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AT&T Replace my Fuze because...

I was using my Fuze the other day, and was scrolling down a website with the stylus, when all of a sudden the god damn stylus scratched my screen. As you can imagine i was mortified and shocked. A big gash only a week into owning my beautiful new fuze. So i take it in and tell them what happened and they gladly replaced the phone. Nice people! Guess the 30 day period does cover scratches, if by stylus!

thats odd, glad they swapped it for you. was your stylus's point sharper then usual?

So....
It's a good thing to treat your new styli to a bit of emery cloth before you start playing.

Erm... The first thing I did when I got my fuze was throw on that screen protector. Would be foolish if ya didn't do that the second go round.

supapimp2k3 said:
Erm... The first thing I did when I got my fuze was throw on that screen protector. Would be foolish if ya didn't do that the second go round.
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When you say "that" screen protector. Are you saying they provided one with the FUZE in the box? Or did you buy one separately?

Yes one does come inside the box.

I was applying my invisible shield today and a little bit of the solution got into the earpiece duct, about 10 minutes later my touch screen was no longer functional. I've already returned my phone and getting a new one Saturday. Be careful with your phones guys, a little liquid and its all over.

I love the included screen protector. I've used alot of protectors over the past decade and the stock one holds up better than most (especially for free). I still don't have so much as a blemish on it even with alot of active use and it traveling in my pocket (but no keys). And it's such a good fit that when people check out my phone they tell me that, "You really should get a screen protector before you get any scratches on the glass."
Joke's on them.

I never even looked in the bag with the quick start guide, sure enough a screen protector and another screen protector that comes on the phone with all the warnings on it.

Included protector
Does anyone know the manufacturer of the included protector?
I didn't get mine aligned properly, some dust started peeling it from the corner so I had to ditch it and got an invisible shield, but I liked the included one because until you get use to it, the invible shield takes some getting use to.

Just peel your included screen protector off, wash it with some soapy water, and reapply it to your screen again (while still damp, but not drippy wet). Smooth it out and gently move all the bubbles of water out to the edges of the screen, and voila.
It doesn't specifically use a tacky glue so you can reapply it again and again. I do the same trick on my DS for perfectly clear and aligned protection.
Same trick people that tinted my car windows used for getting the plastic onto glass.

killer2001 said:
I was applying my invisible shield today and a little bit of the solution got into the earpiece duct, about 10 minutes later my touch screen was no longer functional. I've already returned my phone and getting a new one Saturday. Be careful with your phones guys, a little liquid and its all over.
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Did you wait 12-24hr before putting the battery back in and powering it up after installing the invisibleshield? Because you are supposed to, to prevent exactly what happened.

Dang It, I need to double check my trash. I had no idea they provided a screen protector. It was in a bag with the quick start guide?

TriAxisFL said:
Dang It, I need to double check my trash. I had no idea they provided a screen protector. It was in a bag with the quick start guide?
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Yep
[filler goes here]

Dust under glass? anyone else have this problem?

picked up 2 Nexus S on release day, went home happy. Preoccupied with work, so I only powered them up last night.
To my Surprise, both phones have dust under the glass! WTF Samsung? Removed the plastic sheet on the front to make sure, and yes, it's under the glass.
on one phone the dust was smack in the middle, while on the other phone it was a little left of the middle.
Can't be seen on a dark screen, but once you switch to a white background like the web or texting you can see it.
I know I am probably being OCD and anal about this, but heck I paid over $1k for both phones out of contract.
Went back to BestBuy and returned them promply, of course now they are sold out, and I have to wait for the next shipment.
Just wondering if others have similar experiences? BTW, I also had a Galaxy Tab and before returned it, it also had some dust specs under the glass...
I also own an HD2 and G2, seems HTC is better at QC.
Shame, really want this phone but WTF samsung?

Nope you sure its under the glass?
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No dust under the screen here.
It seems that this first batch of phones is a rather mixed bag; some have defects and others are fine. It was a good idea to return them, hopefully your replacements will be free of issues.

