Incorrectly Tagged Music - Nexus One Themes and Apps

I have a huge library of music that is all perfectly tagged in iTunes. Yet when I move to my Nexus One, a lot of it doesn't appear correctly. lots of "unknown artists" or songs in the incorrect track order.
is there something I need to know about doing this correctly? again, all of the music has been meticulously tagged in iTunes.
thanks

I'm no expert on iTunes, but I did used my iPhone 2G for the past two years. All I can tell you is that I believe iTunes keeps tags and all your music info under it's own database (might be wrong ). I don't believe it actually "tags" your mp3 files. That's why I stopped using it to tag my collection.
I use mp3Tag to tag my files, and it even does mp4 movie files.

SuxenNeo said:
I'm no expert on iTunes, but I did used my iPhone 2G for the past two years. All I can tell you is that I believe iTunes keeps tags and all your music info under it's own database (might be wrong ). I don't believe it actually "tags" your mp3 files. That's why I stopped using it to tag my collection.
I use mp3Tag to tag my files, and it even does mp4 movie files.
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I just tied mp3tag and its showing my tags all right but on my N1 its giving loads of incorrect tags...
Weird I'm having the same problem when exporting from my iTunes library...

stewart1988 said:
I just tied mp3tag and its showing my tags all right but on my N1 its giving loads of incorrect tags...
Weird I'm having the same problem when exporting from my iTunes library...
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That is very weird. I have only encounter one of my albums not showing the "cover art" on the Nexus. But all tags are correct and show properly. Maybe rescanning the SD card might help?

iTunes does indeed keep it's own database.
Therefore it doesn't actually embed the info into each track.
Remember to label the file in wondows explorer as well as I think the N1 might use this.
You can enbed all of the info using iTunes so that your music is perfect on all devices but it is tedious, on another post I've commented that I've done 120Gb (21000 songs) of my 300Gb so far.......

Use doubleTwist. Syncs iTunes to pretty much any MP3 device these days. They recently added N1 support. It's free too.
Works perfectly too- all my tags and album artwork are showing up under the standard music app and nemoPlayer from the Liquid.

I stopped using itunes a long time ago and switched to mediamonkey. Each time I put an album in the library I update the tag from the web, this includes the album covers in the mp3 tags. everything copies just fine to the N1.

zjchaser said:
I stopped using itunes a long time ago and switched to mediamonkey. Each time I put an album in the library I update the tag from the web, this includes the album covers in the mp3 tags. everything copies just fine to the N1.
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I love MediaMonkey. I even bought the Pro version .
doubleTwist is nice but what killed it for me is the fact that it doesn't support networked drives Not sure if they fixed this yet.
I have all my content on a NAS.

Amdathlonuk said:
iTunes does indeed keep it's own database.
Therefore it doesn't actually embed the info into each track.
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you all sure about this. I've moved my "tagged" items from iTunes many times into different client apps and always had it stay tagged the same way. this is not a challenge to your knowledge simply a "really?"
if indeed true, then to clarify what is the best app to use to tag all my music again so it shows correctly in any other client music app i use it in?

DaveKid said:
you all sure about this. I've moved my "tagged" items from iTunes many times into different client apps and always had it stay tagged the same way. this is not a challenge to your knowledge simply a "really?"
if indeed true, then to clarify what is the best app to use to tag all my music again so it shows correctly in any other client music app i use it in?
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I use TagRunner and Tag&Rename.

i'm trying out doubleTwist. LifeHacker swoons about it.

You also have to give the media player a chance to update it's display.
I noticed this when I dumped a bunch of music on it, went immediately to the player and saw a bunch of stuff tagged wrong and then I watched it correct itself after a few seconds and combine some artists that it was seeing wrong.

muncheese said:
You also have to give the media player a chance to update it's display.
I noticed this when I dumped a bunch of music on it, went immediately to the player and saw a bunch of stuff tagged wrong and then I watched it correct itself after a few seconds and combine some artists that it was seeing wrong.
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yea...it's been days though.

