Sensation 4G Top Speeds? - HTC Sensation

Based on the specs of this phone what are the top network speeds it's capable of? I have a 30MB/5MB down/up cable modem and when I switch to wifi and run speed test I'm still only getting like 5MB or so down and 3-4MB up. Also what about the speeds when the phone is under 2G mode and 4G mode... under those settings I'm getting like 0.09 to 0.60 MB down and up... based on the wifi speeds its starting to make me think maybe I have a defect with my device. Any help with those questions?
Edit: I never had speeds this low before on my G2x or Mytouch 4G

my top so far on 4g was 9.14down and .83up with 60ms ping on speedtest

I got about 1.5 up and 10 down
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First, if your WiFi calling is on, it does worsen WiFi performance.
Also, Settings/Wireless and Networks there is a check box for "Best WiFi Performance" or something like that, give that a try.
I have the cheapest Belkin G router and here's where I'm at on WiFi:

I get 3 to 4, I guess that kinda resembles 4g but I'm in a bad area. Not many carriers have good coverage where I'm at its generally just 2g unless I drive 10th min either direction

My average is 5-6 on 4g, stock. Have seen 9.8 before. In megabits.
State megabits/bytes please
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thanks for the replies... ended up being a server issue in speedtest.net, once i changed to a different one my wifi speed went to 16 down and 5 up... 2g/4g is still slllllow but i have a support ticket open with tmobile because on mytmobile it says that i have 0GB of high speed data instead of 5GB and since i've used more than 1MB of data it says my speed has been reduced for the month

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Wifi MUCH Slower than 3G?

