Method of DUAL sync for Android like with WindowsMobile? 1way&full sync - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

I have a very large database of 5000+ contacts in Outlook.
I want to maintain this database and add my new Android contacts to this database.
However, this database is too large to keep on my phone.
So, I want to run two separate syncs so I can maintain two separate databases.
#1. A one way sync that ads all of my android contacts to my existing master database in Outlook that will NEVER delete any information from the master Outlook database on my laptop hard drive.
#2. A full sync that will that will allow me to backup and sync my phones database which of about 100 frequently used contacts.
I have just purchased both a new EVO Shift 4G phone (added to my collection ofevery Windows/HTC phone released on Sprint) AND a new Windows 7 laptop (added to my Windows XP desktop).
So, I believe I am going to have to get Outlook for Windows 7 onto my newlaptop. (Even though I have MANY Outlook licenses that I have PAID for with all of my Windows Mobile Phone purchases. 6700, Mogul, TP1, TP2)
As an example, I used the process below to accomplish what I am looking todo with Android with all of my previous HTC/Windows phones, the Outlooksoftware that came with those phones, and my Windows XP laptop.
#1. I would save a PIM file on my SD card with about 100 contacts and name it by the current calendar date.
#2. I would then do a FULL sync with Activesync between my desktop Outlookdatabase (my master database) and the phone. Unfortunately, that would put all5000+ contacts in my phone.
#3. I would then restore the PIM file from the SD card with the 100 or sofrequently used contacts.
This method above would allow me to keep a master database AND a phonedatabase and I would really like to do the same with Android.
Thanks for reading this.
I hope I relayed what I am looking to accomplish apologize if I rambled on.
Thanks in advance for any help.

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Telephone Contacts in Excel

Hello,
I am going to try and get an HTC Touch Pro from Vodafone UK when they get themselves into gear and specify a real release date for the device but have the following question.
I ahve all my contacts listed in an excel file, name in first, home number in second, mobile third and work 4th. When I get my touch pro, is there a way to import these contacts from this excel document into contacts on the phone?
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
Not that I know of. One great thing about this device however, is every new call (in or out) that comes through the phone offers to add the number to the contact list. If the number is in the correct format in Excel, you should be able to click and dial the number. Then hang up, fill in names.
That sounds like the long approach...and of course, if your contact list is like mine, that is 400 calls you hang up on, and a lot of minutes on your plan for the month.
THANK GAWD FOR OUTLOOK...HAVEN'T HAD TO MANUALLY ENTER A NUMBER IN 4 YEARS!!!
there is a way
sync your phone with outlook, go to outlook import
and then import from another program or file, and see what options is best for you there
import it into contacts...
you should be able to use ppcbckpcontacts that someone on here wrote and posted a while back. It recognizes excel without having to sync to outlook.
are you serious bro? Wow that is too much work. Get software called PIM. It is free PPC Pim Backup and you wont need to use outlook or excel. Just back it up, restore.. Set it andddddd forget it
I can't get either of the two programs you all suggested to work. They keep telling me they are not valid win 32 applications.
Any other ideas and also I do not wish to use Outlook or Outlook Express. The only contact databases I wish to use are the contact list in Opera, Windows Vista Contacts folder or my Excel Telephone list whcih I ahve started.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
rctneil said:
I can't get either of the two programs you all suggested to work. They keep telling me they are not valid win 32 applications.
Any other ideas and also I do not wish to use Outlook or Outlook Express. The only contact databases I wish to use are the contact list in Opera, Windows Vista Contacts folder or my Excel Telephone list whcih I ahve started.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Regards,
Neil
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Try running them on the phone
Your best solution is as what mospantagruel suggested.
Sync your PDA to your PC/Notebook
Open Outlook (your contacts should be synced)
Try to export your contacts to excel and study the fields name
Either move your contacts from your existing Excel worksheet or modify it (the fields name) to match the one you exported
Go back to Outlook
Import from Excel
Ok, As I stated in my first post, I do not have a phone yet which is why I said that so I kind of expected applications for the pc.
and again, I DO NOT WISH TO USE OUTLOOK OR ANY PART OF OUTLOOK IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.
I agree with the Outlook technique, even though I've just installed PIMBackup to backup my machine before sending it to repair, and that program seems very very good. Might be feasible to do it through IPMBackup.
But on Outlook it will be much easier...
(God Bless Microsoft for the office suite... it is just great!)