Android uses idv2 for identifying tags and it ignores idv1 but there are tagger apps on the market that work well like mp3tagger or tag but if you perfer a PC then go for it.

i've got the problem, that albums are not grouped right. If i got a album from one artist, everything ist ok, but if i've got a album with diferent artists, it is sorted by the artist name an i've got 20 albums (with the same name) and only one track in it, this is very ugly...
like showen in this screenshot. Here you see the album from Rammstein - Liebe ist für alle da (it is only showen one time) but demovibes 9 is showen multiple

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i've got the problem, that albums are not grouped right. If i got a album from one artist, everything ist ok, but if i've got a album with diferent artists, it is sorted by the artist name an i've got 20 albums (with the same name) and only one track in it, this is very ugly...
like showen in this screenshot. Here you see the album from Rammstein - Liebe ist für alle da (it is only showen one time) but demovibes 9 is showen multiple
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Artist needs to be tagged as various, and each artist needs to be tagged in "track artist"

omg, then i need to retag my whole collection...
on every app and device it is working correctly, only on my android phones not, this is evil

co-sign on mediamonkey.
it'll make your changing album artist to "various" really easy.

changed everything in media monkey. was pretty easy as those have said. then deleted entire library in iTunes and added again. I couldn't believe it when they all went back to how they were originally tagged in iTunes. what the heck gives?
Not only that but a bunch of them are tagged one way in Media Monkey and a different way in iTunes.
this is so frustrating....

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Help me fix pocket player. or suggest alternative player

Ok, so i really would love to fix few problems in pocket player, namely, there are a few of my songs just not playing for some reasons, they are mp3 just like all the others ripped from their discs just like the rest but just wont work, any suggestions?
also, the library seem to have a problem in common with WMP, at least for where i get songs ending up in unkown albums or artist (in wmp i also get multiple albums with the exact same name under the same artis when they really should be one album)even though they are put in the correct album/artist in my computers wmp library.
Please any suggestions what might be wrong? I have put the music on the card several times both by the phones link cable or the memory card plugged directly in to the computer.
Also feel free to suggest any good free media players, mortplayer is good, but i cant seem to find a way to get it to work in landscape mode so... otherwise its great with its changer mode and all...
Leonick said:
Ok, so i really would love to fix few problems in pocket player, namely, there are a few of my songs just not playing for some reasons, they are mp3 just like all the others ripped from their discs just like the rest but just wont work, any suggestions?
also, the library seem to have a problem in common with WMP, at least for where i get songs ending up in unkown albums or artist (in wmp i also get multiple albums with the exact same name under the same artis when they really should be one album)even though they are put in the correct album/artist in my computers wmp library.
Please any suggestions what might be wrong? I have put the music on the card several times both by the phones link cable or the memory card plugged directly in to the computer.
Also feel free to suggest any good free media players, mortplayer is good, but i cant seem to find a way to get it to work in landscape mode so... otherwise its great with its changer mode and all...
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Hi
I don´t know how to help you to fix your pocket player but I can recommend you S2P it´s fantastic! you can check it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417511
Good luck,
Yea ive tried s2p, but i just dont like its folder view, i want to see the folders on my memory card too please i have my songs categorized in folders... or the fact i need to swipe left for next album, should be right
so thanks for the suggestion but... just dosnt work that great, yet, i do think it will be the greatest player some day
Leonick said:
Yea ive tried s2p, but i just dont like its folder view, i want to see the folders on my memory card too please i have my songs categorized in folders... or the fact i need to swipe left for next album, should be right
so thanks for the suggestion but... just dosnt work that great, yet, i do think it will be the greatest player some day
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TCPMP is another option, but will be good to know which ones you already tested so we can help you better
Ive tried,
WMP
MortPlayer
Pocket Player
S2P
this far pocket player is my favourite axept for the stated problems (and it could really use a change mode, switching album when the current ends), though mort is perfectly fine, except for the lack of landscape mode
(as for those few songs that wont play in pocket player, they play in the other players ive tried)
Leonick said:
Ive tried,
WMP
MortPlayer
Pocket Player
S2P
this far pocket player is my favourite axept for the stated problems (and it could really use a change mode, switching album when the current ends), though mort is perfectly fine, except for the lack of landscape mode
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Well we are advancing
Try one of this ones then:
winampaq
gsplayer
PocketMelody
Core Player
PocketMusic
Simpletunes
Sounds like your problem is with the files, not the players.
TheChampJT said:
Sounds like your problem is with the files, not the players.
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I think you´re right mate, perhaps the problem is how they are organized...
ok ill try those out, but if its the files that are fault isnt it strange that pocket player is the only player of both mobile and pc ones that wont play it? the others from the same discs play without problems
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
Alilynx said:
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
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Yes it will play AAC files.
As far as not seeing or playing the other files, it could be the encoding/ripping that was done. What program did you use and how did you tag the MP3's? That will have a great impact on the result of Pocketplayer seeing and playing the files.
I personally love Pocket Player and will use nothing less. There are a lot of great apps out there, but PP has everything in it including the kitchen sink.
If you would like to try and re-rip some of your CD's I recommend you use EAC (Exact Audio Copy) with the lame format. You can google EAC and lame's latest download. Then google EAC setup and you will find a few great reads on how to set it up perfectly for what you want, even AAC if you desire.
Just my two cents.
I've had problems with songs not showing in the library or being shown in another album or artist. This was due to missing correct data in the AlbumArtist tag of the files (songs). I just updated these tags for all my songs and the library now displays them correctly. Also, some other files, like small wavs will not be included in the library if you have checked the HIDE SMALL FILES... option.
Alilynx said:
Can Pocket Player play AAC files?
I'm sure before I did a hard reset on my Xperia I had it playing those files. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to play everything from my iTunes library but the protected files, and now it plays only mp3 not m4a.
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Please make sure you make a search for my articles - this question has also been answered in one of them. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350786
dgaud007 said:
I've had problems with songs not showing in the library or being shown in another album or artist. This was due to missing correct data in the AlbumArtist tag of the files (songs). I just updated these tags for all my songs and the library now displays them correctly. Also, some other files, like small wavs will not be included in the library if you have checked the HIDE SMALL FILES... option.
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btw, I've also devoted an entire article to these q's: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415063
My Pocket Player did used to play my m4a files, but since I did a hard reset and have installed the latest version of Pocket Player when I load up an album that is in m4a file format, it wont play. It shows them, but wont play them, exactly as if they were protected files bought from the iTunes Store, which in the case they are not.
I've tried going back to the old version of Pocket Player, but the same problem now happens there.
I've used Missing Sync for Windows Mobile on my Mac to put the files across, and they work fine on Core Player.
It's bad enough that my Xperia wont play protected aac/m4a files without all now not playing... eek...
Upgrading to Pocket Player 4 fixed this problem.
Alilynx said:
Upgrading to Pocket Player 4 fixed this problem.
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I was going to suggest that very thing. Good to hear you got it resolved.