My first S had a little speck of something. I initially thought it was a dead pixel, but I could see it when the screen was off also so I assumed it was dust. I returned it and checked the next one out before I left the store and it seems to be good.

slowz3r said:
Nope you sure its under the glass?
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100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.

jdm_cars said:
100% sure, remove the screen protectors on both of them and rubbed the area where it was, thought it was a dead pixel too, but no it was fine on a dark background, but on a white background could see it easily.
sold out at my local bb, but still available online might go that route.
just wanted to see other people's experiences or maybe they didnt notice yet, lol.
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this happen when you have 2 layers for the screen. the internal part and the upper part where you touch.
there is an advantage for this. if god forbid you dropped and broke the screen, only the upper part gets replaced. and wouldnt cost you much to do so " and you wont get another screen with dead pixel and being OCD whatever the new screen is good or not. because the actuall inner screen isnt touched.
the bad thing about is what you said. dust can enter in the middle between both layers of the screen.
even if you get a new nexus S without dust under the screen, if you leave it in the open area with sun and wind always hitting it, you will get a dust somehow inside as well. so make sure your phone is in a pocket most of the time.
the only phone i remember right now that had both layers of the screens touched as 1 part is the iphone 2G and the iphone 4 " i am sure there are others but i dont know "
this result to no dust under the screen no matter what " unless the dust came from factory while they were attaching both screens on top of each other and glue them "
but if you break your screen in the iphone 4.... god help you.

Yeah, after about a week and couple of days of usage, I've got my first spec of dust in the top left area of the screen. Really, it's nothing noticeable but I do have some sort of OCD with my phone (god help me if I get a visible scratch on the screen).
I don't think it's really worth taking it back to get it changed as this Nexus S I have currently has no problems whatsoever, I don't even have the pink or yellow screen issue with this one. I think I'm just gonna have to live with that one spec of dust for now...

I think this may be just bad QC. I looked at ifixit taking apart the NS. Basically they said the trickiest part to the disassembly was the screen, and they had to use a heat gun to soften the glue just to separate the 2 screens. So dust entering between those 2 screens would be pretty difficult unless the glue wasn't properly applied from the assembly line.
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I don't have dust under my Nexus S screen... but I do have dust under my front facing camera! And its only recently just got there - I remember playing around with it extensively when I first got it 6 months ago and the camera was really clear and sharp.
Now it is all fuzzy and white haze. And I can see all the dust particles on the underside of the glass. Annoying!
Anyone know if there's an easy way to clean it? Or is it a case of back to Samsung?

Screen coating is coming off?

Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal user and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?

ksuuk said:
Noticed that from the place where my thumb usually makes up/down scroll is strange area, and even I clean the screen, this area is still there. See Yourself - I made a picture, clean screen, water steam (breath), and this middle area is the problem. My thumb is normal, I'm a normal usre and I had newer such problem with any phone.
Is the Gorilla Glass really so bad or is it coated with some stuff which is just coming off?
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woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?

abhirulz94 said:
woow thats something new..and AFAIK gorilla glass has no coating. what so ever
Do you have some kind scree guard or something?
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No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.

ksuuk said:
No, I have not used any kind of screen cover, but seems that Moto G screen is covered with the the water-resistance coating and this is failing off - it's clearly visible when cleaning the screen with some liquid, only this area stays wet.
But I don't think this is normal behavior. I can't imagine what the power users screen is now or will be later. I contacted with the Amazon ( I have one dead pixel too), let's see what they say.
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If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.

abhirulz94 said:
If it contains a dead pixel better get a replacement, all the best for that.
BTW water repellent coating is done on the internals of the device.
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I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?

ksuuk said:
I know about internal coating. But as You see, the screen is also coated. I have the proof.
I made a test, sprayed water to the screen, and as You see, the damaged area stays wet, while the rest rejects it.
The question is - do I have faulty screen or this will happen to everyone sooner or later?
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well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.

abhirulz94 said:
well you are the first one to report something like this and i agree with you because this might happen with others also sooner or later. Its very much possible that your screen is faulty since you mentioned its new (maybe the screen had tiny dust particle before the coating took place) many members are using the phone without any screen-guard but none have mentioned anything like this..A lot of member have got dead pixels on their screens and got them replaced.
I'm using a screen guard since the screen will get scratched over the time.
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Well, Amazon just replied and they will replace it with the new one, so I have to wait for the new one and later send the old one back. Let's hope that this one's screen ( I still don't like to add the screen protector, as it's kind of ugly) will last longer.