How to get phonenumbers to HTC

Dear Forum,
I am currently using a Nokia E51 and will be getting the HTC Touch HD in the next few days. As I have been a Nokia user for the last 5 years I am unsure of the best way to get my contacts to the HTC. Until now I had no problems as it is easy to transfer Nokia to Nokia. What should I do? I have no Outlook on my PC and the only other place I have my contacts at the moment is on ovi.com (a Nokia website to sync your mobile)
Any suggestions (for instance software) would be most welcome.
Thank you for your patience and any help on this matter.
Simple!
Go to your CONTACTS in your Nokia. Then OPTIONS - SELECT - SELECT ALL
Then copy all to your SD card. They will be saved as standard vCards which then can be easily opened and saved in your WM device.
Downside:
You will have to open and save each single one but still better than having to type in everything again!
If you have Microsoft Outlook you can import all your VCards to outlook and then all you have to do is Syncronize your device with outlook on your computer. May save some steps or at least make it easier
what about saving to SIM card and then delete them once their in your phone?
Thanks for all the help guys
I'll try first with the sim card. I didn't think of that because I am so used to having those old ones where you could only save 1 phone number per name. I acquired an umts card (sorry, am german, not sure if it's called the same in the u.k.) only recently. If that fails, then SD card and a nice train journey while I open/save each contact
Outlook I don't have, so I'll look into getting that maybe, but I remember it being quite pricy as a stand alone product

SOLVED. How to sync contacts from your Nokia phone to your HTC Windows Mobile phone?

