Hello all, I'm new to the Nexus. I get mine next week. I was wondering with Honeycomb 3.2 supporting smaller screen devices, do you think we will see Honeycomb on the Nexus? Some of the pull with Honeycomb is it'll get faster updates. But didn't know if there was an advantage?
I have and HTC Evo 4g and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi. I love Samsung products so I'm going all Samsung now. Although my computers at home are iMac and MBP, I just like Android better.
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djchad72 said:
Hello all, I'm new to the Nexus. I get mine next week. I was wondering with Honeycomb 3.2 supporting smaller screen devices, do you think we will see Honeycomb on the Nexus? Some of the pull with Honeycomb is it'll get faster updates. But didn't know if there was an advantage?
I have and HTC Evo 4g and a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 wifi. I love Samsung products so I'm going all Samsung now. Although my computers at home are iMac and MBP, I just like Android better.
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No I don't think so. Honeycomb is for tablets only.
Also the fact that the source code is not available makes it even more difficult to get on to a phone.
Ice Cream Sandwich is meant to be one OS that will run on both tablets and phones. Honeycomb in my opinion will be done very soon. Everything will be on Ice Cream Sandwich.
That is what I figured. I would not be surprised if larger tablets didn't skip 3.2 and star working on 4.0 ....unless 3.2 is just a slam dunk to regression and rollout.
I love my Tab10.1 and am sure ill love the Nexus. I use SPB Mobile Shell 3D on all devices. So makes for a great cross device experience, regardless of version of the OS.
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I just read the galaxy tab 2 is getting the nvidias tegra 2 chip and android 3.0.
Maybe by then the gtab might be able get get the android 3.0 update.
Only time will tell.
Update: I read it on engadgets website.
The gtab will no doubt be able to run honeycomb, but we're going to have to rely on our wonderful devs to get us it (no way viewsonic does it, they've probably lost enough money as it is). I would actually rather skip 2.3 and just wait for a nice vanilla 3.0 port.
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I just ordered the eee pad from newegg...got the UPS tracking number today. Anyway...I would assume it would be fairly easy to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out, hopefully by ASUS pushing it out, or by rooting and putting the ROM on yourself. Probably getting ahead of myself here, since 3.1 isn't even here yet, but I just don't want a tablet that has outdated software in 4 months.
Now, need to sell my OG iPad. Craigslist I guess, ebay fees have gotten outrageous.
murusmaximus said:
I just ordered the eee pad from newegg...got the UPS tracking number today. Anyway...I would assume it would be fairly easy to upgrade to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out, hopefully by ASUS pushing it out, or by rooting and putting the ROM on yourself. Probably getting ahead of myself here, since 3.1 isn't even here yet, but I just don't want a tablet that has outdated software in 4 months.
Now, need to sell my OG iPad. Craigslist I guess, ebay fees have gotten outrageous.
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I sold my ipad on eBay but that's only because my city isn't big enough so no one would buy it. Is "ice cream sandwich" referring to 3.1? If so, Asus already made an official announcement that the TF will get it in June
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Ice Cream Sandwich is the version after Honeycomb, so it will actually come after 3.1. It is supposed to get rid of the "fragmentation" issue with android and make it easier for developers. Shoot, I wonder if I get the HTC Evo 3D, if I will be able to get Ice Cream Sandwich on that down the road. It's supposed to work on both phones and tablets.
b1ackplague said:
I sold my ipad on eBay but that's only because my city isn't big enough so no one would buy it. Is "ice cream sandwich" referring to 3.1? If so, Asus already made an official announcement that the TF will get it in June
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3.1 got released what a week ago? Hold your horses kid.
Anyways Asus announced that they were working on 3.1 the day after 3.1 got released, they said expect it within a month.
So I really doubt icecream sandwhich will take 4 months.
I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but I was just more curious if ASUS was proactive on pushing updates out. Sounds like they are. I just don't want to have to purchase a new tablet in say 6-7 months if they decide not to upgrade this model.
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3.1 got released what a week ago? Hold your horses kid.
Anyways Asus announced that they were working on 3.1 the day after 3.1 got released, they said expect it within a month.
So I really doubt icecream sandwhich will take 4 months.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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No, Ice Cream Sandwich is the unification of tablet-Android and traditional phone-Android. It's meant to be used by both.
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If I'm not mistaken isn't icecream sandwich the phone verion of honeycomb?
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yea, this is my understanding as well. and it's version is 2.4 (after gingerbread, 2.3)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html
it is meant to bring some honeycomb goodness into the phone version. so for the TF to get ice cream sandwich would be a downgrade.
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yea, this is my understanding as well. and it's version is 2.4 (after gingerbread, 2.3)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/216558/android_24_ice_cream_details_drip.html
it is meant to bring some honeycomb goodness into the phone version. so for the TF to get ice cream sandwich would be a downgrade.
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2.4 if it exists willvstill be gingerbread. Ice cream sandwich will most likely be 4.0 and will run on phones, tablets and google tv.
