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hey there, hoping for a quick answer.. basically I read in a review that I won't be able to use an external SD card to store media.. like music on and use it, what I read was this:
'the microSD slot works out of the box. It supports up to 32GB and shows up as a notification giving you two-press access to it. This is both good and bad. The way Asus implemented microSD support is to label it as removable storage. Android will ignore it and consider the internal memory the SD card. This is not too much of a problem. However, if you think you are going to run your music off of a microSD, you are mistaken. The Transformer will not look to the microSD for media files. Some apps will let you add folders from the microSD card into their libraries. Yet many will not.'
could anyone who has one confirm if this is true or not please?, as I plan on buying one soon as but if this is the case I won't be buying one . thank you for any answers
Craig
Maybe see this thread.
The stock music player by Asus (already installed on the transformer) see the contents of the microSD just like if it was on the internal..you have only a little notification in the bar..
For the SD in the dock I don't know..maybe someone else has tried..
If you want to use only a microSD go and buy the transformer !
EDIT: maybe not all the music player will see files on external SD but for me the stock player is good enough..
thanks for the replies guys , I also heard 3.2 supports media from external sd cards natively so maybe this addresses that issue
ordering it this evening
Anyone have issues with the pre-installed "Music" app failing to recognize files on the external SD card? (in the Dock)
I have an SDXC 64g card in the dock, and I can navigate files within it fine, using the file explorer.
But the built-in music app only shows the sample tracks, never any on the SD card.
Restarted several times. Unmount-remounted the SD card within android too (several times).
Several other posts suggested "rescan for music" but I cannot locate such a thing in any of the music player's built-in menus.
I've also tried several 3rd party music players, such as WinAmp, Powerplayer, etc (in fact, I've tried all the ones with good ratings from the market) but these apparently are just layered over the built-in player's information.
I can play one song at a time, by using the file explorer, so it's not an access issue or formatting issue-- and while playing, the tags appear fine.
It appears to be a problem with the music database? I have no idea where that may be found.
Stock TF101, not rooted, 16gb, with keyboard dock.
Try Meridian Media player,
working for me
I have found a couple that permitted folder-browsing, and awkward playing via folders.
What I would prefer is fixing the basic issue: the built-in media library does not scan either external card for music content.
If there is a hidden way to refresh this engine, I'd love to learn about it.
In question to your answer...nope mine sees the micro sd card music files just fine in the stock Music app,haven't tried using the card reader slot for storing or reading music files.
I have the same problem with pictures. I did a little research into it.
Android has a concept called the MediaStore. On boot-up or insertion the OS scans all the memory (cards) and puts media (MP3, Images, Video) records into the MediaStore. Honeycomb didn't support SD card pre-3.2, so Asus had added this into their kernel.
Enter honeycomb 3.2: There must have been a conflict so either Asus intentionally or unintentionally disabled everything, so now only apps that don't use the MediaStore work.
In short, apps are only going to half work until Asus can fix their kernel.
dburckh said:
I have the same problem with pictures. I did a little research into it.
Android has a concept called the MediaStore. On boot-up or insertion the OS scans all the memory (cards) and puts media (MP3, Images, Video) records into the MediaStore. Honeycomb didn't support SD card pre-3.2, so Asus had added this into their kernel.
Enter honeycomb 3.2: There must have been a conflict so either Asus intentionally or unintentionally disabled everything, so now only apps that don't use the MediaStore work.
In short, apps are only going to half work until Asus can fix their kernel.
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Thanks for clearing it up-- I will now take it up with Asus, by entering a trouble-ticket.
At the very least, if enough people complain, maybe they will fix their kludge (to the Android OS).
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In question to your answer...nope mine sees the micro sd card music files just fine in the stock Music app,haven't tried using the card reader slot for storing or reading music files.
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I have not tried the microSD, just the SD card.
I have only 32gig on my micro-- not enough room.
My SD card is a 64gig one (SDXC), and has all of my music files on it.
I verified I can access the card and it's content via File Explorer, and I can play songs on the SD one at a time that way...
I haven't tried to play any mp3s via the dock but i use playerpro and there is a folder play option where you can just navigate to folders. I'm not sure if it can go high enough to hit /removable/ for you to get to the SD slot but i'm gonna guess if you can get to microsd you can get to sd.
I don't know what the deal is. Connected with the stock cord as an MTP device. I keep getting an error that windows explorer has stopped working whenever I try to put a movie on the micro sd card or the internal storage.