Hello,
I had a Nokia 6620 and I synced all the contacts with my laptop running Vista through Nokia PC Suite. I have a folder named "Contacts" in Vista now, which is also linked to the Windows Live Mail. Windows Live Mail is supposed to be the updated version of Outlook Express. When I opened Windows Mobile Device Center to sync all the contacts and calendar items to my HTC Fuze, the options to sync my contacts and calendar are disabled. Am I doing something wrong here? How do I sync all the data, which was stored on my Vista system by Nokia PC Suite, with my HTC Fuze, without opening a Windows account? Is there any other application I can use for this, other than Windows Mobile Device Center?
Thanks,
Keith
I am really stuck with all my contacts in Windows "Contacts" folder and not being able to sync them with my HTC Fuze. I would really appreciate if someone can point me in the right direction or help me out. Thanks.
Now I could be way off here so apologies if that is the case. I think WMDC only deals with Outlook (not Outlook Express). If that is the case then try importing your contacts into Outlook and then re-setting up your sync settings. That might help.
Another thing to consider is to go into Activesync on your device and then options. Look at what it thinks it is syncing. If contacts are already set to sync with something, then uncheck this and run the WMDC connections wizard again. You may find that this time you can select the contacts folder this time.
As I said, I could be way off as I am not a computer guru by any stretch of the imagination. All the best.
Sorry, 1 more thought. You may want to try and uninstal Nokia PC suite-it could be that WMDC sees the contacts being synced with Nokia PC suite and thus wont allow it to sync with your HTC. If you do unistall just remember to back up your contacts etc otherwise you could end up loosing them all. Not good me thinks!
Nokia Suite maintains its own database which is independent of Outlook's. Both can reside on the PC without conflict, however, the OP needs to have the data (Contatcs/Tasks/Notes/Cal, etc) in Outlook to sync to WM devices.
@incisivekeith
Easiest way to deal with this is:
Export out of the PC Suite to csv format (comma separated)
Import into Outlook
Sync with addressbook in outlook (combine records)
Sync with phone using active sync
Thank you everyone for your responses, but I have been struggling with another major issue here now. As I mentioned in my earlier post, I was not able to select contacts and other data in Windows MObile Device Center, so I unstalled WMDC as well as the device driver update. I restarted my system and when I installed both the WMDC driver update and WMDC istself, my system doesn't recognize my Fuze anymore. Not only that, I don't have many options in WMDC now, and, the WMDC window doesn't open most of the times. I have tried uninstalling both of them again, installing their versions from Microsoft's Web site, but to no avail. So now, I have the following problems:
1. I don't have functioning WMDC
2. When I connect my Fuze, it is not recognized, although the system makes a sound that there is something connected on the USB port
3. Vista has Windows Mail, not Outlook or Outlook Express
In response to suggestions about Activesync, I just learned that Activesync is installable only on XP, not Vista. I have been struggling with these issues since today morning. This shouldn't be this difficult, after all.
I will try connecting my Nokia 6620 to my system and try to export the contacts to csv format. When I opened Nokia PC Suite without connecting my Nokia phone, the contacts list showed empty on the Suite, maybe because it doesn't store them on the system, and pulls them out only from the phone? I will find that out too.
If someone can, please let me know how to unistall WMDC properly and reinstall it so that it functions the way it did the first time. Are there any other free software to accomplish this? All the help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Connect Fuze to WMDC
Start - Settings - Connections - USB to PC
If the "Enable adv..." is checked, uncheck or vice versa
tyguy said:
Start - Settings - Connections - USB to PC
If the "Enable adv..." is checked, uncheck or vice versa
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Thanks, that somehow helped, I am not sure how, but it did. When I cheched that option off, it again recognized my Fuze as a new device and installed the driver and WMDC, which works fine now, but still doesn't allow me to select contacts, calendar items, etc.
I followed a method here: http://manish.wordpress.com/2008/11/14/importing-contacts-to-windows-mobile-without-ms-outlook/
That method imported all data, with all contacts named "Unknown" and missing the details (phone numbers, address, etc.) of most of the contacts. So, I installed Outlook 2007 and tried to import the csv file in Outlook, but it gave me an error saying its translator was not able to read the csv file (the clipping of the error is attached). I have the following questions now:
1. How do I overcome the importing error
2. How do I sync contacts from Nokia phone directly into Outlook instead of Windows Mail, so that I can have the contacts in Outlook and then, I can just sync Outlook and Fuze.
3. Or, is there a way to have the contacts synced between Windows Mail and Outlook?
Again, thanks for all the help.
@incisivekeith
Haven't had a Nokia for some time but AFAIK the latest PhoneSuite allows you a full sync with outlook.
CSV can be tricky because it may fail at custom fields. Check the CSV file using Excel if you have all headers.
Worst case - take a deep breath and read what google has to say ...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...k&btnG=Google+Search&aq=1&oq=import+csv+file+
OP, do you have OL installed? Otherwise, get OL and setup your Nokia PC Suite to sync with OL, then you can bring your contact & calendar from the Nokia into OL, then sync to your WM device thereafter. If you are not going to have OL soon, then dump your Nokia contacts onto the SIM and drop the SIM into the WM, but you still need to find a way to "scrub" the data.
Almost the same reply but putting the contacts on the SIM usually truncates add info like long names and multi phone entries. Through outlook would be the best and easiest way IMO.
tyguy said:
Almost the same reply but putting the contacts on the SIM usually truncates add info like long names and multi phone entries. Through outlook would be the best and easiest way IMO.
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Agreed, hence the "scrub" I threw that in b/c it appears the OP doesn't have OL readily available.
PHEW , finally!! It took me the whole day to just figure this out, and now I am thinking why I didn't think about this earlier. But I know why, probably because I didn't want to install Outlook just for the purpose of syncing. Anyway, tyguy, you were right that there should be/was a provision in Nokia PC Suite to sync that contacts with Outlook. I had checked all the settings, but I was checking the settings with Windows Mail chosen, I could find that I could choose Outlook only when I decided to create new settings. I synced Nokia phone to Outlook and then Outlook to my Fuze. Almost all the contacts and calendar items are as they are on my Nokia phone, so I am extremely happy. Some of the contacts, very few, are missing the phone numbers, but I can do that manually for that less a number of contacts. Thank you everyone for helping me out. I really appreciate it.
I remember I had to do a lot of work to solve this, and now I want my E90 back, cause all issues of this bad phone. It is not "safe": does not always ring the alarm, appointments gestion is very very bad, contacts sucks.
I have now the trial version of outlook, now it is over on 31/01 and I have no idea hot to do. I can' t syncronize anymore cause I will not pay for Outlook.
The reality is: wm sucks, i' m waiting for android.
PS: I saved contacts then copied one by one in outlook.
(forgive my english)
alessio
incisivekeith said:
PHEW , finally!! It took me whole day to just figure this out, and now I am thinking why I didn't think about this earlier. But I know why, probably because I didn't want to install Outlook just for the purpose of syncing. Anyway, tyguy, you were right that there should be/was a provision in Nokia PC Suite to sync that contacts with Outlook. I had checked all the settings, but I was checking the settings with Windows Mail chosen, I could find that I could choose Outlook only when I decided to create new settings. I synced Nokia phone to Outlook and then Outlook to my Fuze. Almost all the contacts and calendar items are as they are on my Nokia phone, so I am extremely happy. Some of the contacts, very few, are missing the phone numbers, but I can do that manually for that less a number of contacts. Thank you everyone for helping me out. I really appreciate it.
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And well, WM contacts only support 1 mobile number. Lots of contacts i have to register twice! It sucks!

