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OK, I've searched for days to try and find a fast, stable, sense-ui (Theme-wise) ROM that works on the HTC Hero. I've found tons of ROMS for the G1, I've tried the CyangenMod 6 ROM, I've spent hours searching for a good ROM. CM6 is a bit faster, but occasionally it will hang. (A bit better than stock 2.1) I don't like that a lot of apps don't work (After downloading an app and installing it, you can't click open or find it in your apps list) and I don't like that the fact that you can't group your contacts or have the Sprint/HTC widgets work. (The only widgets I use are the clock and the email, messages, and voice mail widgets that show how many you received.
Please let me know if you use one like that you can recommend.
FingerprintDiVA said:
OK, I've searched for days to try and find a fast, stable, sense-ui (Theme-wise) ROM that works on the HTC Hero. I've found tons of ROMS for the G1, I've tried the CyangenMod 6 ROM, I've spent hours searching for a good ROM. CM6 is a bit faster, but occasionally it will hang. (A bit better than stock 2.1) I don't like that a lot of apps don't work (After downloading an app and installing it, you can't click open or find it in your apps list) and I don't like that the fact that you can't group your contacts or have the Sprint/HTC widgets work. (The only widgets I use are the clock and the email, messages, and voice mail widgets that show how many you received.
Please let me know if you use one like that you can recommend.
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For a good sense UI rom I would go with Zen rom. You can find it here.
I've been using this rom NFX-Hero 2.2.1 by nfinitefx45. After playing with other roms and the cyanogen ones, i've come back to this one. I've been running this for a couple weeks and it's pretty smooth and stable. So give it a try. Also, nfinitefx45 is one dedicated developer, he actually visits the thread often and help with answering questions, solving problems/bugs!
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I've been using this rom NFX-Hero 2.2.1 by nfinitefx45. After playing with other roms and the cyanogen ones, i've come back to this one. I've been running this for a couple weeks and it's pretty smooth and stable. So give it a try. Also, nfinitefx45 is one dedicated developer, he actually visits the thread often and help with answering questions, solving problems/bugs!
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+1 nfinite's roms are put together well and are fast yet also solid.
I'm using the cyanogen rom. CM6. It's actually running android 2.2 (froyo) instead of 2.1, and I think it has a better keyboard and runs very well. I use the "digital clock widget", and the weather and "news and weather" widget, I think both are available in the Market, but News and weather came with the rom. I miss the bookmarks and calendar widgets from Sense, but its not worth going back. As far as voicmail goes I'm using google voice to handle my it, and there are widgets for it too.
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I'm using the cyanogen rom. CM6. It's actually running android 2.2 (froyo) instead of 2.1, and I think it has a better keyboard and runs very well. I use the "digital clock widget", and the weather and "news and weather" widget, I think both are available in the Market, but News and weather came with the rom. I miss the bookmarks and calendar widgets from Sense, but its not worth going back. As far as voicmail goes I'm using google voice to handle my it, and there are widgets for it too.
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I use CM6 as well, and prefer it over any sense rom but the OP wanted sense so I thought I'd humor myself
The CM6 with CyanogenSense theme looks and feels like my stock Hero, but runs way faster and has a better battery life. Zen makes a great rom, bit imo the CM6 is the way to go.
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I've decided to try making a theme using the tutorial thread number 667951. (I can't post links yet I don't think, so again I'll just use this work around.) That being said, I've decided to stick with NFX-HERO for my ROM since the only thing wrong with it is the boot loop issue which I'm going to try starting from scratch to fix it today. So, the tutorial says that a good starting point for a theme would be to get an existing compatible theme and modify that one. (Great idea in my opinion. I've done this in the past with other phones I had.) Does anyone have an idea of a theme that would be useful for me to start off with? I want to change a lot of things on the phone, so the more intricate the theme is, probably the better.
Also, on a side note, if I remember correctly this thread had 3 pages before the site went down. I'm not sure why it was truncated. If any mods know why, please let me know.
FingerprintDiVA said:
I've decided to try making a theme using the tutorial thread number 667951. (I can't post links yet I don't think, so again I'll just use this work around.) That being said, I've decided to stick with NFX-HERO for my ROM since the only thing wrong with it is the boot loop issue which I'm going to try starting from scratch to fix it today. So, the tutorial says that a good starting point for a theme would be to get an existing compatible theme and modify that one. (Great idea in my opinion. I've done this in the past with other phones I had.) Does anyone have an idea of a theme that would be useful for me to start off with? I want to change a lot of things on the phone, so the more intricate the theme is, probably the better.
