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First, my phone info as reported by Settings/About Phone:
Model: Samsung-SGH-I897
Firmware: 2.1-update1
Baseband: I897UCJH7
Kernel: 2.6.29 [email protected] #2
Build Number: ECLAIR.UCJH7
I have visited the ROM section and I probably dont need to tell you that it is just a little bit confusing (for me anyway)as to which ROM to use.
I would like to flash a new ROM to bring me up to FroYo and I "think" I want to use the Andromeda ROM. I have a couple of questions though.
First, (for the Devs) should I go ahead and flash to FroYo or wait for am Android 3.0 ROM (assuming one is forthcoming)?
Second, is the difference between the "themed" and "un-themed" ROM just cosmetic? Do they both function the same?
There are a few "how to" threads on flashing. They are very detailed and take you step by step. I'd suggest you read or watch the videos.
The questions about Andromeda are well covered in the thread. You just need to read through it. Flashing now or waiting is purely up to you. There's not a GB ROM that's stable enough to run day to day. There's only one that I know of and they are still working a lot of problems out of it.
Thank you.
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Second, is the difference between the "themed" and "un-themed" ROM just cosmetic? Do they both function the same?
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Yep, just prettier (in some cases that is).
I'm really looking for a ROM that is as close to "stock" Froyo as possible that will work well with my U.S. phone. I understand Cognition is built on the just released Rogers build, but should I use a Canadian build on my U.S. phone?
I'm using Cognition and find it really nice. No Canadian phrases coming out of it.
If you are going to flash your first rom make sure you read through the forums and figure your what you need to do. Everything that you need are in them. I just flashed my first rom this weekend. Forums are very helpful!!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897. Using Cognition, Firebird, and JL2 modem.
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I'm really looking for a ROM that is as close to "stock" Froyo as possible that will work well with my U.S. phone. I understand Cognition is built on the just released Rogers build, but should I use a Canadian build on my U.S. phone?
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I live in Canada and use an American captivate using the cognition ROM and it works just fine.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
Serendipity 5.x is by far the best Captivate ROM out there, in my opinion. Fast, clean, stable, bloat-free, and tastefully themed.
I just flashed the un-themed version of Andromeda, needless to say I was and am still very pleased with it. It was my first time flashing a ROM and went very smoothly, I guess I just got sick of AT&T jerking around.
I might make a quick video comparing Andromeda 1.0 on the captivate to a stock captivate (my bro's). That is if there is any interest in one.
Btw does any one know when the over clocked kernels will be released, I'm pretty anxious to try them out.
How do you like Andromeda? I started with cognition, then used phoenix for a while and liked both of them. I switched to serendipity last week and it has been rock solid to be honest, but I am always wanting to tinker with this thing. I flashed the KNP1 modem today to see if I get the better data speeds people are reporting and am hoping to gain a little battery life.
I guess everybody has thier own favorite ROM. I am kind of leaning toward either Cognition or Phoenix but cant decide which one. I want as close to "stock" 2.2 (or 2.3) as possible and it looks like Cognition might be the way to go. I have read through the Cognition Wiki and cant determine which flavor of Android (2.2/2.3) Cognition 3.04 is based on (unless I missed it). Anyone know?
TayzGpa said:
I have read through the Cognition Wiki and cant determine which flavor of Android (2.2/2.3) Cognition 3.04 is based on (unless I missed it). Anyone know?
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There are some videos on you tube that walk you trough the flashing process that I found to be really helpful for my first flash. I also had a written walk thru up from this site. I had no problems with my first using these 2 restorers. Good luck. And andromeda looks very cool. There are also rom reviews on you tube that show you what the rom does. Good luck
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
jferg5 said:
There are some videos on you tube that walk you trough the flashing process that I found to be really helpful for my first flash. I also had a written walk thru up from this site. I had no problems with my first using these 2 restorers. Good luck. And andromeda looks very cool. There are also rom reviews on you tube that show you what the rom does. Good luck
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=877652
If you haven't already please read through the guide in my sig.
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If you haven't already please read through the guide in my sig.
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I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
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I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
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I agree. Something like "answer these 20 questions and here's the ROM that most matches what you want" would be great. I am still trying to figure it out.
What I am looking for is, if AT&T (or Samsung for that matter) were to finally release FroYo, here is what it would most likely look like and how it would probably perform. I'm still thinking Cognition is the closest since it was based on the Canadian FroYo release but *MAN* can it be confusing.
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I read through the guide "Guide for choosing the right rom for YOU" that you link to in your sig; and i see nothing about choosing the right ROM For me.
The title suggests that there is a guide to choosing a ROM - maybe a matrix of features, or a questions list to help someone decide. Instead the closest thing i find is one sentence "Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom"
Did i miss something? Where is the guide to choosing the right ROM for me?
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The point of that is so that you figure out what is best for you, not that I am telling you what to do. I am simply trying to GUIDE new users on how to go about making informed decisions on which ROM they choose. Too many people rely solely on what others say instead of trying things for themselves, which is why I created that post encouraging people to discover new things.