Ice Cream Sandwich, unlike Honeycomb, will be open source. So we'll definitely see it on the TF one way or another.
okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
neok44 said:
okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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Thank you. I was beginning to lose faith in this thread. I don't think I have read so much misinformation in all of XDA. You beat me to the punch.
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okay so most of you guys don't know what your talking about let me explain.
Phones: Gingerbread 2.3
GoogleTV: Custom Froyo 2.2
Tablets: Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1.
3.1 is a honeycomb update that adds a few features and improvements.
Gingerbread 2.3 is the last version of the phone only android.
Ice Cream Sandwich, which will most likely be 4.0 but at least something greater than 3.1 combines Phones, GoogleTV, and Tablets all into one OS.
With Ice Cream Sandwich, all devices will be running the same version of android.
It will come out this holiday first and according to google most current gen devices will get it. There is no reason why the transformer won't get ICS this holiday.
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I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface. Why would you want a phone interface on your tablet? I think they are going to accomplish this by having different interfaces on different LCD densities as shown here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/20/set...y-above-160-get-a-taste-of-gingerbread-video/
I am in no way an Android/coding expert but this is the only way that makes sense.
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Tone503773 said:
I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface. Why would you want a phone interface on your tablet? I think they are going to accomplish this by having different interfaces on different LCD densities as shown here:
http://phandroid.com/2011/05/20/set...y-above-160-get-a-taste-of-gingerbread-video/
I am in no way an Android/coding expert but this is the only way that makes sense.
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With ICS the honeycomb UI is being redesigned for the phones.
On tablets ICS will probably look identical to honeycomb just like eclair through gingerbread didn't change much other than images.
But on phones, it'll be a complete redesign of the android UI taking the honeycomb holographic UI and bringing it over to phones.
Tone503773 said:
I did some research and I guess I didn't know what I was talking about, but my thing was if it was going to be on a phone wouldn't it have a phone interface.
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Two things to consider here:
1. The Launcher - this can be different across different devices if Google wish, because this is essentially just an application.
2. Fragment support - probably the biggest single addition to Honeycomb is the addition of fragments. Effectively this introduces a single consistent API for multi-paned applications (think Honeycombs Gmail etc). Essentially, an application can decide what fragments a particular device can display and adjust its UI accordingly, so there's no need for a tablet and phone version of a particular application.
Ice Cream Sandwich is effectively the unification of Honeycomb and Gingerbread effectively, and will allow the same OS to serve up a different UI and experience between different classes of device.
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Dave
This will presumably put android on a similar basis as Apple's IOS which is used on iphones and ipads
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This will presumably put android on a similar basis as Apple's IOS which is used on iphones and ipads
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Not exactly! If anything, it puts it ahead of iOS because it should allow for tablet apps to run on a phone, and vice versa.
Regards,
Dave
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Ice Cream Sandwich is effectively the unification of Honeycomb and Gingerbread effectively, and will allow the same OS to serve up a different UI and experience between different classes of device.
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True, and you can see now on honeycomb that if you change the LCD density (to show a more dense screen such as a phone) the Gingerbread Interface because default on a reboot.
the biggest thing i've seen and this is what makes it better then the ios is the fact that games that are ment for a phone will properly scale for tablets where as games that are on the iphone that aren't ment for the ipad look grainy at the very least so this will give a lot more freedom when coming to cross platforming
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So I have been reading the last 6 months about the supposed biggest update for Android ever = Ice Cream Sandwich. I have a few questions.
- What OS # will it be ? 4.0 ?
- What's approx release date ? This fall on the next Nexus device ?
- When will other current phones get Ice Cream ?
- Is it really going to be the mind blowing incredible update they it is ? Completely change Android radically with massive improvements and new ways of doing things ?
There was lots of hype last year before Gingerbread, saying it would be a big update, and change the look of the UI and be totally fresh. But to me its barely any different than Froyo.
Anything else ?
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wow, surprised that 71 people have viewed this thread, but none of them have a responded ?
I thought this site was for [H]ard Geeks only ? I am sure one of you knows something more in detail about the next big Android update ?
Ice Cream Sandwich will be Android 4.0.
It will bring a Honeycomb-style UI to ALL android devices - no more phone vs tablet OSes. This also means no more hardware buttons - they're going to be onscreen like Honeycomb.
The first 4.0 Device is expected to be the Nexus Prime, a most-likely Samsung phone with a 4.3ish" screen to be released in the fall of this year.
Some (possibly many) Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices will be upgraded to ICS.
That answer your question?
Most people are as clueless as you are. Not much info is known except it's supposed to be basically GB and HC merged for use on phones and the new Nexus one will be the first to start it off supposedly sometime towards the end of the year.
mtmerrick said:
Ice Cream Sandwich will be Android 4.0.
It will bring a Honeycomb-style UI to ALL android devices - no more phone vs tablet OSes. This also means no more hardware buttons - they're going to be onscreen like Honeycomb.
The first 4.0 Device is expected to be the Nexus Prime, a most-likely Samsung phone with a 4.3ish" screen to be released in the fall of this year.