Files transfers are painfully slow and I really don't want to have to eject the sd card every time. And then put it back in and transfer from sd card to internal storage.
Am I missing something here? I have the drivers installed and I can see the tf300 in "my computer". And can access it, its just when I go to transfer something.
Can you push it through adb?
prototype7 said:
Can you push it through adb?
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I'm a complete noob when it comes to ADB.
I have always avoided it. Right now I am using the SD card swap around method. I assume it should work under MTP with windows explorer right?
you can transfer thru wifi but of course it's slower.
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you can transfer thru wifi but of course it's slower.
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Yah with multiple gigs I think its faster to use the sd card.
I've had the same problem when transferring large files over 1gb. I think this problem is due to the very low write and read speed in the tablet.
I was encountering problems when copying directly from a network share to my tablet/SD card, but when I copied the files to my PC first, and then to my tablet it worked fine.
Citruspers said:
I was encountering problems when copying directly from a network share to my tablet/SD card, but when I copied the files to my PC first, and then to my tablet it worked fine.
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Thanks I think I also only tried from a network share. I'll have to transfer it to my pc first and try that.
Are you ripping dvds and putting them on the tablet? If so, I am struggling with getting a playable file. I have been using Handbrake and tried every setting. There are many posts of people doing it and even when I follow their settings the file comes out scrambled. Anyone have a tried and true app or method?
TIA
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Did transferring to the computer then the SD card work ok? Right now I have a 16 gig SD card and Im trying to transfer a 4.5 gig .m2ts video file from a portable hard drive and I get the message that the SD card is too small even though theres 10 gigs left.
I think the network share thing was the issue. I just plugged in and transferred some files that were local and it went fine.
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Did transferring to the computer then the SD card work ok? Right now I have a 16 gig SD card and Im trying to transfer a 4.5 gig .m2ts video file from a portable hard drive and I get the message that the SD card is too small even though theres 10 gigs left.
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The sdcard is probably formatted in fat32. Which has a max file limit size of 4gb's. Last night I had to trim the credits off of a movie to get it to just fit under the limit.
looks like you guys have a lot of big files,
i honestly rarely have a file bigger than 2GB, except for some installer-files (like microsoft windows, adobe creative suite)
for movies my files are usually under 1GB
Looks like I spoke too soon. Some PDF files worked through explorer. But even from a local drive I tried one 2.5gb MKV and I got the same error. Kind of annoying but oh well I can deal with it.
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Looks like I spoke too soon. Some PDF files worked through explorer. But even from a local drive I tried one 2.5gb MKV and I got the same error. Kind of annoying but oh well I can deal with it.
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See thats the weird thing. I had some movies saved as .M4V which are a little over 4 gigs, they transferred over fine. But for some reason it doesnt like storing .m2ts files.
same issue as lightsout
I just noticed the same issue when trying to copy a movie file from my win7 pc to the internal storage over the usb cable. I don't have an SD card installed. I've just realized that it goes fine for avi's. I copied a 1.5GB avi over and it went fairly quickly, but if I try to copy mkv files - I get the Windows Explorer error. This frustrates me.:crying:
Any ideas?
No error here with USB stock v30 and rooted but most mkvs I send are just under or at 1gb which is what handbrake gives me when transcoding a DVD. I do get a warning each time that the video may not work but I just ignore it and the video plays fine once transferred. Using win7 at the other end.
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Well that's the difference, then? Maybe I need to root....??? The mkv files were under 1gb.
Certainly couldn't hurt anything but the last time I sent a video file I was not rooted. I have since put root on but have not had the need for video since then. Perhaps I should try to be sure it still works
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So you're saying that you were able to move mkv files without root?
Correct and other than a windows 7 warning that it might not play it transferred like any other file. Transfer time sucked on USB 2 connection but I'm hearing that is common on this tablet. I have not sent any video files since I rooted but I don't see why that would matter. Tablet was in media mode.
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NTFS-partitioning for the micro SDHC does not work:
1) If i try to copy directly through the tablet to an NTFS-partitioned card, the tablet freezes
2) Dice player won't open a 4GB+ anyways, the message is something like "The file is not supported"
3) Internal storage cannot be partitioned as NTFS
One current solution is splitting MKV files before conversion.
For SRT external subs, either integrate them using MKVmerge, and then split in MKVToolnix, or save as ANSI and split on the fly using splitMKV (included in multiAVCHD).