Also, on a side note, if I remember correctly this thread had 3 pages before the site went down. I'm not sure why it was truncated. If any mods know why, please let me know.
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We lost about 2 days posts when the site crashed
i used a theme called blue echo to learn where most things go. and in his rom there is a great vending apk that has the market themed as well. then i took a dialer from one of godzen's and moved it all to compare to my stock 2.1 files and made it work with a rom i am currently running. im just now getting into looking at the apps like clock etc but that was a good start for me since there is alot covered there.
OK, let me ask you this. It'll clear up some things I need to know on compatibility. What makes a theme compatible with one ROM and not another? Likewise, what makes an app compatible with one ROM and not another? Is it the structure? If so, how? I'm a computer programmer, but even though android phones are quite similar to a Linux system on a PC, I'm still not sure if I understand the compatibility issues behind themes.
Also, just so I don't have to post again to ask this in case it's relevant, are Blue Echo and GodZen's dialer compatible with NFX? I downloaded them, but it never said anything about NFX. Is NFX similar to Sprint's 2.1 in the sense that it will run any themes I make for NFX?
well the Rom im using is mostly stock so the framework and htc.resource files are the same. for say CM6 (and i havent looked into it just a example) may have say the status bar grey and i want black. in the stock i would change the statusbar_bkg file in the framework.apk folder but in CM6 it may be in the same plae with a different name or the same name in a different place or just non existent all together. as for if they are compatible the only way to know is to try. the only way to know for sure is to open them compare and replace what you need in the correct order. also i use metamorph to apply themes. you can find it in the market. but the Vending.apk theme must be pushed with adb for some reason or it will crash the market.
matter of fact now that i think of it, the Rom im using is about to incorporate NFX. go here and you an see my post where i put what i transfereed over and they should work as i think NFX is mostly a stock (so to speak) Rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731404&page=41
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I've found tons of ROMS for the G1,
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You are using a Hero, right? Not a G1? That would explain the boot loop issue you had with NFX.
NFX-HERO was listed in the Hero ROMs section. You sure it's only for G1? Would another phone's ROM actually even flash to a different phone properly? I mean it works, but with boot loops.
Yes they will but may it may not work. And I'm sure that Rom is for a hero and I would flash over and look for myself but I have been threw like 5 Rom's today and just got it back normal lol.
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OK, so today I had a chance to wipe and flash the NFX-HERO ROM again. Now the phone seems a bit more stable. I can boot it and it boots all the way up fine and I can click "Shutdown Phone" and have it shutdown without freezing and rebooting, but now right now I've spotted only one flaw. When I use the phone in disk drive mode, but then pull the USB out of the phone without switching it back to charge only, and it freezes and reboots on me. (This happened last time.) I've also noticed that the phone gets increasingly more unstable as time goes on, so I wouldn't doubt that it would do this even more later on.
Correction, no matter what I do, to remove the USB when I use it as a disk drive, the phone freezes and reboots.
Update again: I decided to use RegawMod instead. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661991) It's super fast, no bugs from what I can see, highly compatible, and it looks slick! I even used a mod to turn my dialer pink. lol I can see this being my ROM of choice for a long time. The only thing I didn't like was that it was lacking the Google Navigation tools, so I installed GoogleApps.apk (If you're looking for this file, just Google GoogleApps.apk) from another ROM and rebooted me phone (So it would show up) and then it worked just fine. I'm not sure why it isn't showing local listings for destinations first, but that may be just because it didn't catch the GPS location right off the bat. I did set my location settings to being shared.
There is a pink theme in 2.1 catalog if i remember right. If you like pink that might be a good start for you to move the files around to see how they are built.
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NFX-HERO was listed in the Hero ROMs section. You sure it's only for G1? Would another phone's ROM actually even flash to a different phone properly? I mean it works, but with boot loops.
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Haha... I see how that can be misinterpreted.
Yeah, NFX is a Hero ROM, I was asking if you were trying to flash it on a G1, because if you were, it wouldn't work.
I like Regawmod 2.1. Fast with a nice dark theme. Based off of damage control. Just my two cents.
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Well i got my android phone a week ago (motorola defy) and ever since i've been finding out some lag and some minor problems with the apps running on it. The slide lock lagged but i installed a new one with widgets and it works just fine. Now i need some advices about other ones.
