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Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn
Is this for real? Please provide some proof you work for samsung.
Sooooo...what's the hold up with Froyo, John?
wonner said:
Sooooo...what's the hold up with Froyo, John?
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I honestly hope you are authentic. It is about time that the people who make the phones embrace the superior developmental process.
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I honestly hope you are authentic. It is about time that the people who make the phones embrace the superior developmental process.
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Or at least attempt to embrace some kind of something. That'd be a start for Samsung.
Sounds like BS advertising to get people in seats at this event.
Interesting...go through his previous posts once, not exactly his first time posting on the forums...
So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention).
The link doesn't work....
Troll.....
Yeah, sounds troll to me, but it will be nice for them to show here...and learn a bit of how things are done
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Real
Yes I am the real deal, I am a developer/social media analyst. I don't mind taking a picture of my badge or something to prove my credibility.
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Yes I am the real deal, I am a developer/social media analyst. I don't mind taking a picture of my badge or something to prove my credibility.
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I think he's legit, folks.
If you are indeed an analyst for Samsung, welcome to XDA. I'm sure you've already noticed by now that there is a lot of cynicism both for Samsung and your claim of being an employee. Simple reason for this is that most everyone here feels that Samsung has ignored their pleas for help, didn’t deliver promised upgrades, and left millions of Galaxy S owners with buggy software/hardware, etc.
If your goal is to reach out to Samsung users at the grassroots level, you're in the right place. However, you also have a tough job ahead of you. The disenfranchisement runs deep and it will take a lot of effort to fix.
Here are some suggestions for you to escalate internally within Samsung:
1. Support the development efforts of the XDA developers. There are many talented people working quite hard to customize, fix and generally improve Samsung firmware. Samsung should make some effort to provide these developers with source code, tools, and help.
2. Take an honest and upfront approach to product defects that find their way onto store shelves (e.g. GPS, battery, etc). I guarantee the cost of addressing the problem will be fully offset by the shift in customer loyalty. An unreliable product is perceived many times worse if the OEM denies or ignores the issues.
3. Set a release schedule with carrier partners and stick to it. Apple has set the benchmark for frequent over the wire software updates. Android applications are updated with fixes and improvements on a regular basis. In stark contrast, our firmware lags far behind Google’s releases and FOTA is failing more than it’s working. This has to change. Samsung needs to push out regular firmware updates that are applied seamlessly without loss of data. Forget FOTA and do it like Apple does OTW (over the wire).
4. Allow users the option of switching to AOSP. Some people like TouchWiz and some don’t. Give them the choice.
BTW, in addition to being an informed consumer, I work in the mobile industry. I know a fair amount about how it should work. The Samsung Galaxy product suite is performing very well but the real question is how long will it last. Loyalty takes effort to maintain and is easy to lose.
P.S. I may very well be at SXSW but I won’t know for sure until a week or so beforehand.
I understand I have a lot of work ahead of me. As I said before, Im here to establish a partnership with XDA developers. Inbox me to let me know if your going to be there so i can arrange somewhere to meet.
If he was legit, one of the Admins would be announcing that SamsungJohn is a rep from Samsung; he wouldn't be doing it himself as a post in the forum.
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If he was legit, one of the Admins would be announcing that SamsungJohn is a rep from Samsung; he wouldn't be doing it himself as a post in the forum.
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^^^^^^ that's a good point!
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I understand I have a lot of work ahead of me. As I said before, Im here to establish a partnership with XDA developers. Inbox me to let me know if your going to be there so i can arrange somewhere to meet.
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If you are in fact telling the truth, I warmly welcome you to the true birthplace of the galaxy s.
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If he was legit, one of the Admins would be announcing that SamsungJohn is a rep from Samsung; he wouldn't be doing it himself as a post in the forum.
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Why? There's quite a bit of speculation in your claim--why would he have to go through admins to post here?
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Kubernetes said:
Why? There's quite a bit of speculation in your claim--why would he have to go through admins to post here?
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You would think that someone who is in the position he claims to be in, would come in a little more professional than just a random post.
He said he has been lurking the forums and likes what he sees. So he has also seen all the dissapointment that is running through these forums as well.
If you were in his position would you not want to come in here, with support and proof of who you are? (there is multiple threads of the same post in other categories, all have been asking for proof for hours)
I'm not saying hes not who he says he is, just think he could have introduced himself a little better.
Guys, do a little research. Pretty easy to figure out that he is either very thorough or he's actually legit.
Maybe we should tell him that it is a welcome first step to see him here.
He is an analyst so he's going to have to escalate pretty far up the food chain to be effective. Hope you're a good communicator John.