If you have questions about a certain rom, post in the ROM thread in the dev section. If you don't have 10 posts yet and still have questions, then post in the Q&A section, not captivate general.
What I don't think new users understand is that almost every person has a different preference about what ROM, kernel and modem combo work best. Me personally, I love di11igafs ROMs, but many other people prefer different things. Its pretty much like asking a group of random people, "what is the best car on the market and what options would get with said car?" Almost everyones answer will vary slightly.
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I agree. Something like "answer these 20 questions and here's the ROM that most matches what you want" would be great. I am still trying to figure it out.
What I am looking for is, if AT&T (or Samsung for that matter) were to finally release FroYo, here is what it would most likely look like and how it would probably perform. I'm still thinking Cognition is the closest since it was based on the Canadian FroYo release but *MAN* can it be confusing.
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Like you, I recently started trying to figure this out after getting an AT&T Captivate and I agree about the need for a better listing for features (or lack of) for each ROM. A good matrix to compare would be nice, but I fear there are so many people working on these things and it all moves so fast, it would be a full-time job just to keep it up. Reading through all this stuff is quite overwhelming. However, I honestly think it's not bad once you figure out the basics and understand the ropes. By the time you get the things to load on your phone, with Clockworkmod Recovery, Odin and some other tools, life is pretty simple--the devs have done all the hard work, you're just flashing the stuff and figuring out what you like best.
Here is what I can tell you that may help and like I said, I'm pretty new at this, so someone *please* correct me if I'm wrong. I would not want to mislead anyone:
1. Cognition is an "Americanized" version of the Rogers 2.2 Captivate release. If you want 2.2.1 you have to use another custom ROM. Everything with Cognition appears to be well done, stable and smooth. I spent a couple hours trying to get wireless tether to work only to figure out MobileAP is built in and works
2. Look up the videos on YouTube by MobileTechVideos. They are very good and well produced, plus he looks at all the different ROMs. There is a 3-part video on loading Cognition on a captivate. I used it to load 3.04 on mine in almost real time right with the video. The only thing I would caution you on is if you use Titanium Backup to restore apps, be careful about "select all" like he says you can do in the video. I'm not sure if I had backed up system data and accidentally restored it or what--didn't go back that far to check, but after I did my restore I thought everything was fine and I could not make outgoing calls the next day. I reloaded from scratch following the videos again and this time use TB to restore one app+data at a time and was very picky about what I did and it worked wonderfully.
3. Once I got everything working I started to get curious about kernels. Once you have your ROM loaded, you can flash a new kernel (has to be same version as the ROM) and you can get enhancements with speed and other things by doing so. However, I loaded Firebird and did not notice in the thread that Bluetooth doesn't work yet, so I'm trying to figure out if I can go back or if I have to start over. Not a big deal to start over since I know what I'm doing now, just want to push the limits a little cause that's how I roll For some reason after Firebird I also seen duplicate photos on my SD card, even though there were only singles. It's like thumbnails were duplicated or something. I moved the pics off to my PC and it left blank thumbnails behind. I deleted them from the gallery and put the pics back and everything cleared up. I've seen stranger things--no biggie.
4. Battery life was fairly bad at this point, dropping 10-15% or more per hour. My phone came with the JH7 modem (last digits of your Baseband version in Settings -- About Phone). Cognition 3.04 comes with JL1 and many others were reporting great battery life with JL2 so I flashed it and everything seems to be much better so far. I haven't reset the battery stats and such, but I will at some point. Looks like a lengthy process that may or may not help.
5. I see a lot of "do I have to flash to stock first" questions posted and from what I understand, it's best practice to follow the instructions and don't ask why--just do it. Learn how to backup and restore apps+data (not system data) using TB and it's no big deal.
6. I read a lot about different builds of the Captivate--lots of posts about 1006, 1007, 1008's so I was concerned about the issues discussed. I'm guessing these were the early releases. I got mine at the end of January and it's a 1012. Look under your battery right under the serial number.
I suppose once I have this part of it working well and figured out, I will probably start looking into themes and digging deeper. It's pretty addictive so once you start, you just keep wanting more and more and making it better and better. Thanks to all the devs out there. I plan on making a few donations soon, especially to Designgears since his stuff is mostly what I've worked with so far.
My advice is to take a day or two and read *A LOT*. The old carpenters saying is "Measure twice and cut once" and that is pretty much how I look at this stuff. After you figure out how the puzzle pieces fit together, you lose the fear.
Hope this helps and if I would appreciate it if someone more advanced can confirm my statements or correct me.
Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
Newish Noob to Boob Noob...