1. Youtube stock app for android 2.1: When the video loads and i move the bar within the place where the video had been loaded, but guess what, it gets stuck and does the loading again, and not like the windows browser's youtube...Is it suppose to be that way?
2. The keyboard is kind of hard to type with and i've been looking at some keyboard layouts but whenever i installed one, it said that it'll record whatever i'll type so in a way is it dangerous? because when i type my password on internet, does it get sent over to some website or is it totally safe?
3. Also I'm using launcher pro, it works fine but i was wondering if the stock launcher is working in the background as well which can cause lag along with launcher pro?
4.Also my stock browser laggs sometimes when it's zoomed in. So i would need some suggestions about another faster browser?
Thanks for any kind of help and advice
funny, i expected something from you guys as my questions are one of the common questions...or is someone can't be bothered here to help me out? ...
shad0wboss said:
Well i got my android phone a week ago (motorola defy) and ever since i've been finding out some lag and some minor problems with the apps running on it. The slide lock lagged but i installed a new one with widgets and it works just fine. Now i need some advices about other ones.
1. Youtube stock app for android 2.1: When the video loads and i move the bar within the place where the video had been loaded, but guess what, it gets stuck and does the loading again, and not like the windows browser's youtube...Is it suppose to be that way?
2. The keyboard is kind of hard to type with and i've been looking at some keyboard layouts but whenever i installed one, it said that it'll record whatever i'll type so in a way is it dangerous? because when i type my password on internet, does it get sent over to some website or is it totally safe?
3. Also I'm using launcher pro, it works fine but i was wondering if the stock launcher is working in the background as well which can cause lag along with launcher pro?
4.Also my stock browser laggs sometimes when it's zoomed in. So i would need some suggestions about another faster browser?
Thanks for any kind of help and advice
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1. No idea...
2. Its safe, no worries, slideit is imo the best keyboard. But there are a lot of alternatives.
3. The stock launcher is in sleep I assume, with Home Switcher you can swop. When only 2 or 3 launchers installed your system doesnt lag. Or you can freeze it with titanium backup, not sure if it can do any harm when you freeze your stock launcher.
4. Try miren browser, it is really good.
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thanks alot for your help, really appreciated it.
About the youtube stock app, what i basically mean is that, when a youtube video on computer on any browser...is loaded completely (red color strip). You can freely move the circle thing within the red color stripped which basically mean that that part is loaded can be be watched freely. BUT with my stock youtube application, that's not how it works. If i move the cursor a bit, it just hangs there and then i have to start the video from the beginning, loading and alll that. So i wanted to know if there's a good alternative youtube app with cache? so that once the video is loaded (when connected to internet), you can watch it even if you have no internet connection at that time...
Guys can somebody help me out? I've flashed the very latest 3.32 firmware package from this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412618) and I've tried out both DarkForest and the very latest Elegancia ROMs. On each, the browser is absolutely awful, Xda for example takes forever to fully load before you are able to double tap to zoom and then scale the page up. And then when you do, the text goes unfocused for a second and then finally scales up appropriately. Also panning around the page tends to get a bit 'sticky'.
This is driving me nuts, the browser in Gingerbread was MUCH more fluid and text scaling was instantaneous. I've tried searching but no one seems to be reporting this issue. Please don't tell me that this is by design? It's really awful, I mainly use my phone for web browsing and ICS has ruined for me a previously enjoyable experience.
Does anyone have this same issue as me?
use google chrome
Browser is super smooth and is loading web pages fast. Perhaps you have high standards.
The only issue I have is, that if I click on a link within a different app, say gmail, it won't take me to the link, but rather the last page I had opened.
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Browser is super smooth and is loading web pages fast. Perhaps you have high standards.
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You didn't answer my question; are you seeing the weird unfocused and then scale up issue when you double tap?
Well, for me in Gingerbread, that NEVER happened, it was much much faster. And I shouldn't have to use Google Chrome, the point is HTC have broken something.
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The only issue I have is, that if I click on a link within a different app, say gmail, it won't take me to the link, but rather the last page I had opened.
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Yep, it's a bug with the stock Browser.
Also, can people say exactly which firmware version they are using? Maybe there is a problem with the latest one? I want to try every possible permutation to help get rid of this issue.
Also I found this thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550841
Seems like I'm not the only one to have seen this issue.
I have absolutely no issues with the ICS stock browser. Since I've tried it, it's the only one I use. I don't like HTC's take on it though.