Is there a more efficient way?
For example, I converted a ~9GB 1080p movie using DVD Catalyst, keeping the full resolution, into an Android recommended video format (Full HD though) + 160 Kbit AAC stereo. It turned out 6GB+ still.
are you trying to put a 4gb file or larger on your microsd, or the tablet itself?
honestly, and i love dvdcatalyst, but for the transformer infinity, i find that its really not needed. I transferred a 9gb mkv blu ray of Hunger Games to my 64gb card (formatted at exfat) and the movie plays superb. Subtitles as well. I am using BS Player to watch my movies. Conversion is really not required for the infinity, when using this app.
exFAT? 10char
Thanks! Didn't think of exFAT, saw it was available when I was formatting the card.
Still doesn't solve the internal memory of the pad problem (won't accept 4GB+ files), but I'll try to re-format the card when I'm home.
The internal memory cant be formatted from your computer because its mounted through MTP instead of USB mass storage. I wasnt aware that the internal storage had a 4gb limit, but if it is indeed fat32 there's nothing that can be done about it (yet, and even then that'll require an unlocked bootloader).
The microSD card is your only option. I second trying exFat.
Caution, not all 64 GB Micro SDXC might work! I have tried two Sandisk 64 GB. Both work formatted as FAT32 in my Galaxy Note, but only one works with ExFAT in the Transformer TF700...
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The internal memory cant be formatted from your computer because its mounted through MTP instead of USB mass storage. I wasnt aware that the internal storage had a 4gb limit, but if it is indeed fat32 there's nothing that can be done about it (yet, and even then that'll require an unlocked bootloader).
The microSD card is your only option. I second trying exFat.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try.
Internal storage is ext4, which has a filesize limit of 16 TB. I believe it will be enough for all Infinity users The 4GB limit is under FAT16 and FAT32 only, which on your device you won't see anywhere besides the (micro)SD(HC) card!
If someone here really thinks your internal storage could be formatted FAT32, read about file permissions under Linux for the starters
And just to make sure, I've just copied a 5.46 GB file from full-size SDHC card in the dock to my internal storage (/sdcard/) with an average speed of 15 MB/s without experiencing any problems (within the tablet, so if you experience problems with USB transfers, consider it a problem with Windows handling MTP on your device or a similar issue).
This whole thread actually spreads disinformation. Better try to make sure, if you are unsure.
BTW, don't go with NTFS under Android in general and under .26 Infinity firmware in particular, it will give you trouble at some point on any device you connect to it. Just format your external cards to exFAT and don't even try to touch internal...
As to watching big .mkv files, try BSPlayer Free, it has played my 15 GB 1080p mkv files very smoothly. You can see more about apps for the Infinity in my apps (sticky) therad.
Thanks, everyone, exFAT seems to work perfectly fine for the micro SDHC card, I put a 10GB movie on it and it plays fine.
I installed BSPlayer Pro in addition to Dice Player as Dice wouldn't open it.
BSPlayer opens it perfectly, with subs, HW-accelerated and everything.
For the internal storage - great news about ext4, I am testing it again now, there may be a limitation of USB MTP protocol, as I remember it wouldn't copy a file over 4GB via the USB cable?
A 4.6GB file being copied, will post in a sec...
Um I don't know why I am such an idiot, it worked fine.
Thanks a lot again.
d14b0ll0s said:
Internal storage is ext4, which has a filesize limit of 16 TB. I believe it will be enough for all Infinity users The 4GB limit is under FAT16 and FAT32 only, which on your device you won't see anywhere besides the (micro)SD(HC) card!
If someone here really thinks your internal storage could be formatted FAT32, read about file permissions under Linux for the starters
And just to make sure, I've just copied a 5.46 GB file from full-size SDHC card in the dock to my internal storage (/sdcard/) with an average speed of 15 MB/s without experiencing any problems (within the tablet, so if you experience problems with USB transfers, consider it a problem with Windows handling MTP on your device or a similar issue).
This whole thread actually spreads disinformation. Better try to make sure, if you are unsure.
BTW, don't go with NTFS under Android in general and under .26 Infinity firmware in particular, it will give you trouble at some point on any device you connect to it. Just format your external cards to exFAT and don't even try to touch internal...
As to watching big .mkv files, try BSPlayer Free, it has played my 15 GB 1080p mkv files very smoothly. You can see more about apps for the Infinity in my apps (sticky) therad.
