Hi, I have a HTC sensation global version, and I was wondering, if I wanted to flash a Stock ROM, do I need to root the phone? Because I see the Revolutionary method out there suggests that I could actually get a S-OFF before I root the phone, and so that's why I have not unlock my phone yet.
Any info is greatly appreciated!!!
spencerzck said:
Hi, I have a HTC sensation global version, and I was wondering, if I wanted to flash a Stock ROM, do I need to root the phone? Because I see the Revolutionary method out there suggests that I could actually get a S-OFF before I root the phone, and so that's why I have not unlock my phone yet.
Any info is greatly appreciated!!!
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To flash a ROM you need S-off and Root. Root alone gets you access to some features like ( Ti-Backup,root explorer...) but no ROM flashing. sorry.
Probably a foolish question but rather type it out here than creating a new thread. Is there anyway for me to ascertain the exact version of the ROM which is in the phone?
Reason being i want to make sure that there exists a Stock ROM or my phone which would 'save the day' in case things go wrong. Or does the guide for rooting itself have the procedure of backing up the Stock ROM?
Thanks in advance!
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Hi ,
I own Htc Desire with froyo 2.2 version sense
I wanted months now to root my device but I was afraid of losing warranty, but now I want to do it. But I have some questions
1.In all sites they talk about HBOOT 0.75 OR 0.83 my device have 0.93 version. would be able to do it with unrevoked method or it will crash?
2.Unrevoled methood what exactly does? It keeps the rom you already have but becomes rooted?
3. For being able to have another rom flashed i must do the S-OFF procedure no matter what?
4. In XDA-DEVELOPERS site I see some roms called PRE-ROOTED and ROOTED. What is the difference? and which of the 2 i should flash in my already rooted device?
5.If i decide to do unroot how i can manage to do that?
Sorry for all questions but i am newbie in android
Thank you in advance
Hello,
I'm new to android and have been reading a lot. But not everything is clear.
With AlphaRevX you can s-off the desire s.
If you have 0.98.0000 and use AlphaRevX, will it still be 0.98.0000 or will it be upgraded to a higher number?
The desire s (gingerbread) can't be really rooted yet, only gingerbreak.
But to install a custom rom you don't need to be rooted, you only need s-off and goldcard?
Does anyone have an idea when htc will release a s-off tool or s-off bootloader?
dloulou said:
Hello,
I'm new to android and have been reading a lot. But not everything is clear.
With AlphaRevX you can s-off the desire s.
If you have 0.98.0000 and use AlphaRevX, will it still be 0.98.0000 or will it be upgraded to a higher number?
The desire s (gingerbread) can't be really rooted yet, only gingerbreak.
But to install a custom rom you don't need to be rooted, you only need s-off and goldcard?
Does anyone have an idea when htc will release a s-off tool or s-off bootloader?
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The bootloader version number will be changed after alpharevx, to 6.something, to stop accidental bootloader down grading.
Ginger beak is the exploit that we use to achieve root, So it can be rooted!
You don't need gold card.
You're right in saying that you don't need root to flash custom, just soff and a recovery, CWM or EXT4
But you do need root to take the recommend pre custom backup
I don't see htc releasing unlocked boot loader to this device till at least late september as the schedule they've announced initially involves sensation and evo3d only
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA Premium App
Thanks a lot, it is much clearer now.
ben_pyett said:
But you do need root to take the recommend pre custom backup
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I didn't know that.
So the only purpose of the goldgard is to downgrade the bootloader?
dloulou said:
Thanks a lot, it is much clearer now.
I didn't know that.
So the only purpose of the goldgard is to downgrade the bootloader?
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Yep, a pre-backup (a Nandroid backup) always helps and makes you feel slightly more secure when flashing!
Goldcards - I'm afraid that I'm not 100% sure about that.
A quote from @paulobrien @Modaco, "A GoldCard is a special SD card which, when inserted into your device, allows you to flash RUU (ROM Update/upgrade utility) files with a different CID to your own device. For example, if you own a T-Mobile branded device, this will allow you to flash a generic ROM."
As I don't own a network locked device I've never had to use one myself, so my knowledge about them is pretty thin.
Thanks, mine is also not a branded device.
Hi guys!
I did some research on how to root the Desire S with Hboot 2.00.0002 and I read that many had problems rooting the phone. I had the same problem since the revolutionary method doesn't support hboot 2.00.0002. This made the process a bit harder.