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I have absolutely no issues with the ICS stock browser. Since I've tried it, it's the only one I use. I don't like HTC's take on it though.
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Are you saying that when you double tap to zoom, the text DOES NOT got fuzzy for you for a split second, before properly scaling up and into focus?
If it absolutely doesn't then I'd be very interested to know which firmware and rom you are using.
On Gingerbread you see, this fuzziness 'middle step' never occurred, it when straight into scale.
use a different browser, stock everything is lame I use a different launcher GO SMS for messaging and chrome for web
ICS Browser+
Try ICS Browser+ in the Play Store. I prefer using it over the stock one only because of the added functionality and features. Expanded Quick Controls and Gestures are awesome!
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Try ICS Browser+ in the Play Store. I prefer using it over the stock one only because of the added functionality and features. Expanded Quick Controls and Gestures are awesome!
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But does that fix the fuzziness on double tap zoom? I don't care about extra features really, I care about the rendering and the speed.
I haven't had any of the probs you mentioned. I've been using the ARHD 6.5.1 ROM for ICS. However, are you using the stock HTC Browser or the AOSP one? Its easy to confuse the two. The HTC Browser is 'stock' for an HTC phone but its NOT the real ICS browser that Google makes. Once I figured out how to get the AOSP one in my ROM over the HTC one, I've switched to that every time I loaded a new ROM. I feel that its better than the HTC one and I think its hardware accelerated too, but I could be wrong. There's another thread somewhere on how to switch the browser.apk files that I've posted in before. Maybe that could resolve your issue? Also it could be possible that those ROMs removed something or did a tweak that could be causing your prob too.
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I haven't had any of the probs you mentioned. I've been using the ARHD 6.5.1 ROM for ICS. However, are you using the stock HTC Browser or the AOSP one? Its easy to confuse the two. The HTC Browser is 'stock' for an HTC phone but its NOT the real ICS browser that Google makes. Once I figured out how to get the AOSP one in my ROM over the HTC one, I've switched to that every time I loaded a new ROM. I feel that its better than the HTC one and I think its hardware accelerated too, but I could be wrong. There's another thread somewhere on how to switch the browser.apk files that I've posted in before. Maybe that could resolve your issue? Also it could be possible that those ROMs removed something or did a tweak that could be causing your prob too.
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Well, I've just flashed LeeDroid, and it does exactly the same thing, so that's 3 roms now all with the same issue. I tried ICS Browser+ just now which I believe is pretty much the stock ICS AOSP browser, and it was the same deal. I also earlier found a flashable zip file which installs the AOSP Browser and I gave that a try, I still got the split second fuzziness on double tap or pinch to zoom.
I'm wondering if I might have had a bad firmware flash and it's broken something; I've tried re-flashing the latest ICS firmware but nothing improved. I think I'd like to go back to Gingerbread and start again, but I have no idea where the Gingerbread firmware can be found.
One other thing, do you use the 'fomat to fit screen / text reflow' option? I've noticed that turning it off speeds things up a bit, although there is still a slight moment of fuzziness during the zoom after double tap.
I've also got ICS installed on my HTC Desire and it does not have that issue, but it mentions in the changelog that a fix was applied. This leads me to thinking that it is a problem with the ICS version of WebKit. But, you say you don't have any issues, which is baffling. Which version of the ICS Firmware are you using?
What you're seeing is normal for ICS. The reason it does that is because it is rendering the page into an array of images - this is called a backing store. It is much easier to scale and transform an image than it is to redraw the page for every frame of a scroll or zoom animation. This makes for better frame rates during scrolling and zooming, at the cost of that momentary pixelation when you zoom in. A lot of people whined about the non-smooth scrolling in older versions so I guess they decided to go this route with ICS (which, by the way, is what Apple does in iOS, and if you've ever used an iWhatever you'll see the same thing when zooming in).
More information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/5
And here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/4
This is not unique to Sense ROMs either, I'm on a de-Sensed ROM at the moment and even then the browser does the same thing. In any case, personally I find the scrolling much smoother than before, and I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
I don't know if it works on Sense 3.6 ROMs, but try typing "about:debug" in the address bar, hit enter, then go to Settings>Debug and then uncheck "Enable OpenGL Rendering". Then you get no pixelation on zooming in, but the scrolling will be slower.
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Are you saying that when you double tap to zoom, the text DOES NOT got fuzzy for you for a split second, before properly scaling up and into focus?
If it absolutely doesn't then I'd be very interested to know which firmware and rom you are using.