Some (possibly many) Honeycomb and Gingerbread devices will be upgraded to ICS.
That answer your question?
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i hope that there won't be onscreen buttons, i hope there will be gestures..
swiping with two fingers down for home or something. so we dont loose any screen size for the buttons, on screen or not, they waste space on the screen
or maybe something like Zmooth in the market, where you got a small area to make gestures to simulate the buttons
i rly rly hope that they will implement something like this, and not just onscreen buttons..
So the Nexus-Prime will be the debut device for Android 4.0 Ice Cream.
If it is made by Samsung, curious how much better spec'd the Prime will be over the upcoming Galaxy S2 + ?
And I heard a rumor that Google wants to release this new Nexus earlier than the normal Christmas time, but try and compete with iPhone5 with an October launch ? Do you realistically see that happening ?
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Zorachus said:
So the Nexus-Prime will be the debut device for Android 4.0 Ice Cream.
If it is made by Samsung, curious how much better spec'd the Prime will be over the upcoming Galaxy S2 + ?
And I heard a rumor that Google wants to release this new Nexus earlier than the normal Christmas time, but try and compete with iPhone5 with an October launch ? Do you realistically see that happening ?
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This is a likely idea if I were Google.
really lookin forward to this. it looks the business.
I waiting for it
I hope at least most popular devices like SGS will get update, maybe xda-forum will not disappoint
Zorachus said:
So the Nexus-Prime will be the debut device for Android 4.0 Ice Cream.
If it is made by Samsung, curious how much better spec'd the Prime will be over the upcoming Galaxy S2 + ?
And I heard a rumor that Google wants to release this new Nexus earlier than the normal Christmas time, but try and compete with iPhone5 with an October launch ? Do you realistically see that happening ?
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i definitely hope it will be released around the iphone5 time..
and hey, the nexus one was the better twin of the htc desire, the nexus S is the better twin of the galaxy S. why shouldnt the nexus prime be the better twin of the galaxy SII+?^^
I'm reading some stuff about ICS and i think that this release it will have the following specs optimized:
-Jit
-A new UI that fits on smartphones and tabblets,
-An optimized kernel
-A new way of interatcion with market and the other produtcts of google.
Will it support duel-core smartphones..? And if so, anyone knows how it will do it?
hope we'll get it soon
i wait it so long
One answer to all the questions you asked, no one knows
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Google has not given any information about ICS. Guess they will hold an event to give all ins and outs just like they did with Honeycomb. Rumours are by the way that there are multiple ICS devices coming out at the same time in fall/winter. (LG, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony)
I hope that the on-screen buttons are not a design requirement for devices running ICS. It would be frustrating to not be able to get CM8 on my Tbolt.
I hadn't heard about the hardware buttons being gone, that's a shame...would it be the soft touch screened like I have on my DInc (which I wouldn't classify as hardware like say, on the Droid X) or just button screens drawn in the actual viewed screen?
So the Dual-core processor isn't a minimum hardware requirement .. thank god !
I am looking for a new phone I have sprnit and i dont plan on leaving Sprint. I currently have the Evo 4g and i love it I have played around with the evo 3D and i like the power it has but i dont really care for the 3D portion. I am also looknig at the Photon because i like the Tegra processor in it. I see that the Galaxy S2 is coming out but I am not so much of a fan of the Samsung UI. How is battery life?
If I had to get a Sprint phone it would be the Photon. They do have a dual screen Android powered phone (I forgot the name) that I believe is a little bit older, but that one is pretty cool to play with.
The Galaxy SII would be the one to wait for. Even tho Samsung's TouchWiz UI isn't that great, you can always flash a ROM over it that uses a different interface. That's what I did, I have the Samsung Droid Charge that's running a vanilla android interface.
get the photon, great specs, great battery life, development is only just beginning, and has a long way to go I'm sure, a very likely device to get Ice cream sandwich, some nice features. Highly recommend
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If I had to get a Sprint phone it would be the Photon. They do have a dual screen Android powered phone (I forgot the name) that I believe is a little bit older, but that one is pretty cool to play with.
The Galaxy SII would be the one to wait for. Even tho Samsung's TouchWiz UI isn't that great, you can always flash a ROM over it that uses a different interface. That's what I did, I have the Samsung Droid Charge that's running a vanilla android interface.
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Touchwiz4 is pretty amazing tho
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I Have Samsung Galaxy SII and it is definitely a phone to wait for.
And the ROMs posted on this site make it even better...
Well thanks for all the input I think I might wait for the Galaxy 2 and try it out at a sprint store. I just hope that it really will be released on 9/9 like the rumors say.
I'm a huge aosp fan as I'm sure many of you are. I was wondering if CM9 is the in the pipeline for the Galaxy tab plus. I see both the 10.1 and 8.9 have unofficial roms, I realize the 7+ is built on a different platform but would any devs be willing to take on the task. How do we go about getting ourselves a maintainer?.
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Based on the following, I think there's a chance that we're going to get an official release from CM.
We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade
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http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
Let's keep our hopes up!
Well that's excellent. Thanks for sharing.
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