I have an LG Optimus Quantum, and for some very weird reason, the wifi is very slow. I have daily access to 2 wifi networks, home and work, and the phone behaves the same on both. Generally, in order to watch youtube or any other streaming video, I have to turn the wifi OFF or else the video never loads (or in rare cases where the video is small, it will eventually load).
The phone is not unlocked or anything, and I have had it for 4 months and it has always behaved this way.
My home network gets speeds of 17mb/s on a wifi laptop.
Using 3g right I am getting 120, 224, 224, 130 & 156 kb/s using Speedtest app after doing 5 consecutive tests.
Wifi tests 112, 130, 130, 142 & 130 kb/s using Speedtest app (to perform wifi test, I put the phone into airplane mode, then start wifi connection).
Anyone have any input here?
Could be a problem with the firmware? But I think that must be device specific because I haven't noticed that at all (Samsung Omnia 7).
Guess you'll have to see what fellow Optimus users are experiencing.
EDIT: Actually, I downloaded the Speed Test app and my WiFi download speeds ~300KB/s (apparently). Then did a speed test over my WiFi on my laptop and got ~2Mb/s (eventhough it's supposed to be a lot faster than that). So...?
Casey
the92playboy said:
I have an LG Optimus Quantum, and for some very weird reason, the wifi is very slow. I have daily access to 2 wifi networks, home and work, and the phone behaves the same on both. Generally, in order to watch youtube or any other streaming video, I have to turn the wifi OFF or else the video never loads (or in rare cases where the video is small, it will eventually load).
The phone is not unlocked or anything, and I have had it for 4 months and it has always behaved this way.
My home network gets speeds of 17mb/s on a wifi laptop.
Using 3g right I am getting 120, 224, 224, 130 & 156 kb/s using Speedtest app after doing 5 consecutive tests.
Wifi tests 112, 130, 130, 142 & 130 kb/s using Speedtest app (to perform wifi test, I put the phone into airplane mode, then start wifi connection).
Anyone have any input here?
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Same for my HD7. My 3Mb/s DSL WiFi signal averages around 2500Kb/s on my iPhone, HD2 and PC. But on my HD7, the best I can get is around 300Kb/s speed with SpeedTest. It's the same for the data as well. And it isn't anything to do with the carrier.
EDIT - Actually I'm wrong, it's much slower than that. I was paying attention to the bar number and didn't notice the average number upon completion. Mine shows around 200Kb/s. One test was 191Kb/s and another was 212Kb/s.
I noticed this too with the Wifi at work.
At home the wifi is definately faster than 3g but at work the wifi is so slow i just turn it off and use 3g.
Does anyone think that there is a setting in the MFG menu we can adjust that would help?
OFF Topic: What App(Free) did you guys use to test the phone's 3G & WiFi Connection Speed...
Thanks.
Weird. I get my full 10Mbit speeds on my home internet, and full speeds at work and everywhere else I get WiFi. Much faster than the 3G, which gets around 2.3Mbit down on average.
I've got an HTC Surround on AT&T.
the speedtest app in the marketplace got horrible reviews, gonna try BandWidth and see how it does. Right now I'm on my mobile hotspot at work so I should be able to get a clean test as I'm the only one on it.
I have used mobilespeedtest.com in the past but heard it can be inaccurate too.
To the OP, I haven't had any wifi issues. Videos start faster on my home wifi (20mbps), than on my hspa+ t-mobile signal.
Ok, the BandWidth app (free in the marketplace) seems pretty accurate. On first run, I got 590 kbps which is consistent with time warner (aka sprint network) 3g mobile hotspot speeds. Really wish I got 3g t-mobile signal in my office....
I really think this free BandWidth app is fairly accurate.
Just did another test, this time using my mobile hotspot on 4g and speeds came back:
2.7 mbps down
0.47 mbps up
This is consistent with the crappy 4g speeds on sprint (what a disappointment wimax has turned out to be, but still much better than sprint 3g...)
nrfitchett4 said:
I really think this free BandWidth app is fairly accurate.
Just did another test, this time using my mobile hotspot on 4g and speeds came back:
2.7 mbps down
0.47 mbps up
This is consistent with the crappy 4g speeds on sprint (what a disappointment wimax has turned out to be, but still much better than sprint 3g...)
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It only works on cellular data networks. I'm needing to test the WiFi speed on my WP7. But, of course, I'm just using the trial version. Maybe the retail version works with WiFi.
Visiting tracert.org via IE on Wifi I tested as 6.18 Mbps (about half the 12 Mbps I achieve on my PC). On 3G I scored 1.74 Mbps in my house which doesn't exactly get the best reception.
This is on a US TMobile HD7.
I get 1,80Mbps on Wi-fi, when I get ~13Mbps on PC. It's poor I have to say, comparing my previous phones.
bsipe9 said:
Visiting tracert.org via IE on Wifi I tested as 6.18 Mbps (about half the 12 Mbps I achieve on my PC). On 3G I scored 1.74 Mbps in my house which doesn't exactly get the best reception.
This is on a US TMobile HD7.
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Nice! Thanks for the link, mate. My HD7 rang in at 2.61Mb/s. Which is exactly what it should be.
I've noticed this also especially in IE. Xda loads up much faster on my 3G than my WiFi. I also notice that is I turn off the 3G and use edge and WiFi it seems that the speeds should be at where they should be at using a WiFi connection. If I have WiFi and 3G on at the same time the speeds are slower....
Testest Tracert.org on my Focus & my Nexus One.
Focus:
3G: 856kbps download
WiFi: 1.4Mbps
Nexus One:
3G: 1.43Mbps
WiFi: 3.94Mbps
Something is definitily wrong here.
Same problem here exactly!
wi-fi: DL- 56kbps UL- 78kbps ping- 1218
3G: DL- 3106kbps UL- 1228kbps ping- 131
Device: Xperia Arc
On my previous phone, which was Xperia X1 I had much better results on wi-fi than on 3G. Also because X1 runs on WM6.1 there are settings to improve wifi performance, Android doesn't have anything of the kind as far as I know.
My modem is b/g, Arc has b/g/n. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
I wonder what causes this and what could be done to solve the issue.
I also have slow Wifi . ATT surround .
Mine is coming in at 36.03 Mbps with a download speed of 4.5MB/sec on wifi. I have an HD7.
cech said:
Same problem here exactly!
wi-fi: DL- 56kbps UL- 78kbps ping- 1218
3G: DL- 3106kbps UL- 1228kbps ping- 131
Device: Xperia Arc
On my previous phone, which was Xperia X1 I had much better results on wi-fi than on 3G. Also because X1 runs on WM6.1 there are settings to improve wifi performance, Android doesn't have anything of the kind as far as I know.
My modem is b/g, Arc has b/g/n. I don't know if that has anything to do with it.
I wonder what causes this and what could be done to solve the issue.
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Have you tried to update the phone, even if you just got it but this could be some kind glitch on the software which could easily be fixed by doing an update.
Josh-SEAnswers said:
Have you tried to update the phone, even if you just got it but this could be some kind glitch on the software which could easily be fixed by doing an update.
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I agree, it could be easily fixed by an update if there was an update with the glitch fixed or any update for the Arc at all. I have since found that the wifi connectivity problem is caused by encryption. The Arc can handle WEP but using WPA or WPA2 the connection is painfully slow with a great loss of packets.
Doing a fix through PC Companion and reloading the whole system however doesn't work.