DocHollywoodHank said:
Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
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Howdy Hank, and Welcome. MOST devs will ask that you please read the guides and search thru what become diluted and crappy threads. Avoid Techie Litter and READ Mr. Clowns One stop Inspire Guide - in the Forum Inspire 4G Android Development - you'll want to bookmark it. There is a lot of repetition, so I can paste the best and most vital below.) and search so that you would avoid re-creating already answered threads. From what I gather and experienced, it is very repetitious and annoying answering our simple questions - its a puzzle we havent pieced together, and its on us to do that. After being somewhat literate in the geekspeak (sorry DevS!!) and you start getting more relevant inormation processed and formatted in your own Hard drive -BRAIN- You begin formulating more specific and pertinent questions. Until then, if and if and when you get an answer, the word or incomplete sentence they respond with is to encourage searching, again. - Your problem is most likely NOT unique. Informed and Deliberate SEARCHING and READing before asking is vital. YOU need to know and understand what you are doing. I Did Not. I found out the hard way.... also be sure to post all threads in appropiate section, no double posting.
We have some great developers on our forum, and the Moderator -Mr. Clown- DOES CLEAN HOUSE.
Hi Mr. Clown! Anyone ever told you how utterly freaky your profile pic is?
Finally, when your in exasperation, because you did not listen to that little voice in your head (or developer within) - and if you cant find your answer after SEARCHING - its probably a viable question. with that said....
I will post a link or two at the bottom for you. From what I gather, especially until you have some experience flashing (make a Nandroid backup everytime!!!) It would be best to stick with your stock radio. One of the most finnicky parts of rom management is flashing radios, and without a successful flash, your looking at a 500$ paperweight. Each device, (Inspire) is the same yet also different. The radio that JimBob uses and loves, may scrabble your signal and/or cause battery issues, connectivity issues etc... Dont get too caught up in maximizing the performance of your device, as simply rooting your phone and installing almost any kustom Rom/Kernal will all but increase performance to maximum. (Edit - soon you'll learn about over and under clocking... THINK SPEED!)
Flashing radios is one of the more dangerous and somewhat advanced manuevers you can perform. Proceed with caution. Did I mention you must be rooted, with S-Off, and no fewer than a buttload of worries and clicks and blah blah later, you may possibly experience better signal/battery etc. However - you can also dramatically decrease performance, and or Brick your device. I cannot stress this enough. I took these admonitions with somewhat of a lackadaisical (carefree) attitude, and many deep breaths and fingers crossed later - have learned to appreciate how much more BadA$$ my device is just being rooted, and breaking those stock parameters... YOUR PHONE IS SMART - DO NOT BE STUPID.
If you really really must flash a radio, you will also need the corresponding RIL code for said radio. Some come packaged with the radio, not all do. I only began looking earnestly into radios over the last couple of weeks, and the results were varied, but none performed better than stock. Remember a radio must be in PD98IMG.zip format or installation will be aborted. Before I climb down off my pedestal of recently acquired knowledge, let me say some of the links and the threads and info posted can often sound appealing - but lead to some pretty Pre 3G performance and worse. Sometimes there are alternatives and occasionally things will sound contradictory, However the devs usually find common ground and work together to keep everything streamlined and portaled. No. Ported. I think.
Some folks prefer the 50 click/usb debug/ abkpush method by RogerRabbitt whilst others prefer a different, easier(?) yet still (often) HIT and MISS flash from recovery... Best Way - Boot into Recovery, and Manage things yourself. You know its wiped, flashed, if not flashed - why, etc. And lets face it, the geek factor is pretty damn cool. Controlling your phones operating system is Extremely Fragile territory, but you'll feel awesome when whooing the ladies with your new P.C. slang.
"HI I am Dyliho, and Your Amazingly Beautiful...What do you say you give me SuperUser Permissions - and I Root that StockRom you've got, then I can flash your Kernal with MY Uploaded Zip, and really get you going..."
Take this with a grain of salt - but I found a method where simply renaming your radio download to 98PDIMG.zip, and placing it to the root of your sd card (sd/), then power off, then holding vol. down THEN power and hold which brings you into bootloader. As it will do everytime, it searches for the PD98IMG.zip, only this time finds it (you just created it and put it on the root of your SD) - and it takes over and you follow directions - yields seemingly flawless results (as far as flashing is concerned) and avoids some pretty scary things I have read about PermaBricks. ALWAYS CHECK MD5 SUM TO ENSURE NO FILES WERE CORRUPTED DURING TRANSFER/DOWNLOAD BEFORE YOU FLASH. Before you Flash. AGAIN - before you flash verify... The md5 sum when matching Devs md5 sum is verification the file is complete. A RADIO MUST BE WHOLESOME AND CLEANLY TRANSFERED/DOWNLOADED. Other Stuff is fixable (generally) or just wont flash, but no harm no foul.... A failed radio boot you can't recover from they say. I dont want to know. Three radios flashed for me yielded horrible results with signal and battery for One, while the ATT Radio and New Update seem to yield the same statistics. Its only 48 hours into this ATT Update though, as I said before, I have messed up. You do not need ENG S-Off, only A rooted phone with S-Off to flash the radio. Please sir, READ READ READ and put the pieces together yourself, and check comments frequently. I WISH YOU LUCK, and if you inform yourself, you should be Fine.zip
Oh Yeah!! The Rom I Married is MiUI. A brand new stable release can and will be dropping any moment. Try it, I LOVE IT. Some hate it, too much of an iOS look, iphone may be inferior, but aesthetics is the one of the most yet also least amazing things about this Rom. Performance is AMAZINGLY Awesome, using Cyano#6 by Cattleprod, a devoted kernal tweaker - and the Inspire Support for MiUI by Symonc is Top-Notch. The guy is literally bombarded with posts and he is quick to help and usually has the fix, if he hasnt already answered it twice. STOCK radio in my opinion was made for this Rom (not factually, every device is different to an extent, remember that.) Aside from speed and potential Phone Frying Performance + a thousand other awesome features, MiUI has the guilt free bonus of Not Accepting Donations. Though I dont guess they would kill you if you did...