Music Player -Not enough space in Music Database

Hello everyone,
Looking for a solution to an issue with the Music Player I have stumbled across within the first couple days of using the Captivate.
I have an external 16GB sd card filled with mp3s that has ~2GB free. When opening Music Player I find all of my files are there, but if I try switching to "Artists" view the application will close and I will get the message "Not Enough Space in Music Database". My internal sd card does not have any media on it so this card is nearly 100% empty.
It's pretty annoying not having the ability to sort by artists as you could imagine.
Sorry if this has been covered already, but I couldn't find anything in the Captivate forum about it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.
I had the same problem. I'm now using the cubed music player without any problems, and I really like it. Check it out here.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/03/23/android-quick-app-3-or-cubed-music-player/
Thanks for the suggestion. I've got it running now and I am happy with this.
Same Problem / Posted to T-Mobile Forums
I have the same problem [Not Enough Space in Music Database] error occurs when trying to sort by Artist or searching (for anything) from the Music Player.
It would be nice to have a fix for the Samsung/stock Music Player (which can't be removed) instead of installing yet another redundant application.
tjtaylor said:
I have the same problem [Not Enough Space in Music Database] error occurs when trying to sort by Artist or searching (for anything) from the Music Player.
It would be nice to have a fix for the Samsung/stock Music Player (which can't be removed) instead of installing yet another redundant application.
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I was looking around in dbdata/databases/media and there are some artist databases and such in there that I thought might have something to do with this, but I don't really know what they do or anything.
Maybe someone who knows more than I do could look at them and see if they notice anything strange that may be causing the problem.
Works with 30 Artists
After deleting most of the music library from the phone [reduced to 30 artists from 181] I was able to use the Vibrant Music Player to organize by Artist.
I too had the same problem: 32 gb SanDisk card installed with 3260 songs and I am not sure how many artists. Coming from an iPhone 3Gs, I was not happy with the native program's GUI, and not being able to sort by artist made searching nearly impossible.
I reformatted the card, and am in the midst of rebuilding some playlists in iTunes, and importing using iTunes Sync (I believe that is the name of the program; I am on my laptop right now). As of now, I have 463 songs, and 3 genres. Music Player recognizes artists, and displays them fine, at this point.
I did find a different music player with (IMO) a better GUI; it is called MixZing. The free version has ads, and after playing with the advanced features like a 10 band eq, I think it is well worth the 5 bucks for the full version.
Just my .02; hope it helps.
SmoovC said:
I too had the same problem: 32 gb SanDisk card installed with 3260 songs and I am not sure how many artists. Coming from an iPhone 3Gs, I was not happy with the native program's GUI, and not being able to sort by artist made searching nearly impossible.
I reformatted the card, and am in the midst of rebuilding some playlists in iTunes, and importing using iTunes Sync (I believe that is the name of the program; I am on my laptop right now). As of now, I have 463 songs, and 3 genres. Music Player recognizes artists, and displays them fine, at this point.
I did find a different music player with (IMO) a better GUI; it is called MixZing. The free version has ads, and after playing with the advanced features like a 10 band eq, I think it is well worth the 5 bucks for the full version.
Just my .02; hope it helps.
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I'm using MixZing too. I really like the lock screen widget, and I even bought the full version.
If you want something thats a little more... fun. Try cubed. It has a really cool interface, but I like the usability of MixZing a bit better.
dontshakepandas said:
I'm using MixZing too. I really like the lock screen widget, and I even bought the full version.
If you want something thats a little more... fun. Try cubed. It has a really cool interface, but I like the usability of MixZing a bit better.
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I did try "3", and it is fun to play with. I like the functionality of MixZing better for when I'm driving and trying to flip through tunes.
Yes, you are right: the lock screen widget is great; thanks for mentioning it as I forgot that feature.
Wow, this problem is devastating. I still haven't transfered and organized all my music but I don't want to use another app. The default one is perfect, I can pause/skip from lockscreen and swipe down the status bar while working with the phone.
But most importantly: The virtual surround sound! I can't let that go and use another application!
I'm also having this issue..my internal card has around 11 gigs of music. I synced using media monkey and set it to embed album art into the tags, could that have something to do with it?