If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector

mr_nooby said:
If you apply the screen protector carefully, you won't even know it's on! It's your choice tough but what you reported is pretty worrying. That area of the screen seems too big tough for it to be a thumb, (you touch with just the tip of the thumb) do it was probably already a little damaged when you got it and with the time it got bigger and bigger. Or maybe you scratched your screen somehow?
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I'm 100% sure that I haven't scratched the screen purposely, juts normal, id even say careful using. And if I clean the screen, it's bright and like a new, impossible to detect any damages, also this problematic area is clean and shiny. But when I touch it or spray water etc, it's clearly visible. So choices are:
1) Add screen protector (let someone do it, once I added it to iPhone and the result was terrible).
2) Polish the whole screen, so that this coating is removed.
3) Replace.
4) Ignore.

blockbusta said:
the is an oliophobic coating on the screen of the moto g (part of the gorilla glas). this is also the reason why you generally get less fingerprints on the display than on a screen protector and why it's much easier to clean the display than the scren protector
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Yes, You are right, it's anti-fingerprint oleophobic coating and be warned, seems it's just won't last.

Warning: Skinomi water damage easily

Maybe Im just a damn idiot, as I am not used to wet application screen protectors, but after installing skinomi, my phone is stuck on safe mode and touchscreen no longer works. I kinda wish I never bought it, I feel sad, mad, and ready to cry. I had my phone a whole 4 days... Im posting this as a warning, Not sure what I did wrong, but I will NEVER use wet application screen protectors again.

Sorry to hear. I wonder why people use screen protectors in the first place. Why? I've owned more phones than I could even begin to count, never used a screen protector and have never scratched a single one of my phones' screens.

pieces of cake said:
Sorry to hear. I wonder why people use screen protectors in the first place. Why? I've owned more phones than I could even begin to count, never used a screen protector and have never scratched a single one of my phones' screens.
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+1 :-\

darkleafar said:
Maybe Im just a damn idiot, as I am not used to wet application screen protectors, but after installing skinomi, my phone is stuck on safe mode and touchscreen no longer works. I kinda wish I never bought it, I feel sad, mad, and ready to cry. I had my phone a whole 4 days... Im posting this as a warning, Not sure what I did wrong, but I will NEVER use wet application screen protectors again.
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Give it time to dry and there is a good chance that all will be well
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Probably why they say a thin layer, and to squeegee it away from any opening. I have a Skinomi shield on. Did you also let it sit for four hours before turning it on? Following the instructions is important. I hope you had insurance on it. It's such a great phone to lose because of a little water.
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pieces of cake said:
I've owned more phones than I could even begin to count, never used a screen protector and have never scratched a single one of my phones' screens.
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Well you are one of the lucky ones, i had a few phones in recent years that had gorilla glass...but still got little scratches on the screen that were super annoying. One from keys in pocket the other one fell of a table and knicked a pebble.
I will never go without one on my phone

I won't either, but rather have tempered glass. Maybe some day it will be out. I dropped my phone once with a tempered glass shield. The shield broke, but the screen was undamaged, and the seller sent me a new one free.
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darkleafar said:
Maybe Im just a damn idiot, as I am not used to wet application screen protectors, but after installing skinomi, my phone is stuck on safe mode and touchscreen no longer works. I kinda wish I never bought it, I feel sad, mad, and ready to cry. I had my phone a whole 4 days... Im posting this as a warning, Not sure what I did wrong, but I will NEVER use wet application screen protectors again.
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I feel for you. I was almost in that boat.
The edge part of the note is where all the water goes. It gets in by the spen and hits the main board.
I let mines dry for a little bit then turn it on and the screen was fine (minus the dots or lint) but then when it boot the screen went brown and crap. I pulled the battery and took the phone apart and blow dry it for 30mins. Put it back together and my heart attack stop.
Lol
But yes be very careful with the phone and water. I recommend removing the s pen and wraping a towel around the phone once done. Let dry for a hr then blow dry it for 20mins.
I never done a wet protector either but I think I got it now. Isthe inky problem is they seem to get more lint from the mist of the spray. But also I'm not in a dang white clean room.
Lol...