My Radio was stock 12.19.xx.xx.30.06.04.06(?) And now I have the OTA Update by either Att or HTC. 26.06.06.06(?) ----->(never do Over The Air Updates for stock software, I found a radio_update someone posted, and used the download link. remember - you've been rooted!!)<------
What I would call the MUST READS. For Now. Then Later Re-Read, and it'll all come together....
MudKnots Awesome guide : More Comprehensive - Covers Goldcards, Rooting, Flashing, Recovery, Fixes etc... ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033353
ShadowFoxs SweetA$$ Radio Guide : Technical and RISKY. BE Informed ----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12264291#post12264291
DarkAdriens Comprehensive Battery Performance Guide:
-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
Finally - Turbonium X audio fix. Must Have - get better speaker quality now.
-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=937080
Theres other stuff, But I thinks me rattled on too long...
BTW - This was all done using:
-MyPocketWizard-
And lastly - forgive me for assuming your a new comer to Xda, more specifically -a Rooted Android. I kind of wanted to get it all out myself, as I have spent the better part of a month anxiously Flashing for Performance and winding up soft-bricked and boot-looped. The Last 48 hours I spent Optimizing my phone to Holy Batman and back to soft brick, somehow frying or damaging my SD card - and finally - back to a glorious example of superb performance. Its all bare bones too, save for (that awesome developers name here) Tinny Audio Fix for Inspire and Desire HD.
Oh yes --- and all Desire HD (HD) files should be perfectly compatible with INSPIRE. THERE. now I AM DONE. Once you find your Rom/Kernal combo Stick with it. THE DEVS ROCK! with awesome and constant updates!!! - WOOOO! Did ya make it thru? Everything else is slightly more complicated and technical... Let Your Fun Begin!!! And GoodDay and GoodNight. You may be playing a while....
I tried out that ROM with the suggested radio. I ran it for @4 days. I couldn't keep a good signal around town and I could never get a solid gps lock. I went back to stock radio and MIUI. You will probably get more answers if you ask the question in the thread about the ROM so everyone using the ROM sees your question.
Gotcha
darkside1904 said:
I tried out that ROM with the suggested radio. I ran it for @4 days. I couldn't keep a good signal around town and I could never get a solid gps lock. I went back to stock radio and MIUI. You will probably get more answers if you ask the question in the thread about the ROM so everyone using the ROM sees your question.
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Attempted to ask ?? in ROM thread but being new to site it wouldn't let me...Got message I didn't have at least 10 posts on site so I couldn't reply in the thread...
Anyways, thanks for the info on ur experience w/ the ROM. Just Rooted my phone bout an hour ago & was looking for a ROM to flash & thought I would try this one. All of this is new to me so I am taking BABY steps.
Thanks dyliho!
Thanks for the noob to noob info. Much appreciate.
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Thanks for the noob to noob info. Much appreciate.
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Trust me man, it is No problemo. I did not take baby steps, and went a day several times working through worthless threads, erring on the side of caution. Then when I got it running again - I dove back in. I just got it back to badass - and the great thing is I am only running MIUI and Cattlprods Cyano Kernal with the OTA updated radio, and the ever needed Tinny Audio fix by that other awesome dude...
There are lots of things people do to make thier Inspires Inspiring. The developers wind up incorporating these to a great extent into thier work, making it easy for you. And when you download a rom, link the thread - developers really enjoy and need the CRITICAL input... the noob onslaught that tires them. Thank them, and show your love by donating if/when possible. Youll learn to love it, if you dont already. MiUI, its gonna be ready.soon, if not now(?!)
Get ready.to have a completely customized user interface (if you desire) and amazing performance at an amazingly reliable and small package. Bigger is not always better on Android...
-MyPocketWizard-
DocHollywoodHank said:
Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
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Dyliho must be a politician; in all his rambling he didn't really truly answer your specific questions very well and I'm not sure he's even used the ROM you are specifically asking about. But his posts do contain unsolicited info on forum rules, conflicting reasons on why you should and shouldn't flash a radio, some blurbs about MIUI and symonc, and something about being lackadaisical.