But here is what I did to root my Desire S:
1. Unlocked bootloader using htcdev.com
(I know that Desire S is not listed but if you use "Desire" it will work.)
2. Downloaded Superoneclick v2.3
(This version is included with zergRUSH and Superuser.)
I connected the phone to the computer in USB Debugging mode and opened Superoneclick. Pressed the "Root" button and the process began. After a minute or two the phone was rooted.
The only problem with this method is that the phone is still S-on. But I think you can flash custom roms and so.
I hope this will help you guys! Good luck
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koffert9 said:
Hi guys!
I did some research on how to root the Desire S with Hboot 2.00.0002 and I read that many had problems rooting the phone. I had the same problem since the revolutionary method doesn't support hboot 2.00.0002. This made the process a bit harder.
But here is what I did to root my Desire S:
1. Unlocked bootloader using htcdev.com
(I know that Desire S is not listed but if you use "Desire" it will work.)
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I don't know what the "Begin Unlock Bootloader" button on http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ is meant to do, but I tried clicking it (AFTER logging in) in 3 different browsers and it did nothing.
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OK, the answer is that if you access the page at http://htcdev.com/bootloader/ the button doesn't work but if you access it at http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/ it does. Terribly designed JavaScript!
koffert9 said:
Hi guys!
I did some research on how to root the Desire S with Hboot 2.00.0002 and I read that many had problems rooting the phone. I had the same problem since the revolutionary method doesn't support hboot 2.00.0002. This made the process a bit harder.
But here is what I did to root my Desire S:
1. Unlocked bootloader using htcdev.com
(I know that Desire S is not listed but if you use "Desire" it will work.)
2. Downloaded Superoneclick v2.3
(This version is included with zergRUSH and Superuser.)
I connected the phone to the computer in USB Debugging mode and opened Superoneclick. Pressed the "Root" button and the process began. After a minute or two the phone was rooted.
The only problem with this method is that the phone is still S-on. But I think you can flash custom roms and so.
I hope this will help you guys! Good luck
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Well I did exactly the same as you but SuperOneClick just locked up at step #7 WaitForDevice. :-( No idea what's wrong.
jez9999 said:
Well I did exactly the same as you but SuperOneClick just locked up at step #7 WaitForDevice. No idea what's wrong.
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Sorry for digging up this old post, I am too suffering from the same problem.
Unable to go past the Step #7 Waiting for device
Looks like manu users are facing this problem (after going through SuperOneClick website), but found no solution.
Currently I have unlocked by Bootloader with HTC-dev, and I want to root my stock rom and back it up before trying any other custom rom.
Any help or suggestions on this will be highly appreciated. This is my first post in xda-developers hope everyone will be kind to me :fingers-crossed:
My Device: HTC Desire S (Android 2.3.5 Stock Unrooted)
HBOOT 2.00.002 S-ON
Bootloader: HTC-Dev Unlocked
abhishek2386 said:
Sorry for digging up this old post, I am too suffering from the same problem.
Unable to go past the Step #7 Waiting for device
Looks like manu users are facing this problem (after going through SuperOneClick website), but found no solution.
Currently I have unlocked by Bootloader with HTC-dev, and I want to root my stock rom and back it up before trying any other custom rom.
Any help or suggestions on this will be highly appreciated. This is my first post in xda-developers hope everyone will be kind to me :fingers-crossed:
My Device: HTC Desire S (Android 2.3.5 Stock Unrooted)
HBOOT 2.00.002 S-ON
Bootloader: HTC-Dev Unlocked
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I am facing the same problem!! Help needed.. I am sick of HTC going back and forth on whether Desire S will get an ICS update or not, suggest a fully functional stable rom too
cnkapadia said:
I am facing the same problem!! Help needed.. I am sick of HTC going back and forth on whether Desire S will get an ICS update or not, suggest a fully functional stable rom too
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If you're just interested in getting an ICS on your device then you can try this steps as you've already unlocked the bootloader the HTC-Dev way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
You can use any ROM as per your choice, my personal preference is Fallout:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679125
Be sure to check and read the threads properly before you jump in.
Note for anyone who can help me: Please let me know if there is a way to ROOT HTC Desire S (HBOOT 2.00.0002) HTC-Dev unlocked, so that I can backup my stock ROM first before trying out the custom ROMs. Any help will be highly appreciated.
abhishek2386 said:
Note for anyone who can help me: Please let me know if there is a way to ROOT HTC Desire S (HBOOT 2.00.0002) HTC-Dev unlocked, so that I can backup my stock ROM first before trying out the custom ROMs. Any help will be highly appreciated.
