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Hi, I hope you can help me out.
I'm trying to record some audio through the 2-in-1-combo-audio jack.
Everytime I connect an external music player to the transformer via audio jack, the transformer does not recognize that somethign is plugged in, but it thinks I want to use headphones (jack as output).
How can I swith to mic mode (jack as input)? Do I have to use a special asus app or is there a good app in the market that can do this?
Thx in Advance!
I doubt that you be able to do that
Why?
The specifications are very clear:
1 x 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone/Mic-in)
Or do I understand this wrong?
I would guess that it will only recognize the microphone when it is connected via a 2 ring connector like a headset/mic combo. A mic by itself would not have a connection that the hardware could recognize.
I am only theorizing based on my experience with with an iPhone.
Hope you like mono recordings...
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Maybe it can be achieved after 3.1 and with USB?
FletchGeek said:
I would guess that it will only recognize the microphone when it is connected via a 2 ring connector like a headset/mic combo.
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Yeah I think you are right, a member of another forum told me the same, that he plugged in an Apple Iphone Headset and the external mic on the headset worked. I also have such combo headsets with the same plug but they dont work. The internal mic still was still active. Could anyone please try to connect your headset and post if
1) the external mic will work
2) the internal mic gets deactivated.
3) and what headset is beeing used?
THX!
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I will only use it to record voice, so thats ok.
Maybe it can be achieved after 3.1 and with USB?
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Maybe then with additional Accessories, I hope to do this with the standard audio jack, which should be able to do that... at least according to the specs.
Quite possibly it would just need software to work. Since it is in the specs, a headphone/mic combination should work. I noticed tigerdirect was selling a combination headphone/mic as a bundle with the transformer.
You're going to want a 4 pin headset (mic/left/right/ground), which is how modern devices do dual input/output audio. Standard mics are 3 pins (L/R/Ground) just like normal headphones, therefore the hardware cant differentiate. Now the issue may come up on the arrangement of the headset pins. Prior to the iPhone, the standard 4 pin headset was configured in such a way that they would not work as normal headphones in devices that weren't meant to support headsets but Apple (or someone around that time) came along and switched up the order so that a 4 pin headset would be backwards compatible with a 3 pin jack -- a superior setup I say hesitantly, with the only con being that old headsets and new jacks are incompatible and new headphones with old (4 pin) jacks. If Asus is using the old standard, then an iPhone headset would not work and if Asus is using the new standard, then an old headset would not work.
Finally, it works!
I wanted to use an external audio source. You have to connect the cable first to the transformer, and AFTERWARDS connect the other side to the audio source. Only in this order the internal mic becomes deactivated.
If there is any signal on the cable while plugging it in into the Transformer, the internal mic is still active. I've attached my "cable construction".
The side with 4 pins goes into the transformer the 3 pins into a mono audio source (normal Headset Output). This works fine for me since I'm only recording voice (mono channel).
Problem solved!
Ive tried every setting and looked every where and cant figure out how to get audio when i get a phone call using the 3.5 jack connect through the usb. Any having same problem or a fix? I get music and everything else ive tried but calls always go to speaker phone and not my car audio.
socom36252 said:
Ive tried every setting and looked every where and cant figure out how to get audio when i get a phone call using the 3.5 jack connect through the usb. Any having same problem or a fix? I get music and everything else ive tried but calls always go to speaker phone and not my car audio.
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How do you get music to work with the car dock? I didn't have any luck.
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How do you get music to work with the car dock? I didn't have any luck.
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Go into settings then dock settings and click the second option that says output to external speakers.
I know I hate that! That's the whole point of having it play though the radio.
I hope someone can figure it out, because it doesn't make any sense the way it works now.
Might have to stick to using my bluetooth.
It works great for this!
yeah, it seems that the only way to do it is by using the top 3.5" jack on teh phone itself...seems like a silly oversight
Also did anyone else notice music sounds like crap compared to the jack on the phone? Less bass and just not as full sound.