On Gingerbread you see, this fuzziness 'middle step' never occurred, it when straight into scale.
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I do see what you're talking about, but the pixelation is only for like 2 milliseoconds, so who cares.
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What you're seeing is normal for ICS. The reason it does that is because it is rendering the page into an array of images - this is called a backing store. It is much easier to scale and transform an image than it is to redraw the page for every frame of a scroll or zoom animation. This makes for better frame rates during scrolling and zooming, at the cost of that momentary pixelation when you zoom in. A lot of people whined about the non-smooth scrolling in older versions so I guess they decided to go this route with ICS (which, by the way, is what Apple does in iOS, and if you've ever used an iWhatever you'll see the same thing when zooming in).
More information here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/5
And here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/4
This is not unique to Sense ROMs either, I'm on a de-Sensed ROM at the moment and even then the browser does the same thing. In any case, personally I find the scrolling much smoother than before, and I think it's a worthwhile tradeoff.
I don't know if it works on Sense 3.6 ROMs, but try typing "about:debug" in the address bar, hit enter, then go to Settings>Debug and then uncheck "Enable OpenGL Rendering". Then you get no pixelation on zooming in, but the scrolling will be slower.
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Thank you SO MUCH! This is exactly what I was looking for, I searched around but had you not said this, I would never have known.
I can live with the slightly jerkier scrolling, in fact I don't really notice it. What I did notice was the slow zooming and rendering, but thanks to you that's now fixed. Cheers!
this is why i don't use custom ROMS. to many bugs/issues and no matter how much someone that makes a roms and tests it, they will never have a perfect product. Let me ask a few questions that may get your attention. One big issue for me is that how do you know that the folks that make these things aren't embedding malicious software in there? How many people pay bills or access their bank accounts with their phones and how do you know that the ROM isn't sending your data back to it's creator?
No worth the risk for me.
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this is why i don't use custom ROMS. to many bugs/issues and no matter how much someone that makes a roms and tests it, they will never have a perfect product. Let me ask a few questions that may get your attention. One big issue for me is that how do you know that the folks that make these things aren't embedding malicious software in there? How many people pay bills or access their bank accounts with their phones and how do you know that the ROM isn't sending your data back to it's creator?
No worth the risk for me.
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The risk is just about nothing, and you think carriers or manufacturers make a perfect product?
im using the revolution HD 3.0.0 rom and have tested this with 4 different browsers, but ever since I got ICS i cannot use flash video in fullscreen anymore. windowed works fine but assoon as i want to expand to fullscreen, no matter what website, the sreen just stays completely white or black but the sound still runs.
already searched the forum, none of the hreads offer any solutions.
anyone else havint his isse and know any fixes for this? other than that ICS seems to run quite poorly, maybe its the ROm im using but i have frequent app crahes etc.. i want to stay with ICS but it seems very broken.
I have never run into that issue and have used various ICS ROMs for the Transformer.
Hell, I really haven't run into any problems since using ICS based ROMs on the Transformer. I have noticed improvements more so than bugs since updating the Transformer to ICS.
EDIT: I just tested the fullscreen Flash video and it worked perfectly fine. I was able to fullscreen the video and go back to the regular view without any issues. Also resized the webpage to see if it would crash.. nope.
I upgraded to revolution HD 3.2.1 now, still the same issue.
I dont get it.. im using the most recent flash player, wiped the tablöet before upüdating..
so whats different for your tf101? what rom are you on? have you tried several websiteswith flash video?
Yes, and I have used several ROMs. Stock, Revolver, Android Rev, AOKP and now Megatron 1.0.4.
Are you installing some flash .apk you kept around for whatever reason? Or are you downloading it from the Market? If the former, I will smack you.
no im using the flash from the play store so the most recent one
now on revolution 3.2.0, still having the same issue.. any help?
You could try flashing Guevor's Kernel and the Nvidia codecs, they help out flash video play alot.
I've been running the Illuminance 3.0 rom on my Galaxy S for quite some time but I'm having some really irritating problems and I can't seem to find a solution.
Bar none, the most irritating problem is that the phone, contacts and messaging apps are constantly crashing for no reason.
Anyway, I just downloaded Handicent to use for messaging so I don't have to deal with the glitchy turd of a stock program.
Does ANYONE know how to change the links in the bottom bar? I just want a handicent link there instead of the stock program.
Thanks
It's official. This ROM is a steaming piece of ****. can't believe I've ran it for a long as I have.