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4G not implimented yet!!?? plus more

ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
if you use adw launcher and custom make an icon attached to the hidden menu apk you can access the test and servicing menus like other phones BUT... if you go into test settings for phone (play around its in there) there is a menu the shows hspda (3g, hspda+ being 4g) and many other functions that are advertised on the phone that are all listed as NOT IMPLIMENTED YET!!
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming). so it would make sense why the signal on the phone is screwed up and dropping (confused phone maybe?) and why im still getting 3g speeds (slightly faster maybe from better signal reception due to upgraded hardware from my previous Vibrant).
go take a look for yourself and let me know what you think. im sure you can use desktop visualizer to get to the menu to. DONT MESS WITH ANYTHING THOUGH. i had to reset my phone and not with a hard reset, but a recovery i found on a nvflash website. almost bricked it. so just look but don't touch anything important unless you know what your doing.
im looking forward to hearing what everything thinks of this and the giant list of other features also saying this in the same menu. because i feel mislead just a little bit.....

I think it's just that the functions in the hidden menu aren't implemented yet.

Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well

Dolphinwigs said:
ok i havent seen a post for this so here we go..
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There's a reason for that...
so as far as i can tell 4g is NOT active on tmobile at all yet. not until the software is upgraded (gingerbread i am assuming)
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I've got a hot 4g connection where I am (west Texas), you don't get 4.9-5.6mb (Speedtest) download on 3g. Did you check the T-Mobile coverage map to see if you have it in your area yet?
Edit: you also may need a new sim card. Depending on the age of the card, you might not be able to get a stable lock on to 4g (age as in what generation it was produced.. not how long you've had it)

thats possible, but im getting 3g speeds still as far as i can tell and i don't see why it wouldnt be included in the "hidden menu" if it is working since we aren't "really" supposed to know about the hidden menu. anyways just something i noticed.
menu is Hidden Menu->modem settings is where the menu is at.
and i got a new sim card (tired 2 new ones both the same) and yes i am in salt lake city and it is a 4g area for tmobile. but seems like everyone (mostly) is getting signal drops all over the place. my 2g isn't working as consistantly as it did before on my vibrant either. im sure gingerbread will fix all of this though.

I'm getting 4-8mps down in Metro Atlanta. I say 4G speed is on.

jdkackley said:
Hmmm, interesting find! Maybe this explains the problems I'm having maintaining a stable 2g only connection as well
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I'm having the same problem, and I've even got a 2G booster in my house. My 2G connection drops all the time on my G2X but not my Vibrant. When I look at the signal strength when it's up it's not much different than the Vibrant, -104dBm on the G2X vs -100 dBm on the Vibrant

Im at a consistent 6-9mb dl at my house with a 1mb+ ul. Im calling it 4g and have you tried your conn outside of your city to see if its just congestion on the network?

I'm also getting 4-8mbps speeds in Atlanta, 4g is definitely working.

I'm in vegas, every hour, I get only 10 or 20mn of 4g at 6Mb download speed, the rest of the time I'm on 2g. At night time,i get 4g most of the time. So I guess in the day time, they kick me back to 2g to save their bandwitch, I'm returning my phone to let them know this is not acceptable
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My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.

jrharvey said:
My phone SAYS 4G all the time in Charlotte NC but I have only been getting 1mb DL and about 1.5 upload. The weird thing is that browsing the web is lightening fast compared to the vibrant. I would say it loads pages twice as fast.
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Not sure but this may have as much to do with the processor and RAM speed as the connection speed.

I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+

jlevy73 said:
I get crap speeds compared to the Nexus S, and that phone doesn't support full hspa+
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I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.

A few things, before we get too heavy handed on the FUD:
The phone is technically '4G' compatible, and it supports it out of the box.
Most of T-Mo's towers have been upgraded to support their 4G (HSPA+)
Regular HSPA caps out at about 3.5Mbps down. I've gotten as much as 7Mbps down on my G2x
Personally, I haven't had many issues with signal, but I live in Houston, so that may have something to do with it.