I too am rooted, have 10 gigs of music and album art on my external 16 gig sd card and have no issues sorting by any means via the default music player.
I've installed titanium backup, busybox, rom manager, launcher pro and a few have fun apps. Uninstalled all the AT&T junk. If that helps.
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I have about 17GB of music on an SD card, and I ran into this issue. The card was recently formatted, and my Android installation is pretty clean.
I realize 17GB of music is a lot, and I know I could pare it down to work around this problem, but nonetheless I'm very disappointed that Samsung didn't put together a better database system.
Mixzing and Cubed can handle it. The stock music app is really great otherwise, but this issue basically ruins it for me. C'mon, Samsung.
I found this post by DLarva in the Vibrant Forum... perhaps this is the key:
DLarva said:
OK, well I thought was the number of artists, but now I'm not so sure.
Maybe it has something to do with how the app handles various artists and/or unknown artists.
I added all my music, then deleted tracks from various artist albums until it worked again. I then put back the various artist album track and it didn't work, as expected.
I thought this was artist based, but when I got it working again--by deleting the track mentioned above--and then added a track for a various artist album by an artist that already existed, the app crashed too.
I then thought it might be song based. So I removed that song and then added a set of songs. However, it unexpectantly worked.
The difference with the set of songs added above is that they weren't part of a various artist album. They were a new artist, but the main album artist wasn't Various with a Contributing artist of the actual artist name. Instead, the Album Artist was the artist name and the contributing artist was left blank (or had the same name).
So, it is that the music app doesn't understand how to handle various artist albums?
Could someone else with this problem remove all the various artist albums from their collection and see if their app works again?
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Even the stock android music player can handle it. I don't think its a database issue but instead a bug in the music player itself.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
I just hit the same roadblock.
No one have any definitive answers yet? Besides "Buy an iPod" ?
Anyone know just how many artists it can take before it crashes?
There's a workaround... just get rid of/rename your various artist tracks. As long as you don't have too many tracks by "Various Artists", you will not have this issue any more. I have 8 gigs of music on my SD card and no issues with sorting by artist.
ScottyNuttz said:
There's a workaround... just get rid of/rename your various artist tracks. As long as you don't have too many tracks by "Various Artists", you will not have this issue any more. I have 8 gigs of music on my SD card and no issues with sorting by artist.
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I have about 16gb of music split between my internal and external SD cards. None of my mp3s are tagged with "Various Artists" in the artist field, yet I still experience the "Not enough space..." error when attempting to sort by Artist. However, all other sort filters work fine.
Does anyone know if the leaked JI6 ROM still has this issue?
Workaround <G> Well, I deleted the soundtrack and collection albums from the microSD card, that works too.
I'd rather not lose the artist names from the MP3 tags but I guess putting "Samsung ****S" in there instead would also serve the purpose.
There must be a terribly small limit (128? 256?) on the number of records/fields in that database, because I really didn't have THAT many artist names. Maybe two dozen primaries, then only 6 discs of "collections", like the 4-disc Woodstock set. Odds are there are 128 artists in all--and that's enough to crash a database?!
ROFL, with tears in my eyes. Was this stuff written by programmers, or Pinky And The Brain? As if it would be SO HARD to release an update? And compete with an iPod?
[LATER]
I think I've just discovered another and greater reason to dump the Samsung/AT&T Music Player: It inserts breaks! Like the Windows Media Player, it is incapable of playing two consecutive tracks without inserting a pause.
If you have ever listened to Simon & Garfunkel, or Pink Floyd, or The Moody Blues, or Jefferson Airplane/Starship....there are many albums that segue from one track into the next WITHOUT ANY BREAK. Now this nasty little cheapware comes along, and to me it sounds just like a skip in an LP, there's a half second of dead silence interrupting the playback. That's just plain nasty, considering all the software has to do is pre-fetch, buffer the next track and keep playing.
Looks like I'm going shopping...and then doing a little root & spring cleaning with the trash, unless Samsung fix this all in the Froyo release.
"Dear Samsung and AT&T: Grow up! There's no excuse for this kind of software getting onto the market in this day and age. You can and MUST do better."