4G not implimented yet!!?? plus more

ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....
I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)
thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.
I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.
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Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant
Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?
I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.
I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
jrharvey said:
My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
jlevy73 said:
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.
4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.
jimbo831 said:
I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.
No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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pychobj2001 said:
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)

Slow Sprint Nexus S 4G data speeds. Normal?

I got a Nexus S 4G, I'm getting slow speeds. Anywhere from 0 to 300kbps on average. I pulled 500kbps a few times. Did a speed test next to a friends Evo. Evo pulled 1.2 mbps, the Nexus pulled 200kbps.
I called Sprint, and they flashed a few things on their side and I updated the usual suspects, but nothing changed.
I don't know anyone where I live who has one, so I was wondering if the folks here who have one have noticed slower than normal or even downright abysmal data speeds.
Thanks!
ive been blaming the network. results havent changed across multiple different devices.
I checked mine when I was in a 4g area about an hour ago and I got 4.1M down and 800K up
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ive been blaming the network. results havent changed across multiple different devices.
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my reference is for 3g exclusively. granted cdma is capped at 3.1 but sprints 3g network is far slower.
ive experienced terrible sprint 3g speeds for over a year with multiple different blackberry's, multiple htc hero's, multiple htc evo's and now the nexus s 4g.
How sad. What's the use in having unlimited data if it's so slow you can't stream music on Pandora, or download things. Might as well go to AT&T and sign up for my allotted 2gb data. They have really fast data speeds around here.
Zysoclaplem said:
How sad. What's the use in having unlimited data if it's so slow you can't stream music on Pandora, or download things. Might as well go to AT&T and sign up for my allotted 2gb data. They have really fast data speeds around here.
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Go with which ever cell company is best for your area. Here in Nashville TN, the CDMA is dominant. Where as Verizon / Sprint service is strong. My Nexus does on average 8Mbps to 10Mbps down on 4G and 1 to 2Mbps.
So im definitely taking advantage of the unlimited data usage and love it. I do about 2-3 GB of data a week lol.
If the network is slow in your area, Sprint just aint for you just as TMobile just wasn't for me lol.
The day I got my phone, last sunday, I tested the 4g speeds. It was very disappointing. I was getting the same speeds or sometimes slower than 3g. I will have to try again tomorrow if I remember to see if it improved. I'm measuring this against my old epic that used to connect to 4g much quicker and easier and it hauled ass. The ns4g is pokey. I don't know if it's psychological or not but I thought I got better speeds on the epic and evo for 3/4g.
After running some more test on the Nexus 4G. I noticed running the speed test app gave me slower speed results then other 4G phones. But when downloading large files while tethered using bittorrent or just large files in the browsed I seen the speeds hit 700KB/s to 1MB/s which is around 9-10 Mbps. I also noticed the indicator next to battery for 4G light up 2 bars where normally it is grey for no activity and 1 bar for some activity.
Maybe Google did something new to the Nexus 4G vs other 4G phones where it attempts to save battery power by not using much speed until its actually needed. Also starting to think the 4G bars don't represent reception but might represent the speed or data being transmitted which also explains why it turns grey and green.
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Used the evo up until December before I jumped to at&t. Was pulling 1-1.5mbs down consistently in my area on 3g. Now with the ns4g its my first time back since 5 months ago and I'm averaging <.5mbs down in my area on 3g! Its not the phone bc I was getting the same speeds on my temporary echo phone.
My only assumption is that within the 5 months I was gone, an assload of ppl jumped on sprint's network.
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Used the evo up until December before I jumped to at&t. Was pulling 1-1.5mbs down consistently in my area on 3g. Now with the ns4g its my first time back since 5 months ago and I'm averaging <.5mbs down in my area on 3g! Its not the phone bc I was getting the same speeds on my temporary echo phone.
My only assumption is that within the 5 months I was gone, an assload of ppl jumped on sprint's network.
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i would agree, except for the fact that i just came from an htc hero and was pulling 1-2 mbps on 3g and now on my brand new ns4g im getting less than 1 mbps on 3g. Im very disappointed idk what to do i spent so much money on this phone.

[Q] Are my "4g" speeds correct?