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Dear fellow XDA-ers,
What do you think of the following link:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270904716829?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Dear fellow XDA-ers,
What do you think of the following link:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/270904716829?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Personally, I'd never send my phone to anyone. I'd say thats a reasonable charge for the service, but what if he bricks it? Better yet, what if he KEEPS it?
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Personally, I'd never send my phone to anyone. I'd say thats a reasonable charge for the service, but what if he bricks it? Better yet, what if he KEEPS it?
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Actually, is it right to give this kinda service?? Its like making money off all the hard work of devs and chefs for yourself.
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WTF
he got positve feedback too!!!!!
how lazy are ppl to send a phone to an unknown android developer to root them phone???
he could even be fair in asking money to unleash the beast... but DA**! it's so easy and cool o it yourself...
by the way.. that's the world
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he got positve feedback too!!!!!
how lazy are ppl to send a phone to an unknown android developer to root them phone???
he could even be fair in asking money to unleash the beast... but DA**! it's so easy and cool o it yourself...
by the way.. that's the world
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Yes this is one weird world..
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Well, he's just offering a service. I don't see why we should blame him. I'm the kind of hacker interested in tweaking my phone. I'm sure other people don't care.
In other field (cooking for example), I'm sure I'd be considered as a lazy bastard. I bet many people around here are in the exact same situation.
In economics, we call that preferences and we take those as data, we don't judge them. Let them be free.
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Well, he's just offering a service. I don't see why we should blame him. I'm the kind of hacker interested in tweaking my phone. I'm sure other people don't care.
In other field (cooking for example), I'm sure I'd be considered as a lazy bastard. I bet many people around here are in the exact same situation.
In economics, we call that preferences and we take those as data, we don't judge them. Let them be free.
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The problem is he is making money off of work that is not his. This right here is the main reason developers are starting to keep things to themselfs and select freinds and not releasing it to the public.
Guys when you see something like this just report it to the site.
Meh...as long as they offer a legit service, why not?
How many times a day do you pay someone else to do something for you?
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I wonder how Stallman would answer to that...
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This is pretty much the same as people paying to get their PSPs, DSes, PS3s, Xboxes or anything else, hacked/modified. He's not selling the mods and roms, he's just selling his service. I feel that it's okay.
This reminds me of people who sell instructions with rooting tools or xbox, wii, psp mod files that they have found online for free but this guy isn't actually selling the free software he made sure he mentioned you are buying his services which would be rooting and hooking up the phones for lazy asses who don't want to take the few extra minutes to google the stuff they need (which I think is half the fun; getting to know about my phone and seeing it do stuff that the manufacturer says can't be done...) but anyway it's their money if they want to pay for something that can be easily done I guess that's on them. BUT I would think better of the seller if these tools he is using were developed by him instead of using the tools that other developers had put alot of time and work into and the developers themselves give it away because that's what they love to do and aren't getting a dime for all of the work they've done and then the help they freely give when answering our questions over and over for people like him to turn around and profit off of their hard work that they aren't even profiting off of. It makes me so grateful that most people are not like this seller. He really is profiting off of other people's hard work that he got for free which is totally greedy and all of that kind of stuff.
Thank you to all of our devs who put alot of time into helping us make our phones beyond awsome!
I was thinking of sending him a message and ask him which rom and tools does he use or if would he use or a screenshot for a specific phone just to be nosy.
People make money off others hard work every day. It's called Capitalism.
Don't hate because this guy is making money off of others ignorance.
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People make money off others hard work every day. It's called Capitalism.
Don't hate because this guy is making money off of others ignorance.
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Yeah well it doesn't fly here. You use the work of others and charge for it and things happen. One should never steal a hackers work lol
And a great example of why some of the greatest mods are no longer posted publicly and only shared privately between trusted developers.
As far as I know, developers usually allow such uses. I'm sure they are well aware of the possibilties offered by their licences. I personnaly use a BSD licence for most of my programs and encourage those behaviors.
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Yeah well it doesn't fly here. You use the work of others and charge for it and things happen.
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When your car breaks down, do you bring it to a mechanic?
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When your car breaks down, do you bring it to a mechanic?
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No I don't personally. There is a big difference. They are not using someone else hardworking that is given away for free. There are rules you agree to when you join the site. And that includes asking to use the work of others. And no developer will allow someone to make money off of a tool they give away for free
the ONLY way i could see what he is doing as ok is if he was donating a portion of the profits to the devs of the work he uses.
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And no developer will allow someone to make money off of a tool they give away for free
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This is just wrong. You should learn what free software is (not as in free beer but as in free speech).