Why is it so hard to find a decent music player?

It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
mwxiao said:
It's things like this that makes me frustrated about Android. There is so much noise about hotspot, or tethering, or other geeky stuff that are pretty useless for regular users. But the music player, a standard feature for every phone nowadays, is really bad.
All I want is to transfer the damn songs with playlist and play on my phone!
Well, the stock player doesn't recognize playlist.
So I have to use other music apps.
I have tried doubleTwist. It doesn't recognize playlist created by its own desktop app. And also, you have to use its desktop app to sync music. And the syncing is not so good, lots of Artwork is missing.
I then turn to Cubed (superscript 3). It's cool. It reads my playlist. But it creates duplicated ones. In other words, every time you sync your music, it creates new playlist. I did a little research, it turns out it's the problem of the OS. If you copy your songs to external SD, the OS will scan them and then create duplicated list. Music players just read the list from the OS.
Another problem of Cubed is, if I manually copy music to SD card, all my artworks are gone.
I have tried other *free* music players on the market. None of them works perfectly. And I am so cheap that I don't want to pay for a feature that a smartphone should easily have.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Are you coming from an iTunes? Many of the problems with artwork deal with the way the artwork is embedded. AAC files do tags poorly and I had to rerip all my files to MP3 and make sure that the artwork was embedded in the tags and not in a folder. I used MediaMonkey to sync my music to my phone. I don't use playlists - I just put about 2GB of music on and pick what i want. The stock music player works great for me in this regard.
The stock music player allows local playlists, but so far doesn't import them. I think it is a matter of discovering name and format.
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Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
I feel your pain; I've had trouble finding a music player I really liked too. As of now, I'm just using the stock Samsung Music Player.
...which actually isn't that bad. It works well enough and the 5.1 feature is awesome.
check doubletwist. very good GUI and has itunes compatibility but I have not used that personally
DoubleTwist is a good music player and can export your playlists from itunes. They syncing is a bit slow tho.
I really had a hard time with doubletwist, and it took forever to start up on the pc.
I would recommend 'Songbird' on the desktop. It's built on top of a Mozilla Firefox framework, has great plug-ins and extensions, and via MTP can sync playlists with M3Us to the captivate, and then mixzing as the player on the captivate.
noidd said:
Try this:
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751429
It works great for me and along with the mp3tagger pro app that lets you edit the ID3 tags and download artwork, its been a huge timesaver for me.
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Thanks a lot. The Android music player is much better than the Samsung one. Though I have a few bugs for just 10 min of try. Well, it's actually not a big of a deal. Playlist works fine, album art works fine. And that's all I am asking for.
closeshave2 said:
I've had pretty good success using an app called "isynchr" available in the market. It's not free, though! But it allows you to take your playlists from iTunes, copy them (and the songs) over to your phone and play everything using the music player that came on the phone.
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+1 on this app, you can use the stock samsung player, and double twist recongizes the playlists as well. it was much easier and faster on my computer as well. syching around 6 gigs of music only took around 15 mintues as opposed to over 2 hours with double twist.
ANOTHER good and easy to use apps is called "itunes agent". All you have to do is plug in the phone as USB drive and use it to sync you songs. Check it out. I use it for my WinMo phone and it is probably one of the best tool for sync songs to my phne.
mwxiao said:
Thanks for your reply. I have a relatively big library in iTunes so playlist is kinda of necessary for me. It really sucks that the stock music player can't do it.
I didn't know about the iTunes artworks problem. All my song files are .mp3. I thought artwork was embedded in the file.
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I had all my music in iTunes (many files were AAC - ripped that way before i knew better) and I learned the hardway that iTunes some funky things. I actually used MP3tag to fix the tags - lots of Android phones don't like the tags if some fields are empty - this has the effect of showing uknown artist and maybe empty album art. iTunes added some funky stuff to some of the tags, so once i got it all cleaned up and made sure the album artwork was embedded in the tags all was good.
As for playlists - you could try Samsung Kies - it does sync with the phone and allows you to make playlists. I have not tried it for syncing yet.