You asked for feedback, so here is mine. As you may know, TPGB-CM20110509 is a Gingerbread ROM based on CM7 build 61. The recommended radio (26.06.06.30) is the new radio that was pushed to the stock Inspire ROMs at the end of April. I've used this radio on TPGB-CM20110509 and CM7 build 69, and this radio is performing very well. The matching Radio Interface Layer (RIL) for this radio is HTC-RIL_2.2.0079HM, which was also pushed out to the stock Inspires at the same time as the radio. I've had very good results with this RIL, as well as the RIL that now comes with CM7 (HTC-RIL_2.2.0099HM). My battery life has never been better. As with a lot of custom ROMs, my GPS totally sucked, but using the GPS fix mentioned in my sig fixed this issue (GPS now locks in under 5 seconds outdoors, 7-15 seconds indoors). Speeds are also great with my APN fix applied (see sig). So my recommendation is to definitely try out this radio. If you need any help or instructions feel free to PM me. I'm also still fully supporting my APN thread in the Dev section if you have any issues with that.
@henrybravo a smidge off-topic but which gps fix did you flash? I flashed North America and I was curious if you are having better results using just the area you are located.
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@henrybravo a smidge off-topic but which gps fix did you flash? I flashed North America and I was curious if you are having better results using just the area you are located.
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I don't plan on traveling outside of my region in the near future so I just flashed the region specific file - in my case it is GPSFIX_SouthMidState.V1.2.zip. I haven't flashed the overall North American fix, how is that one working out for you?
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Dyliho must be a politician; in all his rambling he didn't really truly answer your specific questions very well and I'm not sure he's even used the ROM you are specifically asking about. But his posts do contain unsolicited info on forum rules, conflicting reasons on why you should and shouldn't flash a radio, some blurbs about MIUI and symonc, and something about being lackadaisical.
You asked for feedback, so here is mine. As you may know, TPGB-CM20110509 is a Gingerbread ROM based on CM7 build 61. The recommended radio (26.06.06.30) is the new radio that was pushed to the stock Inspire ROMs at the end of April. I've used this radio on TPGB-CM20110509 and CM7 build 69, and this radio is performing very well. The matching Radio Interface Layer (RIL) for this radio is HTC-RIL_2.2.0079HM, which was also pushed out to the stock Inspires at the same time as the radio. I've had very good results with this RIL, as well as the RIL that now comes with CM7 (HTC-RIL_2.2.0099HM). My battery life has never been better. As with a lot of custom ROMs, my GPS totally sucked, but using the GPS fix mentioned in my sig fixed this issue (GPS now locks in under 5 seconds outdoors, 7-15 seconds indoors). Speeds are also great with my APN fix applied (see sig). So my recommendation is to definitely try out this radio. If you need any help or instructions feel free to PM me. I'm also still fully supporting my APN thread in the Dev section if you have any issues with that.
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Bravo Henry Bravo, you have scrutinized my flawed intro to the man. No reason to be a hater. People left the dude hanging... I thought it was pretty good, and it cleared up for me a lot of what I have been Consumed with. I recently edited and tried to clarify, however I stated this was from a Noob to a Noob. He just joined, and what I have read was good - However So much wasnt presented in an easy to digest manner. People have Threads, buried in threads, buried in posts. No one else would take the time to say that - so I did. If its illicit, or too off topic. Mr. Clown will be along shortly...
I am no politician. Poly=Many Tics=Bloodsuckers. We have to band together in the worst way possible to overcome differences and make the world a better place. I only wanted to help. Dont bust on the Noobies - We Can Learn just Like You good sir.
[If you need any help or instructions feel free to PM me. I'm also still fully supporting my APN thread in the Dev section if you have any issues with that.[/QUOTE]
You didnt take offense because you werent mentioned did you? For someone who just joined, and even to me at times, these things can be difficult to decipher.
And I had no clue TPDj8764 or whatever was a ROM.
Geez Man - Build A Buddy Up, And Encourage One Another.
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Wanted 2 know what Radio individuals using this Rom flashed: the Recommended one or another?
If something other than the Recommended Radio, what Radio r u using? & any probs using this different Radio?
Thanks in advance.
Hank
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And Sorry Hank, I didnt know Tgbpr6743 was a Rom. I assumed it was auto correct gone haywire or something of the sort - and you were asking about radios in general. Henry is Talented and Wise, if nothing else, however if your speeds are good the wont get much better, for a moment... I will let Henry_Bravo explain it to you in that fancy Zip talk I mentioned works well with the ladies...
The Point was, of ALL the Important Need to Have Get Go's, and The 80 Versions out there - Those are most relevant, in my opinion.
Peace and Again - Apologies. Wasnt it perfect though? You have an Example of the SmartAss Condescending Techie - It wasnt Nice, but courtesy is a concept very few can get. I hope I helped. And in case you dont know what a sig. is yet, Here is a link to HenryBravos SuperAwesomeDataMaxFix....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042553
-MyPocketWizard-
This is the most wordy thread I have seen in quite a long time. Dyliho, I can't read your posts. Way too wordy. I'm sure you are trying to help but, God man. Or are you a woman. That might explain it actually.