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Install a custom recovery like 4EXT in the guide you posted and from there flash superuser. I've attached the file you need.
Hello folks, sorry for the dumb questions but this is new for me. I have HTC One X (AT&T) phone, bought in USA. This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software. I unlocked the phone buying an unlock code from ebay and I am using the phone on another carrier. My question is, how can i manually update my phone (what is the newest update?) since AT&T is not a carrier in my country and I cannot update automatically.
At the moment my software information are:
Android version 4.0.3
HTC Sense version 4.0
Software number 1.85.502.3 710RD
Kernel version 3.0.8-01155-gca24d1eroo[email protected] # SMP PREEMPT (why is there root in the kernel version, my phone has never been rooted?)
Build number 1.85.502.3_R2 CL63811 release-keys
Doing this manual update if possible will the phone be locked to AT&T again, or my phone will remain unlocked?
I'm sorry for my bad english and sorry if there is already a question like this (I watched the noob video and did use the search button)
Thank you in advance
If you ever want to root or flash custom ROMs or other mods, I would advise not installing the latest (2.20) version AT&T firmware. Installing the official 2.20 firmware updates the bootloader, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery.
If you want root, I would root on 1.85, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader. Then you can install any firmware you want, including stock rooted versions that are more up to date than 2.20.
If you still want to install the 2.20 firmware, you can download the RUU (ROM updated utility) from HTC and run it on a PC, with the phone connected via USB. The phone should remain SIM unlocked after running the RUU. But RUU will wipe your data partition (but not the internal SD).
A lot of this may be over your head, so this may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784459
redpoint73 said:
If you ever want to root or flash custom ROMs or other mods, I would advise not installing the latest (2.20) version AT&T firmware. Installing the official 2.20 firmware updates the bootloader, which plugs the holes by which kernels and radios can be flashed from recovery.
If you want root, I would root on 1.85, SuperCID, and unlock bootloader. Then you can install any firmware you want, including stock rooted versions that are more up to date than 2.20.
If you still want to install the 2.20 firmware, you can download the RUU (ROM updated utility) from HTC and run it on a PC, with the phone connected via USB. The phone should remain SIM unlocked after running the RUU. But RUU will wipe your data partition (but not the internal SD).
A lot of this may be over your head, so this may help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784459
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Thank you redpoint73 for your answer, I will follow your advice and will root it on 1.85.
I suppose what I should do first is rooting my phone following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167.
Than I should do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284
Please correct me if I am mistaken
After doing all of that which firmware do you suggest or stock rooted version, or its just matter of taste? Now again the same question will I lose my SIM-unlock after rooting mt phone?
StoleMacuk said:
Thank you redpoint73 for your answer, I will follow your advice and will root it on 1.85.
I suppose what I should do first is rooting my phone following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167.
Than I should do this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284
Please correct me if I am mistaken
After doing all of that which firmware do you suggest or stock rooted version, or its just matter of taste? Now again the same question will I lose my SIM-unlock after rooting mt phone?
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The root method you linked is actually for 1.73. You want to use this one for 1.85: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
The SuperCID method you linked is correct.
ROM/firmware is very much a matter of taste, and what features you are looking for. If you want stock, you can install the stock rooted 2.20 AT&T firmware in the Development forum (after unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP). If you want something based on stock, but with cool added features and customizations, look at ViperXL, CleanROM, or Nocturnal LE. But that doesn't mean that any of the other ROMs are not also great. And that doesn't even mention the more "vanilla" (no HTC Sense) Android experience you can get from AOSP based ROMs, and their variants.
The differences and benefits of each are simply too extensive to discuss here. Just start looking at the ROMs and see what looks interesting to you.
Take a look at my index to see all the resources in an organized list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
redpoint73 said:
The root method you linked is actually for 1.73. You want to use this one for 1.85: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
The SuperCID method you linked is correct.
ROM/firmware is very much a matter of taste, and what features you are looking for. If you want stock, you can install the stock rooted 2.20 AT&T firmware in the Development forum (after unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP). If you want something based on stock, but with cool added features and customizations, look at ViperXL, CleanROM, or Nocturnal LE. But that doesn't mean that any of the other ROMs are not also great. And that doesn't even mention the more "vanilla" (no HTC Sense) Android experience you can get from AOSP based ROMs, and their variants.
