I have a T-Mobile Garminfone A50 in Canada.
Here's the question: the Nuvifone A50 has different specs than then USA released Garminfone a50. Namely the HSPA frequencies.
the Nuvifone A50: "Networks: HSDPA Cat 8 7.2Mbps, HSPA / WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100, GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900, GPRS EDGE Class 12"
From T-Mobile USA: Networks: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900, GPRS EDGE Class 12, UMTS HSPA 2100/1700, HSDPA Cat 8, 7.2 Mbps.
Looks to me as though the European Nuvifone A50 supports HSPA 850/900/1900 where the T-mobile USA one does not.
So, will rooting permit the T-Mobile phone to use the full spectrum of frequencies as the A50 does in Europe? I need the 850/1900 MHz range to get coverage where i live and i really like this phone and would rather not throw it in the garbage.
seems to me that it should be possible. i would think that they are the same phone just tmobile has locked those frequencies somehow? I'm new to the forum and hacking and would really appreciate any help/tips/tricks. basically the same question was posted by Spazmogen a year ago but i couldn't find any replies. Please help if you can! thanks
Had anybody got any further on this issue?
So far all my searches have come up with nothing certain. There is a lot of speculation about how the phones are built but that is about it. It will really suck if this phone wont handle 850 Mhz! (Au phone here btw)
Any gurus out there with more of an idea?
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I am travelling to Europe soon and can't really find out if the Sensation will fully work there. I am getting it SIM unlocked through TMOUS, but I am unsure about the actual bands it supports. I know it will work for standard GSM calling since where I am going 900 MHz is standard, but what about data? Will I at least be able to get 3G? Searched hi and low and couldn't find an answer to this anywhere. Thanks.
Paul
same boat
I'm in the same boat here. I leave for Ireland in the beginning of September, and hope to bring my T-Mobile Sensation (factory unlocked also). If anyone has any insight to this it would be greatly appreciated. 3G is a must now a days.
Go to gsmarena and look for the bands of the HTC Sensation and compare it with the Tmobile Sen 4g
just got back from spain/ibiza after a two week vacation:
i had a sim that ONLY did phone/sms and a friend had a sim that did data...but he kept complaining about the speed, so i'm assuming the speeds are edge-like. again, this was in ibiza and our choice of sims was limited...
HTH
gsmarena for htc sensations
that was a good idea hytl, looks like the tmobile version has two more frequencies on the HSDPA but everything else is the same. So our phones should work fine with 3G.
US Version
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 1900 - For Bell (Canada)
European Version
General 2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 900 / 2100
Anyone know why the T-Mobile version doesn't pick up AT&T's 3G?(here in America) from what I've read online AT&T use's 850 and 1900, and gsmarena says it the T-Mobile Sensation can pick up those frequencies, but I dont get any 3G. actually I dont even get edge, I can just make phone calls and text, no data whats so ever on AT&T's network. dont know if i should start a new thread, but its confusing the hell out of me. Could it be a software lock? its not rooted or anything.
Well I have a Desire S at the moment , it runs on Orange Israel.
I am looking to buy a SGS II T989 from the marketplace here but it says that it runs on :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
While Orange Israel runs on :
GSM 900/1800 frequency and UMTS technology.
When I installed new rom on my Desire S it asked me what carrier I use , I picked Orange(3g) so I assume that I need a 3g phone that runs on gsm 900/1800 right? Or the SGS II T989 will work on Orange Israel?
Thanks for answers.
As you listed the frecuencies...
With at least one frequency compatible it will work.
It's only a few contries that use 850/1900 and your new Samsung will work on these countries either.
Arcaneex said:
Well I have a Desire S at the moment , it runs on Orange Israel.
I am looking to buy a SGS II T989 from the marketplace here but it says that it runs on :
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
While Orange Israel runs on :
GSM 900/1800 frequency and UMTS technology.
When I installed new rom on my Desire S it asked me what carrier I use , I picked Orange(3g) so I assume that I need a 3g phone that runs on gsm 900/1800 right? Or the SGS II T989 will work on Orange Israel?
Thanks for answers.
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All carrier's in Israel use 2100mhz for HSDPA /HSPA+ ("3.5G") though some also use 850mhz as well like pelephone and celcom.
Hello guys!
I just brought my Galaxy s2 hd lte which is known as SHV-E120s similar to att galxy s2 skyrocket in ATT.