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Shrat said:
This is just wrong. You should learn what free software is (not as in free beer but as in free speech).
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I know what it means. Been doing this for many years. You should learn what respect is. That is what developers deserve and it is not given when you steal their free software to charge for.
In the end this has been covered many times. If someone is charging for the work of others then report them and they will be banned from here. As for other sites just report them as these devices are released with free licences charging for them is illegal.
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Hi
Does anyone know any good ways to make money online / (get a job) ?
Any help will be appreciated
Yup. Drop shipping. I've done it myself and you can earn a lot of money, but it's HARD work! If you're smart like me (just kidding) you can do it without using a single penny.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_shipping
Another way is to start your own company. Find something your good at (web design, IT, graphics, programming, even physical stuff like sewing) and sell it online. It's slow (trust me I'm doing it right now). But once it picks up you will make good money.
Another option is writing for blogs. Sites like about.com pay up to $500/month. Not a whole lot but that + another job is pretty nice
When you say Another way is to start your own company can you suggest any free or good companies to get the website up?
Also when you say I could blogs can you suggest any good sites?
Thanks for the replies
You could always develop ROM-s. Doing something useful for the community and getting some money through donations. It's not an easy way to get rich, though
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You can offer simple services on Fiverr for about $5 each.
Also, you can start promoting clickbank campaigns through a blog, website, ect..
Become a picker and sell on ebay
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When you say Another way is to start your own company can you suggest any free or good companies to get the website up?
Also when you say I could blogs can you suggest any good sites?
Thanks for the replies
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Do you mean hosting and stuff? Or design? Free hosting is easy, domains are never free, and free design is normally crappy.
I don't want to start advertising for companies on the forums and have the thread closed so PM if you want some links to some good places to start.
As for blogs. Goolge's own Blogger will give you a free blog, If you like tech you can volunteer to write for techalertsupport (good way to get your name out there), YouTube is a great place to - setup a channel for reviews and the sort. I started one and it's not even overly active but once I started putting Ad's on it I actually make some decent money from it.
I would suggest trying different things and going with the one you like the best. I tried focusing on one thing from the beginning and that was a mistake. It didn't take off and I had to go start something else all from scratch. If you start a blog, YouTube Channel, and Small Company (like Design for example), you can always drop the ones that aren't making any money.
As far as a company goes I don't know what the laws are in you country, but in Canada you can start a company with no license as long as it's under you name and not a company name.
Another good place to advertise is craigslist and Kijiji. I get most of my clients from there, and it's free to use.
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Become a picker and sell on ebay
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Or if you know how to bid well you can get stuff ON ebay for cheap and sell it for profit ON ebay I know someone that did this, worked pretty well for them.
Youtube videos are also a great way to make money, as you're bound to get views. And money comes from advertising Google ads - you'll need an Adsense account to do so.
Yes that's true!
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I should correct my earlier post a bit: You CAN get a free domain if you are in Canada. A bunch of companies (Rogers, Google, some others) came together to help small businesses. Their site is www.gybo.ca. I forgot all about it, but it's what I used for my site
The internet is full of money. I personally flash cdma phones to diff carriers for a living. We root rom ect ect.
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Wow that's pretty cool! Since you mention that, is it possible to use a sprint phone on virgin mobile network?
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Hey Shogunrisk!
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It sure is
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Wow that's pretty cool! Since you mention that, is it possible to use a sprint phone on virgin mobile network?
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After talking with a bunch of friends who like the look of my phone after flashing a custom ROM, I got to thinking:
What if phone shops offered a ROM flashing service?
Some people are unsure about the flashing process even after reading through the instructions. This would allow people, who due to worries cant flash their phones, to have a custom ROM
Thoughts?
It would void the warranty tho. I also doubt that many of the average Joes out there would actually care. Most people I know with a Galaxy device don't even have Kies on the pc and have not idea whatsoever about the version of Android they're running. They're still happy tho, so why bursting their bubble?
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It would void the warranty tho. I also doubt that many of the average Joes out there would actually care. Most people I know with a Galaxy device don't even have Kies on the pc and have not idea whatsoever about the version of Android they're running. They're still happy tho, so why bursting their bubble?
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Have it set for Pay-As-You-Go customers or people who bought a second hand phone. Depending on the ROM, it can feel like having a completely different device
I highly doubt that you would ever get a major store to offer it. Your best bet would be to find a small store (or make one) that does that kind of thing and give tutorials and such on the devices
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I highly doubt that you would ever get a major store to offer it. Your best bet would be to find a small store (or make one) that does that kind of thing and give tutorials and such on the devices
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Y'know what, you have just given me the best idea
I've always thought I was just gonna, well, stumble through life. Advertised right I reckon I could do this. Just a little store somewhere (local shopping center) and my netbook.