Best place to put it on is in the bathroom after a shower. It becomes the most lint free room in the house. [emoji6]
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Oditius said:
Best place to put it on is in the bathroom after a shower. It becomes the most lint free room in the house. [emoji6]
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Great tip I'll try that.
And here the board. This phone is easy to take apart.
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I've had it inside a bag of rice since yesterday night. When I get home I will try reboot again.

darkleafar said:
I've had it inside a bag of rice since yesterday night. When I get home I will try reboot again.
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Just take it apart.
I posted a pic. Just unscrew the bolts and slowly lift up the board. And blow dry it on low.
There are push connectors for the power button so it's possible that has started to short out.
I wish you the best with recovering your phone.
I wash my protector off and put it back on. So all is good for me now.
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pieces of cake said:
Sorry to hear. I wonder why people use screen protectors in the first place. Why? I've owned more phones than I could even begin to count, never used a screen protector and have never scratched a single one of my phones' screens.
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Well, it really depends. All my phones so far since gorilla glass was invented were without screen protectors and I've not had a single scratch. I realised that was also partly because I've always kept my phone inside my pocket alone, with nothing else inside together with the phone. My wife chucks her phone into her bag together with everything else, wallet (with metallic zippers), coins, keys etc, and she got a deep scratch within days. So if you are those who chucks your phone into your bag, it's still safer to get a screen protector.

Seifer1975 said:
Well, it really depends. All my phones so far since gorilla glass was invented were without screen protectors and I've not had a single scratch. I realised that was also partly because I've always kept my phone inside my pocket alone, with nothing else inside together with the phone. My wife chucks her phone into her bag together with everything else, wallet (with metallic zippers), coins, keys etc, and she got a deep scratch within days. So if you are those who chucks your phone into your bag, it's still safer to get a screen protector.
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I always keep up with my phones, in a pocket along, take good care of them, but to me it's the case of what if.
If the seen gets scratch that's it. If a protector gets scratch I can change it and not live with a messed up screen.

BAD NEWS:
so the phone came on again, for about an hour and everything was working perfectly. I thought i was good, so I charged the phone. After I did that, vertical green lines appeared through the screen, and eventualy, the phone randomly went into bootloop. It got so bad I was not even able to reset the thing to factory settings.
GOOD NEWS:
For some reason, the water damage indicators did not activate so I was able to exchange my phone at AT&T as I was still within 14 day return period. I explained to the manager what happened and he said it was fine. Just finished setting up my new phone and bought a ZAGG invisible shield DRY from AT&T. It is super hard to install, and I got it in there with much mediocrity. Im going to wait for something better to come out, as I am now traumatized and will not even take my phone into the restroom because now I feel a tiny little splash of water will make the phone explode.

That it's good news indeed, glad it worked out for you.
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I have been using wet application screen protector on my smart phones for the longest time. Brands from skinomi and bodyguardz. I have use this type (wet application ) of screen protector for so long , that i believe i have mastered the art of installing it Lol. wet application screen protector is the way to go vs. Dry application.

510jungleboy said:
I have been using wet application screen protector on my smart phones for the longest time. Brands from skinomi and bodyguardz. I have use this type (wet application ) of screen protector for so long , that i believe i have mastered the art of installing it Lol. wet application screen protector is the way to go vs. Dry application.
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I can tell you that they feel much better.
This was my frist wet one. Had some problems at frist but in the end all was good.
I'm a pro at installing dry ones tho. But I may go with more wet ones in the future I'll see how this one holds up.

Been using Skinomi protectors on several devices without any ill effect. I love the feel and look of the protector!

I recently posted something in the Troubleshooting section about the scrolling edge panels (Yahoo Sports/Finance) acting up after the installation.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2960181
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Question Screen Protector

Can anyone recommend a third party screen protector that actually works ?

Samsung says you shouldn't remove the OEM screen protector... but is it okay to do so?

If you ask me... I would recommend not to remove the OEM screen protector at the same time don't use any 3rd party screen protector too...

Clusco said:
If you ask me... I would recommend not to remove the OEM screen protector at the same time don't use any 3rd party screen protector too...
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Why? Have you removed it? Any experience with other screen protectors?

