Albums, album artist, and other woes of music on android - HTC Sensation

As anyone with a fairly large music collection will attest after a while you become a little id3 tag OCD, but this is downright bizarre. Besides the fact I can't find an android player that acknowledges the tag "album artist" so that compilations can have their proper artist tags and not gum up your music search I know have the problem of one song on one album for no good reason being separated from every other song on the album despite having identical tag information for everything except the obvious track title and track number tags
does anyone know of a decent tag fixer for android, or a player that acknowledges the album artist tag properly (playerpro does not, it hides the tracks from albums that do not have match artist album artist tags)

I'd also like to find a solution for that. Hopefully someone here can help
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the only solution i have found (and believe me, i have tried many) is using Google Music. It groups everything PERFECTLY. the only problem i had with it (besides no lockscreen controls wtf???) was when linking my google music online acct it got all fudged up again. so........just download google music and choose to not link to your online music and everything is sorted perfect.

Try PowerAmp. It's the best music app to date. Every track, album and artist are in the proper album with the proper album art.

fixed at least part of the tag issue, turns out android separates albums by the publisher tag as well and for some reason although I had edited it, it had reverted back. "fun" does not begin to describe this. It is sad that Android does not have a really good music player. I've looked at all the suggested popular players, and quite frankly I find them all lacking. I know my standards are high, but the fact that all but playerpro, and poweramp can't acknowledge folders and instead read all media files on the device, none can handle podcast and music, and none handle compilations well really lead to a bad user experience. unfortunately nothing I've found does it better either.

Where to find Google Music?
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Pete2506 said:
Where to find Google Music?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1072655

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Where to find Google Music?
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The market, I recommend syncing everything from your pc, it saves room and it fixes all my tags
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Incorrectly Tagged Music

I have a huge library of music that is all perfectly tagged in iTunes. Yet when I move to my Nexus One, a lot of it doesn't appear correctly. lots of "unknown artists" or songs in the incorrect track order.
is there something I need to know about doing this correctly? again, all of the music has been meticulously tagged in iTunes.
thanks
I'm no expert on iTunes, but I did used my iPhone 2G for the past two years. All I can tell you is that I believe iTunes keeps tags and all your music info under it's own database (might be wrong ). I don't believe it actually "tags" your mp3 files. That's why I stopped using it to tag my collection.
I use mp3Tag to tag my files, and it even does mp4 movie files.
SuxenNeo said:
I'm no expert on iTunes, but I did used my iPhone 2G for the past two years. All I can tell you is that I believe iTunes keeps tags and all your music info under it's own database (might be wrong ). I don't believe it actually "tags" your mp3 files. That's why I stopped using it to tag my collection.
I use mp3Tag to tag my files, and it even does mp4 movie files.
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I just tied mp3tag and its showing my tags all right but on my N1 its giving loads of incorrect tags...
Weird I'm having the same problem when exporting from my iTunes library...
stewart1988 said:
I just tied mp3tag and its showing my tags all right but on my N1 its giving loads of incorrect tags...
Weird I'm having the same problem when exporting from my iTunes library...
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That is very weird. I have only encounter one of my albums not showing the "cover art" on the Nexus. But all tags are correct and show properly. Maybe rescanning the SD card might help?
iTunes does indeed keep it's own database.
Therefore it doesn't actually embed the info into each track.
Remember to label the file in wondows explorer as well as I think the N1 might use this.
You can enbed all of the info using iTunes so that your music is perfect on all devices but it is tedious, on another post I've commented that I've done 120Gb (21000 songs) of my 300Gb so far.......
Use doubleTwist. Syncs iTunes to pretty much any MP3 device these days. They recently added N1 support. It's free too.
Works perfectly too- all my tags and album artwork are showing up under the standard music app and nemoPlayer from the Liquid.
I stopped using itunes a long time ago and switched to mediamonkey. Each time I put an album in the library I update the tag from the web, this includes the album covers in the mp3 tags. everything copies just fine to the N1.
zjchaser said:
I stopped using itunes a long time ago and switched to mediamonkey. Each time I put an album in the library I update the tag from the web, this includes the album covers in the mp3 tags. everything copies just fine to the N1.
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I love MediaMonkey. I even bought the Pro version .
doubleTwist is nice but what killed it for me is the fact that it doesn't support networked drives Not sure if they fixed this yet.
I have all my content on a NAS.
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iTunes does indeed keep it's own database.
Therefore it doesn't actually embed the info into each track.
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you all sure about this. I've moved my "tagged" items from iTunes many times into different client apps and always had it stay tagged the same way. this is not a challenge to your knowledge simply a "really?"
if indeed true, then to clarify what is the best app to use to tag all my music again so it shows correctly in any other client music app i use it in?
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you all sure about this. I've moved my "tagged" items from iTunes many times into different client apps and always had it stay tagged the same way. this is not a challenge to your knowledge simply a "really?"
if indeed true, then to clarify what is the best app to use to tag all my music again so it shows correctly in any other client music app i use it in?
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I use TagRunner and Tag&Rename.
i'm trying out doubleTwist. LifeHacker swoons about it.
You also have to give the media player a chance to update it's display.
I noticed this when I dumped a bunch of music on it, went immediately to the player and saw a bunch of stuff tagged wrong and then I watched it correct itself after a few seconds and combine some artists that it was seeing wrong.
muncheese said:
You also have to give the media player a chance to update it's display.
I noticed this when I dumped a bunch of music on it, went immediately to the player and saw a bunch of stuff tagged wrong and then I watched it correct itself after a few seconds and combine some artists that it was seeing wrong.
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yea...it's been days though.
Android uses idv2 for identifying tags and it ignores idv1 but there are tagger apps on the market that work well like mp3tagger or tag but if you perfer a PC then go for it.
i've got the problem, that albums are not grouped right. If i got a album from one artist, everything ist ok, but if i've got a album with diferent artists, it is sorted by the artist name an i've got 20 albums (with the same name) and only one track in it, this is very ugly...
like showen in this screenshot. Here you see the album from Rammstein - Liebe ist für alle da (it is only showen one time) but demovibes 9 is showen multiple
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i've got the problem, that albums are not grouped right. If i got a album from one artist, everything ist ok, but if i've got a album with diferent artists, it is sorted by the artist name an i've got 20 albums (with the same name) and only one track in it, this is very ugly...
like showen in this screenshot. Here you see the album from Rammstein - Liebe ist für alle da (it is only showen one time) but demovibes 9 is showen multiple
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Artist needs to be tagged as various, and each artist needs to be tagged in "track artist"
omg, then i need to retag my whole collection...
on every app and device it is working correctly, only on my android phones not, this is evil
co-sign on mediamonkey.
it'll make your changing album artist to "various" really easy.
changed everything in media monkey. was pretty easy as those have said. then deleted entire library in iTunes and added again. I couldn't believe it when they all went back to how they were originally tagged in iTunes. what the heck gives?
Not only that but a bunch of them are tagged one way in Media Monkey and a different way in iTunes.
this is so frustrating....

