1.0.1 Red ginger theme & minimalist red ADW theme. Looks awesome. Speeds are good, looks good, what else do i need? (wink wink) lol
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Now I know many of these threads have been made before, but currently I am considering switching to the NS4G from my Samsung Epic 4G (Original).
I understand the forum here will be a bit biased, but I am curious to see the what people's opinions are.
What makes me unsure is the fact that I am giving up a physical keyboard, SD Card slot, etc.
I know that the Nexus has way better development though, and I do eventually plan on rooting the device.
Still, it's a battle of better hardware vs better software.
Ideas? Thanks.
I just made the switch, and jumped on the free upgrade from Sprint. I found myself using the physical keyboard on the Epic less and less. Also, I never fill up my storage, and I never really buy sd cards. I am jumping on the Nexus for development purposes, and I like the feel of the phone way more than the larger E4GT and PHOTON. To me, those phones are too big for my hands. I'll let you know when I acutally get the phone, what my impressions are of it. I don't think you can go wrong any way.
I just recently got one and both as a developer as well as an avid system modder, I have to say this phone is just absolutely fantastic! I've only had it for about 5 days and I'm in love with it. I got the ballistic soft gel case for it and I'm never going back to my evo.
I just switched from an EVO Shift and had to give up a keyboard. I don't regret it. The only thing I miss is the Shift's screen was a lot sharper which was most noticeable when reading text...I assume because of the Pentile on this screen and the fact that the screen on the shift was only 3.6", not pentile but yet had the same resolution(480x800). However, that isn't an issue going from the Epic to the NS4G. Also, how full and how much do you really remove your SD card? I use dropbox for almost all file transfers even when I was using my Shift so that also isn't a big deal.
I assume performance will feel pretty much the same between the Epic and the NS4G so don't expect a huge performance boost.
I think the main thing would be whether you really want the HW keyboard or not and also whether or not you really need or want to have the newest OS vs a possible port on the Epic which has the potentil of being a lot more buggy. If you like to tinker I believe the NS4G is a much better phone because of all the development for it.
I have to believe selling your Epic and buying a used NS4G wouldn't set you back very much money since there are people who swear by a HW keyboard and the Epic is still arguably the best Android keyboard phone on Sprint (The Shift is the other one but they are quite different and I'm guessing people will strongly choose one or the other) so I would go for it.
Hey Acer, I remember you over in the Epic side of the bridge, LOL.. I still have my Epic 4G like you, so when the EVO 3d came out, I bought it out of pocket. I really like my EVO 3d, as development for it is amazing. I like the EVO 3d much, much better than I liked my Epic. IMO. The sense UI is very useful, and i like sense much more than i like TWiz. Anyhoo, since my owning the EVO 3d, I have come across a Nexus S 4G. And all I can say is WOW! The development for the nexus is off the hook! As for the look, feel, and the UI, well the look of it is slim, and slender, it feels nice in my hand. The UI on it, I can sum up in one word, SMOOTH! It doesn't have all the bells and whistels (? did I spell that right?) on it that sense has, but if you use "Android Pro Widgets" with it, you will have really nice sense style widgets to boot. All in all, I like both the EVO 3d and the nexus S the best. My advice is get the nexus s, I don't think you'll be disapointed. It's really nice.
In loving memory of my son "Jeffrey Ryan Giles" 11/17/1992 to 11/25/2011 :'(
I have the opportunity to trade my Nexus S plus a difference with a month old HTC Sensation.
While I love the Nexus S in so many ways, I'm like a kid and the mirrage of a new toy is always appealing. Also dual core CPU, also bigger screen, also more RAM, also better camera, also the HTC design, which I personally like.
If I do I plan on rooting and flashing ICS. Is this easily achieved? I had a quick browse on the Sensation dev forum and while there were some ICS roms, development seemed rather timid.
What are your thoughts?
I would say go for it, flashing was easily achieved and loads of fun to
And bout the roms, there are plenty, also ICS ones.
I'm currently running Android Revolution HD + faux kernel, which is an ICS rom.
Its all working like a charm
How about the screen? I've read that although bigger, it's not got the same quality as that of the Nexus S. Do you own/have you owned a Nexus S? What are you basing your opinion on?
I'm not trying to be rude or anything I just want to be properly informed.
So this may be a silly question in a Nexus S forum, but would you guys recommend this device? I have an evo 3d and I just can't take the lack of development on it. I don't want to use my upgrade yet, so I'm trying to buy one cheap or trade for it.
The 3D is no doubt better spec-wise (dual core, 1GB RAM) but you can't beat the development of the Nexus S.
More specifically, is there anything you are after with regard to development? Features, themes, etc? Or do you just want to release the crackflasher within?
I just purchased a NS4G today on eBay for $61. The one I got has a bad esn, but I won't be using sprint, so I don't care.
With the ice cream sandwich they pushed today, I'd definitely say its worth it. You can find them for ~130 easily
I don't have the skill to develop for myself, but I love new roms, love vanilla android, love all the customization stuff. I found a local guy on CL who has a bricked one for $20. i think it is probably a soft-brick but figured worst case I'm out $20. I don't game too much on my phone, how is battery life? Does it feel snappy with the ICS update?
Thanks for the feedback so far guys! Hopefully join your forums for reals soon!
I have had a NS4G for about 6 months and I just got my son an evo 3d. I can say that my phone is much quicker and I've used non-sense/rooted roms and phones quite a bit. Sense isn't even intuitive to me any longer. I will let him ride it as long as he can since he's never had a smart phone but it makes little sense for my use. Battery is suggestive because of so many variables but I think he charges quite a bit more than his rant or ipod touch. Totally different beasts though. My previous phone was a heroc and I stopped running sense a while back. Having all features of the phone more easily work with rooted aosp roms is a big plus. Honestly, sense makes any phone feel like wm imo. If you have the means to get the phone, I would say you wouldn't be disappointed. I should also note that I get all my phones on contract and won't go over $99 so I cannot speak to the street value of either phone or really how much bang per buck. My son's 3d is nice but it doesn't impress me more than the hundred I spent on it, stock, and I can say the same about my phone. And as far as Development, both phones have lots of devs that I'm familiar with and they all put forth some great work but the options I've seen in aosp based roms on this phone make it damn sexy and functional.
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