I have used 26_06_06_30_M radio in about 7 different ROMs and it has been the best for me. Maybe give it a try. I live in Central Pennsylvania.
Thanks to All Who Have Replied
Thanks every1. From the long 2 the short replies, I gleened valuable info from each. Yes, I am a noob & was glad 2 recieve all info I did in this thread.
Was successful in Rooting my phone & installed the GingerBeast ROM last night as a place to start. Just Flashed it & nothing more at this time. Will play w/ it later 2day & c how everything goes.
Ultimately do want to try the TPGB-CM20110509 ROM, but was concerned bout the Recommended Radio being different than mine & GingerBeast utilized mine so I felt more comfortable trying it for the 1st go round.
Again, going at it slow & reading/learning as much as I can b4 trying things.
Appreciate any & all help.
dyliho said:
You didnt take offense because you werent mentioned did you?
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Yes you figured me out. I was indeed highly offended. [/S]
LOL @kimtyson's post above.
Using 26.06.06.30_M since flashing this rom, working fine for me. GPS locks fast, speeds are good.
I've been in the Development forum and the threads are sometimes over 400 pages. I was wanting to see a more concise thread on what you're using. Specifically the ROM, the kernel, the radio, etc. If you're having any issues please add them and let me know how the ROM is working for you. I'm interested in a few different ROMs, but chosing which kernel and radio to get them to work properly is a pain to find in the 200-400 page threads.
Most of us rep our current ROM and kernel in our sigs. I personally tried to link the radio too, but the URL was too long.
As to the length of threads/ forums, you can refine your search to the current forum or thread you are on right above the thread/ post list at the right of the frame.
They tried doing this a few months back, doing reviews about roms and known bugs and such. It didn't get very far. While its a good idea, the very nature of roms is "change" so while a review might be valid and have the correct bugs, it could be invalid next week, due to update made to the rom. The best way to evaluate a rom your considering choosing, is reading the change log, and the last ten or more pages of the roms thread, that should give you an idea if any one is having any major bugs.
ROMs are based personally. Try them all then pick.
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Maybe if the Roms stated "Final Version" on them you could pull this off. But None do.
After a lot of unhelpful replies, I'll respond to the question the person actually asked.
I'm using Lees Rom and Kernal and LOVE it. I settle on it after a friend told me it was his favorite and after trying about 4 other ROMs with crappy results.
It is loaded with features and it also has a patch to use Sense 3.0. I personally like Sense more than any custom attempts I have seen and 3.0 is worlds better than 2.x
I still have the stock radio because I can't seem to get it to update. I have been trying by renaming the radio img zip to P98img.zip (or whatever its called) and updating through the bootloader on the phone. But it always gives me an error parsing the package.
Only thing that worries me is that for some reason (the last few times I tried) I couldn't get into bootloader/recovery by holding volume- while booting. So if the phone ever gets locked up, I'm not sure how to recover. You can get into either through the custom power down menu though which is very cool.
weregoingunion said:
After a lot of unhelpful replies, I'll respond to the question the person actually asked.
I'm using Lees Rom and Kernal and LOVE it. I settle on it after a friend told me it was his favorite and after trying about 4 other ROMs with crappy results.
It is loaded with features and it also has a patch to use Sense 3.0. I personally like Sense more than any custom attempts I have seen and 3.0 is worlds better than 2.x
I still have the stock radio because I can't seem to get it to update. I have been trying by renaming the radio img zip to P98img.zip (or whatever its called) and updating through the bootloader on the phone. But it always gives me an error parsing the package.
Only thing that worries me is that for some reason (the last few times I tried) I couldn't get into bootloader/recovery by holding volume- while booting. So if the phone ever gets locked up, I'm not sure how to recover. You can get into either through the custom power down menu though which is very cool.
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And I'm sure you'll be back to update your post once those issues in Lee's ROM are resolved, or you figure out it wasn't the ROM fault, after all, or if you decide you don't like sense anymore, right?
That's what those "unhelpful" posts were trying to get across.
These things change. ROMs get fixed.
Sometimes users of ROMs pull their heads out of their ass' and figure out their problems were actually of their own creation, after they blamed the ROM.
So when a new user comes around a month from now, finds a best ROM post that has obsolete information, that new user will form an unfair opinion of what might now be (or always was) a great ROM.
Now *that's* unhelpful.
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Only thing that worries me is that for some reason (the last few times I tried) I couldn't get into bootloader/recovery by holding volume- while booting. So if the phone ever gets locked up, I'm not sure how to recover. You can get into either through the custom power down menu though which is very cool.
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be sure you have Fastboot turned off in Applications.
Another thing you can do is download Quickboot from the market...then boot into bootloader from there. Quickboot>bootloader
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After a lot of unhelpful replies, I'll respond to the question the person actually asked..