[Q] HTC music player weirdness with ID3 tags?

The default HTC music player seems to do some odd stuff when generating album lists from ID3 tags!
Some of my albums are split up into 2 or 3 separate albums, I've reset all the ID3 tags and cleared the media cache to no effect.
Anyone else experienced this, anyone know a solution?
Yes, I am experiencing this issue was well... I copied around 3gb of music to my Sensation, and noticed the issue almost immediately. I cleared the media cache, and it *seemed* to fix it, but after a reboot it was back to weirdness.
Weirdness, as defined in my case, is where an artist will have the correct number of albums, but when selecting an album, I am given a track listing from either A) A different album, or B) The album I selected, plus a bunch of different tracks, with incorrect thumbnails for the album... Very strange indeed.
Another bit of weirdness is, once I realize the track list is jacked, I hit the BACK button, and I get a Force Close, with a 'Tell HTC' button. I've hit Tell HTC everytime in an attempt to annoy them... hopefully it gets through.
Philio25 said:
The default HTC music player seems to do some odd stuff when generating album lists from ID3 tags!
Some of my albums are split up into 2 or 3 separate albums, I've reset all the ID3 tags and cleared the media cache to no effect.
Anyone else experienced this, anyone know a solution?
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Do you have different album artist? I have a soundtrack on here and it's split up because the songs have different album artist. Not Artist, Album Artist
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Do you have different album artist? I have a soundtrack on here and it's split up because the songs have different album artist. Not Artist, Album Artist
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Not to speak for the OP, but in my case, the answer is no. I am taking about single artists albums...
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Update... Winamp doesn't exhibit these oddities, therefore, I am switching. I really like the sense player, but can't live with the broken listing. I am sure it will be fixed in the update... Or at least I hope.
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You just need to make sure you have the correct album artist and it works fine.
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You just need to make sure you have the correct album artist and it works fine.
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I do have the correct album artists, and it doesnt work... No changes to the tags, and winamp works fine... YMMV.
even if it says the right artist under 'artist' in the tag, it may have something else under 'album artist'
you can use something like mp3tag to read & edit the tags
http://www.mp3tag.de/en/
Just having a toy with this, on mine looks like i had differing composers.. Just testing to see if that fix's it

Music and Android?