4g is on in Huntington Beach, and irvine.
I did notice its not a huge difference speed wise though. I had the moto cliq 3g and i would get 1mbs ish to 5mbs DL, and with the G2x im averaging about 3mbs to 7mbs. not a huge difference but the big change is Latency. I used to rock 700ms to 1000ms on 3g with my cliq, im getting around 55ms to 150ms on my G2x.
Latency is key for me though, i would prefer lower latency than higher download speeds. Due to the fact I need to vpn and voip with company network.
I found that t mobiles 3g network is still very capable in speed. the main issue i had was my cliq was underpowered to handle the t mobiles network. when i would tether my rooted nook color it would perform like a champ.

jimbo831 said:
I am not complaining about my speeds which are plenty good IMO, averaging around 3-3.5 mbps. However, I have been surprised that they are no better than my Nexus One was that also didn't support HSPA+.
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Where do you live? Is it possible T-Mo may not support HSPA+ in your area?
It's also important to note that even if the towers you're connected to support HSPA+, that's only one part of the process. They also have to upgrade the data connection to the tower itself (backhaul) to ensure it can handle the speeds. If you're connected to an HSPA+ tower that doesn't have the upgraded backhaul, that could explain slow speeds.

No.
HSPA+ ("4G") is on and working. You're just not in an HSPA+ area it seems.
We're all getting faster than HSPA speeds, so we are certainly on HSPA+. Speedtests are the best way for you to verify if you are on EDGE (2G), HSPA (3G), or HSPA+ (4G).

I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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pychobj2001 said:
I would like a 3g icon just top know what type of tower I'm on, I think the baseband is wack, I bet when gingerbread comes out we will get the separate icons... Also my vibrant would get steady 5-6mb down 2mb up, but with this phone its anything but steady, I can get up to 8mb down but its crazy random, regular use is sometimes slow initializing, and someones websites timeout.... I think a baseband upgrade will fix all this stuff tho, or software upgrades.
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That's the thing though. The way T-Mo has their network setup, if you can get 3G from a tower, you should be able to get 4G. Period. You may not get 4G speeds, but you're technically connected to an HSPA+ tower, and thus the 4G icon. It'd be weird to connect a tower that supports HSPA at this point, but not HSPA+ (though I'm sure there are some out there)

[Q] Fasted wifi speed?

Hello,
I've just upgraded my home router, in order to speed up and future proof my home network, I've upgraded from a netgear DG834GT to a DGND3700, (mainly to add faster wifi and 1Gb ethernet).
On my old router my wifi connection from my phone was always 72Mbps. So I installed the new router and configured it to what I think is all the max settings, however my initial wifi speed on the phone was a lower 65Mps!?
After a while I realised that if I switched the phone wifi setting to max performance it would achieve 72Mbps (even though before with the older router it could always achieve this speed with this setting the other way). I'm no means an expert on wifi..etc.(clearly) can anyone explain... (please)
Another question is, what is the fastest speed anyone has had wifi running on the Desire S?
My new(ish) laptop manages to get a 300Mpbs wifi link to the new router! am I missing some configuration option?
Thanks

I've only had 72 mbps too, with a WNDR4000 -
I've tried setting the router's 2.4gHz to deliver it as fast as 300 mps or at 145 - makes no difference just 1.5 metres from the router.
I don't know if there's any way to set the Desire S to find the 5Ghz signal.
Disappointing

What do you use to check the speed ?
Edit : Also what is your normal broad band connection supposed to be?
I'm on 16 Mb line with Sky and phone pulls in at 8.21 Mbps over wifi
Just checked on WIFI settings on phone and for Sky it says 54Mbps with singal strength as excellent

i dont know much about this topic but have you tried setting the channel to auto,transmit power to 100%,turned on 802.11n?

As far as I'm aware, the Desire S is only officially wireless G protocol so 54mbps theoretical max.
However, it may be like the older HD2 which has, albeit by method of registry change, wireless N support.