The differences and benefits of each are simply too extensive to discuss here. Just start looking at the ROMs and see what looks interesting to you.
Take a look at my index to see all the resources in an organized list:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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I have a doubt. As I'm no from USA, I'll have no option to update the firmware over the air. How must I proceed in this part of the manual method?
Won't I have any issues with this?
Thank you guys in advance...
galitore said:
How must I proceed in this part of the manual method?
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My advice? Stop now. If, in fact, "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software," you're not ready to root.
You need to spend the next week (at least) reading and searching and reading some more. Don't come back until you can answer the following questions:
1. What does "rooting" mean, what exactly does it do to your phone?
2. What are you doing when you unlock the bootloader?
3. What's the difference between stock and custom recovery, and stock and custom ROMs?
Once you feel like you understand all this, you're ready to proceed. If you push forward now, you'll almost certain to get into trouble that you won't be able to get out of without extensive help.
iElvis said:
My advice? Stop now. If, in fact, "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software," you're not ready to root.
You need to spend the next week (at least) reading and searching and reading some more. Don't come back until you can answer the following questions:
1. What does "rooting" mean, what exactly does it do to your phone?
2. What are you doing when you unlock the bootloader?
3. What's the difference between stock and custom recovery, and stock and custom ROMs?
Once you feel like you understand all this, you're ready to proceed. If you push forward now, you'll almost certain to get into trouble that you won't be able to get out of without extensive help.
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Hi iElvis,
actually it wasn`t me who said "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software"... it was another member.
I had an Motorola Atrix 4G which I rooted a coupe of times, but this one was made for my country market, differently than my HOX, that is at&t. But in one thing you`re right. I have not much experience with HOX. That`s true...
My question was regarding the part of the manual process which needs a communication between at&t and my cellphone. In this case I wouldn`t find any upgrade option to accept or deny. So i don`t know what would happen in this case... does anyone know?!?!
galitore said:
Hi iElvis,
actually it wasn`t me who said "This is my first android phone and I barely know android as a software"... it was another member.
I had an Motorola Atrix 4G which I rooted a coupe of times, but this one was made for my country market, differently than my HOX, that is at&t. But in one thing you`re right. I have not much experience with HOX. That`s true...
My question was regarding the part of the manual process which needs a communication between at&t and my cellphone. In this case I wouldn`t find any upgrade option to accept or deny. So i don`t know what would happen in this case... does anyone know?!?!
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Whoops! Sorry about that.
As far as I know, the only way is to flash a custom rom with the base you want, or to run the RUU for that base, which will leave you relocked and unrooted.
Guys,
I`been searching for a week here in the forum an answer for my doubt, so I can start flashing custom roms.
I have an at&t HOX with 1.85 firmware, but I don`t live in USA, but in Brasil.
Every thread I`ve looked tells me to use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296) for rooting my cellphone, but I concernd about something.
One of the steps of this method tells me to check for an update via OTA, and then write a code. The point is, i`m not in USA so I have no way to check for OTA softwares updates, so i`m affraid of trying doing this and something bad happen...
Anyone knows if it is safe?!?!
Thank you in advance!!!
galitore said:
Guys,
I`been searching for a week here in the forum an answer for my doubt, so I can start flashing custom roms.
I have an at&t HOX with 1.85 firmware, but I don`t live in USA, but in Brasil.
Every thread I`ve looked tells me to use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296) for rooting my cellphone, but I concernd about something.
One of the steps of this method tells me to check for an update via OTA, and then write a code. The point is, i`m not in USA so I have no way to check for OTA softwares updates, so i`m affraid of trying doing this and something bad happen...
Anyone knows if it is safe?!?!
Thank you in advance!!!
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Yes its safe. Alternatively you could upgrade to 2.20 and root using xfactor, unlock your boot loader and then optionally downgrade your hboot If you want yo flash kernels and radios in recovery
Sent from my HTC One X-
absolutelygrim said:
Yes its safe. Alternatively you could upgrade to 2.20 and root using xfactor, unlock your boot loader and then optionally downgrade your hboot If you want yo flash kernels and radios in recovery
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Ok, absolutelygrim!!
i`ll try the first one, if anything goes wrong i`ll try the second.
Thanks for helping.