Microsoft Skybox website now up(-ish)

This is the OTA sync solution (files, calendar, contacts) Microsoft has developed for WinMo6 phones. The website is here:
https://www.getskybox.com
It does not replace Windows Live, but acts as a supplement to it.
For some reason the certificate is invalid accoridng to Firefox, so I did a screencapture of the information page here:
Edit: Sod it, here is the text off the website.
More information about Microsoft® My Phone
* Back up phone information to a password-protected web site Microsoft My Phone syncs information on your mobile phone to a storage space on a web site hosted by Microsoft. If your phone is lost or stolen, or if you upgrade to a new phone, you can easily restore the contacts, calendar appointments, photos, and other information that you stored on My Phone to a compatible new or replacement phone. Most phones that run the Windows Mobile 6 operating system are compatible with My Phone service.
* Access and update your contacts and appointments on the web Microsoft My Phone enables you to view and manage phone information by using a web browser. In your web account, you can add, edit, and delete contacts and calendar appointments, and the changes will appear on your phone the next time that you sync.
* Share photos with friends and family Microsoft My Phone makes it easy to view photos on your computer that were taken with your camera phone. From your web account, you can save photos to your computer or can e-mail them to family and friends.
* How much does the Microsoft My Phone service cost? Microsoft does not charge a fee for the My Phone service at this time. But the data plan you have with your mobile operator may require you to pay data-transfer charges when you use the service. If you are unsure of your plan coverage, please contact your mobile operator.
* How do I create a Microsoft My Phone account? You can download the Microsoft My Phone application by browsing to http://www.getskybox.com/install on your mobile phone. When you browse to this site from select countries, you will be asked for your phone number to receive a text message which will contain the link for downloading the application. The first time that you run the Microsoft My Phone application on your phone after downloading it, you will be asked to sign in using your Windows Live™ ID (or sign up for a Windows Live ID if you do not already have one).
* What information can I back up on Microsoft My Phone? The first time that you run the My Phone application on your mobile phone, you will be asked to accept or change the recommended settings. Recommended settings will synchronize contacts, calendar appointments, tasks, photos, videos, text messages, music, and documents between your phone and your My Phone web account. However:
o If you have an active connection with Microsoft Exchange server (which is frequently used for corporate e-mail), My Phone will not synchronize your contacts, calendar appointments, or tasks.
o If you have Windows Live installed on your phone, it will synchronize your Windows Live contacts with the Windows Live web site, and My Phone will synchronize your other contacts to your account on the My Phone web site.
o If you have an external memory card and selected My Phone's recommended settings, information on the external memory card will not be synchronized.
o If you store contacts on the SIM card provided by your mobile operator, My Phone will not synchronize these contacts.
o If you have any documents stored outside the My Documents folder on your phone, My Phone will not synchronize these documents.
* How much data can I back up? Your Microsoft My Phone account gives you 200 MB of free storage on the Microsoft My Phone web site. If a synchronization would result in exceeding this limit, you will receive an error message on your phone and your account on the My Phone web site will only include information received prior to reaching this limit. Any files in excess of this limit will not be saved.
* Does Microsoft My Phone back up my phone information automatically? If you accept the recommended settings, Microsoft My Phone will automatically synchronize information between your mobile phone and your Microsoft My Phone web account once per day between 11:00 P.M. and 5:00 A.M., except when your phone cannot connect to your default data network - for example, when your phone is turned off, out of range, or roaming. You can also back up your data manually at any time by selecting Sync in the Microsoft My Phone application on your phone.
* Will Microsoft My Phone work on my mobile phone? Currently, Microsoft My Phone works only on phones that run the Windows Mobile 6+ operating system. This includes phones from many different manufacturers and mobile operators. To check which version of Windows Mobile your phone is using, click Start > Settings > About on your phone.
* What if I've already lost my mobile phone? If you lost your mobile phone before you began using the Microsoft My Phone service (for instance, if you installed the software but did not perform a sync operation), you cannot use Microsoft My Phone to restore the information that you lost. But if you used My Phone on your old mobile phone, download and install Microsoft My Phone on your new mobile phone (as described in How do I create a Microsoft My Phone account?) and sign in to the Microsoft My Phone application on your phone using the same Windows Live ID that you previously used. Then, by synchronizing manually or waiting for the next automatic synchronization, all information that you backed up to your Microsoft My Phone web account will be restored to the new phone.
Disclaimer: Use of Microsoft My Phone is subject to the terms of use provided with the service, including limitations on liability and no guarantee of error free operation. Although this web page is intended to provide additional general information about the service, Microsoft expressly disclaims provision of any additional user right or Microsoft obligation. A copy of the Terms of Use can be found here.
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404 Error
Cert was invaild in PIE as well. clicking on the install link returns a 404 error
The cert is invalid period (for all browsers)
The security certificate doesn't match the domain.