Elcs said:
As far as I'm aware, the Desire S is only officially wireless G protocol so 54mbps theoretical max.
However, it may be like the older HD2 which has, albeit by method of registry change, wireless N support.
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it is officially capable of 802.11n
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-s/#specs
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-3776.php

kartkk said:
it is officially capable of 802.11n
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-s/#specs
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-3776.php
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Duly noted.
Now I'm disappointed with 65mbps from my TP Link TL-WR1043ND

Did you solve youre problem?
I have the same HTC en the same router and the same poor results!

People need to stop reviving these old threads!
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[Q] WIFI speed on G2x

Does anyone have trouble with wifi speed on their G2x? I have been averaging 32mb to 60mb (hard line) on my PC, yet I have been having trouble getting over 1mb (wifi) on the phone. When connected the phone says excellent connection and lists the link speed as 65mb, but when I test it reads about 1mb. It doesn't seem to be running all that quickly when on wifi either. I tried turning mobile data off in case their was some confusion with the 4g and wifi displaying at the same time, but it didn't seem to help.
Same issue with the wife's phone. I rebooted the router and phones and didn't seem to help.

Bhatch said:
Does anyone have trouble with wifi speed on their G2x? I have been averaging 32mb to 60mb (hard line) on my PC, yet I have been having trouble getting over 1mb (wifi) on the phone. When connected the phone says excellent connection and lists the link speed as 65mb, but when I test it reads about 1mb. It doesn't seem to be running all that quickly when on wifi either. I tried turning mobile data off in case their was some confusion with the 4g and wifi displaying at the same time, but it didn't seem to help.
Same issue with the wife's phone. I rebooted the router and phones and didn't seem to help.
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You have 4G and Wifi displayed on the taskbar at the same time? That is odd. Are you runing a custom rom? If I turn on Wifi it shows wifi and the 4G is replaced by the Wifi symbol.

WiFi speeds
I often get near 20Mb/sec from WiFi on my G2X through my 20Gb/sec FIOS connection and the FIOS wireless router. (No SIM card in the phone; haven't tried it with a SIM card). That compares to no more than 6Mb/sec at the same location from my Nexus One and MyTouch 4g.

jcbofkc said:
You have 4G and Wifi displayed on the taskbar at the same time? That is odd. Are you runing a custom rom? If I turn on Wifi it shows wifi and the 4G is replaced by the Wifi symbol.
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Stock everything.
Yeah I had it happen quite a bit on froyo and it stopped for a bit on GB. Now it has started to run them both at the same time again.
I believe others have had this same issue.

I am always getting about 20 to 25 mb/s on my 50mb/s Comcast line. For a phone, that is more than enough. At that point your going to have bottle necks from the hardware.
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I will average 3mb short of what my actual connections so hardline I get on my computer about 17mb down and on my G2X I get about 14-15mb down, but I have a ****ty wireless router... I'm fine with it lol
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Try force stopping Market or T-Mobile My Account app. I noticed when I was running stock that when 4G and Wifi were both displayed in my status bar, killing those apps would make the 4G icon go away.
G2X CM7

Sensation 4G Top Speeds?

Based on the specs of this phone what are the top network speeds it's capable of? I have a 30MB/5MB down/up cable modem and when I switch to wifi and run speed test I'm still only getting like 5MB or so down and 3-4MB up. Also what about the speeds when the phone is under 2G mode and 4G mode... under those settings I'm getting like 0.09 to 0.60 MB down and up... based on the wifi speeds its starting to make me think maybe I have a defect with my device. Any help with those questions?
Edit: I never had speeds this low before on my G2x or Mytouch 4G

my top so far on 4g was 9.14down and .83up with 60ms ping on speedtest

I got about 1.5 up and 10 down
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All your OT are belong to Pipsqueak

First, if your WiFi calling is on, it does worsen WiFi performance.
Also, Settings/Wireless and Networks there is a check box for "Best WiFi Performance" or something like that, give that a try.
I have the cheapest Belkin G router and here's where I'm at on WiFi:

I get 3 to 4, I guess that kinda resembles 4g but I'm in a bad area. Not many carriers have good coverage where I'm at its generally just 2g unless I drive 10th min either direction