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Really? You call me unhelpfull for being honest yet you post and don't even post anything helpful. infact you noobed the whole post. You can't even flash a radio...Or figure out how to boot into recovery....Your Rom information is valueless. You should jump off your pedistal before you fall....Or someone pushes you....
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Really? You call me unhelpfull for being honest yet you post and don't even post anything helpful. infact you noobed the whole post. You can't even flash a radio...Or figure out how to boot into recovery....Your Rom information is valueless. You should jump off your pedistal before you fall....Or someone pushes you....
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I think it was that "alot of unhelpful replies" part that did it for me.
I'm not looking to find out what Rom is best, but to see what combinations of roms, kernels, and radios you guys are using. It's almost impossible to find an exact combo and even harder to dig thru the threads to see what people are using.
I browse a lot of threads, have only commented a few times. Been browsing for a couple years when I flashed different WinMo 6.5 roms on my ATT Fuze, as well as loading and running Android 2.1 and 2.2 from the SD card on the same phone. I will +1 some of the advice heard here so far:
Start by looking at threads where the ROM's have been updated recently (within the ten days for me). Check the change log to see if it's new features, upgrades, or bug fixes in the current updates. Or if it's a mix of it all, but look for things that interest you. Then, as stated earlier in this thread, check the last ten pages, at least the ones since the current update became available.
Also, it helps me to watch who is responding on the threads. Many users will became recognizable to you by name and avatar, and watch their post counts too. Lastly, check their signatures, most of the active senior members keep it updated with the information you are looking for. If they put it in the sig, it's because they are happy with what works and want to share it. Until the next thing better comes along.
PS, yes, I don't post a lot and yes I'm still on stock. Running dual OS's on my fuze was easy, don't feel comfortable yet pulling the trigger on my Inspire, but I'm off for the summer soon, more time to spend on it.
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I'm not looking to find out what Rom is best, but to see what combinations of roms, kernels, and radios you guys are using. It's almost impossible to find an exact combo and even harder to dig thru the threads to see what people are using.
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I know you don't want to look through the threads, but that is kind of the requirement. Every rom, kernel, and radio is going to work differently on every phone. It's like buying to exact same lap tops with the same exact os and programs, and with out doing any thing, the next day one of them crashes.
To be honest, and as helpful as I can, the only way is read the last few posts in the thread, to see if there is any major bugs. Then flash the rom, kernel, and or radio and test them out on your phone.
louslugger15 said:
I'm not looking to find out what Rom is best, but to see what combinations of roms, kernels, and radios you guys are using. It's almost impossible to find an exact combo and even harder to dig thru the threads to see what people are using.
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That's the the thing, though. There'll be at least one person running every possible combo out there.
One will say it's da bomb, another will say it froze his phone.
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I know you don't want to look through the threads, but that is kind of the requirement. Every rom, kernel, and radio is going to work differently on every phone. It's like buying to exact same lap tops with the same exact os and programs, and with out doing any thing, the next day one of them crashes.
To be honest, and as helpful as I can, the only way is read the last few posts in the thread, to see if there is any major bugs. Then flash the rom, kernel, and or radio and test them out on your phone.
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+1 and ditto
What is the main point/purpose/question of starting this thread?
You say you don't want to find the "best" rom (granted your thread title does have the word ROM in it).....so you are trying to find the best combo correct? (which still depends on what you are trying to get out of the combo)
........And like its been said.....really just look at the sigs and the more "serious" devotees will have their ROM and more info all written in the sig (which is a two-fold thing 1. it promotes the work 2. for these type of questions (to give a sort-of consensus)
But that doesn't necessarily mean it will solve whatever you are trying to get out of this thread.......
because everything changes so rapidly, you have to keep up......or basically find the "best" parts that you won't/don't change much (like radios, etc.) and find the one you like.......then focus on the changeables like Rom, etc. because your view on roms change more frequently than the others.
All these types of topics are very subjective....and takes reading to find a "decent" answer to your question.....in the end your surrounded by a great community (XDA)...but ultimately your alone
If you get what im saying...
You could do the popularity thing......see whats in the sigs, and do that
If it works good for you.....don't worry about whats "best/better".......because you won't know whats better, you will just know what is working good for YOU (which is all that matters)
Lastly....to "answer your question".....lol......read my sig :-D
When I'm stock the option will work but as soon as I flash a kernel they wont stay on. Any help appreciated.
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When I'm stock the option will work but as soon as I flash a kernel they wont stay on. Any help appreciated.
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Do a little reading in the UCLA3 upgrade and kernel threads. You will find it is a problem with the UCLA3 Kernel(s) that has not been resolved as of yet. Some seem to have the problem and others claim that they do not.
It's not Kurnel or Radio/Modem, if you go to Settings/Display/Touch Key Light Duration/ and choose Always ON and it does not stay on, IT MEANS ROM PROBLEM!
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It's not Kurnel or Radio/Modem, if you go to Settings/Display/Touch Key Light Duration/ and choose Always ON and it does not stay on, IT MEANS ROM PROBLEM!