"Bored of the same phone. I can give it a makeover with a custom ROM!"
Hell, if I can do this then I'll even use the XDA banner on the store
Thank you so much for the idea
There is a little shop here in my town that offers jail breaking service and root on some phones. I asked about doing me OG evo They told me they didn't do HTC phones because the root was unstable. obviously they were wrong so yeah it'd be a good idea if you really know what you're doing on a variety of devices
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There is a little shop here in my town that offers jail breaking service and root on some phones. I asked about doing me OG evo They told me they didn't do HTC phones because the root was unstable. obviously they were wrong so yeah it'd be a good idea if you really know what you're doing on a variety of devices
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I'm gonna look into it. Im comfortable with HTC and Sony Ericsson at the moment
I live in Houston one of the biggest cities and there are several small phone shops in which some of them do offer some root/modifying services. I have been seriously considering opening up my own small business. I already make money fixing screens, some hardware components and rooting/flashing roms on the devices of people I know. It all started with me posting pics of what I was doing to my own devices. Then the messages just started pouring in. I think a small place could work if a strong enough reputation was built up.
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I live in Houston one of the biggest cities and there are several small phone shops in which some of them do offer some root/modifying services. I have been seriously considering opening up my own small business. I already make money fixing screens, some hardware components and rooting/flashing roms on the devices of people I know. It all started with me posting pics of what I was doing to my own devices. Then the messages just started pouring in. I think a small place could work if a strong enough reputation was built up.
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At the weekend I'm going to ask some of the stall owners at the local shopping center how much it costs.
To use the XDA logo would I have to ask the site owner? Just since all these custom ROMs come from XDA it's only right that I show credit
Yeah, you'd have to ask the owners. I don't know that they'd let you use their logo for a shop that they don't actually have any oversight with but it can't hurt to ask.
Yea If somebody had got the phone messed up or didn't like the service they might blame xda
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Yea If somebody had got the phone messed up or didn't like the service they might blame xda
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Anybody have any ideas what the liability would be? What happens when we (this store) bricks someones phone?
I think that liability makes it pretty cost prohibitive, even if it happens once in one thousand, even if it was going to break anyway and just happened to correspond with flashing.
I don't think an xda banner would really be a good idea. One wrong thing could blow up into something grand and the consumer would blame the entire xda community. As far as liability goes; I'm not sure how insurance companies would look at it but my idea was to keep a seperate pool of money. For any instances of someone's device messing up.
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I didnt mean it as an "XDA Shop" Just an advertisement of where the ROMs are from.
As far as problems go, the vast majority are reversable. Ive gotten my Play stuck in bootloops and soft-bricks innumerable times now and just having a copy of the stock firmware handy works wonders
I am willing to give a reward of a bonafide Windows 8 Pro x86/x64 retail license to the person who successfully solves the problem of getting the G2X Qualcomm mdm6600 radio/modem fully working with the CM10.1 or stock LG ICS kernel or the kernel that is being worked on by AdamPK, Mazout360, etc. If I determine that more than one person has made a significant contribution to achieving that, I will give the same reward to them too. But, before I make that official, I want opinions about doing that.
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The code required to achieve success must be fully documented and publicly available to enable others to use it successfully too.
UPDATE
The poll ended overwhelmingly in favour of me rewarding development which gets the Qualcomm mdm6600 modem/radio working fully with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel.
There's no expectation or obligation of anyone to accept the reward of a bonafide Windows 8 Pro x86/x64 license for accomplishing the development goal.
The reward will be awarded after the goal is accomplished which is proven by the full/complete operation of the G2X and its Qualcomm mdm6600 radio/modem with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel and the submission, to me, of documentation of the method used, in the form of fully commented source code which can be understood by a person competent in the programming language used so that it can be used for verification and for further development.
If there is a dispute as to who ultimately accomplished the goal of getting the Qualcomm mdm6600 modem/radio working fully with an ICS/CM9/JB/CM10.1 ROM and Kernel, it will be resolved by examination of relevant documentation which I will use to determine the reward recipient(s). If more than one person, determined by me exclusively, contributed substantially to achieving the goal, each of those persons will be eligible to receive the same reward. If anyone who is eligible to receive the reward doesn't want it they may forego receiving it.
The content of this post is subject to change due to errors and/or ommissions and/or illegality.
37 views so far and only 2 votes? WTH! Apathy?
Core Memory said:
37 views so far and only 2 votes? WTH! Apathy?