I use the Skinomi screen protector on mine, been using them since my Pixel 2 XL. The Samsung one is a flimsy piece of hard plastic that loves finger prints. So glad I took the "risk"
You can find a number of videos where people apply their own. Definitely recommend, but it is scary while you're doing it
My tip after applying it: Keep the phone unfolded overnight!

buru898 said:
I use the Skinomi screen protector on mine, been using them since my Pixel 2 XL. The Samsung one is a flimsy piece of hard plastic that loves finger prints. So glad I took the "risk"
You can find a number of videos where people apply their own. Definitely recommend, but it is scary while you're doing it
My tip after applying it: Keep the phone unfolded overnight!
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Hi!
How long have you had the Skinomi protector on? Any problems? Does it feel as smooth as the stock protector? Does it cover the whole screen? Stock protector has small gaps all around the screen.
Some questions...

BWA80 said:
Hi!
How long have you had the Skinomi protector on? Any problems? Does it feel as smooth as the stock protector? Does it cover the whole screen? Stock protector has small gaps all around the screen.
Some questions...
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It feels so much better. I've had it on for about 3 months now. Keep in mind I never liked glass screen protectors. The 'rubbery' ones that require water feels better, and makes sense for a phone where you're not likely to drop it on the screen
No problems, just remember not to fold the phone for at least the day afterwards (I have a very small bubble there due to my impatience). Plus, the rubbery ones self heal so it always looks great. The fact that it never shows fingerprints too. No more constantly wiping the phone after every use
Yes I know exactly the issue with crap getting along the sides. So infuriating, but this one reaches the corners well. I also put the protector touching the very top of the phone as well to eliminate the top gaps so the only real gap is the very bottom, and that isn't touched as often as every other part of the phone. I also don't remember the last time I needed to clean it
In the picture, ignore the bottom gap gunk. It looks way worse on camera for some reason
Let me know if you want any more pictures/angles

buru898 said:
It feels so much better. I've had it on for about 3 months now. Keep in mind I never liked glass screen protectors. The 'rubbery' ones that require water feels better, and makes sense for a phone where you're not likely to drop it on the screen
No problems, just remember not to fold the phone for at least the day afterwards (I have a very small bubble there due to my impatience). Plus, the rubbery ones self heal so it always looks great. The fact that it never shows fingerprints too. No more constantly wiping the phone after every use
Yes I know exactly the issue with crap getting along the sides. So infuriating, but this one reaches the corners well. I also put the protector touching the very top of the phone as well to eliminate the top gaps so the only real gap is the very bottom, and that isn't touched as often as every other part of the phone. I also don't remember the last time I needed to clean it
In the picture, ignore the bottom gap gunk. It looks way worse on camera for some reason
Let me know if you want any more pictures/angles
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When installing the Skinomi, what's the best way to deal with the hinge dip when "squeegeeing" the protector to the screen?
Just ordered the Skinomi.
I almost got T-Mobile to exchange the whole phone. They finally asked me when I bought it and determined it was still under Samsung warranty and directed me to Samsung.
Once again, Samsung sent me on a wild goose chase to Best Buy and the Samsung Experience section which, no longer exists at the 2 Best Buy's I tried.
Dismal support from Samsung!

mmeyer4663 said:
When installing the Skinomi, what's the best way to deal with the hinge dip when "squeegeeing" the protector to the screen?
Just ordered the Skinomi.
I almost got T-Mobile to exchange the whole phone. They finally asked me when I bought it and determined it was still under Samsung warranty and directed me to Samsung.
Once again, Samsung sent me on a wild goose chase to Best Buy and the Samsung Experience section which, no longer exists at the 2 Best Buy's I tried.
Dismal support from Samsung!
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Nice, that's the one I'm using
I think I first tried squeezing from middle outwards, but the phone did fine doing it normally (from top to bottom or vice versa). I was only worried about water getting into the hinges, but apparently these phones do well with water according to YouTube durability tests
I hear a lot of people with the same experience for the lack of Samsung support. It's a shame

Have you all read this yet:
Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3 durability tested — read this before you buy
The Galaxy Z Flip 3 is more durable, but the foldable display itself is still fragile
www.tomsguide.com
After reading that and watching the YouTube to replace the screen protector, seems pretty scary to replace the screen protector.

The best screen protector secured at last!
After many months of scouring the internet and more money spent than I'd like to admit, I have finally found what I would consider a better screen protector than even the OEM installed one from Samsung. I have tried close to 10 different...
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I just made a thread about this and I'm absolutely positive I found the best screen protector by a longshot. It's also a very straightforward install, I got a perfect install my first try.