My average is 5-6 on 4g, stock. Have seen 9.8 before. In megabits.
State megabits/bytes please
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thanks for the replies... ended up being a server issue in speedtest.net, once i changed to a different one my wifi speed went to 16 down and 5 up... 2g/4g is still slllllow but i have a support ticket open with tmobile because on mytmobile it says that i have 0GB of high speed data instead of 5GB and since i've used more than 1MB of data it says my speed has been reduced for the month

Sprint's "network vision" and their excuse for terrible 3g

I have called Sprint on their BS and their horrible 3G.
Evo Shift = EVDO Rev A
Photon Q/iPhone5/newer phones = EVDO Rev B
Ping time on Photon Q = 800ms+ latency
Download speed = 0.02Mbps
Evo Shift = ~300ms latency
Download speed = .5Mbps
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/99267?start=360&tstart=0 <-- iPhone5 users having the same problem.
I switched back to my Evo Shift 4G. Apparently every tower is "down" in my area while they perform the upgrades. OVER IT.
Link above spells it out

VICODAN said:
I have called Sprint on their BS and their horrible 3G.
Evo Shift = EVDO Rev A
Photon Q/iPhone5/newer phones = EVDO Rev B
Ping time on Photon Q = 800ms+ latency
Download speed = 0.02Mbps
Evo Shift = ~300ms latency
Download speed = .5Mbps
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/99267?start=360&tstart=0 <-- iPhone5 users having the same problem.
I switched back to my Evo Shift 4G. Apparently every tower is "down" in my area while they perform the upgrades. OVER IT.
Link above spells it out
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One, EVDO Rev B, last I checked, is not on the Photon Q or any LTE phone other than the iPhone 5. Two, EVDO Rev B IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE DEPLOYED BY SPRINT OR VERIZON. All phones connect to EVDO Rev A.
Those speeds and pings are highly varying, make SURE both phones are connected to 3G (EVDO). It seems the Photon Q is connected to 1xRTT rather than EVDO, while the Evo Shift is connected to EVDO.

Yea I've been contemplating returning my Photon Q as well (still have a few more days in the 14-day return period for Costco) or selling it outright. I wish I had made the decision before last Friday when I could have picked up a GS3 for $50...
I have my Evo Shift on craigslist for sale, and thus returned it to stock, but am thinking I may unlock it again, try out CM10 on it, and if it runs well, switch back too. LTE would be nice, and even though I'm in the Atlanta metro, and get LTE speeds driving around, it seems to have dead zones at my house, my buddy's house, my wife's school, and anywhere else I might have the opportunity to use it. I was hoping some of the development would help fix these issues, but I guess I'm too impatient to wait lol. One of the last straws was going to watch a video on collegehumor that wouldn't run on the Q, even with Flash 11.1 sideloaded, but runs fine on my original HTC EVO (which also runs CM10).
Dunno, its a hard choice... the keyboard is really nice, and I'm excited for the free vehicle dock, and the dual core 1.5 is pretty sweet, but there are just too many issues with the thing...

To me the downside of Sprint's network is that the connection seems to drop out often, resulting in the inability to load data at that instant, and probably battery drain... i would think anyway. Does anyone else notice the connection dropping and reconnecting a lot? I felt like i maintained a much more steady connection on T-Mobile's network. And yea, i find Sprint 3G to be pretty slow.
But in the few times i've had strong LTE, i've had the fastest speeds i have ever recorded anywhere!

zodiac12345 said:
One, EVDO Rev B, last I checked, is not on the Photon Q or any LTE phone other than the iPhone 5. Two, EVDO Rev B IS NOT AND WILL NOT BE DEPLOYED BY SPRINT OR VERIZON. All phones connect to EVDO Rev A.
Those speeds and pings are highly varying, make SURE both phones are connected to 3G (EVDO). It seems the Photon Q is connected to 1xRTT rather than EVDO, while the Evo Shift is connected to EVDO.
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Yes, the Photon is NOT getting Evdo (whatever rev) even though it says it does. Both stock and post OTA.