I think this is the one area Apple beats Android, you connect your iPhone it syncs no hassle, On android its all a bit of a nightmare.
I've tried Double Twist but the damn thing is painfully slow to sync, can't edit duplicates and whatever else, it looks good but thats about it.
Winamp looked good on the surface, I made my playlist went to sync it took forever, then when I added more songs to a particular playlist and went to sync again rather than adding to the original playlist on the phone it created another playlist, so you actually have 2 playlist of the same playlist old and new.
So basically I need a way to sync and a player on the phone. I appreciate you can just dump all your tracks on the music folder but its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way, so they would need organised prior to going onto the phone.
Any advice?
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Lol same here, mp3tag owns.
Winamp works fine for me; no duplicate playlists. Maybe give that another shot? I love winamp on the PC though, so my perception may be skewed a bit by fanboyism. You could try the Google Music Beta as well. I thought I wouldn't like it, but having my entire 200 GB music library streamable is pretty handy. Personally, I prefer to manually sort and tag my tracks on my PC.
Combo Winamp + mp3tag.
But i do'nt sync with winamp, putting mp3 on the folders is much faster...
i've been using google's music beta service to stream music to me laptop/phone. works great. only issue is the new music app has no controls in the notification center or lockscreen.
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its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way
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I don't understand. Your music app will automatically find your mp3's and categorize them for you. Just put your MP3's anywhere on your SD card and you're done.
Make music folder, drag and drop
I hated how ipods have to sync, like if I go to my friends house want want some songs then delete my songs then put all of his songs grrr iTunes...
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drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Unfortunately and I can't speak about mp3tag, but dragging and dropping at least doesn't compress the audio file to save space at no reduction of quality. Itunes does this, and Itunes really isn't all that hard to use either.
Audio from Apple devices are better quality most times, but multimedia is one of Apple's strong parts.(Although also a lot of times you won't notice a difference) The original music app for Android is okay for just music, HTC's is okay, Miui is pretty nice, and the new music app from Google is pretty nice too. The audio support for Android is getting better.
I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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rumblee1 said:
I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
Great post and some really useful tips there. I love resource lists like this. Have social bookmarked it in the hope that others can also benefit.
thanks for the tips
I also do drag and drop, but yes apple is smoother in this area.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
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What you are describing here is what I do on "PowerAmp". I have folders (has option for folders or library), then if I want I use the built in "Que" to select songs from different folders. You can also edit tags in PowerAmp.
Wow. And here I thought I was the only one who uses mp3tag.
mp3tag , is a great
+ 1 mp3 tag
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Gorship said:
drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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i use meridian only to play mp3 for a single directory

[Q] Android music player

This is just a general question so I hope I got the right area.
Well my "issue" with it right now is that I got a lot of comp discs on my phone I listen to, but it's annoying cause it lists them each as there own album, just with the same name. They all have the correct tags and album names, but for some reason when I goto the album view it shows them as each song being it's own album with the same name.
Any idea why it won't group them together properly?
So what music player do you guys prefer?
I like Google music app in the market, its free, works and looks good as well, its the same music player as used in ics. I like the cm7 music app, very simple and easy to use, also android music app in the market
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I think poweramp can help u, it can sort with different custom folder

Music Organisation

Is there a way to transfer music from my PC/iTunes without losing all of the information such as album artwork and artist name? Just, when I transfer an album over at the moment, it puts some songs as individual albums instead of with the album their with. For example, I transferred over Some Nights by Fun (great album) and, whilst most of the tracks were fine, Carry On was listed under a separate album. Anyway to avoid this?
Any ideas?
Music Folder Player
Google Play: Music Folder Player
"If you regularly play music on your mobile Android device, then Music Folder Player may come in handy.
It can be annoying when playing ,music without tags for example of your ripped CD’s without downloading the ID3 tag. How about when you’ve added music in a ‘new music folder in your memory card without knowing exactly all the artists/albums? Well, the dev of the app, XDA forum member cyberniko says this is where his app can help.
Music Folder Player is available as a free version in the Market, and the dev is looking for feedback on tablets."
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/music-player-with-filefolder-browsing/
My friend ,
I'll try to explain what i've done with my mp3 library
It's all about the tag stored in the mp3 file itself
There's more than a version of this tag
One file can contain more than one version
That's make the conflict
I'm using a wonderful free software on my pc called mp3tag
There's nothing you can't do in the tag
Give it a try
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Maybe you could give Mediamonkey a try instead of itunes... It also allows syncing with Note.
www.mediamonkey.com
Ps. Not affiliated with this vendor, just sick of the bloated itunes and found a nice alternative.
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Brad387 said:
Is there a way to transfer music from my PC/iTunes without losing all of the information such as album artwork and artist name? Just, when I transfer an album over at the moment, it puts some songs as individual albums instead of with the album their with. For example, I transferred over Some Nights by Fun (great album) and, whilst most of the tracks were fine, Carry On was listed under a separate album. Anyway to avoid this?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.vier.music.syncpro
I use this This is the greatest program I've used! I love iTunes for some reason, and this app syncs everything perfectly for me. I'd highly recommend it. It doesn't sync play count or stars, but that's OK. Playlists are all that I need and a fast easy interface.

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