Music and Android?

I think this is the one area Apple beats Android, you connect your iPhone it syncs no hassle, On android its all a bit of a nightmare.
I've tried Double Twist but the damn thing is painfully slow to sync, can't edit duplicates and whatever else, it looks good but thats about it.
Winamp looked good on the surface, I made my playlist went to sync it took forever, then when I added more songs to a particular playlist and went to sync again rather than adding to the original playlist on the phone it created another playlist, so you actually have 2 playlist of the same playlist old and new.
So basically I need a way to sync and a player on the phone. I appreciate you can just dump all your tracks on the music folder but its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way, so they would need organised prior to going onto the phone.
Any advice?
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
em.20 said:
Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Lol same here, mp3tag owns.
Winamp works fine for me; no duplicate playlists. Maybe give that another shot? I love winamp on the PC though, so my perception may be skewed a bit by fanboyism. You could try the Google Music Beta as well. I thought I wouldn't like it, but having my entire 200 GB music library streamable is pretty handy. Personally, I prefer to manually sort and tag my tracks on my PC.
Combo Winamp + mp3tag.
But i do'nt sync with winamp, putting mp3 on the folders is much faster...
i've been using google's music beta service to stream music to me laptop/phone. works great. only issue is the new music app has no controls in the notification center or lockscreen.
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its impossible to organise 1000+ MP3's this way
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I don't understand. Your music app will automatically find your mp3's and categorize them for you. Just put your MP3's anywhere on your SD card and you're done.
Make music folder, drag and drop
I hated how ipods have to sync, like if I go to my friends house want want some songs then delete my songs then put all of his songs grrr iTunes...
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drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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Nothing easier than put the mp3's in the media folder. Why do you think, syncing with ITunes is easier. I hate that software.
I'm organising my mp3 with mp3tag!
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Unfortunately and I can't speak about mp3tag, but dragging and dropping at least doesn't compress the audio file to save space at no reduction of quality. Itunes does this, and Itunes really isn't all that hard to use either.
Audio from Apple devices are better quality most times, but multimedia is one of Apple's strong parts.(Although also a lot of times you won't notice a difference) The original music app for Android is okay for just music, HTC's is okay, Miui is pretty nice, and the new music app from Google is pretty nice too. The audio support for Android is getting better.
I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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I originally used doubletwist but it kept doubling, trippling, and even quadrupled the number of times a song was in my library. Finally went to ISYNCR &isyncrwifi. Works great, fast.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
Great post and some really useful tips there. I love resource lists like this. Have social bookmarked it in the hope that others can also benefit.
thanks for the tips
I also do drag and drop, but yes apple is smoother in this area.
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It did that to me as well and that's the problem with most of these syncing solutions, there is no common sense.
And as for putting all on 1 folder in the SD card, Now say I want song 3 from album A on a playlist followed by song 6 from Album E and so on there is no easy way of organizing this on the phone which is why I like it done on the PC, I have various genres of music, I don't want a hardcore trance song followed by country.
Google music doesn't work in the UK either
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What you are describing here is what I do on "PowerAmp". I have folders (has option for folders or library), then if I want I use the built in "Que" to select songs from different folders. You can also edit tags in PowerAmp.
Wow. And here I thought I was the only one who uses mp3tag.
mp3tag , is a great
+ 1 mp3 tag
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drag and drop to SD card. never used 3rd party... seems silly.
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i use meridian only to play mp3 for a single directory