Hello,
I was wondering what I should be getting in the way of 4g speed on my sensation. I tested it a few times and the best I got was 1.8Mb/s DL and 2Mb/s upload.
Does this sound right? I know people have claimed issues with data, but I dont know what is truly normal or to be expected?
Would this be considered normal, but on the low end? Normal? Or, not even close?
Matt
1.8Mb/s DL and 1Mb/s UL is about what I get where I live. This speed is low but fortunately I have WiFi at home. The speeds you get depend on the location you are at. I have got up to 10Mb/s DL in some areas.
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Depends on the area. You would have to ask your neighbor or someone very close to your exact location.
It all depends on the area you live/work.
I average between 8.5-10.5 mbps down and 1.5-3 mbps up. I am in Tulsa, OK, and our network has been upgraded to T-Mobile's 42mbps coverage.
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In San Diego I'm getting a consistent 4-6Mbps down, 1.6Mbps up no matter where I'm at. Little slow in my opinion, especially since we're an upgraded market, but whatever.

Anyone having issues with signal constantly dropping to 2G?

My wife just upgraded from the MyTouch Slide 3G to the Slide 4G. The 4G is constantly dropping to 2G so obviously the data speeds are terrible. Her Slide 3G usually always stayed in 3G in the same areas the 4G is now dropping. Anyone else experiencing this?
Did experience something like this at a friend's house.
Sounds like the problem that the one of the reviewers of the Sidekick 4G was having (ping-ponging between 4G and 2G). Not everyone was having that problem in the wild, though. Could be a coincidence that two recent physical keyboard-based 4G phones are having trouble holding their T-Mobile HSPA+ connections and skipping the 3G alternative, though it could be a bug with T-Mobile's HSPA+ at the tower or phone level. I don't know know the protocol rules on the handoff between 3G and HSPA+. Some reviewers have reported lower data rates than expected with the Slide. The Sensation supposedly has a death grip issue, so maybe there's a variation of that with the Slide (due to a different landscape hand position using the physical keyboard) resulting in 2G connections. Could be temporary capacity issues with your wife's local 3G/4G towers. Is this a constant problem or worse at different times of the day? I remember a few years back reading a report on 3G mobile streaming usage experiments in Europe that it only took like 8 people streaming on the same tower to saturate the tower's 3G capacity. Of course, the number should be higher with HSPA+, but just wanted to point out it is possible for a tower to get overloaded. Keep us posted. This is the kind of stuff that will determine whether I get the Slide and stay with T-Mobile.
I'm in MD and I'm constantly having this issue in my apartment. One minute I have 4g and the next I have 2g and it wont switch back until I restart the phone. I wont even be holding it and i see the issue. Dunno, at least I have 14 days to bring it back.
Had same issue with my sensation. Try going into settings and switching to just wcdma as opposed to it picking between gsm/wcdma. It is under wireless and mobile settings. That is assuming you are in a good 4g area. It will not show 3g
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Well i saw this happening on the 1st floor of my house. But it was in a hallway away from the windows. but when i moved it came back to 4g and stays there. I think it has do more with the tower and whats available in your area.
Should I ever see 3G on the phone? Currently it is only ever in 4G or 2G. I notice the manual mentions 3G also though. I was assuming it always said 4G even if it was really 3G, but now I'm not sure. Has anyone seen 3G at all for their signal? I'm wondering if there is a setting wrong on the phone.
For those of you that don't have the network settings, go to the market and download an app called Network, it's free. Scroll down to set preferred network type and chose WCDMA only.
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I'm in MD and I'm constantly having this issue in my apartment. One minute I have 4g and the next I have 2g and it wont switch back until I restart the phone. I wont even be holding it and i see the issue. Dunno, at least I have 14 days to bring it back.
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This issue is the phone itself. This is a verry buggy phone. Coming from a family g1 plan and were very excited but these phones have issues. Cant wait for root. Neways i know the 2g issue is that it gets stuck and u have to reboot. For ex. I tested in cordelane ID in near costco. Full 4g bars. Had 2 mt4gs's. One phone was in 4g and the other was stuck. I tried the old g1 trick they had in the beginning switching in and out of airplane mode. Did not work. Rebooted and it worked fine. Many other issues like all the time on both phones the widgets get stuck. U must slide to next screen than go back and widget works. Like i said i have 2 phones so i can troubleshoot and feel confident its not a glitch with a particular phone, etc. These phones suck.

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