It is unlock .
when i put my simcard, i always get G which is GPRS. This is so slow and it makes me crazy.
Thus, i look over google and find what my support 3g band which was.
2G Network: GSM 850/ 900 /1800/ 1900
3G Network: HSDPA 850/ 900/ 1900 /2100
HSDPA 900/ 2100
4G Network: LTE 800/ 1800 /2600
Also I look over T-mobile 3G frequency over google and found that
850MHz: GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA : 2G/3G
1900 MHz: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 2G
1700/2100 MHz: UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+: 3G/4G
1900 MHz: UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+: 3g/4G
1700 / 2100 Mhz: LTE
Acoording to this chart. i know that i cannot use LTE.
However, i believe, it will support 3G which i have HSDPA 1900 and 2100 Mhz.
Based on m assumption, because of t mobile use weird signal AWS? thats why my phone does not work 3g?
i really want to solution for it. THE GSRM IS SO SLOW THAT I CANNOT EVEN POSE THINGS ON MY FACEBOOK.....
thank you.
skw2030 said:
Hello guys!
I just brought my Galaxy s2 hd lte which is known as SHV-E120s similar to att galxy s2 skyrocket in ATT.
It is unlock .
when i put my simcard, i always get G which is GPRS. This is so slow and it makes me crazy.
Thus, i look over google and find what my support 3g band which was.
2G Network: GSM 850/ 900 /1800/ 1900
3G Network: HSDPA 850/ 900/ 1900 /2100
HSDPA 900/ 2100
4G Network: LTE 800/ 1800 /2600
Also I look over T-mobile 3G frequency over google and found that
850MHz: GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA : 2G/3G
1900 MHz: GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 2G
1700/2100 MHz: UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+: 3G/4G
1900 MHz: UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+: 3g/4G
1700 / 2100 Mhz: LTE
Acoording to this chart. i know that i cannot use LTE.
However, i believe, it will support 3G which i have HSDPA 1900 and 2100 Mhz.
Based on m assumption, because of t mobile use weird signal AWS? thats why my phone does not work 3g?
i really want to solution for it. THE GSRM IS SO SLOW THAT I CANNOT EVEN POSE THINGS ON MY FACEBOOK.....
thank you.
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UP !!!
Have exactly the same problem .... any solution to this ????
No it is not similar you're in the wrong subsection. Rocket HD is different. Also make sure your phone is unlocked and u need a different radio compatible with the T-Mobile frequencies
I'm thinking of buying a Note 10.1 and am in two minds whether to go for the 3G or just wifi version as I may be moving to the US in the next 4-5 months. Will the international 3G version work on T-Mobile or other US carrier in full HSPA+ speed?
OK, I found that Tmobile is moving it's HSPA network to a new frequency to be more compatible with the other networks.
4G/LTE upgrade
On February 23, 2012, during the Q4 Earnings Call, the future of the T-Mobile 4G upgrade path was laid out. T-Mobile's LTE network will be rolled out on the AWS spectrum, and their HSPA+ network will transition to the PCS band, in order to achieve compatibility with other networks and phones in the USA, T-Mobile plans to begin this transition in early 2013.[41]
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and
Radio frequency spectrum chart
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G - According to reports from users, T-Mobile started to reapportion its PCS frequency (UMTS frequency band II) for UMTS service in some areas. Will be expanded during LTE upgrade.[44]
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Source Wikipedia
And from Samsung the Note 10.1 has the following radio spectrums
Platform
850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900MHz GSM&EDGE Band
850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100MHz 3G Band
GPRS Network&Data: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
EDGE Network&Data: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network&Data
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So I assume that once Tmobile has finished their transition then the Note 10.1 will be able to get HSPA+ speeds over 3G or am I missing something?
I have an opportunity for a really good priced P6800. The seller does not know which carrier it is...? Here is what I was told:
These are the networks that the tab will work with.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Please let me know.
Much appreciated!
rosystreasures said:
I have an opportunity for a really good priced P6800. The seller does not know which carrier it is...? Here is what I was told:
These are the networks that the tab will work with.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
Please let me know.
Much appreciated!
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Any GSM/HSPA network, which means about 99.99% of all networks in the world. Since you live in the USA, it means AT&T and T-Mobile (on most areas, in some places T-Mobile still didn't move their 3G band to the international standard frequency of 2.1GHz).