META inf files?(SOLVED)

Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
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Where are they held?
The reason I'm asking is when I put music onto my SDcard no matter what player I use it misses over half of my albums. Itunes to my Ipod has no such conflict. So doing a little research lead me to the meta inf? If a folder gets transferred to storage it should still contain the meta data right? How do you make that data readable to the system?(for the record mizing, uber, miui, and stock all have the same results).
Thanks
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How are you putting the music onto the sd card?
From harddrive to folder to sdcard. So all the info pulled from the harddrive should be there? My music collection is very tight. Meaning all songs and album art are held in a single folder. Any ideas?
Are there by any chance any .nomedia files in the folders?
No .nomedia files in any of the folders.
What formats are you using on your music?
.m4a is the file type.
You might've downloaded some aac files from the itunes store right? Are you sure none of them have drm? Android won't be able to read them if they do
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No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
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No aac files and I've never used itunes store. All of my music comes from other free sources. It's weird. I have about 50 albums and half are recognized half are not. The ones that aren't have the correct song names come up and even the correct album name but for some reason the artists name isn't being read.
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What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
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What are you using to manage your music library anyway?
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On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
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On the computer I use Itunes(I have a Mac) on the phone either the stock player or the miui player that comes with AUDIOPHILE FTW. I've tried mizing as well. Thanks FB for looking into this.
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Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
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Yeah this is a little odd. I'm sure you've tried the folder mode on mixzing? Can you give winamp a shot?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nullsoft.winamp
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Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
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Tried winamp same thing. What is going on? On a side note tried winamps shoutcast for a second. How does Van Morrison end up on alternative?!
The only thing I can think to do is redo my music folder and download it again to my phone. It's crazy the files aren't corrupt because they play.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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It might be a tagging issue. Not sure what method itunes uses to tag its files since mp3 files tend to use id3. That's why I'm glad on windows, Mediamonkey handles all the tagging. I have my folder structure really organized so that if I try to look for music from just a computer, no music player, I can find it.
/music/Album Artist/[<Album year>] Album/Track# Track title.
If you can get on parallels or bootcamp and can get mediamonkey on windows I'd give it a shot. I'll tell you how to force an update of the songs' metadata.
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My music is organized the same way. I'll give media monkey a try when I get some time. Still gonna try just redownloading my music to the sd card when I get some time as well. I'll let you know how it goes. If you have any other ideas let me know.
Thanks
I have this same problem. I use Winamp to sync with my android. And i made sure using both Winamp and an independent tagging program that all my files have tags (artist, album, cover, etc.) and yet half of them still are not read on my phone. Not by Google Music app, not by Winamp, and not by Samsung Stock Player.
Could it be the file types that dont work?
The ones that DO have Artists reading all have the correct album artwork. The ones that DO NOT have artists according to my players all have albums, but about half of them do not have album artwork (the rest do). I'm not sure what's going on. I think it's an error within the Media Scanner?
(on a side note- if you include the track number in the file name of your song, it will show up as that when playing. I would recommend not putting the track number in the file name.)
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I never figured out what's going on. Just learned to live with it. I think I might start playing around with it again and try to come up with some answers. If you figure it out let me know.
Im gonna look into it some more later, but i THINK it has something to do with the file type at this point. But don't quote me on that haha.
Just redid all my music. pulled all Itunes related crap out of the folders and it's still not recognizing about half of them. Gonna try some other stuff later. File type isn't part of it I don't think. It still recognizes and plays just shows up under unknown.
I just looked through mine and it seemed that all the files with unknown artist were in .m4a whereas the ones that recognized the artist were in .mp3
could you check and see if yours is the same way?

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