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Well, you're essentially spamming people. What did you expect?
This won't incentivize cooperation which looks necessary to me.
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im about ready to just buy another g2x and send tonyp my old one lol
In another phone section [Galaxy S Blaze] everyone chipped in to buy a developer a phone. I would totally do it for a seasoned developer who can likely fix the radio issue. A G2x isn't really that expensive.
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I voted no just because i think it will take more than one person on the other hand if a random badass dev wants to just make it happen really quick then ill change my vote. P. S Ali ba your signature is pretty freaking funny
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Bulletblitz27 said:
In another phone section [Galaxy S Blaze] everyone chipped in to buy a developer a phone. I would totally do it for a seasoned developer who can likely fix the radio issue. A G2x isn't really that expensive.
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i agree. they go for around 150 on craigslist, so if we had 6 people donate $25 just one time out of their friday paycheck, we might be able to really get somewhere with our phone developmentally, AND we could say we did it as a community which i think would be pretty freakin cool.:good:
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I voted no just because i think it will take more than one person on the other hand if a random badass dev wants to just make it happen really quick then ill change my vote. P. S Ali ba your signature is pretty freaking funny
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No changing votes.
BuddhaTeh1337 said:
i agree. they go for around 150 on craigslist, so if we had 6 people donate $25 just one time out of their friday paycheck, we might be able to really get somewhere with our phone developmentally, AND we could say we did it as a community which i think would be pretty freakin cool.:good:
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That would be helpful but how would that be accomplished? Regardless, I have decided what my contribution will be and how it will be awarded.
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Well, you're essentially spamming people. What did you expect?
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A thread that people can post to is not spam but off-topic posts to a thread are.
Does anyone know
if buying a dev a phone would even work? Are there devs willing to work for phones like that?
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if buying a dev a phone would even work? Are there devs willing to work for phones like that?
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I suppose that, if the developer is already doing it, but they don't have a G2X such as tonyp, they would welcome getting one to enable them to do their development much more easily. I think tonyp well deserves getting a G2X for his effort. I don't know about anyone else who doesn't have a G2X who is contributing as much as he has and still is. Wouldn't it be helpful to ask him and, if he wants one, easiest to donate to him directly so that he can buy the phone? I am certain that, if that happened, he would be very pleased.
Unfortunately you can't count me in. I'm lacking the time and probably kernel knowledge to do that.
You need someone who got deep Linux kernel experience and skills.
Btw, offering someone like that a windows license is a little strange
(and just to brag about it: I got plenty of free win 8 licenses thanks to Microsoft MSDN aa ).
A potential dev has to have the phone. It won't work without one, that would take way more time.
The problem with donating a phone upfront is that it introduces expectations. If the dev fails it's always a bad feeling for both sides, that's why there are many devs who don't really like receiving phones.
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I'll throw in the $5 that was donated to me lately.
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Unfortunately you can't count me in. I'm lacking the time and probably kernel knowledge to do that.
You need someone who got deep Linux kernel experience and skills.
Btw, offering someone like that a windows license is a little strange
(and just to brag about it: I got plenty of free win 8 licenses thanks to Microsoft MSDN aa ).
A potential dev has to have the phone. It won't work without one, that would take way more time.
The problem with donating a phone upfront is that it introduces expectations. If the dev fails it's always a bad feeling for both sides, that's why there are many devs who don't really like receiving phones.
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Offering a Windows 8 license isn't that strange even in the Android/Linux community as many use Windows for some purposes that Android/Linux don't fulfil. The reward wouldn't be given until it was "earned". (And, also, but not to brag about it, I was also a member of MSDNAA but I've retired from that now.)
Kernel development/hacking is very difficult so anyone who would do it would have to have the phone anyway so getting the phone one already owns isn't an incentive. You're correct about giving a phone upfront implies that there is the expectation of a beneficial payback to whomever donates the phone which is a good reason not to give one and not to want one.
I am still committed to the reward I am considering offering. So far, the majority are in favour of it. When the poll is over, I will do what the majority wants.
We'd probably need some dev who already works for LG or some other company to get the radio working.. or as stated before, some who understands android coding extremely well such.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC work with LG? If so can't he try to contact them about the kernel not supporting the G2x. I refuse to give up even though it seems hopeless at this point lol
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I sent an email asking for assistance to someone at NVIDIA who does supervisory work with Tegra and Linux programming. I hope he replies.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't RC work with LG? If so can't he try to contact them about the kernel not supporting the G2x. I refuse to give up even though it seems hopeless at this point lol
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He doesn't work for LG but he is in good terms with the developers at LG.
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