Furthermore, the website seems to be experiencing technical difficulties.
I definetly want in on the beta.
I have no problems with this site
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/myphone/myphone.aspx
not working for me
here @ work
Silentd said:
I have no problems with this site
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/myphone/myphone.aspx
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and it turns out that you just give away your privacy once again .... and that of your contacts
Dirk
Soo...how is Skybox much different than Dashwire so far?
I was really hoping to see some true Live Calendar sync, but it looks like the WL suite is still separate.
http://www.dashwire.com/
whats wrong with just using an Exchange server?
Monty,
Not everyone has Exchange unfortunately....
Why? There are free servers available.
Because you can only have 1 activesync connection at the same time.
I already sync my mail & calendar with my work exchange server and would like to sync my contacts & calendar with myphone or another comparable service.
I prefer exchange activesync in combination with livemesh - the only thing I don't get back-ups of are my sms messages (shrug).
Livemesh is just so more useful to me.
i just want to grumble a little about Microsoft's rather piecemeal way of sorting out OTA sync data. I use Windows Live Mobile, but this does not allow calendar sync, so I am forced to use Google Sync and Google calendar. I use Live Mesh to sync all my other files. Now MyPhone comes along, and I am finding it very hard to imagine why I would ever want to use this program at all. The only thing it may be useful for is putting the cabs for WLM, Google Sync and Live Mesh on it so that new phones which come with MyPhone preinstalled will be able to download and run the programs.
Why can't Windows Live Mobile come preinstalled with all phones and be a more full-featured service?
Star-Lite said:
Because you can only have 1 activesync connection at the same time.
I already sync my mail & calendar with my work exchange server and would like to sync my contacts & calendar with myphone or another comparable service.
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I must correct myself here, myphone is useless if you already have an activesync connection in place.
If you do, myphone cannot sync your calendar, tasks and contacts (even if your not syncing them via activesync at all).
It is not really direct-push like sync as well. The smallest possible automatic sync interval is once per day.
I cannot really find any use to sync my phones images, music etc with myphone. It's waaay faster to just put them on the sd-card directly via a card reader...
ZSX said:
The only thing it may be useful for is putting the cabs for WLM, Google Sync and Live Mesh
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Yeah, but Live Mesh could do this anyway, as long as you install after a hard reset/new phone.
ZSX said:
Why can't Windows Live Mobile come preinstalled with all phones and be a more full-featured service?
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Here here, but I'm sure it's to do with the Anti-Trust lawsuit from a decade ago. If only they could have a default link to it within WinMob.
ZSX said:
i just want to grumble a little about Microsoft's rather piecemeal way of sorting out OTA sync data. I use Windows Live Mobile, but this does not allow calendar sync, so I am forced to use Google Sync and Google calendar. I use Live Mesh to sync all my other files. Now MyPhone comes along, and I am finding it very hard to imagine why I would ever want to use this program at all. The only thing it may be useful for is putting the cabs for WLM, Google Sync and Live Mesh on it so that new phones which come with MyPhone preinstalled will be able to download and run the programs.
Why can't Windows Live Mobile come preinstalled with all phones and be a more full-featured service?
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Indeed, moreover, you can select individual folders with live mesh to sync, mymobile only allows to select the the whole storage card! which puts you straight over the 200mb limit.
Microsoft needs to get a grip, there is a whole range of products that overlap in functionality but don't work together....
Skybox - My Phone - Windows Live
Well, with all our grumbling, it looks like Microsoft is listening and is hoping to more tightly integrate My Phone with Windows Live. I just wonder how long it will take and whether it will be ready by the time 7 rolls round.
Tighter integration with Windows Live services: Window Live suite of services provides a fantastic user experience around Contacts, Calendar, Photos and other user needs. We too are big fans and ardent users of these services and it is natural for you all to ask for tighter integration so that all of your personal data is consolidated in one single view. The initial goal for My Phone service was to test the concept and validate that we are solving a real problem for the users. Now that we have a resounding vote of confidence for the service our future plans are moving in this direction.
Support synchronizing additional data: Your phone is a very personal device for lot of us. For some of us it is akin to having all of life in your hands and it is not fun thinking about losing all of this information. We have tried to support syncing the most frequently used data types keeping in mind the current and future trends but at the same time we have room for growth in this area for syncing additional information. There has also been active discussion around providing flexibility to select folders and files from the phone for syncing it with the service and also providing the option to sync Contacts, Calendar and Tasks even though they are managed by Exchange/ActiveSync.
Suggestions on improving the experience on the My Phone Web Site: There have also been number of suggestions on further improving the overall usability of the web site along with the phone application. These are being evaluated on case by case basis and we will be taking those into account for future updates.
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More here:
http://myphoneteam.spaces.live.com/Blog/cns!500D40C76E07BE24!184.entry