yogi2010 said:
To me the downside of Sprint's network is that the connection seems to drop out often, resulting in the inability to load data at that instant, and probably battery drain... i would think anyway. Does anyone else notice the connection dropping and reconnecting a lot? I felt like i maintained a much more steady connection on T-Mobile's network. And yea, i find Sprint 3G to be pretty slow.
But in the few times i've had strong LTE, i've had the fastest speeds i have ever recorded anywhere!
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I've noticed the exact same thing. When I'm on 3G, the data is fairly regularly just dropping for a second or two at a time, so anything that requires a constant connection (like IRC) will crap out. The few times I've been in 4G, mostly in silicon valley, I've gotten ridiculously fast speeds. Last time I ran a speed test it was like 36MBps down and 20MBps up. I never saw those speeds with Verizon (but that's likely because so many more people were actually using Verizon, too)

Jgard said:
I've noticed the exact same thing. When I'm on 3G, the data is fairly regularly just dropping for a second or two at a time, so anything that requires a constant connection (like IRC) will crap out. The few times I've been in 4G, mostly in silicon valley, I've gotten ridiculously fast speeds. Last time I ran a speed test it was like 36MBps down and 20MBps up. I never saw those speeds with Verizon (but that's likely because so many more people were actually using Verizon, too)
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yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
yeah, my record speedtest was 37 MBps down in LTE! i never got 20 up tho. yea, there can't be too many people using Sprint LTE yet, but i've been reading some forums on the site s4gru.com, and supposedly Verizon just raced to cover the nation with LTE, but didn't rebuild their entire network like Sprint is doing. who knows, but at least Sprint LTE seems promising.

yogi2010 said:
yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
yeah, my record speedtest was 37 MBps down in LTE! i never got 20 up tho. yea, there can't be too many people using Sprint LTE yet, but i've been reading some forums on the site s4gru.com, and supposedly Verizon just raced to cover the nation with LTE, but didn't rebuild their entire network like Sprint is doing. who knows, but at least Sprint LTE seems promising.
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That is a bug in 77.8 (drop data when changing network mode)
workaround: turn on airplane mode, turn off, or reboot phone.

VICODAN said:
That is a bug in 77.8 (drop data when changing network mode)
workaround: turn on airplane mode, turn off, or reboot phone.
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i think these are actually 2 different things, i've been seeing the signal drop/reconnect ever since the original software version. after the update, the 3G icon will disappear(like after a phone call) and won't come back until you toggle airplane mode or it drops and reconnects on it's own(which seems to be often!). but if your 3G icon disappears and you have bars, try and you should see that you can still load data, so i believe that bug since the update is more of a cosmetic thing. at least that's how it is for me, and others have said the same on other forums.

Here's a screenshot where i have no 3G icon but have a perfect data connection!

yogi2010 said:
yeah the dropping connection is terrible, and happens even in a real strong 3G area. could it have anything to do with looking for LTE, or being on the edge of an LTE zone, or just the fact that the whole network is in flux? hopefully it's only temporary 'cuz it's pretty bad... seems real slow too, especially on downloads.
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You're right, that issue actually does have a lot to do with the phone wanting to search for LTE, or trying to prefer LTE when the connection is very weak. The solution? Turn off LTE when you're not in LTE coverage. Not the most elegant or pleasing solution, but that fixes it.
Sent from my Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE (XT897-rooted) using xda-developers app.

FinntheViking said:
You're right, that issue actually does have a lot to do with the phone wanting to search for LTE, or trying to prefer LTE when the connection is very weak. The solution? Turn off LTE when you're not in LTE coverage. Not the most elegant or pleasing solution, but that fixes it.
Sent from my Motorola Photon Q 4G LTE (XT897-rooted) using xda-developers app.
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Yeah, that could be it for me. I switched to CDMA-only a few hours ago and haven't seen the signal drop out once. I'll keep an eye on it tho to make sure. It seems like LTE is creeping in around where i live, so my phone may have been wanting to connect but was just out of range of it.