This is my first post here im XDA. So I figured I would contribute like many here that make this forum a great place. I can confirm that the audio out does work using the jack on the car mount. When the car docking screen pops up, you will need to press the phone shaped icon and that will switch the audio to come out to the external speakers. There is no need to have the 3.5mm cable attached to the phone, just the mount.
Here is a pic of the car mode screen.
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Edit: I tried to post the screenshot but I am not allowed yet since I am fresh to the forums.
Edit: I just reread the OP post and tested out the in call audio and it does not come out through the speakers either. My apologies for jumping the gun.
Rich
socom36252 said:
Ive tried every setting and looked every where and cant figure out how to get audio when i get a phone call using the 3.5 jack connect through the usb. Any having same problem or a fix? I get music and everything else ive tried but calls always go to speaker phone and not my car audio.
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I had something odd happen the other day, I sometimes pair my phone with my car via bluetooth if I'm expecting to use it. I also use the 3.5mm jack to play music through the auxiliary in on the car (I have a USB port in there but a lot of my music is flac, which my car doesn't support). I noticed the other day though if I use both at the same time the music will stop and the call comes through the car, but there's no audio. It doesn't come through my car speakers via bluetooth, I guess it might through the aux cord, but I can't exactly test it at the same time haha. I think these phones just get confused as to what they're supposed to do with audio.
Has anyone lost sound out of the headphone jack.
works for me running prime 1.7
dufran3 said:
works for me running prime 1.7
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Same
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any ideas what to try?
Works fine for me (running stock).
Try pulling the headphone out slowly while listening for sound. Also have you tried different headphones/speakers?
3.2 stock, headphones working perfectly fine!
isn't muted, right?
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Has anyone lost sound out of the headphone jack.
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mingocr83 said:
isn't muted, right?
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Can you get sound out of the built in speakers? are you running stock 3.2? Do you have root?
Working fine for me on my stock unit.
Working fine for me too. I'd suspect you're either muted, or the headphone jack / headphones themselves are physically damaged.
+1 for headphones & speakers working fine one Stock 3.2. As with what everyone else is saying, try to troubleshoot and make sure all of your settings are correct: known working pair of headphones, volume turned up, headphones plugged in correctly, nothing inside the headphone jack (like dust bunny), sound works through regular speakers, etc.
Then if headphones still don't work through your headphone jack, probably something coincidentally went bad around the same time as your update to 3.2.
Good luck and let us know if all goes well or if you have to RMA it..
I can play music from the speakers but when I plug in headphones I hear sound for one second then nothing, this happens with all my headphone that work on other devices.
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I can play music from the speakers but when I plug in headphones I hear sound for one second then nothing, this happens with all my headphone that work on other devices.
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Sounds like your speaker jack might be bunk. But have you tried to wiggle it while the headphones are plugged into the jack? Maybe the headphone jack has a broken solder joint and if you wiggle it, you can make a connection. If this works, then you know the headphone jack inside is broken.
Then I'd called Asus and have them issue an RMA.
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I can play music from the speakers but when I plug in headphones I hear sound for one second then nothing, this happens with all my headphone that work on other devices.
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Do you get an indication in your notification area that headphones are plugged in? It should pop up in the lower right the moment you plug in your headphones saying 'Audio jack connected- audio jack is plugged in'.
Bestbuy replaced it for me, YEA no wait.
Im asking all you guys to help me find best methods, settings, and tweaks to get the best possible audio recordings on my SGS4G. Im asking this not only from the devs here but from all the audiophiles as well.
The reason im starting this thread is that my partners iphone 4 just with the built in mic and camera has produced video and audio recordings 10x better then what this phone has. With great dynamic quality and no distortion or anything. I need broadcast quality recordings for this project to succeed. If i am not able to do so im either going to have to try to clone the SIM card and get a used iphone 3GS just for field work, or give up this phone and switch to an iphone 4. Either of which i really dont want to do. If part of the solution is to dump GB and go back to Froyo, then so be it.