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Yep, I was about to say the same thing. Practically, there is no file size limit for Windows where MTP is supported natively by the OS (I suppose it would be similar for Linux as well). However, the 4-GB limit exists for Mac OS (no native support for MTP). There are some workarounds, but you cannot just use USB cable to transfer files larger than 4 GB.
need help
I formatted sandisk class 10 16 gb UHC-1 microsd to exFat(32 kilobytes) and I cant copy large files-it copies like 10% and then then gives me an error "device has stopped responding or been disconnected"-Im trying to copy 8 gb mkv file
Are you on .26 firmware? Read the threads about UHS cards here. The new firmware helped most of the users, before UHS cards were not working properly for the majority of them.
(I believe you mean UHS-1, which stands for Ultra High Speed)
UHS-1
yes Im on the .26 firmware and I have the UHS-1 16 GB-not working with exFat-tablet crashes and reboots-any suggestionsI
did a cold boot-seems to be working-Ill report back
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still wont copy 8 gb mkv file-it copied more this time like 30% and stopped responding
Jotokun said:
The microSD card is your only option. I second trying exFat.
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Any recommendation on Allocation Unit Size for exFAT? My computer defaulted to 32 kilobytes, but that seems kind of small. Card is 32 GB.
Formatted to exFAT
Copied over files
Opened BSPlayer
Watched fate/stay night unlimited blade works in glorious 1080p
Samsung 32gb sdhc on M$ winderps 7 64 bit
My prime supported NTFS, maybe that would help those who got problems with exFAT.
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yes Im on the .26 firmware and I have the UHS-1 16 GB-not working with exFat-tablet crashes and reboots-any suggestionsI
did a cold boot-seems to be working-Ill report back
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still wont copy 8 gb mkv file-it copied more this time like 30% and stopped responding
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Put the card in an adapter and plug into computer and copy directly. This will be Much faster anyway
NTFS support is *really* screwed up on teh infinity... Stick with exFat - it's as good as it gets for now.
Can't even copy a 1gb file with NTFS - causes the tablet to hang! Confirmed by other users also.
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I have a 32gig class 10 card that worked with exfat with the Pime but since I put it in the Infinity it just locks up and reboots when trying to copy any amount of large data. I tried reformatting the card again and no change. I then tried just fat32 and transferring a large photo folder is working now but now I can't put large movies on the card.
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I have a 32gig class 10 card that worked with exfat but since I put it in the Infinity it just locks up and reboots when trying to copy any amount of large data. I tried reformatting the card again and no change. I then tried just fat32 and transferring a large photo folder is working now but now I can't put large movies on the card.
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so its not just 64gb cards that this happens with. it happens to me with any size file. If i try to transfer something from the device to microsd, the tablet will freeze and reboot. But when it reboots, i'm able to transfer the file. I posted this issue on the facebook site for this device. I hope its taken care of soon. They are probably rectifying a few other issues to include in another update.
i dont want to switch to fat32 because i have my movies (4gbs and up) on it.
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Do you have an adapter for micro sd to normal sd? I used my adapter and plugged it right into my computer. The Micro sd is EXfat and when plugged diretly to my pc with the adapter I can transfer a large size file over 4 GB +. I am transferring a 9 GB file now.
But when my Micro sd is inside my galaxy note II it will not let me plug it to the pc via a usb wire and transfer any files over 4 GB.
Hope this helps
I purchased the 8GB Tab 2 7.0 because of the expandable storage but now I'm questioning whether the 16GB on the Nexus 7 would suit my needs better.
I know that apps cannot be moved to the SD card but I was wondering about rented Playstore movies? I downloaded a Play movie and it went right to the internal storage and I couldn't find a way to move it. I mainly use my tablet for DroidTV (which will not download to the SD card - they say Samsung doesn't allow it) and rented movies when I travel. And with just a few tv shows and my apps downloaded I'm down to 2GB of the internal storage left which isn't enough to download one Playstore movie.
I've thought about rooting but I've never done that before and I'm a big chicken so if anyone has any other way for me to utilize the 32GB storage card I bought I would really appreciate it!
I think you could use app called directory bind, have not tried it personally, but i think it allows to bind directories of external sd card as if they are in the internal sd
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Thanks. I can't find it on Google Play but when I searched for it online I found a thread here on XDA that says ROOT is required.
Any other solutions out there? I love my Tab 2 but I definitely need more storage .