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wrong bud, means kernel problem
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wrong bud, means kernel problem
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I am learning, but logically it is the ROM and actually I've just flashed what he is saying with the ROM I use and no problem.
odeccacccp said:
I am learning, but logically it is the ROM and actually I've just flashed what he is saying with the ROM I use and no problem.
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Again, just because your phone is not having the issue does not mean everyone's phone is not. These phones act differently for different people. It IS a known problem that SOME people experience with the UCLA3 KERNEL. I have posted before that I have tried the stock ROM as well as the one I am on now (Alien) and others have posted while using different ROMS and the problem always comes from the UCLA3 kernels.
If you are one of the people that don't have a problem...that's great...but don't try to tell others that they are wrong about something just because it isn't happening to you, that just doesn't help the situation.
Take some time to read through the forum(s) and you will see what really is a problem -vs- what people make into a problem because they are not doing something correct. The "touchlight" always on problem started the day of the last OTA update (for many people) and has continued. I am still hoping a fix will be found for those of us that have this problem with the UCLA3 kernels.
It is more than likely a problem with the lights driver in the new kernel, but until an actual MOD has the problem it might be difficult to create a fix for it. My theory is that "maybe" the old lights driver(s) can be added to replace the lights drivers in the newwer UCLA3 kernel and maybe that would work...but its just a theory.
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Again, just because your phone is not having the issue does not mean everyone's phone is not. These phones act differently for different people. It IS a known problem that SOME people experience with the UCLA3 KERNEL. I have posted before that I have tried the stock ROM as well as the one I am on now (Alien) and others have posted while using different ROMS and the problem always comes from the UCLA3 kernels.
If you are one of the people that don't have a problem...that's great...but don't try to tell others that they are wrong about something just because it isn't happening to you, that just doesn't help the situation.
Take some time to read through the forum(s) and you will see what really is a problem -vs- what people make into a problem because they are not doing something correct. The "touchlight" always on problem started the day of the last OTA update (for many people) and has continued. I am still hoping a fix will be found for those of us that have this problem with the UCLA3 kernels.
It is more than likely a problem with the lights driver in the new kernel, but until an actual MOD has the problem it might be difficult to create a fix for it. My theory is that "maybe" the old lights driver(s) can be added to replace the lights drivers in the newwer UCLA3 kernel and maybe that would work...but its just a theory.
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you said/wrote what I was too lazy to lol. Yup, because he's new (technically he joined first but ur more active), he doesn't know this was an existing problem.. He'll learn as he goes along
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Again, just because your phone is not having the issue does not mean everyone's phone is not. These phones act differently for different people. It IS a known problem that SOME people experience with the UCLA3 KERNEL. I have posted before that I have tried the stock ROM as well as the one I am on now (Alien) and others have posted while using different ROMS and the problem always comes from the UCLA3 kernels.
If you are one of the people that don't have a problem...that's great...but don't try to tell others that they are wrong about something just because it isn't happening to you, that just doesn't help the situation.
Take some time to read through the forum(s) and you will see what really is a problem -vs- what people make into a problem because they are not doing something correct. The "touchlight" always on problem started the day of the last OTA update (for many people) and has continued. I am still hoping a fix will be found for those of us that have this problem with the UCLA3 kernels.
It is more than likely a problem with the lights driver in the new kernel, but until an actual MOD has the problem it might be difficult to create a fix for it. My theory is that "maybe" the old lights driver(s) can be added to replace the lights drivers in the newwer UCLA3 kernel and maybe that would work...but its just a theory.
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Tltr lol
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Same Issue here, I have it set to "Always On" and they come on as they please. I hope they can fix it soon!
Since things have been slowing down here a bit, it seems like a lot of people are trying to help by throwing out ideas on how we might fix/get a working JB in the CM10.1 Rom #8 Dev thread. And while it's with good intent, it does cause a bit of clutter in their thread and probably wastes a bit of their time trying to explain why some idea wont work or what you may be misunderstanding.
So I figured, why don't we have a thread here were we can spit ball ideas and help each other figure out why those ideas might not work/ where we might have some gaps in our knowledge. Like if someone asks about inquiring into baseband differences or something, a lot of us who aren't really developers still know that the issue atm is more about getting our mdm6600 to turn on initialize etc. Maybe that way, the next time a project comes around like this, there will be more people capable of helping the effort. Plus it should be kind of fun and kill some time while we wait for our awesome devs to figure it out. And maybe just maybe someone will come up with something that can aid in solving our JB woes.
Anyway I'll go first. Not too long ago tonyp posted a hackfest like rom source. So we once again have a hackfest ish source code. So why couldn't we just take the hwcomposer module etc. from the working CM10.1 Rom #8, then take a diff of that kernels symbol table compared to the hackfest one and add all the missing symbols, recompile the hackfest kernel with MODVERSIONS=n, forcibly load it and see where that gets us? I mean the worst that will happen is kernel panics i would assume?