Heres what i got:
1. Highly modded SGS4G with Valhalla 1.3.2, Launcher Pro Plus
2. 32GB class 4 Sandisk card
3. UV using the settings in the ICBINB therad (i tried some lower ones dsexton posted, but they made the phone very unstable)
4. Voodoo Plus sound app
5. i-Microphone (sound was horrible, more on this later) http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B004XC6KHS/ref=nosim/betteraddons-20
6. Sennheiser E835 with XLR to 3.5 mono minijack adapter
7. Rec Forge and Hi-Q MP3 recorder (trying both, if you know of any with more features please share)
First off, im concerned that the custom ROM, kernal, and UV settings may be affecting quality. Any input on this would be appreciated. Ive tried OC, but 1.2ghz was never stable and 1.3ghz drained the battery too much.
I first off was looking for a good solution for face to face interviews, i found the i-mic (link above) to have good reviews, but when i bought it and tried it out, the recordings were horrible! Like someone was rubbing their fingers over the mic when talking. I tried gain adjustments in Voodoo and the recording apps im trying out, but nothing helped.
I plugged in my new Sennheiser using a XLR to RCA cable, with a RCA to mini jack adapter. The sound is A LOT better, but still there is a humming over the recordings, and they just do not have the dynamic quality that im hearing with the iphone recordings.
Are there any equalizer and sound processing apps for commercial or professional audio work out there?
Im at a wall here, any help to these issues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
It's hard to tell exactly without seeing your set-up but it sounds like you have the following issue.
The XLR is a balanced connector. When you go to an RCA you are dropping down to an unbalanced connector and losing your ground. That is where the hum would stem from.
To eliminate the hum you would need a cable that converts directly from your balanced XLR to a balanced T/R/S (Tip, Ring Sleeve) mini jack. This mini jack has 3 separate contact points, separated by two plastic bands on the plug instead of one.
Ideally for broadcast quality you would need to run your Sennheiser E835 into some sort of mixer with a mic preamp. Then run the line level out from the mixer to the SGS4G. Your recordings would be crystal clear at this point.
I don't believe your issue is with the SGS4G hardware. I use the camcorder with the built in mic all the time and the audio quality is fine.
Hope this helps.
you don't need a balanced connection unless you are talking about long mic cables like over 5 feet long and equipment that is plugged into AC current. Balanced connections are for getting rid of the 60 cycle AC hum, basically.
If I was trying to record using a 4g I would think about using the usb input and some kind of analog to digital converter box. Here is a cheap one -- $25 behringer UCA 202 providing 2 RCA inputs-- it's about the size of a phone. and supposed to work on linux without drivers so maybe it will work on android. I have three of them and use them for laptops. They're pretty good at eliminating noise. I just don't know if the phone has enough power to operate the unit. You need a female to female standard usb adapter to connect the data cable to the converter and something to adapt a (short) mic cable to an RCA port. if it works you can use a dynamic mic like a AKG or Shure or some smaller dynamic mic and will get better recordings than anything built into any phone. It will be a little bit bulky but you'll still be able to fit the whole thing in your pocket. I should try it with my phone and see if it works but I need to get the female to female adapter. if the phone recognizes the UCA202 it should work just fine with a Sennheiser E835. My girlfriend uses a Sennheiser MD-431 for recording songs with her laptop and one of those units.
They also have usb mic adapters at places like guitar center. If you have the female to female USB connector you can take your 4g to guitar center or wherever and try their mics out before you buy anything.
@Nazcalito....great advice, I guess spending all my time on a control room board I hear the word 'hum' and immediately think 'where's the dirty gear, who's missing a direct box.' Haven't used a cable under 10ft in as many years. I'd be very interested to know if someone could get the USB audio/phone rig cooking on or s4g, that would be sweet.
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Thanks for all the responses, ive been playing around with this and i do think the hardware is the biggest issue. I noticed the issue im having is that the built in mic is not turning off when using an external one. When using the external mic, i can tap over the back mic and get the feedback from it as well as the audio from the external mic.
Now the built in 3.5mm jack is a four contact TRRS plug, the RCA to minijack adapter is only two contacts. This would explain why the little plug in mic was getting all the feedback. Though even that mini i-mic was a TRRS plug like the headset thats included with the SGS4G. Why is the built in mic not turning off?