[Q] Using Android phone with desktop Microsoft Outlook

This question has been raised many times, but I couldn't find a single definite answer. To sync with Outlook there is software like Touchdown (albeit only for MS Exchange) and cloud services like Soocial and Funambol. Now, how do you sync ALL fields in Contacts, for example, if they are not 100% identical with Google? The later lets you name your phone numbers, for example which is impossible in Outlook. I am using Outlook both for business and personal, and it would be very difficult to move away from it, especially as my company uses it for business. However, I find WM 6.5, or Windows Phone 7, or Blackberry not particularly suited for my personal needs. So I bought Optimus 2X, but I have not started using it, because I don't know how to painlessly migrate to it from HTC Touch Diamond 2 with WM 6.5, which is seamlessly integrated with Outlook. I have about 1600 well-organized contacts, many tasks, recurring calendar items, almost all of them with applied custom-made Outlook categories. Filtering and sorting by categories really simplifies things. I am daunted by the task of re-categorizing all of my outlook items by hand. But I need to start using Android somehow AND desktop and laptop versions of MS Outlook with the categories I have set up. What is the least painful way to do it? I can't believe there's only me faced with this problem. Thanks for your help!
I set up my wife's droid with CompanionLink / Google. Don't know about categories or syncing with exchange, as she only uses local outlook. Checkout CompanionLink if you haven't already.

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