Nazcalito, your suggestion of the USB audio interface may work, i did consider a microphone with a USB connection, though i could not find any accounts of this working by simply plugging the mic in to the phone with a USB to microUSB adapter, and didnt want to take the chance. Though i like the converter box you showed a pic of, i could just velcro it to the back of the phone to make a mobile unit. I'll probably buy one if youre able to confirm it works. Again would i have the same issue with the internal mic not turning off when using this?
One thing i ordered was something called the headset buddy, its a TRRS male plug that splits into two separate minijacks for headphone and microphone. Im hoping this will solve the problem.
http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B002SK66OY/ref=nosim/betteraddons-20
Another concern is the pinout of the SGS4G. Ive found diagrams for the i9000 that shows the mic and ground contacts swapped, and others with the regular mic as the last pin that claim they are for the Galaxy S2 and SGS4G. Anyone can confirm? This might explain the internal mic staying on.
http://pinoutsguide.com/CellularPhones-P-W/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml
http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_i9100_headset_pinout.shtml
As well should i have all the options in Voodoo turned on for this?
Ya know, i wish i didnt order the headset buddy already, i would have tried this:
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-droid-x43.htm
Caligula36 said:
Ya know, i wish i didnt order the headset buddy already, i would have tried this:
http://www.kvconnection.com/product-p/km-droid-x43.htm
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That looks like a very handy piece of gear.
Bump
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The adapter did not help, the internal mic is still staying on.
That's not good. I have a similar problem occasionally with headphones not muting the speaker when used...I have to wiggle the plug a little until it mutes. The contacts are definitely a little touchy.
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Can anyone with a stock froyo SGS4G try plugging in an external mic and see if that solves it?
I'm using the Infuse dock and while I really am enjoying using it, the lone issue I have is that all phone calls are audible only via the internal phone speaker rather than the car speakers (via 3.5mm). I know that the Infuse dock was (obviously) not made for the S3 so I don't know if it's an issue only with this dock or if this is how Samsung intended it to be with all docks. Would it be possible for a dev to enable this function in a custom ROM or other method? Thanks very much.
I don't have a dock but quick question. When you navigate to Settings/Dock, is "Audio Output mode" selected?
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I don't have a dock but quick question. When you navigate to Settings/Dock, is "Audio Output mode" selected?
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It is. The audio (music/videos) sounds perfect through my car speakers using a 3.5mm cable but actual phone calls are only audible via the phone speaker. Thanks very much for the reply.
Bump to see if this is feasible. Thanks.
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Bump to see if this is feasible. Thanks.
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i run my phone via a no name mount (moslty just a holdeR)
& a male/male headphone cable plugged from the phone into my headunit & it plays everything (pandora, calls, Svoice etc) all via the car speakers.
not sure what your issue is.
when you plug in the headphone cable, does the notification area say "headphones connected?"
enohand said:
i run my phone via a no name mount (moslty just a holdeR)
& a male/male headphone cable plugged from the phone into my headunit & it plays everything (pandora, calls, Svoice etc) all via the car speakers.
not sure what your issue is.
when you plug in the headphone cable, does the notification area say "headphones connected?"
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Thanks for the reply. The headphones connected message does appear and while all my music is routed perfectly through my car speakers, it's only phone calls that play solely through the internal phone speaker. The difference between our setups is that my male/male headphone cable goes from the dock's integrated 3.5mm audio out jack to my head unit rather than from the phone's 3.5mm audio out. I'm hoping there's a way to get it to work without having to plug the cord directly into the phone as that would take away the advantage of having a dock with integrated audio. Thanks again.
I am having the same problem music goes through the usb port but calls do not. It is very frustrating. Hopfully they will fix it for CM 10.
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I am having the same problem music goes through the usb port but calls do not. It is very frustrating. Hopfully they will fix it for CM 10.
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That is something else entirely
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My understanding is that Ice Cream Sandwich doesn't have USB audio output standard, but that Samsung adds it into their phones. So, having call audio not route through the USB sounds like an issue to send to Samsung.
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